[luau] Taiwan Budgeting $8M to Push Linux
Because LUAU is a public forum accessible by the world at large, I will mention only what is publicly available. In a surprise move, Taiwan government yesterday announced that it will budget 25.5 million NT this year (or about 8 million USD) to urgently push Linux. http://www.epochtimes.com/b5/3/4/30/n306533.htm (you may try to go to altavista, http://babelfish.altavista.com/ , for an on-line translation) Essentially all the agencies that have anything to do with hi-tech will be involved: Ministry of Economic Affairs, Ministry of Education, National Science Foundation, Executive Yuan Science Advisory Council, etc. Only a few days ago, I heard that the money was going to be about 1.5 million USD. Such a 5-fold increase at the last minute was totally unexpected. Now that we can claim Fedora originated from Hawaii (you will be surprised as to how much that could elevate our Linuxique credibility :-) ), perhaps eventually our local Linux groups can somehow get involved. But we will see. wayne
Re: [luau] that crazy GPL stuff...
Warren Togami wrote: SCO We need to realize that the validity of GPL is closely tied to the notion of shrink-wrap licenses. There are two important issues. First, since there are no face-to-face negotiations, do you really need to abide by the terms of GPL and open your source code? If you have to open your source code, to what extent? Since there is no uniform law regarding shrink-wrap licenses, answer to this question will of course vary from state to state. Then, there is the issue of whether the GPL will bind you forever. Both issues have been advanced by David Boise of SCO. With regard to SCO, AFAIK, the real issue is, whether Microsoft should be allowed to essentially underwrite the entire cost of the law suit under the color of a highly questionable licensing agreement. A friend in Massachusetts told me that some firms are considering filing a federal RICO ( Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organization) law suit naming Microsoft and SCO as co-defendants. Now that should be interesting. wayne
[luau] shell script question
I'm trying to write a shell script that would open up a gnome terminal and have that gnome terminal execute something (that something being ssh into another machine). I think it would have to look something like: gnome-terminal "ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]" and have been trying variations on this theme, but haven't gotten anywhere, and don't really know the vocabulary for expressing what I'm trying to do. Sould somebody throw me a bone? lr __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
[luau] whatever.
Then what do you think the weight of a full grown moose is? I've never gotten gottem more than 300 or 350 pounds of meat from a moose, and that's when I was really scraping the bones, taking everything between the ribs, etc. That's like maybe 25% bodywieght, max. If you think you're going to pack 500 pounds of meat from a 1200 pound moose, you're just wrong. And why would you want to? It's a giant pain in the ass. I'm never shooting another moose unless it's standing in the back of my truck. I might consider taking one hostage and walking it back to my truck and finishing it off there, but until that's a viable solution, I'll leave the packing to you ;o) Adiosy, -Zach
Re: [luau] shell script question
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 01:05:31PM -0700, Lou Rickard wrote: > gnome-terminal "ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]" .. > Sould somebody throw me a bone? gnome-terminal -e "ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]" -Vince
Re: [luau] whatever.
I'm sorry, that was a private email to somebody else. -Charles Charles Lockhart wrote: Then what do you think the weight of a full grown moose is? I've never gotten gottem more than 300 or 350 pounds of meat from a moose, and that's when I was really scraping the bones, taking everything between the ribs, etc. That's like maybe 25% bodywieght, max. If you think you're going to pack 500 pounds of meat from a 1200 pound moose, you're just wrong. And why would you want to? It's a giant pain in the ass. I'm never shooting another moose unless it's standing in the back of my truck. I might consider taking one hostage and walking it back to my truck and finishing it off there, but until that's a viable solution, I'll leave the packing to you ;o) Adiosy, -Zach ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau -- Charles Lockhart Software Engineer University of Hawaii Institute for Astronomy NASA InfraRed Telescope Facility http://irtfweb.ifa.hawaii.edu/~lockhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] (808)956-7635
Re: [luau] whatever.
grusome! are there moose in hawaii? Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LUAU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject:[luau] whatever. Then what do you think the weight of a full grown moose is? I've never gotten gottem more than 300 or 350 pounds of meat from a moose, and that's when I was really scraping the bones, taking everything between the ribs, etc. That's like maybe 25% bodywieght, max. If you think you're going to pack 500 pounds of meat from a 1200 pound moose, you're just wrong. And why would you want to? It's a giant pain in the ass. I'm never shooting another moose unless it's standing in the back of my truck. I might consider taking one hostage and walking it back to my truck and finishing it off there, but until that's a viable solution, I'll leave the packing to you ;o) Adiosy, -Zach ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
[luau] Any RT users out there?
