Re: Dear Dr Who experts...

2014-10-09 Thread Mark Keating

Hi Nicholas,

IIRC the hatch isn't in the Tardis ceiling, but in an underground 
chamber of Skaro. I think you might mean the episodes Destiny of the 
Daleks in Season 17:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/episodeguide/destinydaleks/

Tom didn't do many Dalek stories, but he does climb up his scarf to 
escape the daleks and throw a one-liner quip at them.


Regards

Mark

He calls down to them
On 09/10/2014 01:28, Ben Evans wrote:

Now there's a T-shirt waiting to happen.

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Dominic Humphries p...@oneandoneis2.com wrote:

Real daleks don't climb stairs, they level the building :)



On 8 October 2014 19:55:34 Gareth Harper spansh+lon...@gmail.com wrote:


It's not just the more recent episodes (depending on your definition of
recent), the Daleks could levitate during my childhood era (80s-90s).

I'm sure I remember an episode from the Sylvester McCoy era where the
Daleks were chasing him and to evade them he simply ran up some stairs and
then the daleks levitated after him.  A quick google shows that the
episode
was called remembrance of the daleks unfortunately I don't have the time
to wade through the many youtube clips to try and view it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_of_the_Daleks

In the cliffhanger to the first episode, a Dalek levitates up stairs. The
sequence was intended to put to rest a joke about the inability of the
monsters to do so.

The BBC's website seems to imply it's always been that way.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/episodeguide/remembrancedaleks/detail.shtml

This story reveals for the first time that the Daleks are capable of
ascending stairs. (Although this is the first time that a Dalek is
actually
seen to ascend a flight of stairs, there is a scene in season two's The
Chase: Journey into Terror in which such an occurrence is clearly implied;
and season twenty-two's Revelation of the Daleks shows that both the
Daleks
and Davros are capable of hovering above the ground.)

According to wikipedia, season 2 was ~1965.  I can't help you with the Tom
Baker question though, it's a tiny bit before my time.

--

Gareth


On 8 October 2014 11:19, Nicholas Clark n...@ccl4.org wrote:


Dear Dr Who experts (I'm sure that there are many here)...

IIRC there's a scene in an episode of Dr Who (in Tom Baker's time) where
the Doctor escapes by climbing up through a hatch in the TARDIS ceiling,
calling down a one liner to the Daleks stuck below just before he closes
it

1) Am I remembering this correctly?
2) If so, is a clip of this online somewhere, in an easily linkable
form? *


Further, my understanding is that in the more recent episodes, the
Daleks
have figured out how to overcome their previous inability to cope with
stairs, ladders, etc, uttering levitate before doing exactly that.

3) Is there a representative clip of this online?

Nicholas Clark

* please don't post links to places that would make Auntie upset.








Re: Dear Dr Who experts...

2014-10-09 Thread Joel Bernstein
Doesn't the plot of one of the 1960s films hinge on the Daleks not being
able to levitate though? Bit inconsistent. Are the films not considered
canonical?

On 8 October 2014 16:27, David Dorward da...@dorward.me.uk wrote:

 On 8 Oct 2014, at 11:19, Nicholas Clark wrote:

  IIRC there's a scene in an episode of Dr Who (in Tom Baker's time) where
 the Doctor escapes by climbing up through a hatch in the TARDIS ceiling,
 calling down a one liner to the Daleks stuck below just before he closes
 it

 1) Am I remembering this correctly?


 It was a ventilation shaft (I think), in the old Kaled Bunker on Skaro.
 The episode was part of Destiny of the Daleks.

  2) If so, is a clip of this online somewhere, in an easily linkable form?
 *


 I can't find one.

  Further, my understanding is that in the more recent episodes, the Daleks
 have figured out how to overcome their previous inability to cope with
 stairs, ladders, etc, uttering levitate before doing exactly that.


 First seen in Remembrance of the Daleks.

  3) Is there a representative clip of this online?


 Looks like someone pointed a camcorder at a TV so the quality is dodgy.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1J3InFpGtQ

 --
 David Dorward
 http://dorward.co.uk/




Re: Dear Dr Who experts...

