[LUAU] Add dhcp wlan on existing static lan

2011-02-13 Thread Al Plant

Aloha,

I want to add a dhcp NetGear WPN824v3 wireless leg for 2 laptops (1 MS7 
and 1 Ubuntu Linux) on my existing static IP lan  of 10 desktops and 
servers (all FreeBSD).
I run fixed IP on both segments now using 192.168.1.x addresses but 
would like to have dhcp segment on the wireless side since the laptops 
have to be reconfigured every time they come back on my home/office lan.


Has anyone on our list had experience with this or knows of a how-to?

Thanks,

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Re: [LUAU] Add dhcp wlan on existing static lan

2011-02-13 Thread Jon Reynolds

Hi Al,

Give the wireless AP a static IP and create a scope that doesn't  
interfere with what you are using for your desktops. So if your  
desktops are all in the 192.168.1.100 - 192.168.1.120 range set the  
dhcp server to only give out addresses that are not in that range. A  
better idea might be to use vlans so that when a laptop does come on  
to your network, if it is compromised or infected, it will not be able  
to infect the rest of your network.


Hope that helps,

Jon



On Feb 13, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Al Plant n...@hdk5.net wrote:


Aloha,

I want to add a dhcp NetGear WPN824v3 wireless leg for 2 laptops (1  
MS7 and 1 Ubuntu Linux) on my existing static IP lan  of 10 desktops  
and servers (all FreeBSD).
I run fixed IP on both segments now using 192.168.1.x addresses but  
would like to have dhcp segment on the wireless side since the  
laptops have to be reconfigured every time they come back on my home/ 
office lan.


Has anyone on our list had experience with this or knows of a how-to?

Thanks,

~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii -  Phone:  808-284-2740
 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org +
 + http://aloha50.net   - Supporting - FreeBSD  7.2 - 8.0 - 9* +
  email: n...@hdk5.net 
All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis  
Carrol


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Re: [LUAU] Add dhcp wlan on existing static lan

2011-02-13 Thread Jason Axelson
Jon, wouldn't that count as a separate LAN? What I've done in the past
is to use a dd-wrt capable router and set it to bridging mode so it
forwards requests on to the router on the main LAN. That would allow
you to set static IP's for the computers on wireless. Of course that
isn't exactly what Al asked for.

Jason

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Jon Reynolds j...@destar.net wrote:
 Hi Al,

 Give the wireless AP a static IP and create a scope that doesn't interfere
 with what you are using for your desktops. So if your desktops are all in
 the 192.168.1.100 - 192.168.1.120 range set the dhcp server to only give out
 addresses that are not in that range. A better idea might be to use vlans so
 that when a laptop does come on to your network, if it is compromised or
 infected, it will not be able to infect the rest of your network.

 Hope that helps,

 Jon



 On Feb 13, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Al Plant n...@hdk5.net wrote:

 Aloha,

 I want to add a dhcp NetGear WPN824v3 wireless leg for 2 laptops (1 MS7
 and 1 Ubuntu Linux) on my existing static IP lan  of 10 desktops and servers
 (all FreeBSD).
 I run fixed IP on both segments now using 192.168.1.x addresses but would
 like to have dhcp segment on the wireless side since the laptops have to be
 reconfigured every time they come back on my home/office lan.

 Has anyone on our list had experience with this or knows of a how-to?

 Thanks,

 ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii -  Phone:  808-284-2740
  + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org +
  + http://aloha50.net   - Supporting - FreeBSD  7.2 - 8.0 - 9* +
   email: n...@hdk5.net 
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Re: [LUAU] Add dhcp wlan on existing static lan

2011-02-13 Thread Al Plant

Jason Axelson wrote:

Jon, wouldn't that count as a separate LAN? What I've done in the past
is to use a dd-wrt capable router and set it to bridging mode so it
forwards requests on to the router on the main LAN. That would allow
you to set static IP's for the computers on wireless. Of course that
isn't exactly what Al asked for.

