Re: [LUAU] Ubuntu and updates
> Jeff Mings wrote: > > Ubuntu/HP? You mean an HP product with Ubuntu? Which Ubuntu version > > number and desktop would that be? > > > Aloha Jeff. > > It is Ubunto 8.10 with the Synaptic manager. That indeed is an old version. I suspect that Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex will not update cleanly, or otherwise to any other supported version of Ubuntu. You would need to upgrade to Jaunty Jackalope, then Lucid Lynx, and Precise Pangolin. Ubuntu supports upgrades to the next version only. If running an LTS (long term support) version of Ubuntu, you can upgrade to the next LTS version. This assumes you haven't made any significant changes to your Ubuntu install. > It works fine for everything but Flash and the menu features that > vanished (back button for example on the inet screen). The desktop is > just HP with small windows you click on to enlarge them. I never use the > photos, music and stuff on the screen.Its used for picking up email when > I travel and searching the net. And airline schedules, checking in for > flights etc. I recommend you copy the data files off, reformat, and reinstall. If you don't like the look or feel of Unity, you might want to try Lubuntu, or Xubuntu 12.04 (Precise Pangolin). At least you would get support for the life of the machine. ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] Ubuntu and updates
Hi Al, You could probably fix the issues, but 8.10 has been unsupported for a long time. Your time is limited, so you should move to Ubuntu 12.04, since that is so much better in the long run. I've found some bugs with Unity and Gnome 3 recently, but they're really cool desktops, and you might enjoy checking them out with 12.04. The default non-free Flash player in the standard repositories works very well with Firefox and Chrome for me. Unless you're fanatically Open-Source, I wouldn't recommend the non-closed Flash replacements like gnash or lightspark. Bonne Chance, -Jeff On 09/05/2012 11:47 AM, Al Plant wrote: Jeff Mings wrote: Ubuntu/HP? You mean an HP product with Ubuntu? Which Ubuntu version number and desktop would that be? I'm guessing that Synaptic, the GUI DEB package manager, disappeared. If all else fails, aptitude is the best console / terminal-based package manager I've seen. You can do _everything_ from that, with a menu-driven interface that doesn't take a lot of time to get used to. I really wish the RPM/YUM package family under Redhat / CentOS had something as excellent as aptitude. Good Luck, -Jeff Aloha Jeff. It is Ubunto 8.10 with the Synaptic manager. It starts from a gui window and shuts off using alt/F2 to bring up the gnome-terminal. It works fine for everything but Flash and the menu features that vanished (back button for example on the inet screen). The desktop is just HP with small windows you click on to enlarge them. I never use the photos, music and stuff on the screen.Its used for picking up email when I travel and searching the net. And airline schedules, checking in for flights etc. Thanks ... AL On 09/05/2012 10:17 AM, Al Plant wrote: Aloha, Seeing the post from Jeff reminded me to ask this. I have a net book with Ubuntu/HP on it. (All of the rest of my boxes run FreeBSD) And the last time the updates ran part of the menu vanished to an auto select feature. Also I no longer have any flash that works for this unit either. Tried to update but doesnt finish install. Does any one have a suggestion to any link to a how to make things install on the version of Ubuntu that is on the machine? Or do I have to upgrade the version? Mahalo... ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: n...@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol ___ ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] Ubuntu and updates
I have never tried to convert an existing installation backwards. I strongly recommend moving to the appropriate sub-version of Ubuntu 12.04. That would probably be the desktop 64 bit version. This will probably work as an upgrade, but I would do a clean install. Remember to grab your ISO image from your friendly neighborhood open source site: http://mirror.ancl.hawaii.edu/ As you mentioned, Mate works very well. There is one annoying issue with Mate that I've run into about 2/3 of the times I've used it: If you get the error "Unable to start the settings manager 'mate-settings-daemon'" you will need to edit /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-settings-daemon.desktop : change the OnlyShowIn line to include MATE; E.g., : [Desktop Entry] Type=Application Name=GNOME Settings Daemon Exec=/usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gnome-settings-daemon OnlyShowIn=GNOME;Unity;MATE; NoDisplay=true X-GNOME-Autostart-Phase=Initialization X-GNOME-Autostart-Notify=true X-GNOME-AutoRestart=true X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain=gnome-settings-daemon This problem manifests as funky looking icons, but is easily fixed with the above edit and a restart. Bonne Chance, -Jeff On 09/05/2012 10:50 AM, J.K.Roby wrote: Yes,it is "You are using Ubuntu 10.10- the Maverick Meerkat - released in October 2010 and supported until April 2012." Is upgrade available for 10.1 to 10.04 or does it require a rebuild? On 09/05/2012 10:43 AM, Jeff Mings wrote: FYI - if you like the look of 10.1, you can use 10.04, which is one of the LTS releases. The LTS releases have very long support lives - thru April 2013 for desktop and April 2015 for the server version of 10.04. Ubuntu 12.04 is an LTS release, which is why it's such a big deal. -Jeff On 09/05/2012 10:35 AM, J.K.Roby wrote: I'm running Ubuntu 10.1 and the updates stopped long ago.The upside is the install functions perfectly. I very much like the clean desktop as opposed