Re: [LUAU] Ubuntu Networking

2009-06-28 Thread R. Scott Belford
 Aloha Scott,

 Mahalo for pointing me in the right direction.
 I was able to lock the network admin settings into manual mode and that
 worked. I was able to put both wlan and eth0 into the network/interfaces
 file and can usr the ifup and ifdown to use either. I also made backup files
 of the settings in the directory too.

 You have any thoughts on how I can get a cafe link to not override every
 thing if I wanted to use the netbook at a Starbucks or other place with
 wifi? I'm afraid that the auto config over writes the networks file if you
 use it.

Aloha Al

Given your depth and experience with FreeBSD and the terminal, you may
find yourself comfortable with the /usr/share/doc/{relevant
documents}.  The Debian/Ubuntu realm have good documentation for
configuring various behaviors within /etc/network/.  The wpasupplicant
files have good information for profiles.

I know just what you are dealing with.  The GUI tool has the ability
to set a profile, but it never really worked well for me.  This is
kind of a weak area right now, and it's partly why WICD is becoming so
popular.

The way I handled your situation for years on my old orange ibook
running debian was to create a few /etc/network/interfaces files.
Then I ran a basic script like iamhome, iamatwork, iamatuh, to load
the appropriate configurations for my interfaces.  For you, this will
work fine.


 ~Al Plant

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Re: [LUAU] Ubuntu Networking

2009-06-28 Thread Al Plant

R. Scott Belford wrote:

Aloha Scott,

Mahalo for pointing me in the right direction.
I was able to lock the network admin settings into manual mode and that
worked. I was able to put both wlan and eth0 into the network/interfaces
file and can usr the ifup and ifdown to use either. I also made backup files
of the settings in the directory too.

You have any thoughts on how I can get a cafe link to not override every
thing if I wanted to use the netbook at a Starbucks or other place with
wifi? I'm afraid that the auto config over writes the networks file if you
use it.


Aloha Al

Given your depth and experience with FreeBSD and the terminal, you may
find yourself comfortable with the /usr/share/doc/{relevant
documents}.  The Debian/Ubuntu realm have good documentation for
configuring various behaviors within /etc/network/.  The wpasupplicant
files have good information for profiles.

I know just what you are dealing with.  The GUI tool has the ability
to set a profile, but it never really worked well for me.  This is
kind of a weak area right now, and it's partly why WICD is becoming so
popular.

The way I handled your situation for years on my old orange ibook
running debian was to create a few /etc/network/interfaces files.
Then I ran a basic script like iamhome, iamatwork, iamatuh, to load
the appropriate configurations for my interfaces.  For you, this will
work fine.


~Al Plant


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Aloha Scott,

Thats what I figured I'd do too.

Brian Chee sent me the how to on the other WAN stuff. I'll try that too.

Thanks again.

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Re: [LUAU] Ubuntu Networking

2009-06-27 Thread Al Plant

R. Scott Belford wrote:

Al

There are 3 (among others) ways you can adjust your network settings.
You can manually edit your /etc/network/interfaces file, you can use
system/administration/network, or you can click the
network-manager-applet in the top right part of your screen.

It sounds like you have a Wired and a Wireless lan that you want to
bring up.  I would suggest using the system/administration/network
tool for this.

Wicd, as mentioned by Jason, will likely and eventually replace the
current tools.

--scott

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Al Plantn...@hdk5.net wrote:

Aloha Gurus,

I run FreeBSD servers and desktops and now I have an HP Mini 1000 netbook
with Ubuntu OS.
I have setup the /etc/network/interfaces :

The manual connection works OK for my ATM circuit wired network, now I want
to set a second network config for my LAN wireless.
Any body on Luau had experience with a wired network link. I want to set it
up manually so I dont lose the wired settings for when I am on the ATM
circuit. Using the helper apps on the Netbook is not an option as it doesnt
seem to play nice with more than one config.
I am trying to set up the wireless so I can use either it or the wired link,
obviously not both. With out losing either configuration.

Also I want to know if it can be setup to work in a Starbucks configuration
with DHCP again with out losing the existing configs.

Note: Using the autoconfig helper destroys everything existing if you use
it. I am used to command like setups for networks not the GUI point and
click.

Any help appreciated.

Mahalo...

~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii -  Phone:  808-284-2740
 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org +
 + http://aloha50.net   - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* +
  email: n...@hdk5.net 
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Aloha Scott,

Mahalo for pointing me in the right direction.
I was able to lock the network admin settings into manual mode and that 
worked. I was able to put both wlan and eth0 into the network/interfaces 
file and can usr the ifup and ifdown to use either. I also made backup 
files of the settings in the directory too.


