Re: hackday report

2014-09-21 Thread Bob Walker

On Sun, 21 Sep 2014, Bob Walker wrote:



Found a bug in URI::Find::Delimited casued by a new release of URI::Find
- https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=99003

Imported the 2 releases of URI::Find::Delimited on CPAN into a git repo and 
put in on github so I can then patch it to address the above bug.

- https://github.com/OpenGuides/URI-Find-Delimited



This has now been released to CPAN.
https://metacpan.org/release/BOB/URI-Find-Delimited-0.03
https://github.com/OpenGuides/URI-Find-Delimited/pull/1


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hackday report

2014-09-21 Thread Bob Walker

At the hackday yesterday I did the following.

Merged a pull request from the debian perl maintainers agasint OpenGuides 
to fix a change in SQLite behaviour 
- https://github.com/OpenGuides/OpenGuides/pull/78


Helped Kake create a new github repo for the stuff she was doing.

Released a new version of OpenGuides
- https://github.com/OpenGuides/OpenGuides/pull/79
- https://metacpan.org/release/BOB/OpenGuides-0.77

While doing the release found a bug in the installation of Lucy. Which I 
need to submit a bug report for upstream. 
- https://metacpan.org/pod/distribution/Lucy/lib/Lucy.pod


Gave some advice on how to resurrect an old MySQL database.

Submitted a pull request to add OpenGraph support to OpenGuides
- https://github.com/OpenGuides/OpenGuides/pull/81

Found a bug in URI::Find::Delimited casued by a new release of URI::Find
- https://rt.cpan.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=99003

Imported the 2 releases of URI::Find::Delimited on CPAN into a git repo 
and put in on github so I can then patch it to address the above bug.

- https://github.com/OpenGuides/URI-Find-Delimited

then drank a lot of beer.




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Re: London PM Hack Day Tomorrow - Perl 5 suggestions

2014-09-20 Thread Bob Walker

On Fri, 19 Sep 2014, Sue Spence wrote:


Here is the official Perl5 todo list:
http://perl5.git.perl.org/perl.git/blob/HEAD:/Porting/todo.pod

You could also:

- compile Perl5 blead and install modules
- look on CPAN for modules that have test failures on blead, then work on
fixes
- learn to use perlbrew, cpanm, and other parts of the modern Perl toolchain
- play with the code for dipsy, the #london.pm resident bot
- work on a meetup style system for scheduling club meetings

Feel free to follow up with other hacking topics.


OpenGuides has a number of issues people could work on.
https://github.com/OpenGuides/OpenGuides/issues

I'm certainly intending to get a release out today due to
https://github.com/OpenGuides/OpenGuides/pull/78




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Re: Westfield (W12) Lunch - SPAM

2014-07-17 Thread Bob Walker

On Thu, 17 Jul 2014, Sue Spence wrote:


I opened this message expecting to see spam, and there wasn't any. UNFAIR.



have a spam vehicle instead.
https://twitter.com/dannykellywords/status/489727692280172544




On 17 July 2014 11:49, Schmoo  wrote:


Hi all,

I have picked "Thursday, July 24, 2014 12:00 PM (Time zone: London)"
for the "London Perl Mongers & Friends Lunch." poll

Follow this link to open the poll:
http://doodle.com/yfwyingzkce7rbe6


Hope to see people there :)

Kind regards,
Gaz

On 8 July 2014 21:18, Schmoo  wrote:

Hi all,

Summary:
Food,
Westfield W12,
1200-1300
16th, 17th, 23rd, 24th, 30th, and/or 31st of July

I've recently discovered that NAP have moved into Network House in W12.
W12 happens to also be the workplace location of myself and a select
few colleagues who may be known to a number of people on this list.

To celebrate the continued existence of this universe, which hath
wrought Perl, I thought it might be nice to have a little shared
lunch. Westfield has a varied food-court, which should have enough
space for our needs with no prior booking. Not sure if SPAM is
available cooked, however.

To that end, this thing lists 6 days in the near future, for the
purpose of coordination:
http://doodle.com/yfwyingzkce7rbe6

I recommend assuming that the most "filled in" day is the consensus,
and I intend to show up on that particular day for about 2 hours.

If there is no apparent consensus, I, and others, generally loiter
around Westfield between 1200 and 1300 on most weekdays anyway. This
is also why I've configured this scheduling service to offer 1200 as a
time to meet.

So, yeah... Come one, come all, come none if that's how you feel :)

I hope to see you, personally, whoever you are, on one of the days.
And apologies for the spam, everyone else.

Kind regards,

schmooster






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Re: London.pm approved drinking venues?

2014-03-04 Thread Bob Walker

On Tue, 4 Mar 2014, Kevin Falcone wrote:


On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 03:38:54PM +, Sue Spence wrote:

Just tell us where you're going to hold the training and we will be
incredibly happy to make recommendations.


For those who are willing to offer personalized recommendations, I
appreciate it :)  I'm also going to go through the web archived links.

We're holding training in W2 3NR and I'm sleeping in  W1J 7BX
so, two corners of Hyde Park basically.  I recognize that I may be
traveling a bit for a decent pint in those neighborhoods.



http://london.randomness.org.uk/scripts/pubsearch.cgi?locale=&postal_district=&tube_distance=1000&tube=Lancaster+Gate+Station&realale=1&food=1&gbg=1&Search=Search

may help you. all 3 pubs in that result are worth going to.