2014-10-09 Thread Joel Bernstein
I think I meant this film:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Who_and_the_Daleks

On 8 October 2014 21:11, Joel Bernstein j...@fysh.org wrote:

 Doesn't the plot of one of the 1960s films hinge on the Daleks not being
 able to levitate though? Bit inconsistent. Are the films not considered
 canonical?

 On 8 October 2014 16:27, David Dorward da...@dorward.me.uk wrote:

 On 8 Oct 2014, at 11:19, Nicholas Clark wrote:

  IIRC there's a scene in an episode of Dr Who (in Tom Baker's time) where
 the Doctor escapes by climbing up through a hatch in the TARDIS ceiling,
 calling down a one liner to the Daleks stuck below just before he closes
 it

 1) Am I remembering this correctly?


 It was a ventilation shaft (I think), in the old Kaled Bunker on Skaro.
 The episode was part of Destiny of the Daleks.

  2) If so, is a clip of this online somewhere, in an easily linkable
 form? *


 I can't find one.

  Further, my understanding is that in the more recent episodes, the Daleks
 have figured out how to overcome their previous inability to cope with
 stairs, ladders, etc, uttering levitate before doing exactly that.


 First seen in Remembrance of the Daleks.

  3) Is there a representative clip of this online?


 Looks like someone pointed a camcorder at a TV so the quality is dodgy.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1J3InFpGtQ

 --
 David Dorward
 http://dorward.co.uk/





Re: Dear Dr Who experts...

2014-10-09 Thread Moray Jones
You're all making a very common error - it's not Dr Who, it's Mr Who.

I remember it from Trivial Pursuit. Or was that something to do with Star
Trek...can never remember.

On 9 October 2014 09:17, Mark Keating m.keat...@shadowcat.co.uk wrote:

 Hi Nicholas,

 IIRC the hatch isn't in the Tardis ceiling, but in an underground chamber
 of Skaro. I think you might mean the episodes Destiny of the Daleks in
 Season 17:

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/episodeguide/destinydaleks/

 Tom didn't do many Dalek stories, but he does climb up his scarf to escape
 the daleks and throw a one-liner quip at them.

 Regards

 Mark

 He calls down to them

 On 09/10/2014 01:28, Ben Evans wrote:

 Now there's a T-shirt waiting to happen.

 On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Dominic Humphries p...@oneandoneis2.com
 wrote:

 Real daleks don't climb stairs, they level the building :)



 On 8 October 2014 19:55:34 Gareth Harper spansh+lon...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  It's not just the more recent episodes (depending on your definition of
 recent), the Daleks could levitate during my childhood era (80s-90s).

 I'm sure I remember an episode from the Sylvester McCoy era where the
 Daleks were chasing him and to evade them he simply ran up some stairs
 and
 then the daleks levitated after him.  A quick google shows that the
 episode
 was called remembrance of the daleks unfortunately I don't have the
 time
 to wade through the many youtube clips to try and view it.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_of_the_Daleks

 In the cliffhanger to the first episode, a Dalek levitates up stairs.
 The
 sequence was intended to put to rest a joke about the inability of the
 monsters to do so.

 The BBC's website seems to imply it's always been that way.


 http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/episodeguide/
 remembrancedaleks/detail.shtml

 This story reveals for the first time that the Daleks are capable of
 ascending stairs. (Although this is the first time that a Dalek is
 actually
 seen to ascend a flight of stairs, there is a scene in season two's The
 Chase: Journey into Terror in which such an occurrence is clearly
 implied;
 and season twenty-two's Revelation of the Daleks shows that both the
 Daleks
 and Davros are capable of hovering above the ground.)

 According to wikipedia, season 2 was ~1965.  I can't help you with the
 Tom
 Baker question though, it's a tiny bit before my time.

 --

 Gareth


 On 8 October 2014 11:19, Nicholas Clark n...@ccl4.org wrote:

  Dear Dr Who experts (I'm sure that there are many here)...

 IIRC there's a scene in an episode of Dr Who (in Tom Baker's time)
 where
 the Doctor escapes by climbing up through a hatch in the TARDIS
 ceiling,
 calling down a one liner to the Daleks stuck below just before he
 closes
 it

 1) Am I remembering this correctly?
 2) If so, is a clip of this online somewhere, in an easily linkable
 form? *


 Further, my understanding is that in the more recent episodes, the
 Daleks
 have figured out how to overcome their previous inability to cope with
 stairs, ladders, etc, uttering levitate before doing exactly that.

