Re: IDE for windows?

2003-03-09 Thread Piers Cawley
Luis Campos de Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 - Original Message -
 From: Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:22 AM

 From: Neil Fryer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2/17/03 11:12:01 AM

  Can anyone recommend a decent IDE for Windows?
  Oh yeah, and free.  :-)

 Depends what you want from an IDE. Xemacs always seems to do
 all I want.


   Hi, Dave, hi Neil.

   This game is  multiplayer. =-]

   Emacs is quite nice, but can't debug perl code (as far as I know). 

Yes it can. Assuming you do the sensible thing and use cperl-mode of course. 

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IDE for windows?

2003-02-17 Thread Neil Fryer
Hi All

Can anyone recommend a decent IDE for Windows?
Oh yeah, and free.  :-)

Thanks
Neil Fryer




Re: IDE for windows?

2003-02-17 Thread Dave Cross

From: Neil Fryer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2/17/03 11:12:01 AM

 Hi All

 Can anyone recommend a decent IDE for Windows?
 Oh yeah, and free.  :-)

Depends what you want from an IDE. Xemacs always seems to do
all I want.

Dave...

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Re: IDE for windows?

2003-02-17 Thread Nigel Hamilton
Hi Neil,

I really like UltraEdit, which has a Save As to FTP feature and 
Perl syntax highlighting etc. ... although it's not free it only costs $35 
US.

Nige

 Hi All
 
 Can anyone recommend a decent IDE for Windows?
 Oh yeah, and free.  :-)
 
 Thanks
 Neil Fryer
 

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Re: IDE for windows?

2003-02-17 Thread Luis Campos de Carvalho
- Original Message -
From: Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:22 AM

 From: Neil Fryer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2/17/03 11:12:01 AM

  Can anyone recommend a decent IDE for Windows?
  Oh yeah, and free.  :-)

 Depends what you want from an IDE. Xemacs always seems to do
 all I want.


  Hi, Dave, hi Neil.

  This game is  multiplayer. =-]

  Emacs is quite nice, but can't debug perl code (as far as I know). I need
an IDE that can debug perl, something like the classic Borland's Turbo C
IDE... or, preferrably, I need something that helps Emacs do this. Maybe
Neil wants something like this too. This is a quite interesting thread.

  Any suggestions??

  Regards to all.
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  Luis Campos de Carvalho
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  OCP DBA Oracle  Unix Sys Admin
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RE: IDE for windows?

2003-02-17 Thread Neil Fryer
Hi Luis,

That's it exactly!
I should have been more specific, but thank you.

Regards
Neil Fryer

-Original Message-
From: Luis Campos de Carvalho [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 12:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: IDE for windows?


- Original Message -
From: Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:22 AM

 From: Neil Fryer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2/17/03 11:12:01 AM

  Can anyone recommend a decent IDE for Windows?
  Oh yeah, and free.  :-)

 Depends what you want from an IDE. Xemacs always seems to do
 all I want.


  Hi, Dave, hi Neil.

  This game is  multiplayer. =-]

  Emacs is quite nice, but can't debug perl code (as far as I know). I need
an IDE that can debug perl, something like the classic Borland's Turbo C
IDE... or, preferrably, I need something that helps Emacs do this. Maybe
Neil wants something like this too. This is a quite interesting thread.

  Any suggestions??

  Regards to all.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
  Luis Campos de Carvalho
  Computer Science Student
  OCP DBA Oracle  Unix Sys Admin
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=





Re: IDE for windows?

2003-02-17 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 11:12:01AM -, Neil Fryer wrote:
 Hi All
 
 Can anyone recommend a decent IDE for Windows?
 Oh yeah, and free.  :-)

Try Komodo by Activestate,

http://www.activestate.com/Products/Komodo/ (not just Perl!)

Others:
http://www.solutionsoft.com/perl.htm - Perl Builder
http://www.perl-express.com/ - Perl Express
http://open-perl-ide.sourceforge.net/ - Open Perl IDE

HTH,
Paul

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Re: IDE for windows?