-kevin



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Re: I have a bikeshed, colour suggestions appreciated

2013-12-03 Thread Bob Walker

On Tue, 3 Dec 2013, Aaron Trevena wrote:


So.. some of you might know I quite like bikes.. I now have a proper
bikeshed (or at least I will once I've built and attached the doors
tonight) - and I was hoping you nice people could give me some helpful
suggestions.

Thanks in advance,



my preference is stated in my sig.

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Re: Could use some hotel/travel help

2013-09-26 Thread Bob Walker

On Thu, 26 Sep 2013, Alan Mosca wrote:


Also don't underestimate the power of the red buses.


to not get you somewhere on time.

buses are fine but if you need to be soemwhere at a certain time like say 
catching a train you should leave yourself a relatively large margin of 
delayedness.




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Re: PDF creation?

2013-04-22 Thread Bob Walker

On Mon, 22 Apr 2013, Roger Bell_West wrote:


On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:45:43AM +0100, Mike Whitaker wrote:

On a similar subject, what PDF (or even text, assuming I can find something to 
extract the text on a page by page basis) indexing solutions are there out 
there in Perl?


pdftotext and then throw the text at a generic indexing package. I
keep meaning to do something with Plucene.



Lucy is possibly a better choice if you dont want to just use 
Elasticsearch. Since Lucy is actively developed unlike Plucene.

https://metacpan.org/release/Lucy


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Re: French invasion

2013-02-20 Thread Bob Walker

On Wed, 20 Feb 2013, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) wrote:


On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:19:00AM +0100, Philippe Bruhat (BooK) wrote:


We'll be in London (Covent Garden area) for an extended week-end from
February 23rd to 26th.

And more importantly, we'll be available for food and drinks on the
evenings of Sunday February 24th and Monday February 25th, if anyone
is interested!



After giving it a little more thought, Monday Feb 25 seems like a
better option. We don't have a place and time to meet yet.

Friends don't let friends pick a pub at random!




how about if we let perl pick it at random for you.
http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?action=random;category=good%20beer%20guide

id say the gunmakers since its not that far from covent garden.
the holborn whippet is quite good as well and may be bearable on a monday 
night.




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Re: Outreach II

2012-11-29 Thread Bob Walker

On Fri, 30 Nov 2012, Tomas Doran wrote:


I hit london devops tonight, where was everyone? (They have free beer)…



in the second row drinking free beer :)
racking up the uniques on untappd.


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Re: Perl outreach

2012-11-27 Thread Bob Walker

On Tue, 27 Nov 2012, Edmund von der Burg wrote:


 And npm is GLORIOUS.



I cant quite decide if the fact that it installs a module's dependencies 
in the directory of the module you're installing is insane or a very good 
idea.


Also when I last looked it was hard to determine from npm if a module was 
already installed.


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Re: 25 Years of Perl

2012-11-24 Thread Bob Walker

On Sat, 24 Nov 2012, James Laver wrote:


On 24 Nov 2012, at 00:36, Uri Guttman  wrote:


TAP is used everywhere now. perl invented and spread it so it is 
universal in the perl world.


TAP can be used certainly, but most languages have their own testing 
infrastructure. Most of it is pretty crap to be honest, but TAP is 
certainly not the only game in town. When dealing with Jenkins, for 
example, we have to use the JUnit harness because JUnit output is all 
that it understands.




there is a plugin which understands TAP but JUnit works so much better.
the fact that you can make prove output JUnit so easily is a big 
win.



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Re: [OT] benchmarking "typical" programs

2012-09-21 Thread Bob Walker

On Fri, 21 Sep 2012, Nicholas Clark wrote:


On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 08:56:34AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote:

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:35:18PM +0100, Nicholas Clark said:

Lots of "one trick pony" type benchmarks exist, but very few that actually
try to look like they are doing typical things typical programs do, at the
typical scales real programs work out, so


As a search engineer (recovering) I'm inclined to say - get a corpus of
docs, build an inverted index out of it and then do some searches. This
will test


1) File/IO Performance (Reading in the corpus)
2) Text manipulation (Tokenizing, Stop word removal, Stemming)
3) Data structure performance (Building the index)
4) Maths Calculation (performing TF/IDF searches)

All in pretty good, discrete steps. Plus by tweaking the size of the
corpus you can stress memory as well.


Thanks, this is a useful suggestion, but...

I'm not a search engineer (recovering or otherwise), so this represents
rather more work that I wanted to do. In that I first have to learn enough
of how to *be* a search engineer to figure out how to write the above code
to do something useful, and *then* how to write such code to a reasonably
performant production versions, and then to turn working code into something
sufficiently stand alone to be a benchmark.

I don't want to be spending my time figuring out the right way to do all the
above algorithms in Perl. I want to get as fast as possible to the point of
figuring out how the perl interpreter (mis)behaves when presented with
extant decent code to do the above.

Unless there's a CPAN-in-a-box for doing most of the four steps.
(which doesn't depend on external C libraries. That was one of my
"preferably" criteria)

So, next question - if I wanted to be as lazy as possible and write a search
engine (as described above) using as much of CPAN as possible, which modules
are recommended? :-)



the Plucene test suite maybe the answer. I know it cetainly does the 
indexing bit.



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Re: Programming Heresy

2012-03-30 Thread Bob Walker

On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Gareth Harper wrote:


On 30 March 2012 15:08, Steve Mynott  wrote:


Ummm this is london.pm.  People in London don't have sheds.




I live in London, and I have a shed.  So do most of my neighbours
(close to Aleandra Palace)


my shed even has power. no networking yet though.
the freezers full of pig make turning it into a server room quite hard as 
well.



