Oracle client software

2002-05-22 Thread Paul Makepeace

On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 04:27:38PM +0100, Chris Ball wrote:
 eleven CD Oracle 8i installation set, and told me to have fun with the
 client libraries.

Installing 8i client software on debian is a doddle. Just fire up the
main install on the main CD and select install client software. The
Java even works(!) so you can happily run the full UI management
beasties too, if you so desire.

There is some stuff you may need to diddle with, but it's out there on
the net and easily findable  applies to red hat anyway (missing
apostrophes in install scripts  other wee horrors). I can help offline
if you get stuck. 8.1.5 is quite a bit messier than later versions,
IIRC.

You will without doubt waste more time fscking with redhat than it will
cost you installing it with debian. Not because redhat sucks (*cough*)
but your invested time in debian won't be being used, IMO.

If your lazy admin ever tries that kind of smart-ass bullshit again,
point out that Oracle don't support Red Hat any more. (Did someone say
fscked gcc library snapshots in production releases?) OK, they don't
support Debian either :-)

Paul

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Re: Oracle client software

2002-05-22 Thread Nicholas Clark

On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 08:37:17AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote:
 If your lazy admin ever tries that kind of smart-ass bullshit again,
 point out that Oracle don't support Red Hat any more. (Did someone say
 fscked gcc library snapshots in production releases?) OK, they don't
 support Debian either :-)

Have they used rantgcc 2.96/rant as an excuse to stop all linux support?
Or are Oracle just giving Red Hat what it deserved for being so inept as to
include a developer snapshot gcc in a stable release, and not just that,
but one that is C++ ABI incompatible with 2.9.5, and incompatible with 3.0.
So (I infer from the above) Red Hat are going to have to stick with the stupid
thing until 8.0 ?

Nicholas Clark
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Re: Oracle client software

2002-05-22 Thread Roger Burton West

On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 08:08:16PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 08:37:17AM -0700, Paul Makepeace wrote:
 If your lazy admin ever tries that kind of smart-ass bullshit again,
 point out that Oracle don't support Red Hat any more. (Did someone say
 fscked gcc library snapshots in production releases?) OK, they don't
 support Debian either :-)

Have they used rantgcc 2.96/rant as an excuse to stop all linux support?

Support? From Oracle? For something other than Windows?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Yes, you could pay Oracle for support for RedHat, and you couldn't for
Debian. This made no difference to the quality of the support IME.

Roger




Re: Oracle client software

2002-05-22 Thread Nicholas Clark

On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 08:17:34PM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote:

 Support? From Oracle? For something other than Windows?
 Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
 
 Yes, you could pay Oracle for support for RedHat, and you couldn't for
 Debian. This made no difference to the quality of the support IME.

What about support on Solaris?

Nicholas Clark




Re: Oracle client software

2002-05-22 Thread Roger Burton West

On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 08:30:14PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 08:17:34PM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote:
 Yes, you could pay Oracle for support for RedHat, and you couldn't for
 Debian. This made no difference to the quality of the support IME.
What about support on Solaris?

I haven't tried it, but have no reason to suppose it's any better than
their Linux support was. Certainly, when I've spoken with them, their
attitude has been Oh, not Windows? Too bad.

Roger




Re: Oracle client software

2002-05-22 Thread Nic Gibson

On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 08:37:36PM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote:
 On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 08:30:14PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:
 On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 08:17:34PM +0100, Roger Burton West wrote:
  Yes, you could pay Oracle for support for RedHat, and you couldn't for
  Debian. This made no difference to the quality of the support IME.
 What about support on Solaris?
 
 I haven't tried it, but have no reason to suppose it's any better than
 their Linux support was. Certainly, when I've spoken with them, their
 attitude has been Oh, not Windows? Too bad.

My experience has been that the support from Oracle for Solaris is very
good. If it were a less horrible product, I'd be happy about that.

nic
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