to the new 12.04 and am looking at this MATE overlay. Annoying that Ubuntu updates so frequently,and I read something that the Debian folks also give Shuttleworth grief for that. I was offered an update to 11.x ages ago but can't get anything better than a crippled 3G connect out here in the woods.Seems a complete backup up and rebuild is all that is available. I get my ISOs from a friends DSL. Aloha LUAU people. On 09/05/2012 10:25 AM, Jeff Mings wrote: Ubuntu/HP? You mean an HP product with Ubuntu? Which Ubuntu version number and desktop would that be? I'm guessing that Synaptic, the GUI DEB package manager, disappeared. If all else fails, aptitude is the best console / terminal-based package manager I've seen. You can do _everything_ from that, with a menu-driven interface that doesn't take a lot of time to get used to. I really wish the RPM/YUM package family under Redhat / CentOS had something as excellent as aptitude. Good Luck, -Jeff On 09/05/2012 10:17 AM, Al Plant wrote: Aloha, Seeing the post from Jeff reminded me to ask this. I have a net book with Ubuntu/HP on it. (All of the rest of my boxes run FreeBSD) And the last time the updates ran part of the menu vanished to an auto select feature. Also I no longer have any flash that works for this unit either. Tried to update but doesnt finish install. Does any one have a suggestion to any link to a how to make things install on the version of Ubuntu that is on the machine? Or do I have to upgrade the version? Mahalo... ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: n...@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] Ubuntu and updates
Jeff Mings wrote: Ubuntu/HP? You mean an HP product with Ubuntu? Which Ubuntu version number and desktop would that be? I'm guessing that Synaptic, the GUI DEB package manager, disappeared. If all else fails, aptitude is the best console / terminal-based package manager I've seen. You can do _everything_ from that, with a menu-driven interface that doesn't take a lot of time to get used to. I really wish the RPM/YUM package family under Redhat / CentOS had something as excellent as aptitude. Good Luck, -Jeff Aloha Jeff. It is Ubunto 8.10 with the Synaptic manager. It starts from a gui window and shuts off using alt/F2 to bring up the gnome-terminal. It works fine for everything but Flash and the menu features that vanished (back button for example on the inet screen). The desktop is just HP with small windows you click on to enlarge them. I never use the photos, music and stuff on the screen.Its used for picking up email when I travel and searching the net. And airline schedules, checking in for flights etc. Thanks ... AL On 09/05/2012 10:17 AM, Al Plant wrote: Aloha, Seeing the post from Jeff reminded me to ask this. I have a net book with Ubuntu/HP on it. (All of the rest of my boxes run FreeBSD) And the last time the updates ran part of the menu vanished to an auto select feature. Also I no longer have any flash that works for this unit either. Tried to update but doesnt finish install. Does any one have a suggestion to any link to a how to make things install on the version of Ubuntu that is on the machine? Or do I have to upgrade the version? Mahalo... ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: n...@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol ___ ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org -- ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: n...@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] Ubuntu and updates
Yes,it is "You are using Ubuntu 10.10- the Maverick Meerkat - released in October 2010 and supported until April 2012." Is upgrade available for 10.1 to 10.04 or does it require a rebuild? On 09/05/2012 10:43 AM, Jeff Mings wrote: FYI - if you like the look of 10.1, you can use 10.04, which is one of the LTS releases. The LTS releases have very long support lives - thru April 2013 for desktop and April 2015 for the server version of 10.04. Ubuntu 12.04 is an LTS release, which is why it's such a big deal. -Jeff On 09/05/2012 10:35 AM, J.K.Roby wrote: I'm running Ubuntu 10.1 and the updates stopped long ago.The upside is the install functions perfectly. I very much like the clean desktop as opposed to the new 12.04 and am looking at this MATE overlay. Annoying that Ubuntu updates so frequently,and I read something that the Debian folks also give Shuttleworth grief for that. I was offered an update to 11.x ages ago but can't get anything better than a crippled 3G connect out here in the woods.Seems a complete backup up and rebuild is all that is available. I get my ISOs from a friends DSL. Aloha LUAU people. On 09/05/2012 10:25 AM, Jeff Mings wrote: Ubuntu/HP? You mean an HP product with Ubuntu? Which Ubuntu version number and desktop would that be? I'm guessing that Synaptic, the GUI DEB package manager, disappeared. If all else fails, aptitude is the best console / terminal-based package manager I've seen. You can do _everything_ from that, with a menu-driven interface that doesn't take a lot of time to get used to. I really wish the RPM/YUM package family under Redhat / CentOS had something as excellent as aptitude. Good Luck, -Jeff On 09/05/2012 10:17 AM, Al Plant wrote: Aloha, Seeing the post from Jeff reminded me to ask this. I have a net book with Ubuntu/HP on it. (All of the rest of my boxes run FreeBSD) And the last time the updates ran part of the menu vanished to an auto select feature. Also I no longer have any flash that works for this unit either. Tried to update but doesnt finish install. Does any one have a suggestion to any link to a how to make things install on the version of Ubuntu that is on the machine? Or do I have to upgrade the version? Mahalo... ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: n...@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] Ubuntu and updates