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Re: Gatwick

2011-07-25 Thread Bob Walker

On Mon, 25 Jul 2011, Paul Makepeace wrote:


Fun fact: Gatwick is the world's busiest single (operational) runway airport.

Yes, only one strip.

Makes it nice 'n easy to get around



apart from if you arrive or depart from the other side of the 
skybridge.



On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 14:34, Smylers  wrote:

Hello. How big is Gatwick Airport? More specifically, about how long do
I need to allow for walking from its railway station to the check-in
hall ('Terminal S', according to my ticket)?

I don't think I've been to Gatwick before -- it isn't the obvious
airport for somebody living in Leeds -- but I will be flying to Riga
from there, so am currently trying to work out appropriate connecting
trains and wondering whether I need to allow for several miles of
travelators or anything in my timings.

And any wisdom on likely time between scheduled touchdown on the return
flight and being back at the station also appreciated, though I
appreciate that's laughably hard to predict. I'll only have hand
luggage, so does expecting to be at the platform in an hour sound
reasonable?

(I won't of course be depending on things being reasonable, and will add
a margin of error to allow for unreasonableness, but it'd be handy to
have some idea of the base time.)

Thanks -- and looking forward to seeing many of you in Riga.

Smylers
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Re: Gatwick

2011-07-25 Thread Bob Walker

On Mon, 25 Jul 2011, Smylers wrote:


Hello. How big is Gatwick Airport? More specifically, about how long do
I need to allow for walking from its railway station to the check-in
hall ('Terminal S', according to my ticket)?



the south terminal. which is where the train station is.

no more than 10 minutes.


I don't think I've been to Gatwick before -- it isn't the obvious
airport for somebody living in Leeds -- but I will be flying to Riga
from there, so am currently trying to work out appropriate connecting
trains and wondering whether I need to allow for several miles of
travelators or anything in my timings.






And any wisdom on likely time between scheduled touchdown on the return
flight and being back at the station also appreciated, though I
appreciate that's laughably hard to predict. I'll only have hand
luggage, so does expecting to be at the platform in an hour sound
reasonable?



Yep. Ive done it in under 30 minutes.


(I won't of course be depending on things being reasonable, and will add
a margin of error to allow for unreasonableness, but it'd be handy to
have some idea of the base time.)

Thanks -- and looking forward to seeing many of you in Riga.

Smylers



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Re: Emergency social meeting 25th June 2011 Bridge House

2011-06-23 Thread Bob Walker

On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, Léon Brocard wrote:


We're going to have an emergency social meeting on Saturday evening as
Job (jkva) and Mallory (stommepoes) are in town. We can also celebrate
the Perl 5.12.4, 5.14.1, and 5.15.0 releases.


From 6pm on 25th June 2011

Bridge House
218 Tower Bridge Road, SE1 2UP
http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?Bridge_House%2C_SE1_2UP

I shall be there, probably wearing orange. I'll try and bring a small
stuffed camel with me, but she's hiding in a box somewhere.

Who can make it?


for those who do there is a rioja and tapas festival in potters fields 
park this weekend which is opposite the pub.

http://www.riojatapasfantasticas.co.uk

if you need another reason to brave south london



Cheers, Leon



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Re: Someone needs to take jwz aside...

2011-06-08 Thread Bob Walker

On Wed, 8 Jun 2011, David Cantrell wrote:



It's the lack of a CPAN-a-like for any other language that keeps me
coming back to perl.

Of course, it's possible that the Comprehensive Python Archive Network
or similar for ruby/javascript/java/C/whatever does exist but I just
can't find it.  But then, if I can't find it, it's not much use.




ruby does have rubygems.org now and they have almost decided that it is 
the canonical archive. (rubyforge and github being previous choices). All 
though there has beeen a schism over what 
tool to use to install gems. http://slimgems.github.com/


of course it may fail on your definition of comprehensive :)

Lets put it this way. Im happy to be back sysadmining a perl stack instead 
of a ruby stack :)





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Re: Emergency social Thursday 2010-05-20, The Britannia, Borough SE1

2010-05-19 Thread Bob Walker

On Wed, 19 May 2010, David Cantrell wrote:


On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 05:41:10PM +0100, Dagfinn Ilmari Manns?ker wrote:


During yesterday's Norway Day emergency we accidentally stumbled
across/into The Britannia when we were looking for The Horseshoe Inn,
and discovered that they had an impressive selection of whiskies.  This
clearly calls for an emergency, so we booked a table for Thursday.


I think we once had an Orthodox social there.


we scouted it out for an Orhtodox social. Then went to the bridge house 
instead for the social.


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Re: Cheap places in central London?

2010-05-04 Thread Bob Walker

On Tue, 4 May 2010, David Cantrell wrote:


On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 12:31:59AM +0100, Victoria Conlan wrote:


If they're after the basics, look at travelodge.


I will never stay in a Travelodge again after staying at their one in
Edinburgh.  For what they charged, it was AWFUL.


Premier Inns are better.
Personally i stil wont use travelodge wince they put me in a smoking room 
even though i had booked non smoking one.


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Re: Solid state drives

2010-04-20 Thread Bob Walker

On Tue, 20 Apr 2010, David Precious wrote:



(Yeah, ideally you'd be running a dual-PSU box with each PSU connected to a
different supply, so you should never lose both, of course.)



which is fine as long as you paid attention when plugging stuff in and 
made sure that you didnt use more power than one feed could provide.
So one trips because of a random reason. the next trips becuaee you 
drawing too much power now.



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Re: Lovefilm, yes or no?

