Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] drop box
On 12/29/2010 07:42 AM, Tim Bernhard wrote: It's obvious that you are not reading my replies. I know how sudo works. You choose to read what you want and act like a troll. This is my last reply to you, so you can have the last word if you like. You need that more than I do. I should have know there would be a snob among us. So do you want to help or should I go back to Peppermint? Relax Tim, you're not the first to get this treatment. Almost seems like there is a need for genuflections by others who are historically earlier on the list. A sort of pecking order, so to speak. Laughable in a linux culture. And yes, more than a few here need to understand sudo, apt-get and aptitude better rather than accusing others of not understanding them so as to act condescending and haughty. I was asked to refer some 4 web pages and after wasting my frigging time doing that, found out the OP did not really understand sudo and all that he really wants was to appear high and mighty. And I guess that's the only environment in which they can contribute. But having said that, I suppose there will be people like that in every list, and to let some asses, who are not developers BTW, subvert what could be a good system, is defeatist and counter productive, not to mention unlinuxlike. I hope you can rise above these petty grouses and look forward to hearing more from you. Take care - Goh Lip -- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu on Intel and i586
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 17:03:59 +0800, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 00:20:54 -0400 Ben Coleman olo...@benshome.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/14/2010 07:24 PM, Benny Hult wrote: But it lacks with packages if you compare to Lubuntu. Hope we can see you using Lubuntu still in the future, becouse the grass ain't greener on the other side of the fence ;) Well, turns out that my other Lubuntu candidate (A Compaq Armada 7800 running a PII/266) is i686-class despite being slower than the AMD, so Lubuntu 10.10 should run OK on it, if I can manage to burn a Lubuntu CD-R that it will read (the CDROM reader on this machine tends to be a bit finicky, and it's old enough that I don't think that it will boot from USB Flash). It is unfortunate this problem as it mainly effects AMD chips as far as I can gather. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/587186I One solution if you want to run Lubuntu on the 586 machine would be to use the10.04 (Lucid) version, which is what I’ve done on a couple of machines. If you’re having problems with the CD drive it may be worth looking at http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ which has a couple of ways of booting flash drives, using either a floppy http://www.pendrivelinux.com/use-a-floppy-to-boot-usb-pendrive-linux/#more-294 or CD. Or use an existing grub2 menu and manually boot up the usb OS. Of course, you can let the OS with the grub2 generate the usb OS menu with update-grub (with the stick attached). Regards - Goh Lip -- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] plymouth
Bob Trevithick wrote: Amen!! Let's dump this Plymouth crap. I'm over my head here, but I've heard others say that this thing is like a cancer that has metathesized throughout the entire system. That the dependencies make it almost impossible to remove. I sincerely hope this isn't true. I booted some system the other day, I forget what it was, and it just printed the text Booting, please wait.. What a joy that was. It looked so professional compared to the mess we've been seeing for so long now. /rant :-) Heh heh, so there are different opinions, even from the same person ;) not to mention from other people as well. Anyways, a simple solution to circumvent this while it is being sorted out in 'pre-release' versions is to delete the 'splash' in the kernel (linux) line of the grub menu. Hope this helps. - Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?
On Thursday 23,September,2010 08:55 PM, Leszek Lesner wrote: Persistency(with casper-rw) will save all the changes to files comparing with the live system data. So applications that you installed later with apt-get and even configuration files you created in your home folder. How about kernel upgrades (as in 2.6.35-22-generic from 2.6.35-21-generic), does that keep that too? If not, how to endure it does or at least how to make sure the new kernel boots up the next time? Regards - Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?
On Thursday 23,September,2010 09:29 PM, Leszek Lesner wrote: Kernel changes will be also changed but only in the persistency file. As the bootloader normaly searches for a vmlinuz and initrd on the fat32 portion of a usb stick, you need to replace the old vmlinuz and initrd files on your usb sticks casper directory. Thanks, Leszek, no wonder kernel changes didn't work for me in the past. Er, maybe I have to also rename initrd.img to initrd.lz, and move to the casper directory? Hopefully there is no need to do a update-initramfs -u, but I'll watch out for it. Wonderful, you gave me an idea. I'll have to give it a try next time. - My Lubuntu is a 'real install' on a usb stick, but I am not complaining! It is far far better than a live stick. Thanks and regards - Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?
