Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Test of mailing list performance

[Helmut Lichtenberg]

Hi James,

James McQuillan schrieb am 20.09.2012 20:05:
> I'm sending this message at 2:05PM EDT (18:05GMT).

here is the header of the received mail. Seems there are some delays at google
and sourceforge.

Regards
Helmut

> From ltsp-discuss-boun...@lists.sourceforge.net Thu Sep 20 20:41:10 2012
> Return-Path: 
> Received: from dcs.tzv.fal.de ([unix socket])
>by dcs (Cyrus v2.2.13-Debian-2.2.13-14+lenny6) with LMTPA;
>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:41:10 +0200
> X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2
> Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
>   by dcs.tzv.fal.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11D229F5224F
>   for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:41:09 +0200 (CEST)
> X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at tzv.fal.de
> Received: from dcs.tzv.fal.de ([127.0.0.1])
>   by localhost (dcs.tzv.fal.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
>   with ESMTP id nWBIU2fvXrnU for ;
>   Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:41:08 +0200 (CEST)
> X-policyd-weight: using cached result; rate:hard: -8.5
> Received: from lists.sourceforge.net (lists.sourceforge.net [216.34.181.88])
>   (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits))
>   (No client certificate requested)
>   by dcs.tzv.fal.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS
>   for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:41:08 +0200 (CEST)
> Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=sfs-ml-3.b.ch3.sourceforge.com)
>   by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76)
>   (envelope-from )
>   id 1TElck-0002s2-AA; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 18:37:18 +
> Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192]
>   helo=mx.sourceforge.net)
>   by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76)
>   (envelope-from ) id 1TElci-0002rt-LI
>   for ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 18:37:16 +
> Received-SPF: neutral (sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: 209.85.220.175 is
>   neither permitted nor denied by domain of mcquil.com)
>   client-ip=209.85.220.175; envelope-from=j...@mcquil.com;
>   helo=mail-vc0-f175.google.com; 
> Received: from mail-vc0-f175.google.com ([209.85.220.175])
>   by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128)
>   (Exim 4.76) id 1TElch-0006cx-KR
>   for ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 18:37:16 +
> Received: by vcqp1 with SMTP id p1so3248922vcq.34
>   for ;
>   Thu, 20 Sep 2012 11:37:02 -0700 (PDT)
> X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
>   d=google.com; s=20120113;
>   h=mime-version:sender:x-originating-ip:date:x-google-sender-auth
>   :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state;
>   bh=ZckFA2FVjHHSNXcb0YpfrEs7wgkuXMmNphcnI+T0hzs=;
>   b=eWEw29y7bel1NPHx+Lf4Nuy4Mu3LjZPjMcjsFR4gkjzm4DSMfly0PNAVsmftDK8NNF
>   CjBFuTfgqgvl4JjyLDzkhmO4yXReNNt5yeu9UiX69ruAG0K15ZhVdVKerMAN5j4xVGe+
>   M1CnkWzv/UqyOmnkQAYN9p14MX90Mct7qHEj1PePdUtl6vixzPUgUPU7pIUmOi57F7km
>   67/xc05INwewNTsJ1bp/5Yt6M2kqgLEfc3MraDBXDnIJ7Uz9Jwg12U/XD8VWEJ7Ok5jT
>   Fh371Z6avZy5/gUx+FLpuQwKr4wk7+TBYCpUzw0Bm1P8iIaMX1Ogo9gxUvfj9eLNBtMd
>   fOaw==
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Received: by 10.220.152.67 with SMTP id f3mr1521730vcw.19.1348164344252; Thu,
>   20 Sep 2012 11:05:44 -0700 (PDT)
> Received: by 10.220.1.133 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 11:05:44 -0700 (PDT)
> X-Originating-IP: [70.91.230.209]
> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 14:05:44 -0400
> X-Google-Sender-Auth: PWpuQ1xG-Ofi_HnGF7e1YedpG8A
> Message-ID: 
> 
> From: James McQuillan 
> To: ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net
> X-Gm-Message-State: 
> ALoCoQkzQvXO9jqwwSUJ5Hzv8mss3co/0Yi1i9GRey+KZwywUsAOEq3ZOg/PMWZxMvUh7yQO9trw
> X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/)
> X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net.
>   See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details.
>   0.7 SPF_NEUTRAL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (neutral)
>   1.0 HTML_MESSAGE   BODY: HTML included in message
>   -1.1 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list
> X-Headers-End: 1TElch-0006cx-KR
> Subject: [Ltsp-discuss] Test of mailing list performance
> X-BeenThere: ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net
> X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9
> Precedence: list
> Reply-To: ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net
> List-Id: 
> List-Unsubscribe: 
> , 
>   
> List-Archive: 
> 
> List-Post: 
> List-Help: 
> List-Subscribe: ,
>   
> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===5921624655579105087=="
> Errors-To: ltsp-discuss-boun...@lists.sourceforge.net
> Status: RO
> Content-Length: 2556
> Lines: 70

