Re: [LUAU] traceroute missing on Ubuntu 8*

2009-06-30 Thread R. Scott Belford
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Clifton
Royston wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 05:21:53PM -1000, Al Plant wrote:
>> Aloha,
>>
>> I have to test networks with this HP Mini running Ububtu 8*. So I need
>> traceroute. The normal Linux or FreeBSD command is the same. I searched
>> and found many complaints about this with Ubuntu. That it is missing.
>> Doesnt work from (root) sudo  or usr.
>
>  Synaptic is your friend.
>
>  Coming from FreeBSD, as I did, you're going to be extremely irked for
> a while, as I was, by everything that's *not* included in the distro.
>
>  Ubuntu's built on Debian, and Debian is an extremely stripped-down
> distro.  C Compiler? not included. Basic networking utilities? not
> included.  Etcetera, etcetera.
>
>  The bright side is that package management is done quite well; you'll
> just need to get into one of the package managers - and I do like
> the Synaptic GUI the best - browse through it and check off a ton of
> stuff, and then twiddle your thumbs for a while as it all downloads and
> installs.
>
>  -- Clifton

Debian has over 20,000 packages available.  Ubuntu is in the same
area.  For some reason Ubuntu ships with traceroute6 installed, but
not traceroute.  Should one wish to stay with the command line,
"aptitude search" and "apt-cache search" help.

In all due respect, Debian Lenny (current stable release) ships with
traceroute, traceroute6, and more.  For good security reasons, it does
not ship with the esteemed gnu C compiler.  It can be easily installed
if you want it and know why you want it.  Results follow:

From Debian Lenny, our Hosef mirror, using tab completion

sc...@mirror:~$ tracer
traceroute   traceroute.dbtracert
traceroute6  traceroute-nanog tracert.db
traceroute6.db   traceroute-nanog.db

From Ubuntu 8.04 using the aforementioned tools:

apt-cache search traceroute
iputils-tracepath - Tools to trace the network path to a remote host
mtr-tiny - Full screen ncurses traceroute tool
traceroute - Traces the route taken by packets over an IPv4/IPv6 network
honeyd - Small daemon that creates virtual hosts simulating their
services and behaviour
hp-search-mac - Search for a MAC address on HP switches
hping2 - Active Network Smashing Tool
hping3 - Active Network Smashing Tool
lft - layer-four traceroute
libnet-rawip-perl - Perl interface to lowlevel TCP/IP
libnet0 - library for the construction and handling of network packets
(obsolete)
libnet1 - library for the construction and handling of network packets
libnet1-dev - development files for libnet
mtr - Full screen ncurses and X11 traceroute tool
ndisc6 - IPv6 diagnostic tools
netwox - networking utilities
netwox-doc - documentation for netwox toolbox
paketto - Unusual TCP/IP testing tools
paris-traceroute - New version of well known tool traceroute
prewikka - Graphical analysis console for the Prelude IDS Framework
python-pyip - Python modules for raw ip packet assembling/disassembling
remstats-bintools - Remote Statistics System: traceroute and multiping
tcptraceroute - A traceroute implementation using TCP packets
traceproto - traceroute replacement that supports TCP, UDP, and ICMP
traceroute-nanog - Determine route of packets in TCP/IP networks (NANOG variant)
xt - A graphical traceroute
irpas - Internetwork Routing Protocol Attack Suite


--scott
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Re: [LUAU] traceroute missing on Ubuntu 8*

2009-06-30 Thread Clifton Royston
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 05:21:53PM -1000, Al Plant wrote:
> Aloha,
> 
> I have to test networks with this HP Mini running Ububtu 8*. So I need 
> traceroute. The normal Linux or FreeBSD command is the same. I searched 
> and found many complaints about this with Ubuntu. That it is missing. 
> Doesnt work from (root) sudo  or usr.

  Synaptic is your friend.

  Coming from FreeBSD, as I did, you're going to be extremely irked for
a while, as I was, by everything that's *not* included in the distro. 

  Ubuntu's built on Debian, and Debian is an extremely stripped-down
distro.  C Compiler? not included. Basic networking utilities? not
included.  Etcetera, etcetera.

  The bright side is that package management is done quite well; you'll
just need to get into one of the package managers - and I do like
the Synaptic GUI the best - browse through it and check off a ton of
stuff, and then twiddle your thumbs for a while as it all downloads and
installs.

  -- Clifton

-- 
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   President  - I and I Computing * http://www.iandicomputing.com/
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Re: [LUAU] traceroute missing on Ubuntu 8*

2009-06-30 Thread Jason Axelson
apt-get install traceroute ought to install it. But I would second the
choice of mtr. I find it much better than traceroute (although I've
only done limited work with either). Another thing you could check is
tracepath, and it may even already be installed on your system.

Sorry, I would check right now on one of my Ubuntu boxes, but they
seem to be down at the moment, so I'm not sure about the above advice.

Jason

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Al Plant wrote:
> Aloha,
>
> I have to test networks with this HP Mini running Ububtu 8*. So I need
> traceroute. The normal Linux or FreeBSD command is the same. I searched and
> found many complaints about this with Ubuntu. That it is missing. Doesnt
> work from (root) sudo  or usr.
>
> Acn anyone help me to install this utility and the rest that are needed for
> Network trouble shooting. Can I use aptget like Debian to install missing
> utilities. Is there away to load a full bash or tcsh shell on this box?
>
> So far the only thing I havent got running is the way to use a remote
> wireless connection like at Starbucks and my network printer I think needs a
> prrintcap file like I learned to do way back the day.
>
> Mahalo..
>
>
> ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii -  Phone:  808-284-2740
>  + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org +
>  + http://aloha50.net   - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* +
>  < email: n...@hdk5.net >
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Re: [LUAU] traceroute missing on Ubuntu 8*

2009-06-30 Thread John Montgomery

See if the mtr utility is in your distro?

http://linux.die.net/man/8/mtr

--John Montgomery

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 30, 2009, at 5:21 PM, Al Plant  wrote:


Aloha,

I have to test networks with this HP Mini running Ububtu 8*. So I  
need traceroute. The normal Linux or FreeBSD command is the same. I  
searched and found many complaints about this with Ubuntu. That it  
is missing. Doesnt work from (root) sudo  or usr.


Acn anyone help me to install this utility and the rest that are  
needed for Network trouble shooting. Can I use aptget like Debian to  
install missing utilities. Is there away to load a full bash or tcsh  
shell on this box?


So far the only thing I havent got running is the way to use a  
remote wireless connection like at Starbucks and my network printer  
I think needs a prrintcap file like I learned to do way back the day.


Mahalo..


~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii -  Phone:  808-284-2740
 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org +
 + http://aloha50.net   - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* +
 < email: n...@hdk5.net >
"All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis  
Carrol


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[LUAU] traceroute missing on Ubuntu 8*

2009-06-30 Thread Al Plant

Aloha,

I have to test networks with this HP Mini running Ububtu 8*. So I need 
traceroute. The normal Linux or FreeBSD command is the same. I searched 
and found many complaints about this with Ubuntu. That it is missing. 
Doesnt work from (root) sudo  or usr.


Acn anyone help me to install this utility and the rest that are needed 
for Network trouble shooting. Can I use aptget like Debian to install 
missing utilities. Is there away to load a full bash or tcsh shell on 
this box?


So far the only thing I havent got running is the way to use a remote 
wireless connection like at Starbucks and my network printer I think 
needs a prrintcap file like I learned to do way back the day.


Mahalo..


~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii -  Phone:  808-284-2740
  + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org +
  + http://aloha50.net   - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* +
  < email: n...@hdk5.net >
"All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol

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