Re: dns woes

2003-06-15 Thread Chris Andrews
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 04:15:08PM +0100, Shevek wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Jun 2003, Simon Wistow wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 09:12:22AM +0100, Alex Hudson said:
> > > Care to elaborate? I'm currently looking at DNS hosting, and Joker are on
> > > the list at the moment :/
> > 
> > They won't let you use arbitary nameservers, rejecting requests from the 
> > web form with the message 
> > 
> > "ERROR[-310] line [15] [ns1-handle:[69541] not found in tld registry]"
> 
> This is normal. You need to register the hostname and IP of all
> nameservers explicitly with the registry. I don't know how Joker deal with
> this, I only use NSI.

There are two Joker systems, one based on CORENIC, and one, um,
not. If you want to delegate an 'old Joker' name to a new nameserver,
you need to know its 'COHO handle'. If you don't know it, just create
another...

If it's a new-ish name, then I believe that they use the Network
Solutions nameserver list, so you'd need to add your new nameserver
there.


Chris.



Re: dns woes

2003-06-15 Thread Shevek
On Sun, 15 Jun 2003, Simon Wistow wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 09:12:22AM +0100, Alex Hudson said:
> > Care to elaborate? I'm currently looking at DNS hosting, and Joker are on
> > the list at the moment :/
> 
> They won't let you use arbitary nameservers, rejecting requests from the 
> web form with the message 
> 
> "ERROR[-310] line [15] [ns1-handle:[69541] not found in tld registry]"

This is normal. You need to register the hostname and IP of all
nameservers explicitly with the registry. I don't know how Joker deal with
this, I only use NSI.

S.

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Re: dns woes

2003-06-15 Thread Alex Hudson
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 09:12:22AM +0100, Alex Hudson wrote:

Replying to myself, bad form I realise...

but:

$ host -t ns thegestalt.org
thegestalt.org  NS  theproject.fierypit.org
thegestalt.org  NS  ns0.astray.com
 !!! thegestalt.org NS host ns0.astray.com is not canonical
thegestalt.org  NS  ns1.mailbox.co.uk

I guess it's complaining because ns0 is a CNAME, not an A record - you're
not supposed to set NS records pointing at CNAMEs, it's 'wrong'. I should
have noticed that before..

Cheers,

Alex.




Re: dns woes

2003-06-15 Thread Simon Wistow
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 09:12:22AM +0100, Alex Hudson said:
> Care to elaborate? I'm currently looking at DNS hosting, and Joker are on
> the list at the moment :/

They won't let you use arbitary nameservers, rejecting requests from the 
web form with the message 

"ERROR[-310] line [15] [ns1-handle:[69541] not found in tld registry]"

which can lead to chicken and egg problems and slow turnaround times.

Now, to be honest, I can see why they're doing it but the lack of "I 
don't care - it's an emergency" option and/or the ability to get in 
contact with them has kind of soured 3 years of good experiences.

Simon






Re: dns woes

2003-06-15 Thread Alex Hudson
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 09:00:51AM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote:
> Except that my registrar (Joker.com who've never let me down before)
> won't let me use ns0.geekflat.org for a variety of reasons. Mailing them
> three times has elicted no response. Phoning them (in Dusseldorf) gets a 
> recorded message saying "use the web form" and then hangs up on you.

Care to elaborate? I'm currently looking at DNS hosting, and Joker are on
the list at the moment :/

> If I dig for ns0.astray.com I get this rather confusing result ...
> 
> ns0.astray.com. 1d14h52m15s IN A  195.82.114.160
> ns0.astray.com. 2h52m15s IN CNAME  astray.com.
> astray.com. 5h27m IN A  195.82.114.48

I don't get that first response - just the CNAME and the additional. Are 
you sure you don't have some local/split DNS that is messing up your
results? I can send you some dig/host output from here if you like, it's
probably worth digging against a specific DNS server though.

Also, the SOA for astray.com doesn't list ns0.astray.com as a primary or
secondary from where I'm looking, and there is no NS record for ns0 in 
astray.com either - just ns[1-5]. 

Cheers,

Alex.




Re: dns woes

2003-06-15 Thread Simon Wistow
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 09:00:51AM +0100, Simon Wistow said:
> snip <

Doh I found at least *part* of the problem. I suspect the rest is down 
to propogation and slow secondaries.

Simon