-- 

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Test of mailing list performance

[Vagrant Cascadian]

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 02:05:44PM -0400, James McQuillan wrote:
> We're evaluating alternatives for the mailing list server.

Two things I've noticed on this general topic:

* Mailman doesn't have a meaningful approach to user or administrator 
  management by default.

* Various google mailing lists often fail to deliver to non google mail 
  addresses.

Freegeek uses Mailman, but we're exploring switching to Sympa because it has 
reasonable user and admin management interfaces.
 
> One thing we've been hearing is that the current list server is slow at 
> sending
> out messages.
> 
> I'm sending this message at 2:05PM EDT (18:05GMT).

 Received Thu, 20 Sep 2012 11:38:46 -0700 (PDT) / 18:38 (UTC)

live well,
  vagrant

--
Everyone hates slow websites. So do we.
Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics
Download AppDynamics Lite for free today:
http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;258768047;13503038;j?
http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html
_
Ltsp-discuss mailing list.   To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto:
  https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss
For additional LTSP help,   try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Test of mailing list performance

[rob]

Thu, 20 Sep 2012 14:05:44 -0400

Boston Ma area.

On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, James McQuillan wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> We're evaluating alternatives for the mailing list server.
>
> One thing we've been hearing is that the current list server is slow at
> sending out messages.
>
> I'm sending this message at 2:05PM EDT (18:05GMT).
>
> If some of you would look at what time you received this message and
> respond with the time (and timezone) that you received it, then we can get
> a sense for how fast/slow this mail server is.
>
> This is hardly a scientific way to do this.  But it'll give us a general
> idea.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim McQuillan
> j...@ltsp.org
>

--
Everyone hates slow websites. So do we.
Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics
Download AppDynamics Lite for free today:
http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;258768047;13503038;j?
http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html
_
Ltsp-discuss mailing list.   To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto:
  https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss
For additional LTSP help,   try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Test of mailing list performance

[Dr. Sichendra Bista]

Hi Jim:

Fyi, I received 20:46 CEST (2hrs plus GMT).

/sb
-- 
Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

John Hupp  wrote:

Received 2:39 EDT

On 9/20/2012 2:05 PM, James McQuillan wrote:

Hello all, 


We're evaluating alternatives for the mailing list server.


One thing we've been hearing is that the current list server is slow at sending 
out messages.


I'm sending this message at 2:05PM EDT (18:05GMT).


If some of you would look at what time you received this message and respond 
with the time (and timezone) that you received it, then we can get a sense for 
how fast/slow this mail server is.


This is hardly a scientific way to do this.  But it'll give us a general idea.