2010-04-14 Thread Bob Walker

On Wed, 14 Apr 2010, ian wrote:


On 14/04/2010 14:05, Peter Edwards wrote:



I was once asked at an interview 'how many digits of PI do you know?'.



enough. although id much rather cancel pi out.
which is why it is useful to know that pi*(10^7) seconds = 363.610261 days
or approximately 1 year.

hmm pie. http://isitpie.com/




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Re: [Fwd: Betonmarkets CTO position]

2010-02-11 Thread Bob Walker

On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Tom Hukins wrote:



Has anyone made a self referential TV show yet where they follow a
group of people trying to make a TV show?




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_Wallpaper


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Re: Looking for a secondhand Datahand Pro II

2009-10-20 Thread Bob Walker

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009, Gareth Kirwan wrote:


Nobody's replied with anything positive about datahands (or alternatives
other to keyboards), but rather "instead try this keyboard" or "do this
to avoid rsi issues". Worthwhile, useful and appreciated comments, but
IMO they're trying to avoid addressing a more fundamental limitation of
standard keyboards which I'd like to completely sidestep.


Im still waiting for my direct neural jack.

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Re: Credit Cards

2009-10-13 Thread Bob Walker

On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, David Cantrell wrote:


On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 02:21:14PM +0100, Philip Potter wrote:


wth? I call bullshit on play.com. If the card company will pay, it's
none of play.com's business whether you are creditworthy or not.
play.com gets the money and the credit card company is liable for any
credit risk you represent.


Eh-hem.  If there's a chargeback (eg because you're using a stolen card)
play.com get fucked over.


This is one of things that I hate about people who whine about e-commerce 
providers imposing stuff on them. They normally have a lot of it imposed 
on them by their banks and/or payment service providers by being told they 
will be responsible for fraud if they dont do it. Which is fine for a 5 
pound item but less so for a 2000 pound one.


You can even outsource your fraud screening.
http://www.the3rdman.co.uk/


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Re: He'brew

2009-10-03 Thread Bob Walker

On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Ovid wrote:


Since we're on topic, discussing beer, does anyone know where in London I can 
acquire He'brew, the Chosen Beer?  I bought some back in the states, only to 
discover that I really, really like this stuff.  It's a darker beer with hints 
of chocolate and nutty goodness.

 http://www.shmaltz.com/HEBREW/


Ive just read that the sloaney poney has it in bottles.

http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?White_Horse,_SW6_4UL



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Re: Payment Providers

2009-10-02 Thread Bob Walker

On Fri, 2 Oct 2009, James Laver wrote:



Banks usually don't care, but they will give liability to the retailer in 
case of fraud on non-3ds transactions.



Like I said forcing them.


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Re: Payment Providers

2009-10-02 Thread Bob Walker

On Fri, 2 Oct 2009, James Laver wrote:



6%? I know of sites with much larger dropouts than that. And one day some of 
them will finally realise it's stupid and stop taking 3dsecure at all.




In my experience sites are forced to by their bank.

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Re: Payment Providers

2009-10-01 Thread Bob Walker

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009, James Laver wrote:


So, recommendations? Horror Stories? Legal guidance?



3d secure is normally optional until your bank tells you otherwise.

SecureTrading seem fine. Dont know about perl interfaces but all you have 
to do is pass xml to a java app. So really shouldnt be that hard.


there are two i wouldnt recommend but they are stories best kept for the 
pub.



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Re: Beer was Re: Anyone drinking at the moment?

2009-09-30 Thread Bob Walker

On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Steve Mynott wrote:



 It also claimed that currently 1/3 pint measures were
available and legal in the UK.  I wondered if anyone had ever seen
this?


they always have been legal. you certianly now see thirds at CAMRA beer 
festivals and I have seen it in some pubs. Normally as part of a try 4 
beers  as thirds pay for a pint offer.


http://www.emberinns.co.uk/offer/enjoyallyourfavouritecaskales/



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Re: Anyone hiring at the moment?

2009-09-23 Thread Bob Walker


I suppose adding reviews of the places I went to a hypothetical
randomness guide to amsterdam would be good, because randomness is the
best word to describe the boss's  hotel selection for staff
traveling.


http://openguides.org/
http://search.cpan.org/~dom/OpenGuides-0.64/


There would only be a randomness guide if i was allowed to leave london.




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Re: Bubble sort dance

2009-09-20 Thread Bob Walker

On Sun, 20 Sep 2009, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:



I think we could choreograph a suite of sort dances. I fear the
twisted mess of corpses the heap sort could turn into though.


survival of the fattest? ;)



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Re: Does Perl has a code hider

2009-09-18 Thread Bob Walker

On Fri, 18 Sep 2009, Nicholas Clark wrote:


If people would really like an automatic thrice-weekly FAQ fettling list,
then people are welcome to set one up and advertise its existence to this
list.


not web2.0 enough.

faqfettlr.com

dont forget the pastel rounded corners.



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Re: More camels

2009-08-18 Thread Bob Walker

On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, Peter Corlett wrote:


On 18 Aug 2009, at 21:21, Nicholas Clark wrote:

On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 05:56:16PM +0100, Léon Brocard wrote:

him). Peter brought a huge camel to the emergency social on Friday.

Is there a picture of this it, in all its magnificence?


It's one of these:

http://www.hamleys.com/Camel_14_Inch_+_Hamleys_Toys/507749,default,pd.html




Surely everyone needs a Moose these days.
http://www.hamleys.com/Mugsy_Moose_9_Inch_+_Hamleys_Toys/930313,default,pd.html


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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Reminder: London.pm social meet, Thursday evening

2009-08-03 Thread Bob Walker

On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, James Laver wrote:


On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:09 PM, David Cantrell wrote:

A gentle reminder to you gentles, that there will be a London.pm
social at the Founders' Arms on Thursday evening from somewhere around
6:30 onwards.