 3) Is there a representative clip of this online?

 Nicholas Clark

 * please don't post links to places that would make Auntie upset.







Re: Dear Dr Who experts...

2014-10-09 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 09:11:05PM +0200, Joel Bernstein wrote:
Are the films not considered canonical?

Even for a show so utterly free of consistency as _Doctor Who_, the
films are not considered canonical.


Re: Dear Dr Who experts...

2014-10-09 Thread Sam Kington
 Doesn't the plot of one of the 1960s films hinge on the Daleks not being
 able to levitate though? Bit inconsistent. Are the films not considered
 canonical?

No. (The wikipedia article itself says The film was not intended to form part 
of the ongoing storylines of the television series. and e.g. Peter Cushing's 
Doctor wasn't in the line-up of all 12 doctors in the 50th anniversary special.)

Sam
-- 
Website: http://www.illuminated.co.uk/




Re: Dear Dr Who experts...

2014-10-09 Thread Schmoo
Dr Who, the famous neurologist who specialises in the study of amnesia?

On 9 October 2014 14:02, Moray Jones moray.jo...@gmail.com wrote:
 You're all making a very common error - it's not Dr Who, it's Mr Who.

 I remember it from Trivial Pursuit. Or was that something to do with Star
 Trek...can never remember.

 On 9 October 2014 09:17, Mark Keating m.keat...@shadowcat.co.uk wrote:

 Hi Nicholas,

 IIRC the hatch isn't in the Tardis ceiling, but in an underground chamber
 of Skaro. I think you might mean the episodes Destiny of the Daleks in
 Season 17:

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/episodeguide/destinydaleks/

 Tom didn't do many Dalek stories, but he does climb up his scarf to escape
 the daleks and throw a one-liner quip at them.

 Regards

 Mark

 He calls down to them

 On 09/10/2014 01:28, Ben Evans wrote:

 Now there's a T-shirt waiting to happen.

 On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Dominic Humphries p...@oneandoneis2.com
 wrote:

 Real daleks don't climb stairs, they level the building :)



 On 8 October 2014 19:55:34 Gareth Harper spansh+lon...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  It's not just the more recent episodes (depending on your definition of
 recent), the Daleks could levitate during my childhood era (80s-90s).

 I'm sure I remember an episode from the Sylvester McCoy era where the
 Daleks were chasing him and to evade them he simply ran up some stairs
 and
 then the daleks levitated after him.  A quick google shows that the
 episode
 was called remembrance of the daleks unfortunately I don't have the
 time
 to wade through the many youtube clips to try and view it.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_of_the_Daleks

 In the cliffhanger to the first episode, a Dalek levitates up stairs.
 The
 sequence was intended to put to rest a joke about the inability of the
 monsters to do so.

 The BBC's website seems to imply it's always been that way.


 http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/episodeguide/
 remembrancedaleks/detail.shtml

 This story reveals for the first time that the Daleks are capable of
 ascending stairs. (Although this is the first time that a Dalek is
 actually
 seen to ascend a flight of stairs, there is a scene in season two's The
 Chase: Journey into Terror in which such an occurrence is clearly
 implied;
 and season twenty-two's Revelation of the Daleks shows that both the
 Daleks
 and Davros are capable of hovering above the ground.)

 According to wikipedia, season 2 was ~1965.  I can't help you with the
 Tom
 Baker question though, it's a tiny bit before my time.

 --

 Gareth


 On 8 October 2014 11:19, Nicholas Clark n...@ccl4.org wrote:

  Dear Dr Who experts (I'm sure that there are many here)...

 IIRC there's a scene in an episode of Dr Who (in Tom Baker's time)
 where
 the Doctor escapes by climbing up through a hatch in the TARDIS
 ceiling,
 calling down a one liner to the Daleks stuck below just before he
 closes
 it

 1) Am I remembering this correctly?
 2) If so, is a clip of this online somewhere, in an easily linkable
 form? *


 Further, my understanding is that in the more recent episodes, the
 Daleks
 have figured out how to overcome their previous inability to cope with
 stairs, ladders, etc, uttering levitate before doing exactly that.