2003-02-17 Thread Robin Berjon
Luis Campos de Carvalho wrote:

  Emacs is quite nice, but can't debug perl code (as far as I know). I need
an IDE that can debug perl, something like the classic Borland's Turbo C
IDE... or, preferrably, I need something that helps Emacs do this. Maybe
Neil wants something like this too. This is a quite interesting thread.

  Any suggestions??


You might want to look at Komodo which gets better every time I look at it. 
Downside: commercial edition $295, non-commercial $30.

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Re: IDE for windows?

2003-02-17 Thread Alex McLintock
Depends what you want. I hear good things about Eclipse... and jedit seems 
to be popular - but whether or not these are IDE's which do what you want

Alex


At 11:12 17/02/03, you wrote:
Hi All

Can anyone recommend a decent IDE for Windows?
Oh yeah, and free.  :-)

Thanks
Neil Fryer


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Re: IDE for windows?

2003-02-17 Thread Ian Brayshaw
On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 11:12, Neil Fryer wrote:

 Can anyone recommend a decent IDE for Windows?
 Oh yeah, and free.  :-)

If it wasn't for the free restriction, I'd suggest Komodo from
ActiveState (http://www.activestate.com/Products/Komodo). Never used it,
but have heard good things about it.


Ian


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Re: IDE for windows?

2003-02-17 Thread Dave Cross

From: Luis Campos de Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2/17/03 12:27:49 PM

- Original Message -
From: Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:22 AM

 From: Neil Fryer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2/17/03 11:12:01 AM

  Can anyone recommend a decent IDE for Windows?
  Oh yeah, and free.  :-)

 Depends what you want from an IDE. Xemacs always seems to
 do all I want.

  Hi, Dave, hi Neil.

  This game is  multiplayer. =-]

 Emacs is quite nice, but can't debug perl code (as far as
 I know). I need an IDE that can debug perl, something like
 the classic Borland's Turbo C IDE... or, preferrably, I 
 need something that helps Emacs do this. Maybe Neil wants 
 something like this too. This is a quite interesting 
 thread.

Well I was talking about Xemacs, not Emacs. There are differences.

When I open a Perl file in Xemacs I get a new Perl menu. This
includes a Debugger menu item. Running this, runs my Perl code
in the Perl debugger within the Xemacs buffer. And the Xemacs
debugging support understands the output from the Perl debugger
and amkes it all nice and interactive.

All this is completely standard. I haven't had to change a thing.

Dave...

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Re: IDE for windows?

2003-02-17 Thread Steve Mynott
On Monday, Feb 17, 2003, at 13:07 Europe/London, Dave Cross wrote:


Well I was talking about Xemacs, not Emacs. There are differences.

When I open a Perl file in Xemacs I get a new Perl menu. This
includes a Debugger menu item. Running this, runs my Perl code
in the Perl debugger within the Xemacs buffer. And the Xemacs
debugging support understands the output from the Perl debugger
and amkes it all nice and interactive.


I would also recommend xemacs (which works very well under windows) but 
should you wish to use emacs in the same way all you have to do is 
change the default perl mode to cperl by using

(add-hook 'perl-mode-hook
  '(lambda () (cperl-mode)))

in your .emacs which will make things a *lot* easier.  Basically xemacs 
has more modern defaults than emacs.

Both emacs and xemacs (not the same program as emacs with X!) integrate 
very well with other GNU tools like gcc etc

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Re: IDE for windows?

2003-02-17 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Alex McLintock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Depends what you want. I hear good things about Eclipse... and jedit seems 
 to be popular - but whether or not these are IDE's which do what you want
 

the nicest thing about Eclipse in my somewhat skewed view of the world
is the fact it had a todo list built in at the bottom of the ide (i
think or at least i am reliably informed that you can do something
similar in MS VS). however last time i looked there was no Perl
plugins that would do syntax highlighting or indenting (this may have
changed).

it is also written in Java which means that it should run anywhere[1].

Greg

[1] sometimes i just crack myself up ;-)

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