On Thursday 23,September,2010 09:36 PM, Gilles wrote: Apparently, the kernel (vmlinuz + possibly initrd.(lz/gz)) live outside the live root file system filesystem.squashfs, so must be copied manually in \casper after mounting the USB key in the running Lubuntu. I'd also like to know if the persistence described above does save all the changes made through apt-get, or just configuration files in /etc. I sent a message without receiving your message yet. Yes, you're right, it does live outside, in the casper directory. And from my (limited) experience with casper, casper-rw and persistent, so far all changes I've made stick (keeps), including applications, settings and so far with the main exception of kernel changes, and that to me is an important one, so I did not use this live booting except to test out new alpha versions of kubuntu. But I've found Lubuntu to an excellent OS to boot direct from a usb, unlike say, Ubuntu Netbook Remix and even the smaller distros like Puppy or DSL. So I am typing this from a 'direct install' of Lubuntu from a usb stick even when I have Kubuntu and others on the hard disk. I'm loving it! Regards - Gph Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?
On Thursday 23,September,2010 10:44 PM, Gilles wrote: Sounds good. However, the image that is sent to the USB key is the current Lubuntu ISO, while I need to remove most of the items in the Menu, add a couple of applications, so I guess this is not what I need, and I should look at remastering the ISO from the customized, running USB key. Gilles, when you boot up the live Lubuntu, at the desktop, there is an icon that asks whether you want to install to hard disk. What I did was to proceed but chose to install to a usb stick, that is all. (But if you run the live off a usb, you need another usb to install to) BTW, does someone know exactly how initrd.(gz|lz) is built? Am I correct in thinking it's just grabbing everything in /lib/modules/ and compressing them in a single file? That, is too technical for me, and I wouldn't know, sorry. :) Regards - Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?
On Thursday 23,September,2010 10:30 PM, Goh Lip wrote: Giles, if you need further information, please let us know. Ah, I've found an old post that might help... http://www.mail-archive.com/lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net/msg01347.html Regards - Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] BUG: 10.10 Beta1: MAJOR GRUB ISSUE
On Thursday 23,September,2010 09:52 PM, Pierre Yahoo wrote:
Grub does not detect all partitions possibly because a system has both a
rescue partition and a main partition for Windows. Happened to me on 2
Vista machines. Reinsalling Vista did not fix the problem. Also tried
to reinstall GRUB and update it without success. Also tried and failed
with the Vista bootrec commands.
Pierre, there is a post in Ubuntu mailing list with a similar problem
On 21 September 2010 21:28, Goh Lip g@gmx.com wrote:
Colin, instead of using (hd0,x) as done earlier, for a permanent more
failsafe manual entry for windows, make it use uuid as well too, as an
example
menuentry Windows Vista {
insmod ntfs
set root=(hd0,x)
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set xxx
chainloader +1
}
I was in the process of following this advice when I looked more
carefully at grub.cfg and realised that I had misinterpreted the
problem. It is actually on a relative's machine several hundred miles
away which has complicated things a bit. The Vista boot is not
missing at all, it is just wrongly labeled in the boot menu. There
should be a Windows Recovery entry and a Vista entry, (and my relative
is confident that there used to be a Vista one, but is not sure what
the recovery one was labeled as). Now, however, the recovery one is
labeled Windows NT/2000/XP (on /dev/sda1) and the Vista one is
labeled Windows Recovery Environment (loader) (on /dev/sda2) which
is rather confusing to say the least.
In order to avoid confusion I am going ahead with a custom entry for
Vista as you have suggested. It would be nice to hide the erroneous
entries but I have not been able to work out how to do that.
Sorry for messing everyone about with faulty info.
See if this also happens to you, ie., the recovery entry is the 'real
entry' and the 'system' entry is the recovery entry for Vista.
You can check too as per my post to Colin earlier..