FYI - if you like the look of 10.1, you can use 10.04, which is one of the LTS releases. The LTS releases have very long support lives - thru April 2013 for desktop and April 2015 for the server version of 10.04. Ubuntu 12.04 is an LTS release, which is why it's such a big deal. -Jeff On 09/05/2012 10:35 AM, J.K.Roby wrote: I'm running Ubuntu 10.1 and the updates stopped long ago.The upside is the install functions perfectly. I very much like the clean desktop as opposed to the new 12.04 and am looking at this MATE overlay. Annoying that Ubuntu updates so frequently,and I read something that the Debian folks also give Shuttleworth grief for that. I was offered an update to 11.x ages ago but can't get anything better than a crippled 3G connect out here in the woods.Seems a complete backup up and rebuild is all that is available. I get my ISOs from a friends DSL. Aloha LUAU people. On 09/05/2012 10:25 AM, Jeff Mings wrote: Ubuntu/HP? You mean an HP product with Ubuntu? Which Ubuntu version number and desktop would that be? I'm guessing that Synaptic, the GUI DEB package manager, disappeared. If all else fails, aptitude is the best console / terminal-based package manager I've seen. You can do _everything_ from that, with a menu-driven interface that doesn't take a lot of time to get used to. I really wish the RPM/YUM package family under Redhat / CentOS had something as excellent as aptitude. Good Luck, -Jeff On 09/05/2012 10:17 AM, Al Plant wrote: Aloha, Seeing the post from Jeff reminded me to ask this. I have a net book with Ubuntu/HP on it. (All of the rest of my boxes run FreeBSD) And the last time the updates ran part of the menu vanished to an auto select feature. Also I no longer have any flash that works for this unit either. Tried to update but doesnt finish install. Does any one have a suggestion to any link to a how to make things install on the version of Ubuntu that is on the machine? Or do I have to upgrade the version? Mahalo... ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: n...@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] Ubuntu and updates
I'm running Ubuntu 10.1 and the updates stopped long ago.The upside is the install functions perfectly. I very much like the clean desktop as opposed to the new 12.04 and am looking at this MATE overlay. Annoying that Ubuntu updates so frequently,and I read something that the Debian folks also give Shuttleworth grief for that. I was offered an update to 11.x ages ago but can't get anything better than a crippled 3G connect out here in the woods.Seems a complete backup up and rebuild is all that is available. I get my ISOs from a friends DSL. Aloha LUAU people. On 09/05/2012 10:25 AM, Jeff Mings wrote: Ubuntu/HP? You mean an HP product with Ubuntu? Which Ubuntu version number and desktop would that be? I'm guessing that Synaptic, the GUI DEB package manager, disappeared. If all else fails, aptitude is the best console / terminal-based package manager I've seen. You can do _everything_ from that, with a menu-driven interface that doesn't take a lot of time to get used to. I really wish the RPM/YUM package family under Redhat / CentOS had something as excellent as aptitude. Good Luck, -Jeff On 09/05/2012 10:17 AM, Al Plant wrote: Aloha, Seeing the post from Jeff reminded me to ask this. I have a net book with Ubuntu/HP on it. (All of the rest of my boxes run FreeBSD) And the last time the updates ran part of the menu vanished to an auto select feature. Also I no longer have any flash that works for this unit either. Tried to update but doesnt finish install. Does any one have a suggestion to any link to a how to make things install on the version of Ubuntu that is on the machine? Or do I have to upgrade the version? Mahalo... ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: n...@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] Ubuntu and updates
Ubuntu/HP? You mean an HP product with Ubuntu? Which Ubuntu version number and desktop would that be? I'm guessing that Synaptic, the GUI DEB package manager, disappeared. If all else fails, aptitude is the best console / terminal-based package manager I've seen. You can do _everything_ from that, with a menu-driven interface that doesn't take a lot of time to get used to. I really wish the RPM/YUM package family under Redhat / CentOS had something as excellent as aptitude. Good Luck, -Jeff On 09/05/2012 10:17 AM, Al Plant wrote: Aloha, Seeing the post from Jeff reminded me to ask this. I have a net book with Ubuntu/HP on it. (All of the rest of my boxes run FreeBSD) And the last time the updates ran part of the menu vanished to an auto select feature. Also I no longer have any flash that works for this unit either. Tried to update but doesnt finish install. Does any one have a suggestion to any link to a how to make things install on the version of Ubuntu that is on the machine? Or do I have to upgrade the version? Mahalo... ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: n...@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
[LUAU] Ubuntu and updates
Aloha, Seeing the post from Jeff reminded me to ask this. I have a net book with Ubuntu/HP on it. (All of the rest of my boxes run FreeBSD) And the last time the updates ran part of the menu vanished to an auto select feature. Also I no longer have any flash that works for this unit either. Tried to update but doesnt finish install. Does any one have a suggestion to any link to a how to make things install on the version of Ubuntu that is on the machine? Or do I have to upgrade the version? Mahalo... ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + < email: n...@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
