Re: Jobs in London

2011-03-03 Thread marcos rebelo
I need an extra information.

Every head-hunter from London proposed me long term contracts, in the
rest of Europe they propose a most 1 year contracts.

What is different in London, that takes the head-hunter to propose
long term contracts?

Best Regards
Marcos Rebelo

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 20:58, Dave Hodgkinson daveh...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 28 Feb 2011, at 17:33, Dan Rowles wrote:

 Depends how far you want to go (between which zones).

 Map of zones is here:-

 http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/1106.aspx

 Current tickets prices are here:-

 http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14416.aspx

 There are discounts for using Oyster cards, and for weekly / monthly / 
 annual tickets.

 No. As has been pointed out, there's a penalty for NOT using an Oystercard.






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Re: Jobs in London

2011-03-03 Thread Denny
On Thu, 2011-03-03 at 21:10 +0100, marcos rebelo wrote:
 I need an extra information.
 
 Every head-hunter from London proposed me long term contracts, in the
 rest of Europe they propose a most 1 year contracts.
 
 What is different in London, that takes the head-hunter to propose
 long term contracts?

(a) They're not head-hunters, they're recruitment agents.  Head-hunters
are very very subtle, recruitment agents are not.  Head-hunters will not
approach you by phone or email, they'll meet you in person and get to
know you.  Recruitment agents wish that they were head-hunters in much
the same way that 8 year old boys wish that they were James Bond or
Spiderman.

(b) Most contracts I've seen offered in London and the UK are 3 months
initially, with potential for extension (although they can last for
years if you and the company are both happy).  If you're being offered
something longer-term than that initially, it's usually a permanent
role, which has (usually) more benefits such as holiday and sick pay,
and a lower daily rate for that reason.

Regards,
Denny



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Re: Jobs in London

2011-03-03 Thread Peter Corlett
On 3 Mar 2011, at 20:10, marcos rebelo wrote:
 Every head-hunter from London proposed me long term contracts, in the rest of 
 Europe they propose a most 1 year contracts. What is different in London, 
 that takes the head-hunter to propose long term contracts?

They are offering permanent (or permie) roles, as opposed to contract.

A permanent role lasts until notice is given by either side (i.e. you quit or 
are fired). The notice period is normally a month. After a year, the employer 
can't just fire you for no reason, but you can still quit at any time without 
giving a reason. The employer deals with your tax and other annoying legal 
stuff.

Some employers offer roles that they call contracts but are really just 
time-limited permanent roles that need renewing. This seems to be mainly a way 
to avoid the employee protection kicking in after a year. Again, they deal with 
the tax and whatnot.

When Perlmongers talk about contract roles or contractors, they're often 
discussing short-term work of anything from a day upwards, but a few months is 
fairly typical. This involves setting up and running a small business, so 
there's a lot more risk and paperwork, but it can prove quite lucrative if 
you're good.





Re: Jobs in London

2011-03-03 Thread Jason Clifford
On Thu, 2011-03-03 at 20:54 +, Peter Corlett wrote:
 Some employers offer roles that they call contracts but are really just 
 time-limited permanent roles that need renewing. This seems to be mainly a 
 way to avoid the employee protection kicking in after a year.

In that case they are very stupid as those protections come into force
as soon as you have been with an employee for a year on whatever basis
even if the contract is not specifically a permanent one. The only
difference with a fixed term contract is that it can end without further
notice upon expiration of the fixed term except that if it has been
renewed and there would be a reasonable expectation that it will be
further renewed notice would be required to end it.



Re: Jobs in London

2011-03-03 Thread Raphael Mankin
On Thu, 2011-03-03 at 21:10 +0100, marcos rebelo wrote:
 I need an extra information.
 
 Every head-hunter from London proposed me long term contracts, in the
 rest of Europe they propose a most 1 year contracts.
 
 What is different in London, that takes the head-hunter to propose
 long term contracts?

Ask them what they mean by 'long term'. Frequently it turns out to be
just 6 months.



Re: Jobs in London

2011-03-03 Thread Egor Shipovalov
They may mean so-called rolling contracts  - those that get
auto-renewed by default. Companies may prefer them to permanent
positions because of flexibility in head count they provide. To the
developer they usually mean significantly higher income, and also more
flexibility as it is normal to change contract jobs more often than
permanent positions.

--
Best regards,
Egor Shipovalov.

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 8:10 PM, marcos rebelo ole...@gmail.com wrote:
 I need an extra information.

 Every head-hunter from London proposed me long term contracts, in the
 rest of Europe they propose a most 1 year contracts.

 What is different in London, that takes the head-hunter to propose
 long term contracts?

 Best Regards
 Marcos Rebelo

 On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 20:58, Dave Hodgkinson daveh...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 28 Feb 2011, at 17:33, Dan Rowles wrote:

 Depends how far you want to go (between which zones).

 Map of zones is here:-

 http://www.tfl.gov.uk/gettingaround/1106.aspx

 Current tickets prices are here:-

 http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14416.aspx

 There are discounts for using Oyster cards, and for weekly / monthly / 
 annual tickets.

 No. As has been pointed out, there's a penalty for NOT using an Oystercard.






 --
 Marcos Rebelo
 http://www.oleber.com/
 Milan Perl Mongers leader https://sites.google.com/site/milanperlmongers/
 Webmaster of http://perl5notebook.oleber.com