You should check if you can boot up windows if you do the following at
the grub prompt (press 'c' at grub menu)
set root=(hd0,x)
chainloader +1
boot
where (hd0,x) is /dev/sdax of the windows partition, (usually x=1)
Regards - Goh Lip
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] extra grub entry
On 09/15/2010 05:50 AM, kosaidpo wrote: hello guys when i wanted to remove my old kernel i did cd /boot rm -rf the_kernel_version then updated grub Remove old kernels by synaptic, totally remove, or better yet sudo apt-get remove --purge 2.6.2x-xx-* Suggest you keep at least one older kernel, especially for non-final versions, like Maverick 10.10. Regards - Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] /etc/apt/source.list.d
On Sunday 29,August,2010 08:03 PM, Lane Lester wrote: Is that the right one for Lubuntu? I still have the one that was with the distro, and it generates errors. I know the errors have been explained, but I've never gotten around to editing it. Lane Yes, Lane, it is the right one for Lubuntu. I have only Lubuntu installed at the usb stick, no ubuntu or kubuntu. As mentioned before, I do not have any problem now with Maverick and it is updated several times since, now at 2.6.35-19 and the grub.cfg is now automatically generated. But if I followed what others (at Ubuntu) have done to solve the nvidia problem that you may have, it goes something like this At xorg.conf, change Driver nvidia to Driver nv Append at *top* of xorg.conf . Section ServerFlags Option IgnoreABI True EndSection reboot (at this point you may not have nvidia, just vesa) If, you boot to a terminal and not desktop, login and do update/upgrade. You may have to reboot if there is any kernel changes, check if grub.cfg is updated, if not sudo update-grub first before reboot. After reboot, if still at terminal, startx or startlxde. Then reinstall your nvidia driver at preferences-additional drivers. Make sure you set save to X configuration file at the Nvidia settings when installed. Good luck. - Goh Lip -- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] /etc/apt/source.list.d
On 08/29/2010 02:49 AM, kosaidpo wrote: i've upgraded to maverick and i have some issues on this directory so please if anynone is on maverick can send me this Directory /etc/apt/source.list.d Do you mean /etc/apt/source.list? Then here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/485240/ Regards - Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] WARNING: X-server breakage coming soon to a computer near you
To all, not withstanding Lane and I got our Lubuntu Maverick working, please take note of the following post from the Ubuntu list You are going to have to use nouveau for now, the proprietary nvidia-96 and nvidia-173 drivers do not work with xserver 1.9 and most likely will not until right before release. 256.44 that is in ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates does work for the GPU's it supports with IgnoreABI added to the serverflags section in your xorg.conf but the older releases don't. If you want accelerated 3D (for compiz) with nouveau you can install the libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental package if you are using the mesa 7.8 that is in maverick. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=14 is the proper place to report the problem, we can't do anything about it with the binary drivers. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=153963 From AaronP (the nVidia guy that helps/supports Ubuntu): quote Re: X server 1.9 crash with 173.14.27 Prerelease and release candidate X servers are not officially supported. In addition, Keith just declared the ABI in the upcoming xserver 1.9 series as frozen, so support will be coming soon in a future version of the current release series, but support in the legacy drivers is not considered a particularly high priority so don't expect it any time soon. /quote So please watch out. Regards - Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] WARNING: X-server breakage coming soon to a computer near you
On Friday 13,August,2010 12:54 AM, Lane Lester wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Goh Lip g@gmx.com mailto:g@gmx.com wrote: I think, but I am not quite sure, startx for lxde is startlxde Well, I didn't get a chance to find out. I did another apt-get update/upgrade, like I did yesterday, and this time I also ran: aptitude remove nvidia-current (after installing aptitude) It removed 80-something files, including openoffice, linux-headers, fonts, etc. I thought I was going to end up with a dead install. But no, the normal boot went normally! I'm composing this email in Lubuntu. With no /etc/X11/xorg.conf, I don't know what driver is working. Is there a way to tell? I don't play any games, so I don't know if there's an advantage to my running nvidia-current or not. Lane Glad you have your Lubuntu back. That was a neat trick (remove nvidia-current) and may I refer your method to some guys at ubuntu having the same problem, (gpl v2 licence ? :) ) Curiously, I don't have this problem with Kubuntu Maverick, maybe the 64 bit xserver was sorted okay. There is a launchpad bug report on this. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/616023 And no, I don't know how we can check what driver you are using, with no xorg.conf; maybe others on the list can help. Regards and take care - Goh Lip -- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Problema con el Ubuntu 10.04 en una laptop Compaq