You have any thoughts on how I can get a cafe link to not override every 
thing if I wanted to use the netbook at a Starbucks or other place with 
wifi? I'm afraid that the auto config over writes the networks file if 
you use it.




~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii -  Phone:  808-284-2740
  + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org +
  + http://aloha50.net   - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* +
   email: n...@hdk5.net 
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Re: [LUAU] Ubuntu Networking

2009-06-27 Thread Brian Chee
Hey, lookie what I found:
http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS6100424493.html

This looks like what you're asking for and it's open sourceI've not
tried it, but it looks like what you've asked for.

The direct link to the Xirrus download site is:
http://www.xirrus.com/library/wifitools.php

/brian chee



On 6/27/09 4:40 PM, Al Plant n...@hdk5.net wrote:

 R. Scott Belford wrote:
 Al
 
 There are 3 (among others) ways you can adjust your network settings.
 You can manually edit your /etc/network/interfaces file, you can use
 system/administration/network, or you can click the
 network-manager-applet in the top right part of your screen.
 
 It sounds like you have a Wired and a Wireless lan that you want to
 bring up.  I would suggest using the system/administration/network
 tool for this.
 
 Wicd, as mentioned by Jason, will likely and eventually replace the
 current tools.
 
 --scott
 
 On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Al Plantn...@hdk5.net wrote:
 Aloha Gurus,
 
 I run FreeBSD servers and desktops and now I have an HP Mini 1000 netbook
 with Ubuntu OS.
 I have setup the /etc/network/interfaces :
 
 The manual connection works OK for my ATM circuit wired network, now I want
 to set a second network config for my LAN wireless.
 Any body on Luau had experience with a wired network link. I want to set it
 up manually so I dont lose the wired settings for when I am on the ATM
 circuit. Using the helper apps on the Netbook is not an option as it doesnt
 seem to play nice with more than one config.
 I am trying to set up the wireless so I can use either it or the wired link,
 obviously not both. With out losing either configuration.
 
 Also I want to know if it can be setup to work in a Starbucks configuration
 with DHCP again with out losing the existing configs.
 
 Note: Using the autoconfig helper destroys everything existing if you use
 it. I am used to command like setups for networks not the GUI point and
 click.
 
 Any help appreciated.
 
 Mahalo...
 
 ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii -  Phone:  808-284-2740
  + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org +
  + http://aloha50.net   - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* +
   email: n...@hdk5.net 
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 Aloha Scott,
 
 Mahalo for pointing me in the right direction.
 I was able to lock the network admin settings into manual mode and that
 worked. I was able to put both wlan and eth0 into the network/interfaces
 file and can usr the ifup and ifdown to use either. I also made backup
 files of the settings in the directory too.
 
 You have any thoughts on how I can get a cafe link to not override every
 thing if I wanted to use the netbook at a Starbucks or other place with
 wifi? I'm afraid that the auto config over writes the networks file if
 you use it.
 
 
 
 ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii -  Phone:  808-284-2740
+ http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org +
+ http://aloha50.net   - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* +
 email: n...@hdk5.net 
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School of Ocean and Earth Sciences and Technology (SOEST)
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Honolulu, HI 96822
Tel: 808-956-5797



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Re: [LUAU] Ubuntu Networking

2009-06-27 Thread Al Plant

Brian Chee wrote:

Hey, lookie what I found:
http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS6100424493.html

This looks like what you're asking for and it's open sourceI've not
tried it, but it looks like what you've asked for.

The direct link to the Xirrus download site is:
http://www.xirrus.com/library/wifitools.php

/brian chee



On 6/27/09 4:40 PM, Al Plant n...@hdk5.net wrote:


R. Scott Belford wrote:

Al

There are 3 (among others) ways you can adjust your network settings.
You can manually edit your /etc/network/interfaces file, you can use
system/administration/network, or you can click the
network-manager-applet in the top right part of your screen.

It sounds like you have a Wired and a Wireless lan that you want to
bring up.  I would suggest using the system/administration/network
tool for this.

Wicd, as mentioned by Jason, will likely and eventually replace the
current tools.

