Re: Self-test

2001-10-26 Thread Paul Johnson

On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 09:17:04AM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> * Jon Nangle ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > "Sue" == Sue Spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > Sue> Heh. "Must possess strong CVS". Sounds like a white collar ditch
> > Sue> digging job to me (albeit well-paid).
> > 
> > Yeah, I must admit my first thought was "that ain't no perl job". You never
> > know though, there might just be some very out-of-touch/gullible HR bod out
> > there in banking-land...
> 
> the clues are in the ad, they want permanent, high salary, CVS skills
> - they are looking for someone who for the rest of their life will
> code review all the Perl code that their development staff produce,
> and manage the builds and deploys. at least thats my guess.

So did anyone apply for / get this job, or get any more information
about it?

Just curious 

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Re: Self-test

2001-10-18 Thread anathema

David H. Adler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > If God didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out
>> > of Meat.  - Phillip, Goats, 20sep99
>> "If the Juju had meant us not to eat people
>>  He wouldn't have made us of meat"
>> (from a Flanders & Swann song, 1950s)
>Funny.  Jon and Phillip never struck me as F&S fans... *shrug*

Everyone is a F&S fan.

Have some madeira, m'dear.
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Re: Self-test

2001-10-18 Thread Alex Page

On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 02:04:46PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote:

> > (from a Flanders & Swann song, 1950s)

> Funny.  Jon and Phillip never struck me as F&S fans... *shrug*

Maybe they picked it up from Diabolo... I can imagine everyone's
favorite satanic chicken liking them.

Alex
-- 
"Four pints of milk, a turkey baster and some plastic
 tubing, that's all you need."
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Re: Self-test

2001-10-18 Thread David H. Adler

On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 06:04:45PM +0100, Robin Houston wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 12:53:55PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote:
> > If God didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out
> > of Meat.  - Phillip, Goats, 20sep99
> 
> "If the Juju had meant us not to eat people
>  He wouldn't have made us of meat"
> 
> (from a Flanders & Swann song, 1950s)

Funny.  Jon and Phillip never struck me as F&S fans... *shrug*

dha
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place.  - Adrian Tyvand




Re: Self-test

2001-10-18 Thread Robin Houston

On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 12:53:55PM -0400, David H. Adler wrote:
> If God didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out
> of Meat.  - Phillip, Goats, 20sep99

"If the Juju had meant us not to eat people
 He wouldn't have made us of meat"

(from a Flanders & Swann song, 1950s)

 .robin.




Re: Self-test

2001-10-18 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 07:39:36PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, David Cantrell wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 05:21:59PM +0100, Nick Cleaton wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 04:01:58PM +, Greg Cope wrote:
> > > > There was only one game, Elite.
> > > Llamatron.
> >
> > The best game ever is the one I haven't written yet.
> >
> 
> I did write one for the Amiga which I never named but had a banner
> 'HUMILIATE YUPPIES' and the basic aim was to control a seagull to shit in
> the open roof of a number of 'popular at the time' Yuppie cars: Porsches,
> VW Golfs etc - I have no idea what happened to the code though 

Back in the olden days, when I was first learning to program on
whatever-the-hell system they had a CUNY (City Univ. of New York), there
was a text game on there called "Tenement".  The idea was, you were a
tourist in NYC, trapped at the top of a tenement and you had to make
your way out, avoiding rats, drug dealers, etc.

I remember only two things about it well:

1) You had the option "Commit Arson", which, while it caused you to
actually lose the game, was somehow quite satisfying.

2) You also had an option to go out on the fire escape.  However, all
this would accomplish was that the computer would respond "Oh, too bad!
Lamont the Sniper has taken your face off."

dha, misses those options...

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If God didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out
of Meat.  - Phillip, Goats, 20sep99




Re: Self-test

2001-10-18 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On 17 Oct 2001, Steve Mynott wrote:
>
>does anyone also remember 380Zs?
>

Big black buggers, with 64K of RAM running CP/M ?  Yeah.

Made me a CP/M convert the year after the XT came out :)

/J\





Re: Self-test

2001-10-18 Thread David H. Adler

On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 02:57:53PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote:
> You can never have too many obsolete puters!