On 07/08/2010 03:15 AM, Phillip Whiteside wrote: Hi Fransico, This being translated by google translation, so it will probably not read quite correctly. I appreciate you have a bug but I do not think the bug-squad can look into it, until you have registered it as bug using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs_es while that happens I'd like to suggest that you try a minimal installation and then add the lubuntu desktop onto that. There are instructions for that at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Minimal Install If you would like me to run google translate over them for you, please ask. Hi BugSquad, I've suggested something that may help, and also copied this to the lubuntu mailing list. I'm still new at bug squad things, so please forgive me if I have done something wrong Regards, Phill. Hola Fransico, esta siendo traducido por traducción de Google, por lo que probablemente no lea toda la razón. Le agradezco que haya un error, pero no creo que el error de los escuadrones pueden mirar en él, hasta que se ha registrado como fallo usando https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs_es mientras eso sucede me gustaría sugerir que trate de una instalación mínima y luego añadir el escritorio lubuntu en eso. Hay instrucciones para que en la dirección https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Minimal Install Si me gusta correr traductor Google sobre ellos para usted, por favor pregunte. Hola BugSquad, he sugerido algo que puede ayudar, y copian esto a la lista de correo lubuntu. Todavía estoy en las cosas nuevas escuadrón de errores, así que por favor me perdone si he hecho algo mal Un cordial saludo, Phill. 2010/7/1 Francisco Davila pan...@mined.rimed.cu mailto:pan...@mined.rimed.cu Saludos a todos: Disculpen les escriba en español pero mi ingles no es nada bueno. Deseaba consultarles el siguiente problema: Tengo una laptop Compaq Presario 1215US (40Gb disco, 320Mb RAM CPU Athlon 4 1Ghz chiset VIA686A) a la cual necesito por situaciones de estudio instalarle el sistema GNU Ubuntu. Como la laptop esta algo limitada en recursos no utilice la instalacion grafica y opte por realizar la instalacion utilizando la version Alternate de Ubuntu 10.04 instalando en modo de linea de comando. Posteriormente instale los paquetes adecuados (Gnome Office, el navegador Midori, el gestor de correo Sylpheed y otras aplicaciones ligeras. Concluida la instalacion de los paquetes al reiniciar comienza la carga del sistema, pero inesperadamente la laptop se cuelga. El problema no ocurre siempre en el mismo punto, a veces logro llegar a la pantalla de login, otras veces logro incluso entrar al sistema y entonces se cuelga al intentar abrir cualquier programa. Repeti la instalacion varias veces utilizando el desktop XFCE (Xubuntu 10.04) y sucede lo mismo. Llegue a probar con LXDE (Lubuntu 10.04) y lo mismo. Consulte el log y en el inicio de la carga del sistema me aparece lo siguiente: [8.828369] ACPI: I/O resource vt596_smbus [0x8100-0x8107] conflicts with ACPI region SMIO [0x8100-0x8106] [8.965801] via686a :00:07.4: base adress not set - upgrade BIOS or use force_addr=0xaddr En una prueba ulterior con la base ubuntu 10.04 y el entorno lxde instalado (solo el paquete lxde, sin instalar el paquete de lubuntu-desktop completo) con algunas aplicaciones (Abiword, Gnumeric, Sylpheed y Midori) arranque en modo recuperacion, inicie una sesion de consola como root y cargue el sistema con el comando startx y todo funciona bien, puedo utilizar la laptop por horas sin que ocurra ningun problema. Reinicie en el modo normal y de nuevo se cuelga. Esperando puedan ayudarme gracias a todos desde ya. Saludos cordiales. Frank -- Ubuntu-bugsquad mailing list ubuntu-bugsq...@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:ubuntu-bugsq...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugsquad Francisco Davila pan...@mined.rimed.cu mailto:pan...@mined.rimed.cu 2010/7/1 Greetings to all: Sorry I write in Spanish, but my English is not good. He wanted to consult the following problem: I have a Compaq Presario 1215US laptop (40GB drive, 320MB RAM 1Ghz CPU Athlon 4 chiset via686) to which I need to study situations putting on Ubuntu GNU system. As the laptop is somewhat limited in resources do not use the graphical installer and choose to install using the Alternate version of Ubuntu 4.10 installed in command line mode. Then install the appropriate packages (Gnome Office, Midori browser, Sylpheed mail manager and other lightweight applications. After the installation of packages when you restart the system begins loading, but suddenly the laptop hangs. The problem does not occur always in the same spot, sometimes made it to the login screen, sometimes achieving even enter the system and then hangs when trying to open any program. I repeated the installation