Thanks,

Jim McQuillan

j...@ltsp.org



-- 
Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with 
AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: 
http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;258768047;13503038;j? 
http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html 

_ 
Ltsp-discuss mailing list. To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto: 
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss For additional LTSP 
help, try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net 


--
Everyone hates slow websites. So do we.
Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics
Download AppDynamics Lite for free today:
http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;258768047;13503038;j?
http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html_
Ltsp-discuss mailing list.   To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto:
  https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss
For additional LTSP help,   try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Test of mailing list performance

[Rob Owens]

2:39 PM EDT

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 02:05:44PM -0400, James McQuillan wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> We're evaluating alternatives for the mailing list server.
> 
> One thing we've been hearing is that the current list server is slow at
> sending out messages.
> 
> I'm sending this message at 2:05PM EDT (18:05GMT).
> 
> If some of you would look at what time you received this message and
> respond with the time (and timezone) that you received it, then we can get
> a sense for how fast/slow this mail server is.
> 
> This is hardly a scientific way to do this.  But it'll give us a general
> idea.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jim McQuillan
> j...@ltsp.org

> --
> Everyone hates slow websites. So do we.
> Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics
> Download AppDynamics Lite for free today:
> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;258768047;13503038;j?
> http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html

> _
> Ltsp-discuss mailing list.   To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto:
>   https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss
> For additional LTSP help,   try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net


--
Everyone hates slow websites. So do we.
Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics
Download AppDynamics Lite for free today:
http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;258768047;13503038;j?
http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html
_
Ltsp-discuss mailing list.   To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto:
  https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss
For additional LTSP help,   try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Test of mailing list performance

[Trevor Jenkins]

On 20 Sep 2012, at 19:05, James McQuillan  wrote:

> If some of you would look at what time you received this message and respond 
> with the time (and timezone) that you received it, then we can get a sense 
> for how fast/slow this mail server is.

Here's the Received: header lines from my copy

Received: from lamp-post.private ([127.0.0.1])
by localhost (lamp-post.private [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
with ESMTP id jnPayFCiO+j7 for ;
Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:38:06 +0100 (BST)
Received: from lists.sourceforge.net (lists.sourceforge.net [216.34.181.88])
by lamp-post.private (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C4CDC0E0A6
for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:38:05 +0100 
(BST)
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=sfs-ml-3.b.ch3.sourceforge.com)
by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76)
(envelope-from )
id 1TElck-0002s2-8u; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 18:37:18 +
Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192]
helo=mx.sourceforge.net)
by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76)
(envelope-from ) id 1TElci-0002rt-LI
for ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 18:37:16 +
Received-SPF: neutral (sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: 209.85.220.175 is
neither permitted nor denied by domain of mcquil.com)
client-ip=209.85.220.175; envelope-from=j...@mcquil.com;
helo=mail-vc0-f175.google.com; 
Received: from mail-vc0-f175.google.com ([209.85.220.175])
by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128)
(Exim 4.76) id 1TElch-0006cx-KR
for ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 18:37:16 +
Received: by vcqp1 with SMTP id p1so3248922vcq.34
for ;
Thu, 20 Sep 2012 11:37:02 -0700 (PDT)

Seem to be several different sf.net mail servers involved there; too many for 
my liking.

I'll leave you to do the time-zone conversions yourself. They always do my head 
in. 

Regards, Trevor.

<>< Re: deemed!

--
Everyone hates slow websites. So do we.
Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics
Download AppDynamics Lite for free today:
http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;258768047;13503038;j?
http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html_
Ltsp-discuss mailing list.   To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto:
  https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss
For additional LTSP help,   try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Test of mailing list performance

[Yorvyk]

On 20/09/12 19:05, James McQuillan wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> We're evaluating alternatives for the mailing list server.
>
> One thing we've been hearing is that the current list server is slow at
> sending out messages.
>
> I'm sending this message at 2:05PM EDT (18:05GMT).
>
> If some of you would look at what time you received this message and
> respond with the time (and timezone) that you received it, then we can
> get a sense for how fast/slow this mail server is.
>
> This is hardly a scientific way to do this.  But it'll give us a general
> idea.