Jason

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Jon Reynolds j...@destar.net wrote:

Hi Al,

Give the wireless AP a static IP and create a scope that doesn't interfere
with what you are using for your desktops. So if your desktops are all in
the 192.168.1.100 - 192.168.1.120 range set the dhcp server to only give out
addresses that are not in that range. A better idea might be to use vlans so
that when a laptop does come on to your network, if it is compromised or
infected, it will not be able to infect the rest of your network.

Hope that helps,

Jon



On Feb 13, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Al Plant n...@hdk5.net wrote:


Aloha,

I want to add a dhcp NetGear WPN824v3 wireless leg for 2 laptops (1 MS7
and 1 Ubuntu Linux) on my existing static IP lan  of 10 desktops and servers
(all FreeBSD).
I run fixed IP on both segments now using 192.168.1.x addresses but would
like to have dhcp segment on the wireless side since the laptops have to be
reconfigured every time they come back on my home/office lan.

Has anyone on our list had experience with this or knows of a how-to?

Thanks,

~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii -  Phone:  808-284-2740
 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org +
 + http://aloha50.net   - Supporting - FreeBSD  7.2 - 8.0 - 9* +
  email: n...@hdk5.net 
All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol



Aloha,

 That would allow
 you to set static IP's for the computers on wireless.


That is sort of what I have now. I want to make the wlan use DHCP to 
hook onto these 2 laptops. By creating a vlan on the NetGear wireless 
router like 192.168.1.100 /192.168.120 for instance.


I'm not sure of the way to do it on the NetGear wireless router. which 
has 192.168.1.1 as its address on the wired lan


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Re: [LUAU] Add dhcp wlan on existing static lan

2011-02-13 Thread Jon




That is sort of what I have now. I want to make the wlan use DHCP to 
hook onto these 2 laptops. By creating a vlan on the NetGear wireless 
router like 192.168.1.100 /192.168.120 for instance.


I'm not sure of the way to do it on the NetGear wireless router. which 
has 192.168.1.1 as its address on the wired lan




I am not quite sure what you are wanting Al. If you just want to be able 
to have your laptops get an IP from DHCP then just setup a DHCP server 
with your Netgear. If your workstations and servers already have a 
static IP they will keep these even if there is a DHCP server on the 
network. Static IPs trump DHCP so you don't have to worry about your 
statically assigned systems getting a DHCP address.


Your router and/or switches would need to be vlan aware to create a 
vlan. You could just create a separate network altogether, say 
192.168.2.* and do as Jason suggested. Then use your router to allow 
access between the two networks.


Hope that helps,

Jon
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Re: [LUAU] Add dhcp wlan on existing static lan

2011-02-13 Thread Clifton Royston
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:46:50AM -1000, Al Plant wrote:
 Aloha,
 
 I want to add a dhcp NetGear WPN824v3 wireless leg for 2 laptops (1 MS7 
 and 1 Ubuntu Linux) on my existing static IP lan  of 10 desktops and 
 servers (all FreeBSD).
 I run fixed IP on both segments now using 192.168.1.x addresses but 
 would like to have dhcp segment on the wireless side since the laptops 
 have to be reconfigured every time they come back on my home/office lan.
 
 Has anyone on our list had experience with this or knows of a how-to?

  One easy way to do it is install a DHCP daemon (e.g. isc-dhcpd) on
one of the FreeBSD servers, or on whatever you're using for a firewall,
configure the DHCP server to use a specific subrange of addresses for
its clients (and/or configure static address assignments into the DHCP
server bound to the MACs for your statically assigned machines), and
configure the NetGear in bridging mode.  I've done basically that for
years.

  One caveat since you mention Ubuntu: Since I upgraded my Ubuntu Dell
laptop from 8.4 LTS to 10.10 last month, it's entirely lost wireless
access.  No idea as yet whether it's its wireless DHCP client code, its
WPA supplicant, or what, but I've been disappointed with this loss of
functionality and haven't yet found time to put it back onto a wired
port and figure out what I need to do to fix it.

  -- Clifton

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