 3) Is there a representative clip of this online?

 Nicholas Clark

 * please don't post links to places that would make Auntie upset.







Re: Dear Dr Who experts...

2014-10-09 Thread Chris Jack

 From: Joel Bernstein  wrote:
 I think I meant this film:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Who_and_the_Daleks

Bernard Cribbins was the heroic lead in the sequel - which, AFAIK, makes him 
the only major character actor to appear in both the parallel universe of the 
Cushing movies and the main TV reality.

More obscure actors did as well apparently: Philip Madoc/Eileen Way/Kenneth 
Watson/Robert Jewell anyone?

And slightly more on topic: Peter Hawkins and David Graham who voiced various 
daleks. 

Re: Dear Dr Who experts...

2014-10-09 Thread Dave Cross

On 08/10/14 20:11, Joel Bernstein wrote:

Are the films not considered canonical?


The two films aren't canonical. They are loose remakes of the first two 
Dalek stories from the TV series. With Peter Cushing playing a human 
inventor called Doctor Who.


Dave...



Dear Dr Who experts...

2014-10-08 Thread Nicholas Clark
Dear Dr Who experts (I'm sure that there are many here)...

IIRC there's a scene in an episode of Dr Who (in Tom Baker's time) where
the Doctor escapes by climbing up through a hatch in the TARDIS ceiling,
calling down a one liner to the Daleks stuck below just before he closes it

1) Am I remembering this correctly?
2) If so, is a clip of this online somewhere, in an easily linkable form? *


Further, my understanding is that in the more recent episodes, the Daleks
have figured out how to overcome their previous inability to cope with
stairs, ladders, etc, uttering levitate before doing exactly that.

3) Is there a representative clip of this online?

Nicholas Clark

* please don't post links to places that would make Auntie upset.


Re: Dear Dr Who experts...

2014-10-08 Thread Roger Bell_West
On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 11:19:04AM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
IIRC there's a scene in an episode of Dr Who (in Tom Baker's time) where
the Doctor escapes by climbing up through a hatch in the TARDIS ceiling,
calling down a one liner to the Daleks stuck below just before he closes it

1) Am I remembering this correctly?

Apart from the TARDIS and the ceiling bit. It's in _Destiny of the
Daleks_, part two. See http://www.drwhoguide.com/who_5j.htm :

From the shaft hole in the side of the wall, the Doctor pulls up his
scarf as the Daleks come to the room, If you're supposed to be the
superior race of the universe, why don't you try climbing after us.
Bye bye.

Further, my understanding is that in the more recent episodes, the Daleks
have figured out how to overcome their previous inability to cope with
stairs, ladders, etc, uttering levitate before doing exactly that.

First done at the end of part one of _Remembrance of the Daleks_.

R


Re: Dear Dr Who experts...

2014-10-08 Thread Randy J. Ray

IIRC there's a scene in an episode of Dr Who (in Tom Baker's time) where
the Doctor escapes by climbing up through a hatch in the TARDIS ceiling,
calling down a one liner to the Daleks stuck below just before he closes it

1) Am I remembering this correctly?
2) If so, is a clip of this online somewhere, in an easily linkable form? *


Can't help with these... while I started watching during the Tom Baker 
era, I just don't remember TV episodes that far back :-).



Further, my understanding is that in the more recent episodes, the Daleks
have figured out how to overcome their previous inability to cope with
stairs, ladders, etc, uttering levitate before doing exactly that.

3) Is there a representative clip of this online?


Here, I can at least give you a title and number, though I have no links 
to clips. The best episode for this would be the 6th Eccleston episode 
(season 1 of the re-booted series), Dalek. There's a scene where a 
security guard is being pursued by the Dalek into a stairwell, and mocks 
the Dalek for not being able to climb stairs.


Spoiler alert: She dies.

But that's the scene you would want, as I think it's the only time you 
actually see/hear a Dalek say LEVITATE.


Randy
--

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rj...@blackperl.com
twitter.com/rjray
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Re: Dear Dr Who experts...

2014-10-08 Thread Dave Cross

Quoting Nicholas Clark n...@ccl4.org:


Dear Dr Who experts (I'm sure that there are many here)...

