[luau] Gov Tech Magazine Article

2003-05-01 Thread John Pescador
Article is on Open Source in Government.  The State of
Hawaii's eGov Team member Todd Ogasawara is quoted in
the article.

link to article
http://www.govtech.net/magazine/story.phtml?id=48258

aloha
john

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Re: [luau] Gov Tech Magazine Article

2003-05-01 Thread Dennis T. Ching
I found this article highly informative, including the right-hand sidebar
and its collections of links.

The key issue for software developers was touched in the following excerpt:

A lot of open source usage is happening at the federal level and at the
international level, said the Center of Open Source  Government's Stanco,
adding that the Department of Defense is the clear open source leader at the
federal level.

This gives open source a certain credibility, he said. The perception
problem was, 'How can this possibly work?' 'How can this be better than
proprietary?' 'Where does the support come from?' 'How do these people get
paid?'

There were a lot of misconceptions and skepticism about how this all
works, he continued. Nobody really knows how it works yet, but people are
getting much more comfortable that it is working. Having the military
endorse open source in a big way says open source is something real. I'm a
little surprised states are still not completely on board.

It was interesting that nobody really knows how it works yet, but it is
working...

--Dennis

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 Article is on Open Source in Government.  The State of
 Hawaii's eGov Team member Todd Ogasawara is quoted in
 the article.

 link to article
 http://www.govtech.net/magazine/story.phtml?id=48258

 aloha
 john

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Re: [luau] Gov Tech Magazine Article

2003-05-01 Thread Robert Green
--- Dennis T. Ching [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It was interesting that nobody really knows how it works yet, but
 it is
 working...
 
 --Dennis

I think its is a case of the people at the ground level have a good
grasp on it, and the upper management just taking the techies' word
that it is a Good Thing [TM] . since they rarely interview the
people doing the real work in DoD, the impression is that *nobody*
knows how it works, when its maingly the upper ecehlon that is in the
dark  or at least that is my guess based on my time in the
service

Aloha,

Rob


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[luau] A good network filesystem

2003-05-01 Thread MonMotha

I have a dillemma here that I'd really like to resolve.

Here's the situation:  I have my desktop and a server, both running Linux.  The 
server speaks SMB via Samba to my Windows machines and NFS to my other UNIX-like 
boxen.


When I'm on a windows machine, I access my home directory off the server using 
Samba, but when I'm on my local desktop, I use my local filesystem.  NFS 
mounting my homedir on my desktop from the fileserver is not feasable due to 
bandwidth concerns (only 100Mbit ethernet connects the two of us) and the fact 
that my PC is slightly mobile (I like to keep my data with me if I go to the 
trouble of moving my desktop).


What I'd like is a way to have my hoem directories be the same on both my Linux 
desktop and my server.  That way, I can access my home directories from all my 
other systems off the server as normal, even if my Linux desktop is not on 
(which is occassional).  Basically, I need a filesystem that will keep a local 
copy of the entire directory on both my desktop and my Linux server, while 
replicating immediately all changes made to it.


I'd really rather not run Samba on my desktop, and that would not really 
accomplish what I desire anyway as I want my network, including my hoemdir, to 
continue to function as normal even if my Linux desktop machine is not available.


I've thought of kludging off something like rsyncing between the two every 
minute or so, but that's a) a horrible, horrible kludge requiring something to 
be run every minute to sync up, and b) only provides per-minute consistency with 
considerable overhead.  I'd like for local I/O to occur as fast as possible 
(limited only by local resources such as HDD) with full caching while updates to 
the filesystem proceed immediately as fast as the network can handle.


Does such a thing exist in the Linux world?  Or for that matter, does such a 
thing exist?


--MonMotha



Re: [luau] A good network filesystem

2003-05-01 Thread Warren Togami
Look at OpenAFS or Intermezzo.  I read through the documentation of one
of them before, and it appeared that one of them was effective not only
cross platform but also in caching to reduce network utilization.

I could be wrong though...

Warren
 



[luau] RE:open source article

2003-05-01 Thread Robin



Okay, I'm pretty new at this and I am impressed at 
what open source can do for the public schools. Then why is the state 
pushing MS Office? 
Just on Tuesday I was a visitor at UH Engineering 
college, they too have so much to offer the state, I'm saying why not use the 
college to develop open source programs, other equiptment (servers, 
computers)for the state and keep the money and the knowledge base in the 
state. They already do major research projects that can mean $$$ for the 
state. 
I think there is major politics going on. The 
more I seem to know I understand why the state is in major financial 
crisis.
Just my opinion--might not be suitable for this 
forum.


Re: [luau] RE:open source article

2003-05-01 Thread Warren Togami
On Thu, 2003-05-01 at 20:48, Robin wrote:
 Okay, I'm pretty new at this and I am impressed at what open source
 can do for the public schools.  Then why is the state pushing MS
 Office?  
 Just on Tuesday I was a visitor at UH Engineering college, they too
 have so much to offer the state, I'm saying why not use the college to
 develop open source programs, other equiptment (servers,
 computers) for the state and keep the money and the knowledge base in
 the state.  They already do major research projects that can mean $$$
 for the state.  
 I think there is major politics going on.  The more I seem to know I
 understand why the state is in major financial crisis.
 Just my opinion--might not be suitable for this forum.

Very suitable for this forum.  Please read my earlier post about Open
Source in government and how it can benefit Hawaii's economy.

http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/pipermail/luau/2003-February/012477.html

The only trick is convincing people about the economic, functional and
social benefits of Open Source Software.  That is a difficult thing, but
we are making slow but steady progress on that.

Thanks,
Warren Togami
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