We've not bothered to book anything because so many people are in Lisbon
for YAPC::Europe so we're not expecting a huge turn-out.

Early birds please grab a couple of tables outside if it's a nice day!


This is heresy! The one true meeting is in Lisbon.



of course anyone with any taste will be at the gbbf anyway.


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Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras

2009-07-30 Thread Bob Walker

On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Paul Makepeace wrote:



I think this is a great idea, and would be much, much funnier (and
well received) if Perl spent some time poking fun at itself. Lord
knows, there's enough scope for that.


not really fun but quite obvious since a lot of you are going to be at 
YAPC:EU next week.


perl.en: Hi, my name is perl
perl.fr: Salut, mon nom est perl
perl.de: Hi, mein Name ist perl
perl.pt: Oi, meu nome é perl
and so on until youve exhausted the possibilites
all: there is more than one way to do it!

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Re: Straight Jackets and Video Cameras

2009-07-30 Thread Bob Walker

On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Paul Makepeace wrote:



I think this is a great idea, and would be much, much funnier (and
well received) if Perl spent some time poking fun at itself. Lord
knows, there's enough scope for that.


perl5.8: Hello my name is perl five point eight
perl5.8: far too long lets try this
perl5.8: hi my name is perl5.8
perl5.8: still to long!
perl5.8: hi im perl5.8
perl5.10: dude, just say hi

can you see what i did there :)



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Re: Fwd: June Social, Gunmakers EC1R, Clerkenwell. Thurs 4th June.

2009-06-04 Thread Bob Walker

On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Nicholas Clark wrote:



PS Everyone knows that the only true drink is Cidah! So you're all wrong. :-)



Cidah! is bad and worng as is GIN

also, joss whedon is not the saviour of television,
terry pratchett isnt actualy that funny,
perl is dead!


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Re: [OT] New Buffy movie

2009-05-28 Thread Bob Walker

On Thu, 28 May 2009, Billy Abbott wrote:


On Wed, 27 May 2009, Dave Cross wrote:


Avleen Vig wrote:

I have to say, that is simply awesome.

I can't wait.


Er... did you read the same story as I did? Buffy without Whedon. That's 
not awesome, that's a travesty.


As has been said Elsewhere - remain calm and repeat 'Joss Whedon is not the 
saviour of television/film/whatever'.




excellent! the brainwashing is starting to take.

i actually quite liked the original film. then again anything with rutger 
hauer in rocks my boat. (salute of the jugger maybe the best film evah!)




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Re: Optimisation

2009-03-03 Thread Bob Walker

On Tue, 3 Mar 2009, Léon Brocard wrote:


2009/3/3 Adrian Lai :

2009/3/3 Jasper :

It's ironically sub-optimal to have wasted so much of your and our
time on something so trivial. ;)

Joss Whedon has a new tv show.


It has Eliza Dushku in it.


But no vampires.


repeat after me

"Joss Whedon is not the saviour of television"



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Re: *simple* blogging (addon) software

2009-02-25 Thread Bob Walker

On Wed, 25 Feb 2009, Simon Cozens wrote:


Dirk Koopman wrote:

No MySQL/postgres or complex databases allowed, won't allow either on
the server. I would accept (a tad reluctantly) SQLite3, but would prefer
something that is directory/file based.


Two good choices are Blosxom and Bryar, then.


ive moved onto chronicle from those two.
http://www.steve.org.uk/Software/chronicle/
i was even a good user and provided a patch instead of whining.


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Re: London.pm Dim sum Thursday 11am: Din Tai Fung

2009-02-12 Thread Bob Walker

On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, Léon Brocard wrote:


2009/2/9 Léon Brocard :


Din Tai Fung
No. 194 (entrance of Yunkang Street)
Xinyi Road Sec. 2
Da-an District
Taipei City 10651
Taiwan (R.O.C.)
http://www.dintaifung.com.tw/en/area_a_detail.asp?AreaNO=27&AreaCountryNO=1


Where were you guys? clkao, gugod, Jake and I were there. It was very
tasty indeed ;-)


its not 11AM GMT yet.

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Re: Distributed LONDON Lunch - City Pie

2009-02-09 Thread Bob Walker

On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, James Laver wrote:



Pie is for all, regardless of newbie status.

We demand pie justice*



as long as it is true pie and not heretical pie.


http://isitpie.com


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Re: ANNOUNCE: Dim Sum Thursday 1pm Chiswick

2009-01-07 Thread Bob Walker

On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, the hatter wrote:


On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, Bob Walker wrote:


given that i seem to still be sitting in a colo my appearance at dim sum
is becoming even less likely by the minute.


Time in lieu == dim sum, surely ?



it was more if i had to go back tommorrow because stuff didnt get fixed 
today :)

thankfully stuff is fixed enough that i can make dim sum!
hooray!
assuming i dont get dragged into a meeting about todays fun.
boo!


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Re: ANNOUNCE: Dim Sum Thursday 1pm Chiswick

2009-01-07 Thread Bob Walker

On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, the hatter wrote:


On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, Bob Walker wrote:


I pick Oriental Brasserie in Chiswick
http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?Oriental_Brasserie,_W4_2HD


Sounds good to me, see you there.


given that i seem to still be sitting in a colo my appearance at dim sum 
is becoming even less likely by the minute.


those who want dim sum may wish to make alternative plans. or just go to 
oriental brasserie without me. The 2 other people who work in chiswick may 
still turn up anyway. of course i still may be abel to make it as well.




