Proprietary Sybase DBI/DBD module

2012-10-29 Thread Chris Jack

I'm just back from speaking at the Las Vegas SAP/Sybase conference (on a 
somewhat Perl related topic too!). One of the (other) interesting talks was 
about a new proprietary Sybase ASE DBI/DBD module for Perl (to be called 
DBD::SybaseASE from memory). They were a little short on specifics, but it 
sounds like it will answer a number of concerns with the current 
non-proprietary DBD::Sybase - for instance with performance of bulk loading. I 
asked what was being done about getting it into standard perl distributions, 
and the presenter didn't know. Hence my question: can anyone send me/post 
information or a link about how to get a new module into standard Perl 
distributions (and maybe also a list of the major perl distributions). 
RegardsChris

Re: Proprietary Sybase DBI/DBD module

2012-10-29 Thread Dave Cross

Quoting Chris Jack chris_j...@msn.com:

I'm just back from speaking at the Las Vegas SAP/Sybase conference  
(on a somewhat Perl related topic too!). One of the (other)  
interesting talks was about a new proprietary Sybase ASE DBI/DBD  
module for Perl (to be called DBD::SybaseASE from memory). They were  
a little short on specifics, but it sounds like it will answer a  
number of concerns with the current non-proprietary DBD::Sybase -  
for instance with performance of bulk loading. I asked what was  
being done about getting it into standard perl distributions, and  
the presenter didn't know. Hence my question: can anyone send  
me/post information or a link about how to get a new module into  
standard Perl distributions (and maybe also a list of the major perl  
distributions).


Well, there's only one standard Perl distribution[1]. And that doesn't  
include any DBD modules. It doesn't even include DBI.


There are a number of distributions that include modules beyond the  
standard set. Offhand I can think of ActivePerl[2], Strawberry Perl[3]  
and DWIM Perl[4]. Some of these include DBI and DBD modules but (as  
far as I know) they only include DBD::mysql - as it's still by far the  
most popular database. None of them include DBD::Sybase, so the chance  
of getting them to include an alternative Sybase DBD would seem to be  
tiny.


There are, however, a couple of alternatives that you can consider.  
Firstly, for a module to be considered real to most Perl  
programmers, it needs to be on CPAN. The PAUSE FAQ[5] is still (as far  
as I know) the best guide for getting a module onto CPAN.


Secondly, you could consider making pre-packaged versions of the  
module available for various platforms. For example, an RPM for Red  
Hat systems or a .deb for Debian/Ubuntu. You could try to get it into  
the standard package repositories for these systems but the niche  
nature of Sybase use is likely to count against you here.


Does that help at all? Let us know if you have any further questions.

Cheers,

Dave...

[1] https://metacpan.org/release/perl
[2] http://www.activestate.com/activeperl
[3] http://strawberryperl.com/
[4] http://dwimperl.com/
[5] http://www.cpan.org/modules/04pause.html


Re: Proprietary Sybase DBI/DBD module

2012-10-29 Thread Jason Clifford
On Mon, 2012-10-29 at 14:07 +, Chris Jack wrote:
 I'm just back from speaking at the Las Vegas SAP/Sybase conference (on a 
 somewhat Perl related topic too!). One of the (other) interesting talks was 
 about a new proprietary Sybase ASE DBI/DBD module for Perl (to be called 
 DBD::SybaseASE from memory). They were a little short on specifics, but it 
 sounds like it will answer a number of concerns with the current 
 non-proprietary DBD::Sybase - for instance with performance of bulk loading. 
 I asked what was being done about getting it into standard perl 
 distributions, and the presenter didn't know. Hence my question: can anyone 
 send me/post information or a link about how to get a new module into 
 standard Perl distributions (and maybe also a list of the major perl 
 distributions). RegardsChris  

Do you know what the license terms for redistribution of this module
are?

Ideally you simply upload the module to CPAN and, optionally, advise the
producers of Strawberry Perl and ActiveState that it is available so
they can package it up for their users.

So long as it being proprietary does not prevent this model of
distribution that's all you need to do.

Jason Clifford



Re: Hotels for the LPW

2012-10-29 Thread Job van Achterberg

Hi fellas,

My wife and I hope to attend this year (last year was grand). Here's a 
humble request for couch surfing! I've mailed Peter Corlett but have 
gotten no response (perhaps some spam filter ate my mail) so I'll just 
bug all of you with this.


In return I can offer homebrewed beer and/or cider, or Dutch 
(non-psychedelic) cookies.


With warmest regards,

Job  Mallory van Achterberg

On 10/26/12 15:30, DAVID HODGKINSON wrote:

On 25 Oct 2012, at 09:00, Mark Keating m.keat...@shadowcat.co.uk wrote:


Hi all,

I have been asked by a couple of people for hotel recommendations in and around 
the LPW for this year. Traditionally we have always left people to their own 
devices and the sites like TripAdvisor and Booking.com, but since I have been 
asked and i know there is a vast wealth of knowledge and experience on this 
list i thought I might throw the question to the masses.

I await, with anticipation, your gracious responses.

As a data point, $daughter said the Travelodge near Tower Bridge was skanky.







Re: Hotels for the LPW

2012-10-29 Thread Joel Bernstein
On 29 October 2012 20:32, Job van Achterberg j...@xs4all.nl wrote:
 In return I can offer homebrewed beer and/or cider, or Dutch
 (non-psychedelic) cookies.

Maybe you'd get a better response if you offered the other kind?

/joel


Re: Hotels for the LPW

2012-10-29 Thread DAVID HODGKINSON
Drove past the Travelodge in Stratford today. Looked new and shiny.


On 29 Oct 2012, at 19:32, Job van Achterberg j...@xs4all.nl wrote:

 Hi fellas,
 
 My wife and I hope to attend this year (last year was grand). Here's a humble 
 request for couch surfing! I've mailed Peter Corlett but have gotten no 
 response (perhaps some spam filter ate my mail) so I'll just bug all of you 
 with this.
 
 In return I can offer homebrewed beer and/or cider, or Dutch 
 (non-psychedelic) cookies.
 
 With warmest regards,
 
 Job  Mallory van Achterberg
 
 On 10/26/12 15:30, DAVID HODGKINSON wrote:
 On 25 Oct 2012, at 09:00, Mark Keating m.keat...@shadowcat.co.uk wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I have been asked by a couple of people for hotel recommendations in and 
 around the LPW for this year. Traditionally we have always left people to 
 their own devices and the sites like TripAdvisor and Booking.com, but since 
 I have been asked and i know there is a vast wealth of knowledge and 
 experience on this list i thought I might throw the question to the masses.
 
 I await, with anticipation, your gracious responses.
 As a data point, $daughter said the Travelodge near Tower Bridge was 
 skanky.