--scott

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Al Plantn...@hdk5.net wrote:

Aloha Gurus,

I run FreeBSD servers and desktops and now I have an HP Mini 1000 netbook
with Ubuntu OS.
I have setup the /etc/network/interfaces :

The manual connection works OK for my ATM circuit wired network, now I want
to set a second network config for my LAN wireless.
Any body on Luau had experience with a wired network link. I want to set it
up manually so I dont lose the wired settings for when I am on the ATM
circuit. Using the helper apps on the Netbook is not an option as it doesnt
seem to play nice with more than one config.
I am trying to set up the wireless so I can use either it or the wired link,
obviously not both. With out losing either configuration.

Also I want to know if it can be setup to work in a Starbucks configuration
with DHCP again with out losing the existing configs.

Note: Using the autoconfig helper destroys everything existing if you use
it. I am used to command like setups for networks not the GUI point and
click.

Any help appreciated.

Mahalo...

~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii -  Phone:  808-284-2740
 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org +
 + http://aloha50.net   - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* +
  email: n...@hdk5.net 
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Aloha Scott,

Mahalo for pointing me in the right direction.
I was able to lock the network admin settings into manual mode and that
worked. I was able to put both wlan and eth0 into the network/interfaces
file and can usr the ifup and ifdown to use either. I also made backup
files of the settings in the directory too.

You have any thoughts on how I can get a cafe link to not override every
thing if I wanted to use the netbook at a Starbucks or other place with
wifi? I'm afraid that the auto config over writes the networks file if
you use it.



~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii -  Phone:  808-284-2740
   + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org +
   + http://aloha50.net   - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* +
email: n...@hdk5.net 
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Mahalo Brian,

I'll give it a shot and report back.

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  + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org +
  + http://aloha50.net   - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* +
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Re: [LUAU] Ubuntu Networking

2009-06-23 Thread Jason Axelson
Well, I don't use FreeBSD, I use Arch Linux. But I'll share what has
worked for me anyway.

I usually use netcfg (cli)
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Network_Profiles and it works
quite well. If I'm in the mood for a gui program I use wicd. Which
also works well.

Good luck in your search,
Jason

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Al Plantn...@hdk5.net wrote:
 Aloha Gurus,

 I run FreeBSD servers and desktops and now I have an HP Mini 1000 netbook
 with Ubuntu OS.
 I have setup the /etc/network/interfaces :

 The manual connection works OK for my ATM circuit wired network, now I want
 to set a second network config for my LAN wireless.
 Any body on Luau had experience with a wired network link. I want to set it
 up manually so I dont lose the wired settings for when I am on the ATM
 circuit. Using the helper apps on the Netbook is not an option as it doesnt
 seem to play nice with more than one config.
 I am trying to set up the wireless so I can use either it or the wired link,
 obviously not both. With out losing either configuration.

 Also I want to know if it can be setup to work in a Starbucks configuration
 with DHCP again with out losing the existing configs.

 Note: Using the autoconfig helper destroys everything existing if you use
 it. I am used to command like setups for networks not the GUI point and
 click.

 Any help appreciated.

 Mahalo...

 ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii -  Phone:  808-284-2740
  + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org +
  + http://aloha50.net   - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* +
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Re: [LUAU] Ubuntu Networking

2009-06-23 Thread R. Scott Belford
Al

There are 3 (among others) ways you can adjust your network settings.
You can manually edit your /etc/network/interfaces file, you can use
system/administration/network, or you can click the
network-manager-applet in the top right part of your screen.

It sounds like you have a Wired and a Wireless lan that you want to
bring up.  I would suggest using the system/administration/network
tool for this.

Wicd, as mentioned by Jason, will likely and eventually replace the
current tools.

--scott

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Al Plantn...@hdk5.net wrote:
 Aloha Gurus,

 I run FreeBSD servers and desktops and now I have an HP Mini 1000 netbook
 with Ubuntu OS.
 I have setup the /etc/network/interfaces :

 The manual connection works OK for my ATM circuit wired network, now I want
 to set a second network config for my LAN wireless.
 Any body on Luau had experience with a wired network link. I want to set it
 up manually so I dont lose the wired settings for when I am on the ATM
 circuit. Using the helper apps on the Netbook is not an option as it doesnt
 seem to play nice with more than one config.
 I am trying to set up the wireless so I can use either it or the wired link,
 obviously not both. With out losing either configuration.

 Also I want to know if it can be setup to work in a Starbucks configuration
 with DHCP again with out losing the existing configs.

 Note: Using the autoconfig helper destroys everything existing if you use
 it. I am used to command like setups for networks not the GUI point and
 click.

 Any help appreciated.

 Mahalo...

 ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii -  Phone:  808-284-2740
  + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org +
  + http://aloha50.net   - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* +
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