19:37 BST 18:37 UTC


--
Everyone hates slow websites. So do we.
Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics
Download AppDynamics Lite for free today:
http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;258768047;13503038;j?
http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html
_
Ltsp-discuss mailing list.   To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto:
  https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss
For additional LTSP help,   try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Test of mailing list performance

[Joseph Bishay]

Arrived 2:04 pm EST

Joseph

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 2:05 PM, James McQuillan  wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> We're evaluating alternatives for the mailing list server.
>
> One thing we've been hearing is that the current list server is slow at
> sending out messages.
>
> I'm sending this message at 2:05PM EDT (18:05GMT).
>
> If some of you would look at what time you received this message and respond
> with the time (and timezone) that you received it, then we can get a sense
> for how fast/slow this mail server is.
>
> This is hardly a scientific way to do this.  But it'll give us a general
> idea.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim McQuillan
> j...@ltsp.org
>
> --
> Everyone hates slow websites. So do we.
> Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics
> Download AppDynamics Lite for free today:
> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;258768047;13503038;j?
> http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html
> _
> Ltsp-discuss mailing list.   To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto:
>   https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss
> For additional LTSP help,   try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
>

--
Everyone hates slow websites. So do we.
Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics
Download AppDynamics Lite for free today:
http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;258768047;13503038;j?
http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html
_
Ltsp-discuss mailing list.   To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto:
  https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss
For additional LTSP help,   try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Test of mailing list performance

[John Hupp]

Received 2:39 EDT

On 9/20/2012 2:05 PM, James McQuillan wrote:

Hello all,

We're evaluating alternatives for the mailing list server.

One thing we've been hearing is that the current list server is slow 
at sending out messages.


I'm sending this message at 2:05PM EDT (18:05GMT).

If some of you would look at what time you received this message and 
respond with the time (and timezone) that you received it, then we can 
get a sense for how fast/slow this mail server is.


This is hardly a scientific way to do this.  But it'll give us a 
general idea.


Thanks,
Jim McQuillan
j...@ltsp.org


--
Everyone hates slow websites. So do we.
Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics
Download AppDynamics Lite for free today:
http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;258768047;13503038;j?
http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html


_
Ltsp-discuss mailing list.   To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto:
   https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss
For additional LTSP help,   try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net


--
Everyone hates slow websites. So do we.
Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics
Download AppDynamics Lite for free today:
http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;258768047;13503038;j?
http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html_
Ltsp-discuss mailing list.   To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto:
  https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss
For additional LTSP help,   try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Test of mailing list performance

[Alkis Georgopoulos]

18:43 UTC :)

--
Everyone hates slow websites. So do we.
Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics
Download AppDynamics Lite for free today:
http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;258768047;13503038;j?
http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html
_
Ltsp-discuss mailing list.   To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto:
  https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss
For additional LTSP help,   try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net

Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Test of mailing list performance

[David Burgess]

12:39PM MDT (1839 GMT)

db

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:05 PM, James McQuillan  wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> We're evaluating alternatives for the mailing list server.
>
> One thing we've been hearing is that the current list server is slow at
> sending out messages.
>
> I'm sending this message at 2:05PM EDT (18:05GMT).
>
> If some of you would look at what time you received this message and respond
> with the time (and timezone) that you received it, then we can get a sense
> for how fast/slow this mail server is.
>
> This is hardly a scientific way to do this.  But it'll give us a general
> idea.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim McQuillan
> j...@ltsp.org
>
> --
> Everyone hates slow websites. So do we.
> Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics
> Download AppDynamics Lite for free today:
> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;258768047;13503038;j?
> http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html
> _
> Ltsp-discuss mailing list.   To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto:
>   https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss
> For additional LTSP help,   try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net
>

--
Everyone hates slow websites. So do we.
Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics
Download AppDynamics Lite for free today:
http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;258768047;13503038;j?
http://info.appdynamics.com/FreeJavaPerformanceDownload.html
_
Ltsp-discuss mailing list.   To un-subscribe, or change prefs, goto:
  https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss
For additional LTSP help,   try #ltsp channel on irc.freenode.net