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Re: ANNOUNCE: Dim Sum Thursday 1pm Chiswick

2009-01-07 Thread Bob Walker

On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, Bruce Richardson wrote:


On Wed, Jan 07, 2009 at 03:44:23PM +, James Laver wrote:


Anyway, my feelings are clear: Pie is better than dim sum (at least
when in the city).


I'm sure it's possible to combine the best features of dim sum and pie.
Bob?


chicken feet pie!

and most dim sum are almost pie like.



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Re: LPW videos

2009-01-07 Thread Bob Walker

On Wed, 7 Jan 2009, Aaron Trevena wrote:


I haven't seen any video on flickr, no idea if it's worth paying the
pro subscription - although I am tempted.



videos have a max length of something like 5 minutes on flickr. possibly 
shorter. They arnt videos they are moving pictures or some bullshit like 
that.


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ANNOUNCE: Dim Sum Thursday 1pm Chiswick

2009-01-07 Thread Bob Walker
Since leon is away the likelyhood of dim sum being arranged was quite 
small so I took it upon my self to do so.


I pick Oriental Brasserie in Chiswick
http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?Oriental_Brasserie,_W4_2HD

those who feel a trek to chiswick is a bit far are more than welcome to 
pick their own destinations. a distrbuted dim sum if you like.


that is all.


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Re: Emergency (or regular?) social?

2008-12-18 Thread Bob Walker

On Thu, 18 Dec 2008, Luis Motta Campos wrote:


 I am staying at the Luxury Inn, 154 Tottenham Rd, and there will be
Internet connection there. If you're interested in showing me some nice
english pub and some nice english beers, please let me know.


insert mandatory plug for rgl.
http://london.randomness.org.uk
in particular.
http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?Category_Good_Beer_Guide
http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?Category_Restaurants

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Re: London.pm Dim sum Thursday 1pm: Bamboo Basket

2008-12-03 Thread Bob Walker

On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Léon Brocard wrote:


2008/12/1 Léon Brocard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

This is today! Who's coming?



i should be

Its just close enough that its only a 2 hour lunch instead of 3 :)


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Re: Perl is dead

2008-12-03 Thread Bob Walker

On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, James Laver wrote:


Most of the ruby jobs (usually
rails) are startups that will die a couple of months in or those gigs the
BBC can't seem to get rid of.


not that there are any spare ruby programmers to go round anyway. Although 
hopefully this is changing soon with lots more startups going bust.($work 
are looking for at least 2 more currently(we even have paying 
customers(not that this is the place for job ads)))



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Re: [OT] Perl 5.8.9 RC1 is out

2008-11-13 Thread Bob Walker

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008, Léon Brocard wrote:


2008/11/11 Nicholas Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


ftp://ftp.cpan.org/pub/CPAN/authors/id/N/NW/NWCLARK/perl-5.8.9-RC1.tar.bz2
no-one has tested it on *your* work code. And if you don't, and there are
regressions in RC1 that hurt your code, but you don't find out until after
5.8.9 is released, because you didn't test it now, then


How is 5.8.9 RC1 working out for everyone? It compiles and passes
tests on all the different computers and virtual machines I have
access to and I've run a substantial amount of CPAN on it without any
problems so far. How about you?


I compiled and tested on solaris 10 (which is what i really care about). 
Then tested Openguides as well. ( I got errors but ones I  was expecting.

 So Nick isnt to blame).

Hey, I even provided a doc patch to perl589delta.pod

http://public.activestate.com/cgi-bin/perlbrowse/p/34826


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Re: London.pm Dim sum Thursday 1pm: New World

2008-10-30 Thread Bob Walker

On Thu, 30 Oct 2008, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:



Let the games begin...



isnt that 4 years away?

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openguides hackfest 18th-19th October

2008-10-10 Thread Bob Walker

hello!

this is a gentle reminder that next weekend is the openguides hackfest in 
oxford.


http://dev.openguides.org/wiki/OxfordHackfest2008
http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/1022567

kake and i should be in attendance both days.




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Re: London.pm Dim sum Thursday 1pm: Oriental Brasserie

2008-09-25 Thread Bob Walker

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Léon Brocard wrote:


2008/9/24 Léon Brocard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Oriental Brasserie
18 Devonshire Road
London, W4 2HD
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=W42HD
http://www.orientalbrasserie.com/
http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?Oriental_Brasserie,_W4_2HD


This is today, who is coming?



Since it is only 5 minutes from work for once it would be churlish to not 
turn up. I may even drag a cow-orker along. (tasty fresh blood)





Léon, London.pm Dim Sum Mandarin




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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Croyden.pm social: change of venue

2008-09-12 Thread Bob Walker

On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, David Cantrell wrote:


I've changed my mind.  Instead of the Porter and Sorter, we'll be at the
Green Dragon instead.

http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?Green_Dragon,_CR0_1NA



a much better choice.


Blame Kake if it's rubbish :-)



id blame the landlady for lulling lots of camra members into thinking its 
a good pub.


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Re: [job advert] looking for a perl person to write a web control panel

2008-08-31 Thread Bob Walker

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008, Peter Corlett wrote:


Do you want a pony on a stick with that?



surely a metal pole would be more useful for spit roasting the pony.