[Lubuntu-desktop] New kernel available
There is a new kernel, 2.6.32-23 available in Lucid and as per Daniel Hallett's post, there is no notification in Lubuntu about any upgrade. Just a friendly reminder to upgrade to the new kernel. And don't forget to reboot to effect the change (and there's also no warning in Lubuntu to do that). Oh, and if the grub being set to mbr (sda) is not from Lubuntu, another reminder to go to the OS where the grub is set and do a 'update-grub' so that it will boot to the new kernel in Lubuntu (otherwise the old kernel will be used). Regards - Goh Lip -- If you understand, things are the way they are. If you do not understand, things are the way they are. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Grub Install Bug @Lubuntu-10.04 (Distribution Release)
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 10:20:35 +0300 Abnormal Terminate(R) abnormal...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, I to do it at described night :) Sincerely, A.T. Boot up the desktop linux distro with the external drive plugged in. At the terminal of that linux distro, type the following... sudo grub-install /dev/sda Done. Welcome. Regards - Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Grub Install Bug @Lubuntu-10.04 (Distribution Release)
On 06/28/2010 05:23 PM, Richard Austin wrote: Yorvyk - I stand corrected on Grub 2 being in Alpha - I hadn't realised it came out of beta. Goh - I wasn't criticising Grub 2 since I have had no problems with it myself. I have heard others have and particularly with external drives as you mentioned. Since an awful lot of people are going to give Linux a try on an external drive it is not too good that it will most likely fail. Yes, I know that, Richard. Thought I add more reading material for you. And yes, I was very impressed with grub2. The objections to it when it was first introduced was high, but I understand the reactions as the documentation for it was almost non-existent. And menu.lst is far far easier to modify and still is. I do remember LILO - never did get it to work reliably myself. My first try at Linux wasn't successful because of it as I recall and I had to use Windows at the time because of a course I was taking. As a result I didn't properly adopt Linux until about 3 years ago. Now you wont get me away from it - except at work where I have no choice cos everything is flaming Microsoft! When I get my own company running it will all be Linux and no Windows in sight thankyou! Rich The reason I mentioned LILO is that it is the major reason at that time why people trying out linux just gave up. I too almost invariably end up with a blinking cursor on a dark screen for any new installation. With grub-legacy, it is much better but with systems with more than 1 hard disk, it's usually a guessing game when modifying the menu.lst to try to boot. That's why people need to modify it continually. And when booting to external disk, it is always (hd0,1) and of course, that is in grub-speak, the first partition of the hard disk, never the external, and will not boot unless the menu.lst gets modified again. Just glad to talk to someone who understands. Regards and take care - Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Grub Install Bug @Lubuntu-10.04 (Distribution Release)
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:12:35 +0100 Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Goh, I'm not quite sure how to explain this to you? Rule #1 You install *buntu it works, if it does not work it does not break anything. At present it can totally break things. There is no point arguing over it, just go see the forum area for people for whom it has broken there is no point saying that it is does not, as there are a lot of people saying that it does. The problems with grub2 and Win7 were bad enough under the 'older' grub2. You do not seem to have read through that thread fully some links to read, Phillip, have read your links above. To add, there are some problems not in your links related to Dell's recovery system, raid, lvm and others...but not to denigrate your specific issue which is the failure to install by install grub-pc and you have found success by sudo apt-get install grub-pc; yes, you're right, I cannot see the point arguing that it should just work with install grub-pc and not just sudo apt-get install grub-pc. You do not seem to have read how to use 'sudo' and 'apt-get' rather than understanding how to install grub. Are there any more specific issues with grub you like to bring up rather than saying I haven't read fully? Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Grub Install Bug @Lubuntu-10.04 (Distribution Release)