Alle, I was wondering if there are any users of RT (www.bestpractical.com) out there who might be interested in training with the developer, Jesse Vincent. If we could get enough people to commit, we might be able to get him to come out here vice flying to the mainland (or Europe, which is VERY popular with Jesse). Best Regards, Camron Camron W. Fox Hilo Office High Performance Computing Group Fujitsu America, INC. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [luau] whatever.
African or European Moose ? :) On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 01:27 PM, Charles Lockhart wrote: I'm sorry, that was a private email to somebody else. -Charles Charles Lockhart wrote: Then what do you think the weight of a full grown moose is? I've never gotten gottem more than 300 or 350 pounds of meat from a moose
Re: [luau] Taiwan Budgeting $8M to Push Linux
Hawaii Linux Institute wrote: Now that we can claim Fedora originated from Hawaii (you will be surprised as to how much that could elevate our Linuxique credibility :-) ), perhaps eventually our local Linux groups can somehow get involved. But we will see. wayne Well, Fedora originated in Hawaii by the ICS499 project of one geek and some University bandwidth. In reality there isn't a whole lot unique about Hawaii in this. Warren
Re: [luau] that crazy GPL stuff...
Hawaii Linux Institute wrote: Warren Togami wrote: SCO We need to realize that the validity of GPL is closely tied to the notion of shrink-wrap licenses. There are two important issues. First, since there are no face-to-face negotiations, do you really need to abide by the terms of GPL and open your source code? If you have to open your source code, to what extent? Since there is no uniform law regarding shrink-wrap licenses, answer to this question will of course vary from state to state. Then, there is the issue of whether the GPL will bind you forever. Both issues have been advanced by David Boise of SCO. I don't pretend to truly understand this legal stuff, but I recall the FSF saying repeatedly, even long before this SCO mess that you do NOT need to agree to the terms of the GPL in order to USE GPL software. The GPL only regulates what you can and cannot do in distribution. With regard to SCO, AFAIK, the real issue is, whether Microsoft should be allowed to essentially underwrite the entire cost of the law suit under the color of a highly questionable licensing agreement. A friend in Massachusetts told me that some firms are considering filing a federal RICO ( Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organization) law suit naming Microsoft and SCO as co-defendants. Now that should be interesting. wayne http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20031016164004379 If that is the case, then perhaps these guys should be another co-defendant after investing $50 million in SCO. Warren
Re: [luau] that crazy GPL stuff...
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote: >We need to realize that the validity of GPL is closely tied to the >notion of shrink-wrap licenses. IANAL, but I believe both are based on copyright law. >First, since there are no face-to-face negotiations, do you really need >to abide by the terms of GPL and open your source code? I don't think 'face-to-face negotiations' are required. GPL is a legal document. IF IT APPLIES, then you will abide by it because it's the law. Or the FSF will go after you. The 'if it applies' sentence fragment is very important. Because no one is forced to accept the GPL. But if you don't accept the GPL, then you don't get to use the software. And by use, I mean make derivative works. >If you have to open your source code, to what extent? To the extent that the GPL specifies. The GPL is very clear on this issue, and I qoute: "3. You may copy and distribute the Program (or a work based on it, under Section 2) in object code or executable form under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above provided that you also do one of the following: a) Accompany it with the complete corresponding machine-readable source code, which must be distributed under the terms of Sections 1 and 2 above on a medium customarily used for software interchange; or," I don't think there's any wiggle room here. >Since there is no uniform law regarding shrink-wrap licenses, answer to >this question will of course vary from state to state. True. >Then, there is the issue of whether the GPL will bind you forever. Both >issues have been advanced by David Boise of SCO. The GPL is based on copyright law. It binds you for the same duration as copyright binds you. --jc -- Jimen Ching (WH6BRR) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[luau] redhat 9 dhcp hostname
Hi, I too installed redhat 9 recently, and it defaults to obtaining an IP address AND a hostname from my cable internet provider. The ISP server gives me a host name based on the IP address it provides. In previous installations of redhat, I was able to give my machine a name of my own choosing. I 'solved' my problem with the redhat configuration, by editing the "dhclient-script" file, located in the /sbin directory. Somewhere near the bottom of that file, is an entry which assigns a variable name to 'hostbame'. I simply replaced the variable item with the name that I wanted to use, and rebooted. Problem solved. The ISP server is happy, Redhat 9 is happy, and I am happy. I'm able to login to "my_name_host", instead of "ISP_name_host", Evolution works, and my box still continues to function as a router. It's a bit of a kludge workaround, but hey, it works. Sincerely Ike