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Re: Surrey.pm (was: back to the 80's)

2003-09-16 Thread Bob Walker
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Richard Atkinson wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Sep 2003, Andy Wardley wrote:
>
> > I live in Guildford, Surrey and I'm also rather partial to beer.
> > I think it must be time to organise the second ever Surrey.pm
> > meeting.
>
> But /are/ there any decent real ale pubs in Guildford? It's all trendy
> wine bars these days, from what I've seen. Oh how my heart pines for the
> Penderel's, the Knight's Templar or the Calthorpe :(
the white house down by the river.
the three pidgeons should still be okay.
or of course you could go to the red lion in godalming.



>
> (Though I am definitely agreed in principle on a surrey.pm meet)
>
>
> Richard
>
>

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Happy 5th Birthday London.pm - Social Thurs 7th August

2003-07-29 Thread Bob Walker
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Alex McLintock wrote:

> At 14:17 29/07/03, Dave Cross wrote:
> >Actually, we _were_ in the downstairs bar for the first meeting.
> >
> >See <http://london.pm.org/nx_meetings/1998_aug.shtml> for photos
> >of fresh-faced youths.
> >
> >Dave..
>
> Goodness Me. Gidon Moont was a London Perl Monger? Gosh!

i certainly had an attack of small world syndrome when i saw that.

>
> He was ICSF chairman a few years after me. How many members of
> ICSF are in London.pm? must be loads adam, bob, me, gidon,
> phil, um, more I've forgotten.
>

we get everywhere. its a plot i tell you :)


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Re: The joys of web development

2003-04-02 Thread Bob Walker
On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Chris Benson wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 12:10:51PM +0200, Robin Berjon wrote:
> >
> > After eliminating bots and everything under 0.1%, my logs give me
> > Gecko+KHTML at 17% and IE5+ at 83%. The rest doesn't exist. This means you
> > can reasonably start thinking about XHTML 1.1 Strict with some good CSS (as
> > eg w3.org).
>
> But surely that's because the elite lynx and w3m[*] users
> (a) d/load only the index.html (not the 75 images) then
> (b) leave, vowing never to come back to a site that doesn't work.
>
> It's sort of a self-fulfilling prophesy ... try using e.g.
> http://www.pcworld.co.uk/ in anything except IE for a taster:
> - lynx and w3m: no chance
> - NS7: links don't work then crashes
> - Moz1.2: hangs
> - Konqueror: "tabbed" areas aren't visible then the tabs disappear
>
> Class act -- I won't be back there again. So in their logs everything
> except IE "doesn't exist" :-(


netscape 4.7 works just.


>
> [*] insert non-IE browser of choice
>

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Re: RegEx for UK Postal Codes

2003-04-01 Thread Bob Walker
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Philip Newton wrote:

> On 1 Apr 2003 at 16:53, Nicholas Clark wrote:
>
> > It may not be clear that the "she" in question is also the head of state
> > of a lot of places (Australia, Canada, Grenada, the UK to name but a few).
>
> Ah! Brenda.
>
> (Is she still called that? My father sometimes uses the name, but he
> came to Germany over 30 years ago and his "current slang" is usually
> rather dated.)

It is how Private Eye refer to her still, if that is any indication.
Then again Private Eye will keep jokes running for a long time.

>
>
>

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Re: CPANPLUS and long pathnames

2003-03-22 Thread Bob Walker
On Sat, 22 Mar 2003, David Cantrell wrote:

> On Saturday, March 22, 2003 22:38 + Nicholas Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > So, still a "bug". Is @LongLink some sort of gnu-ism?
>
> The only place I've seen it is on OS X.   it's part of the kludge
> that provides Unix-like filesystem semantics on HFS+ 

ive seen it with tar on openbsd. its when as it suggests the filename is
too long in its eyes. I had got it becuase i was untaring soemthgin with
quite deep fiel structure then a silly default word document name.


>
>

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Re: Anyone have a spare Sun Keyboard ?

2003-03-10 Thread Bob Walker
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Ben wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 01:20:54PM +, Lusercop wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 01:22:58PM +, Ben wrote:
> > > On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 12:55:24PM +, Lusercop wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 12:24:59PM +, Leo Lapworth wrote:
> > > > > Yes, it has been said I should use serial console
> > > > > instead but as I'm doing a complete reinstall
> > > > > I'd rather use a keyboard.
> > > >
> > > > This is a non-sequitur. Please explain.
> > >
> > > Actually, I'd agree with Leo. I've seen Solaris installs over console go
> > > horribly evilly wrong (Yes, I know that they *shouldn't* but)
> >
> > OK, I'm surprised at this. I had no problem doing a solaris install like
> > that, though I may try and do a jumpstart for the one that I'm about to
> > do.
>
> Errm, you may want to re-read what I wrote, ducks.
>
> I have seen Solaris installs over console go wrong. That does not imply
> that every install I've done like that (this is over a data set of at most
> four points) has gone wrong. I just prefer not to chance it.


this is not the consoles fault or indeeed the solaris installers fault.
this is user error.
Yes i have messed up several solaris installs over console but only cause
i made the wrong choices. (admittedly several of these were while trying
to work out the install procedure but youve got to learn somehow.)