On 06/27/2010 03:33 PM, Phillip Whiteside wrote: hi Goh, yes, there is, it is *not* a dell issue, as is clearly explained, also the work around for a bug that one of the devs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/496435/comments/6 says is not fully tested, the consensus of those who are dealing with problems over at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1516153 is still to use still to use dpkg-reconfigure and not apt-get etc. First, alpha versions are not for Newbies, these are for people who are helping to test and report bugs. Problems with alpha's are to be expected. People are always reminded non-final releases are not meant for production and tend to break. So if someone complains his alpha version is buggy and the developers are not doing their job, you know where they should be told to go. I'm awaiting the guy who writes up a lot of documentation that we mere mortals use to refer to in order to have a chat with him, I have a strong sense that he will also shrug his shoulders and say that the grub team have messed up (again) and to continue to use the dpkg-reconfigure option. I recall that grub2 came out and totally broke RAID support. They have been playing catch up ever since. Given the chance, I'd use burg as it is more pro-active and re-active to problems. I really do not know why we are arguing over this? Grub 2 can cause major problems when there is more than one hard disk involved - that is beyond dispute. In 9.10 it cannot support RAID, with 10.04 we got a newer version that gave some RAID support, but they would not back port it, when 10.04 came out it had a big fall out with Win7. - that is still a 'work around'. Raid/LVM issues are settled as of... http://grub.enbug.org/LVMandRAID and can't you do a simple grub-install --root-directory=. (with sudo of course) instead as 'backport'? Such a basic part of *nix should not need 'work-arounds', n00bs will not that there is one - It must be sorted out. Should not we be trying to help the OP, it is quite evident there is a problem and people get annoyed over having their computer in a non booting mode? Regardless of any sleek looking graphics, let us not fall into the trap that Microsoft did with Service Pack 2 for XP. When we do tempt people over to *nix, if their first introduction to it is a broken system they will not only never come back, they will tell everyone that *nix breaks computers. That is not acceptable, we are in the hands of the Grub people - so people should complain there and we should ensure that people asking why lubuntu does not work in such situations are clearly told that it is not a fault of lubuntu. Yes, we should always try to help anyone who needs help. Even with people on maverick alpha #one#. (That's where it's at, my goodness). But to have a problem and to lash out is not acceptable, even with final released versions. Phillip, if you are the 'philinux' at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1516153 you should be in a position to understand this more than others. I am surprised that this needs even be mentioned. If you are not, then I reiterate some basic points o Alpha versions are not meant for production, and tend to break. It is *not* recommended for 'normal' use but experienced users are welcome to *test* and report any bugs. Bear in mind it may render the whole system unusable and a complete reinstall may be necessary. o A basic code of conduct on *ubuntu's mailing list can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct I suggest a reread and adherence to it. o This mailing list is to ask for help and to provide it. Not to rant, troll or ... Phillip, or Quynh, again, is there any specific grub issue affecting you that you want addressed? I may not have all the answers and perhaps a bug report may indeed needed be filed, but what is it that needs to be brought up? Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Grub Install Bug @Lubuntu-10.04 (Distribution Release)
On 06/27/2010 04:39 PM, Goh Lip wrote: On 06/27/2010 03:33 PM, Phillip Whiteside wrote: hi Goh, yes, there is, it is *not* a dell issue, as is clearly explained, also the work around for a bug that one of the devs A small point not included in my previous post, it is resolved by removing Dell DataSafe , refer https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/482757 But then again, I wonder why are we talking about this? Is it affecting you? Are you bringing up all these issues to justify why grub is unusable to the majority of users? That you want to to remove it? Use burg? LILO, anyone? Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Grub Install Bug @Lubuntu-10.04 (Distribution Release)
On 06/27/2010 09:30 PM, Andrew Woodhead wrote: I'd just like to add one thing that EVERYBODY is forgettin GRUB IS NOT THE *ONLY* BOOTLOADER Try LILO, It is a perfectly fine bootloader, or am I just thinking outside the box here and being too radical. Just because Grub is default in Ubuntu doesn't mean it is the best solution. You could also try BURG -Andy Good luck? Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Grub Install Bug @Lubuntu-10.04 (Distribution Release)