IIRC there's a scene in an episode of Dr Who (in Tom Baker's time) where
the Doctor escapes by climbing up through a hatch in the TARDIS ceiling,
calling down a one liner to the Daleks stuck below just before he closes it

1) Am I remembering this correctly?
2) If so, is a clip of this online somewhere, in an easily linkable form? *


This rings a bell. But I'm not 100% convinced that it was a) the  
Daleks or b) in the TARDIS. I'll try to prise the details loose from  
my memory.



Further, my understanding is that in the more recent episodes, the Daleks
have figured out how to overcome their previous inability to cope with
stairs, ladders, etc, uttering levitate before doing exactly that.

3) Is there a representative clip of this online?


The Daleks were often shown flying in 1960s comic strips.

They were first shown levitating in the TV Show in the cliffhanger at  
the end of episode 1 of Remembrance of the Daleks in 1988.


The episode you're probably thinking of is Dalek from 2005. The  
Dalek in that flies quite a lot.


YouTube might have clips. I'm afraid I don't have time to search.

Dave...




Re: Dear Dr Who experts...

2014-10-08 Thread Gareth Harper
It's not just the more recent episodes (depending on your definition of
recent), the Daleks could levitate during my childhood era (80s-90s).

I'm sure I remember an episode from the Sylvester McCoy era where the
Daleks were chasing him and to evade them he simply ran up some stairs and
then the daleks levitated after him.  A quick google shows that the episode
was called remembrance of the daleks unfortunately I don't have the time
to wade through the many youtube clips to try and view it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_of_the_Daleks

In the cliffhanger to the first episode, a Dalek levitates up stairs. The
sequence was intended to put to rest a joke about the inability of the
monsters to do so.

The BBC's website seems to imply it's always been that way.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/episodeguide/remembrancedaleks/detail.shtml

This story reveals for the first time that the Daleks are capable of
ascending stairs. (Although this is the first time that a Dalek is actually
seen to ascend a flight of stairs, there is a scene in season two's The
Chase: Journey into Terror in which such an occurrence is clearly implied;
and season twenty-two's Revelation of the Daleks shows that both the Daleks
and Davros are capable of hovering above the ground.)

According to wikipedia, season 2 was ~1965.  I can't help you with the Tom
Baker question though, it's a tiny bit before my time.

-- 

Gareth


On 8 October 2014 11:19, Nicholas Clark n...@ccl4.org wrote:

 Dear Dr Who experts (I'm sure that there are many here)...

 IIRC there's a scene in an episode of Dr Who (in Tom Baker's time) where
 the Doctor escapes by climbing up through a hatch in the TARDIS ceiling,
 calling down a one liner to the Daleks stuck below just before he closes it

 1) Am I remembering this correctly?
 2) If so, is a clip of this online somewhere, in an easily linkable form? *


 Further, my understanding is that in the more recent episodes, the Daleks
 have figured out how to overcome their previous inability to cope with
 stairs, ladders, etc, uttering levitate before doing exactly that.

 3) Is there a representative clip of this online?

 Nicholas Clark

 * please don't post links to places that would make Auntie upset.



Re: Dear Dr Who experts...

2014-10-08 Thread David Dorward

On 8 Oct 2014, at 11:19, Nicholas Clark wrote:

IIRC there's a scene in an episode of Dr Who (in Tom Baker's time) 
where
the Doctor escapes by climbing up through a hatch in the TARDIS 
ceiling,
calling down a one liner to the Daleks stuck below just before he 
closes it


1) Am I remembering this correctly?


It was a ventilation shaft (I think), in the old Kaled Bunker on Skaro. 
The episode was part of Destiny of the Daleks.


2) If so, is a clip of this online somewhere, in an easily linkable 
form? *


I can't find one.

Further, my understanding is that in the more recent episodes, the 
Daleks

have figured out how to overcome their previous inability to cope with
stairs, ladders, etc, uttering levitate before doing exactly that.


First seen in Remembrance of the Daleks.


3) Is there a representative clip of this online?


Looks like someone pointed a camcorder at a TV so the quality is dodgy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1J3InFpGtQ

--
David Dorward
http://dorward.co.uk/


Re: Dear Dr Who experts...