>
> Ben
>
>

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Re: spamassassin

2003-02-28 Thread Bob Walker
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Robin Szemeti wrote:

> On Friday 28 February 2003 22:34, Bob Walker wrote:
> > On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, David Cantrell wrote:
> > > I'd forgotten about running stuff out of inittab though - I don't often
> > > go delving in there.  It's a bit of a nasty hack though.
>
> I saved forgetting abut innittab by not knowing about it in the first place :)
>
> > you could always do it with DJB's deamontools. which checks to make sure
> > things are runnign and if not starts them.
>
> ooh .. wild guess .. (ive not seen that particular peice of DJB crackware) ..
> mmm it will need a /daemontools directory (as in a new directory in / ) the
> config files are in /var, the binaries too. the there will be some lock
> files, they could be anywhere .. there will be no man pages (except on the
> net, that way they are never out of date, but may not match your software) ...
>
> am I close?

yep. som eo fhis tuff is quite nice though. and yes he does have slight
quirks. Im led to belive he doesnt comment his code either.

>
>

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Re: spamassassin

2003-02-28 Thread Bob Walker
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, David Cantrell wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 08:09:27PM +, Steve Keay wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 06:55:51PM +, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> > > Why? You're going to get mail, so it'll get started. And it doesn't
> > > spontaneously exit of its own accord so why not just start it by a
> > > known, standard mechanism?
> > These mostly assume you have root.  My favorite is to run daemons out
> > of inittab so they automatically start if they exit.
>
> Well, it's my box so I do have root, but even so it's a pain to have to
> do it, cos that would first require noticing that spam wasn't getting
> filtered.  Which means getting spam in my mailbox.  Which is bad.
>
> I'd forgotten about running stuff out of inittab though - I don't often
> go delving in there.  It's a bit of a nasty hack though.
>
>

you could always do it with DJB's deamontools. which checks to make sure
things are runnign and if not starts them.

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Re: alternative work

2003-02-27 Thread Bob Walker
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Toby|Wintrmute wrote:

>
> He is now working as a carpenter, and she is a property manager.
>
> Apparently there's a lot of work for a good carpenter, you get flexible hours,
> your own business, and good pay.
>
there is a lot of well paid work for skilled people within the building
industry. chippies earn a lot of money but sparkies earn about the same but
don't have to get as dirty. plumbers arn't badly paid aswell.

there is in fact a shortage of skilled people in the building industry.
especially given the push to build more homes in the south-east or so I'm
led to believe.
although coming from a long line of builders ( I even have the crack to
prove it) I'm certainly happier in the IT industry. building is to much
like manual labour, unless you are a sparky.

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Re: [PUB] Fitzroy Tavern, Fitzrovia

2003-01-28 Thread Bob Walker
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Alex McLintock wrote:

>
> It will also be worth going to Picocon at Imperial College on the 22 Feb
> which is also the same weekend as Redemption - a Blake's Seven Babylon Five
> convention *near* London, but not in it

i noticed they clashed, at least we didnt clash with micrcon.

> PICOCON ADVERT

> This year Picocon 20 is on the 22nd February 2003 to be held at Imperial
> College, London, UK. We have two Guests of Honour: Jack Cohen and Gwyneth
> Jones.
> There will also be other events throughout the day, such as networked games
> and a pub-style quiz, and we will be showing a film in the evening. Picocon
> membership is £2.00 to ICSF members, £5.00 concessions (other students,
> DHSS, OAP), and £8.00 for everyone else. Admission to the film only is £3.50.
> For more information please see our web page at:
> http://www.su.ic.ac.uk/icsf/social/events/picocon_ 20.html or email me. In

http://www.su.ic.ac.uk/icsf/social/events/picocon_20.html
will be more helpful.

> particular, the web page will be updated as soon as we've confirmed the
> film we're showing. Alternatively, please feel free to contact me if you
> have any questions."
>

the rumour is that the film will be 12 monkeys.
also the main reason to coem of course is to drink cheap beer. but i could
be biased. :)

The rumour is also that picocon will have Peter F Hamiliton next year.

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Re: ADSL Help

2002-11-06 Thread Bob Walker
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Robert Shiels wrote:

>
> I have two phone lines at home, one for voice and one for my normal analogue
> modem. Should I switch my main voice line to ADSL and cancel the other
> account?

yes.

>The ADSL line can handle voice and data at the same time yes?
yes

> But
> if there was a power cut, or the ISP I'm using are down for some reason, can
> I still make normal BT calls on the line?

yes

>I don't suppose a converted line
> can handle 2 voice calls at the same time, which I can currently do with the
> 2 lines.
it cant handle 2 voice calls.


>
> sorry for the random questions, I've got a bit of a cold today and my head
> feels a bit like cotton wool.
>

and dont forget to get your microfilter.


> /Robert
>
>
>

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Re: Monday Night Pint

2002-11-04 Thread Bob Walker
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Greg McCarroll wrote:

>
> Indeed it is, in the next few minutes[1] i'll be slouching towards the
> jerusalem myself, i'm wondering if they have started doing a nice
> warming winter/christmas ale yet - if not we will have to put up with
> their many many other fine beers.
>

Having done a brief scoutign mission on thursday i can report that the
brewery does not currenlty have any stock of thier winter ale. and
certainly the pub didnt. along with the cinnamon and apple ale.
i can however say that the lemon and ginger ale was most refreshing.



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Re: Reuse; was: applying patterns

2002-10-10 Thread Bob Walker

On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Tim Sweetman wrote:
 some waffle about perl and cpan

>
> 1. An adequately general-purpose tool may turn into a language (like
> Perl). Or else become a high albedo pachyderm of some kind. A
> screwdriver is a bettter screwdriver than a Swiss Army Knife is. You can
> be too general.
>

Thats what you get for using a swiss army knife. However I do find the
screwdrivers on a leatherman wave to be better than most screwdrivers.
Mainly because of the material its made of. The only thing really lacking
is that its not magnetised but i hear rumours this can be solved by
walking near large magnets a lot.



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