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 09:57:05 +0700 Quynh Vu Do vdqu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, 2010/6/27 Goh Lip g@gmx.com On 06/27/2010 01:57 AM, Mario Behling wrote: Dear all, forwarded a bug report below. Best, Mario 1. After normally ended Installation Process, my PC has the MBR on FIRST HDD (!!!), but I _use not_ this device for installation Lubintu, not use it completely! 2. On my PC cannot be starts none PS' File Systems without having as plugged External Devices because MBD find it and stooped without this External HDD or SDD. It has black screen only and display Diagnostic Message on this situation. Mario, did not see the OP (abnormal) post on this list. But from what I gather, he has installed the grub to the external disk. Naturally, there is no way the system be able to boot this up. It's the contray I think. This is a common mistake when you install Ubuntu to a USB device because by default Grub is installed to the first hard disk (/dev/sda). Ont he last screen of the installation process you need to click on the Advanced button and select the place where Grub should be installed and -in case of installation to an USB drive, you should choose that USB drive (eg /dev/sdb). In this case you can use that USB device to boot any computer. Failing to do that (i.e. using the default of /dev/sda), you'll need the USB device plugged in the computer for Grub to start (otherwise it will display an error). You can of course re-install Grub on the first hard disk if you want to get rid of the necessity to have the USB device plugged in in order to boot the computer from the (internal) first hard disk. I learned this from several mistakes in the past. I also read somewhere that it's safer to disconnect the internal hard drive before installing to a USB device so that you don't get mixed between hard disks. Regards -- Vu Do Quynh (M.) Hanoi, Vietnam Quynh, first, please read my post on the Lubuntu mailing list. http://www.mail-archive.com/lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net/msg01347.html I understand what you say and I know it is a very common issue with people installing OS on the thumb. I add this is more a problem with grub legacy as the (hd0,x) and /dev/sdax will change with every boot - the change effected by the bios, not the OS.It is less a problem with grub2 as the boot searches for uuid. However, if the grub is installed at the external drive, and in my opinion, is a fatal thing to do, there is every possibility of the system not booting up. Also, the existence of a bug report does not imply there is anything intrinsically wrong with it, but could be the result of the implementation of the installation, in this case, the setting up of the grub of the external disk to the mbr (sda, in our lingo) of the hard disk. Again, this must not be done and the fault, if we can call it that, of the developers, is to enable it by default. But then, how can the system recognize that the grub is from the external and not the hard disk and that should be the default if setting grub of a hard disk partition? So to call the developers stupid is in my mind, unjustified, crass and stupid in itself. Not understanding the way it works is no justification for rudeness, and even then, if the developers have indeed make a mistake, and they will, it is bad behaviour of any culture to be rude. Quynh, if there is any specific thing you want to bring up after reading my post, please feel free to address it. As of this message, I do not see any thing specific to address. Regards - Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] gmane.linux.debian.user: Authorization required
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] gmane.linux.debian.user: Authorization required
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 00:47:12 +0800 Goh Lip g@gmx.com wrote: On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:44:07 +0200 Gmane Autoauthorizer Sorry about this.. Take care - Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu gtk
On 06/20/2010 08:21 PM, 神癒礁湖 · Rafael Laguna wrote: Hello boys and girls! I'm developing a GTK theme for the new Lubuntu. I need testers and opinions. There a few bugs in some colours. If you'd like to have it a look... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Incoming/Maverick/LxDesign Thank you. Sorry, Rafael, I don't like the desktop, too much like Kubuntu's Air. Not that I don't like the Air theme, just that I don't like Lubuntu resembling any other OS. Keep the identity unique. Like the icons, though. Regards - Goh Lip ps: sorry that this coming from a design-challenged guy like me. :) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Boot problems with latest kernels