Damn straight!

dha, has a Digital MV2000 mini sitting around here somewhere...

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addict.   - Greg McCarroll




Re: Self-test

2001-10-18 Thread Redvers Davies

> (As an aside has anyone actually done this is real life?  Does it work?)

Yes and yes.  I have DPA'd the police.




Re: Self-test

2001-10-18 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Mark Fowler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> 
> > In my bookmarks I keep a set of folders for all the people I know,
> > linking in them to pieces of information about that person
> 
> As is my right under the 1984 data protection act I demand a copy of all
> information that you have pertaining to me in electronic form.
> 

Gladly, of course I can charge up to £10 for processing this request
under the same act.

However, the 1984 DPA has been repealed and replaced by the 1998
DPA. Which I think came into affect in 2000 and I have no idea how
much I can now charge (I think the DoH can charge up to £50).

Greg


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Re: Self-test

2001-10-18 Thread Nick Cleaton

On Thu, Oct 18, 2001 at 08:57:27AM +0100, Mark Fowler wrote:
> 
> As is my right under the 1984 data protection act I demand a copy of all
> information that you have pertaining to me in electronic form.

As I understand it, Greg is allowed to charge a reasonable admin
fee for this.  About 4 pints should do it.

Nick

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Re: Self-test

2001-10-18 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Greg Cope wrote:
> Dave Cross wrote:
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Candidates who learned how to program on their Commadore
> > > 64, Apple, etc. when they were 12 years old are likely to
> > > be what we are looking for.
> >
> >
>
> Rules me out then, what about BBC B's - C64's are for wimps!
>

And unfortunately I would have been hacking on machine code for a
bread-boarded SC/MP machine around that age ... well I would have been if
I could have persuaded my parents to get the bits for me.

/J\





Re: Self-test

2001-10-18 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On 17 Oct 2001, Steve Mynott wrote:
>   I wrote my first computer
> program on a Commodore PET (the original one with the calc-type
> keyboard).
>

Same here - I wrote a theatre booking system that used some awful metal
bashing pokery straight into the display memory trick to show the seats
: it saved the data on the same data on the same cassette tape as the
program and there was some equally astonishing hack employed to get the
tape to appear to rewind where the data was and not overwrite the program.
I can't actually recall if it attempted to print anything but it would have
been worrying if it had as the only available printer was (even for ~ 1979)
a venerable teletype with a punched tape reader/writer on it - I think I
still might have the program listing on punched tape somewhere in the bottom
of a box at my parents house, I had to keep it as even then it felt retro.


/J\





Re: Self-test

2001-10-18 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, David Cantrell wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 05:21:59PM +0100, Nick Cleaton wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 04:01:58PM +, Greg Cope wrote:
> > > There was only one game, Elite.
> > Llamatron.
>
> The best game ever is the one I haven't written yet.
>

I did write one for the Amiga which I never named but had a banner
'HUMILIATE YUPPIES' and the basic aim was to control a seagull to shit in
the open roof of a number of 'popular at the time' Yuppie cars: Porsches,
VW Golfs etc - I have no idea what happened to the code though 

/J\





Re: Self-test

2001-10-18 Thread Mark Fowler

On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:

> In my bookmarks I keep a set of folders for all the people I know,
> linking in them to pieces of information about that person

As is my right under the 1984 data protection act I demand a copy of all
information that you have pertaining to me in electronic form.

;-)

(As an aside has anyone actually done this is real life?  Does it work?)

Mark.

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Re: Self-test

2001-10-18 Thread Redvers Davies

> The 3-voice sound chip was coverted by us BBC types - and the C64 colour
> was good, but hey, bloatware, it had 64k compared to a B's 32 

I dunno, us hard core speccy programmers can to wiggle the speaker
directly to get more than one note out of it.  The only problem is
that if you didn't XOR with the correct mask the border would light
up like a stripey christmas tree[0].

[0] Hence the reason[1] for the border effects during loading.
[1] The hardware port for the microphone, speaker and colour of
the border were the same port - just different bits.  When
you shifted the bits you got the funky border.