2014-10-08 Thread Matt Jones
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Nicholas Clark n...@ccl4.org wrote:

 Further, my understanding is that in the more recent episodes, the Daleks
 have figured out how to overcome their previous inability to cope with
 stairs, ladders, etc, uttering levitate before doing exactly that.


IIRC correctly we first saw a Dalek fly in Rememberance of the Daleks:
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Remembrance_of_the_Daleks_(TV_story)

Cheers

-- 
Matt


Re: Dear Dr Who experts...

2014-10-08 Thread David Matthewman
The hatch isn't in the TARDIS ceiling,  but it's from Destiny of the Daleks 
towards the end of episode 2. I don't have a link, but there might be one.

In 'Dalek' (6th story of season 1 of the new series), a Dalek says 'elevate' 
and then does so. Don't know of a linkable clip, but there might be one. They 
routinely hover in later stories.

Note that a Dalek hovers up stairs at the end of episode 1 of Remembrance of 
the Daleks, and rises with the aid of an anti-gravity disc in episode 4 of 
Planet of the Daleks. It's strongly implied that stairs aren't actually a 
problem for them in other stories - e.g. The Chase, where one appears on the 
upper deck of a boat where the only sensible way for it to have got there is 
hovering up stairs. 

Hope this helps. Am at work, so less able to track down clips.

On 8 October 2014 11:19:04 BST, Nicholas Clark n...@ccl4.org wrote:
Dear Dr Who experts (I'm sure that there are many here)...

IIRC there's a scene in an episode of Dr Who (in Tom Baker's time)
where
the Doctor escapes by climbing up through a hatch in the TARDIS
ceiling,
calling down a one liner to the Daleks stuck below just before he
closes it

1) Am I remembering this correctly?
2) If so, is a clip of this online somewhere, in an easily linkable
form? *


Further, my understanding is that in the more recent episodes, the
Daleks
have figured out how to overcome their previous inability to cope with
stairs, ladders, etc, uttering levitate before doing exactly that.

3) Is there a representative clip of this online?

Nicholas Clark

* please don't post links to places that would make Auntie upset.

-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.


Re: Dear Dr Who experts...

2014-10-08 Thread David H. Adler
On Wed, Oct 08, 2014 at 11:19:04AM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
 Dear Dr Who experts (I'm sure that there are many here)...
 
 IIRC there's a scene in an episode of Dr Who (in Tom Baker's time) where
 the Doctor escapes by climbing up through a hatch in the TARDIS ceiling,
 calling down a one liner to the Daleks stuck below just before he closes it
 
 1) Am I remembering this correctly?
Almost. It's not the TARDIS, it's an airshaft on Skaro. It's in Destiny
of the Daleks.

 2) If so, is a clip of this online somewhere, in an easily linkable form? *
 
That, I Don't know.

 Further, my understanding is that in the more recent episodes, the Daleks
 have figured out how to overcome their previous inability to cope with
 stairs, ladders, etc, uttering levitate before doing exactly that.

If memory serves, they could deal with things like stairs in earlier
days, but by Destiny, it had become received wisdom that they couldn't.
Also, far be it from script editor Douglas Adams to pass up a quick
joke.

By Remembrance of the Daleks, they were doing stairs again. It's rather
more impressive since the 2005 series.

 3) Is there a representative clip of this online?

Probably, but maybe not in a way that would please Auntie.

dha

-- 
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We are all the sum of our tears. Too little and the ground is not
fertile, and nothing can grow there. Too many, and the best of us are
washed away.- G'Kar


Re: Dear Dr Who experts...

2014-10-08 Thread Michael Lush
They'd figured out the stairs thing in Rememberence of the Daleks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfoYrCBea74

here is a 5 second version of the story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBkzlcpBJ-I


Re: Dear Dr Who experts...

2014-10-08 Thread Dominic Humphries

Real daleks don't climb stairs, they level the building :)


On 8 October 2014 19:55:34 Gareth Harper spansh+lon...@gmail.com wrote:


It's not just the more recent episodes (depending on your definition of
recent), the Daleks could levitate during my childhood era (80s-90s).

I'm sure I remember an episode from the Sylvester McCoy era where the
Daleks were chasing him and to evade them he simply ran up some stairs and
then the daleks levitated after him.  A quick google shows that the episode
was called remembrance of the daleks unfortunately I don't have the time
to wade through the many youtube clips to try and view it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_of_the_Daleks

In the cliffhanger to the first episode, a Dalek levitates up stairs. The
sequence was intended to put to rest a joke about the inability of the
monsters to do so.

The BBC's website seems to imply it's always been that way.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/episodeguide/remembrancedaleks/detail.shtml

This story reveals for the first time that the Daleks are capable of
ascending stairs. (Although this is the first time that a Dalek is actually
seen to ascend a flight of stairs, there is a scene in season two's The
Chase: Journey into Terror in which such an occurrence is clearly implied;
and season twenty-two's Revelation of the Daleks shows that both the Daleks
and Davros are capable of hovering above the ground.)

According to wikipedia, season 2 was ~1965.  I can't help you with the Tom
Baker question though, it's a tiny bit before my time.

--

Gareth


On 8 October 2014 11:19, Nicholas Clark n...@ccl4.org wrote:

 Dear Dr Who experts (I'm sure that there are many here)...

 IIRC there's a scene in an episode of Dr Who (in Tom Baker's time) where
 the Doctor escapes by climbing up through a hatch in the TARDIS ceiling,
 calling down a one liner to the Daleks stuck below just before he closes it

 1) Am I remembering this correctly?
 2) If so, is a clip of this online somewhere, in an easily linkable form? *


 Further, my understanding is that in the more recent episodes, the Daleks
 have figured out how to overcome their previous inability to cope with
 stairs, ladders, etc, uttering levitate before doing exactly that.

 3) Is there a representative clip of this online?

 Nicholas Clark

 * please don't post links to places that would make Auntie upset.






Re: Dear Dr Who experts...

2014-10-08 Thread Ben Evans
Now there's a T-shirt waiting to happen.

On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Dominic Humphries p...@oneandoneis2.com wrote:
 Real daleks don't climb stairs, they level the building :)



 On 8 October 2014 19:55:34 Gareth Harper spansh+lon...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's not just the more recent episodes (depending on your definition of
 recent), the Daleks could levitate during my childhood era (80s-90s).

 I'm sure I remember an episode from the Sylvester McCoy era where the
 Daleks were chasing him and to evade them he simply ran up some stairs and
 then the daleks levitated after him.  A quick google shows that the
 episode
 was called remembrance of the daleks unfortunately I don't have the time
 to wade through the many youtube clips to try and view it.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_of_the_Daleks

 In the cliffhanger to the first episode, a Dalek levitates up stairs. The
 sequence was intended to put to rest a joke about the inability of the
 monsters to do so.

 The BBC's website seems to imply it's always been that way.


 http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/episodeguide/remembrancedaleks/detail.shtml

 This story reveals for the first time that the Daleks are capable of
 ascending stairs. (Although this is the first time that a Dalek is
 actually
 seen to ascend a flight of stairs, there is a scene in season two's The
 Chase: Journey into Terror in which such an occurrence is clearly implied;
 and season twenty-two's Revelation of the Daleks shows that both the
 Daleks
 and Davros are capable of hovering above the ground.)

 According to wikipedia, season 2 was ~1965.  I can't help you with the Tom
 Baker question though, it's a tiny bit before my time.

 --

 Gareth


 On 8 October 2014 11:19, Nicholas Clark n...@ccl4.org wrote:

  Dear Dr Who experts (I'm sure that there are many here)...
 
  IIRC there's a scene in an episode of Dr Who (in Tom Baker's time) where
  the Doctor escapes by climbing up through a hatch in the TARDIS ceiling,
  calling down a one liner to the Daleks stuck below just before he closes
  it
 
  1) Am I remembering this correctly?
  2) If so, is a clip of this online somewhere, in an easily linkable
  form? *
 
 
  Further, my understanding is that in the more recent episodes, the
  Daleks
  have figured out how to overcome their previous inability to cope with
  stairs, ladders, etc, uttering levitate before doing exactly that.
 
  3) Is there a representative clip of this online?
 
  Nicholas Clark
 
  * please don't post links to places that would make Auntie upset.