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 04:53:18 +0800, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 14:45:34 -0400 Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm. That thread, which I had read yesterday, said that the problem was with 0.96.1ubuntu3, and that the fixed version is 0.96.1ubuntu4 which is the one I now have installed. The thread also notes that this only applies to the AMD64 version, which I'm *not* using. Ah! I saw the AMD CPU and assumed thatwas the problem. Didn’t realise it only affedted the 64 bit version. I have all the latest updates, unless I should have proposed enabled. There won’t be anything in the proposed repository untill Maverick is released. Just to be clear, your suggestion would be to start over with a clean installation of the alpha-1 Lubuntu? No, what I suggest is that you remove the 2.6.35-4 and 2.6.35-3 kernel-images then do an upgrade or maybe a dist-upgrade. Sorry to be a nuisance about this. Just trying to help out. :) Regards, Bob Bob, not sure if this helps, but from my experience with (Kubuntu) alphas, some packages are disabled upon installation. This is probably due to clash of dependencies. After installation, reinstallation of the said packages *might* proceed and encounter no other problem. However, in most cases the reinstalled media player will not play smoothly. In my case, Kaffeine will 'play nice' only at final release, not even at beta stages. So, in your case, it might help if you remove, preferably purge vlc and see if the new kernels are booted okay. Then reinstall vlc and see if that works. Again, there is this usual warning that pre-final releases are not meant for 'production', likely to break and is mainly for people to help debug and report issues. Also, I am treating Lubuntu in its original intent, namely, as a lean and mean system, so I did not install other 'weighty' packages to it. I have also found another pleasant unintended use of Lubuntu on the usb stick. With gparted and testdisk installed, it makes a much better alternative to troubleshooting and repairing systems than carrying cd's of grub-rescue, gparted, livecd and so on. Impressive... Good luck, Bob. Regards - Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] vmlinuz.old and initrd.img.old
Just wondering, in Lubuntu, syslinks vmlinuz.old and initrd.img.old in '/' were not generated from '/boot' kernels. Is there anything different in Lubuntu's initramfs from the 'normal' ubuntu/kubuntu's? Regards - Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Resolved: vmlinuz.old and initrd.img.old
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 16:26:34 +0800 Goh Lip g@gmx.com wrote: Just wondering, in Lubuntu, syslinks vmlinuz.old and initrd.img.old in '/' were not generated from '/boot' kernels. Is there anything different in Lubuntu's initramfs from the 'normal' ubuntu/kubuntu's? Ah, silly me! I just recalled; there is just one kernel in my Lubuntu. My bad. Mea culpa. Apologies for the noise. Regards - Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] NumLock
I've been trying to find out how to set NumLock upon startup. system is lucid 10.04. Can someone help? Thanks. Regards -Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] NumLock
On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 21:54:27 +0200 神癒礁湖 · Rafael Laguna rafaellag...@gmail.com wrote: Installing the numlockx package should be enough. It would change eveything needed to the X startup. Thanks, Rafael and Steve. Done and working. Regards - Goh Lip -- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] questions about lubuntu-10.04.iso
On Mon, 24 May 2010 13:36:15 +0100 Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: Yeah, if there is enough RAM then (at least the LiveCD) the OS in full can be put into RAM. Disk access is god slow compared to RAM so if we can get the RAM off the slow media then the system will BLAZE as the drive will never be accessed, this will however mean the selected contents of the system due to be in RAM will need copying (either all at once or as it is needed) to the RAM for future use. Puppy has a cheat code to simply copy the OS from the CD in this way and make it incredibly fast, at 80Mb for the ISO this can also be done on old systems and they will run very well. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 1:31 PM, C David Rigby c.david.ri...@gmail.comwrote: On Monday 24,May,2010 08:25 PM, Andrew Woodhead wrote: I'm kinda up for a Run the whole OS in RAM. like puppy has if its THAT small. Who's with me. There is a guide on this which I intend to use in my next system / this laptop if I get bored. To what guide are you referring? Load the OS into a ramdisk? Cheers David On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.dewrote: Am 24.05.2010 07:06, schrieb rya...@mail.com: How much GB of disk space(including swap) does a full install of lubuntu-10.04 use if installing from the lubuntu-10.04.iso CD? 2GB? 3GB? If you have more then 1 GB RAM you don't neccessarly need a SWAP partition. If you don't consider double the RAM size to use for SWAP. Lubuntu uses about 1.5 GB of space right after installation. So the minimum space you need is 2 GB I would say. I recommened 4 to 5 GB to have it running good and be able to install additional software + personal data. Re: Swap... From what I can tell - running, not installing Lubuntu - having a ram of 1 Gb (maybe 512 Mb) or more obviates the need of having swap, (unless for suspend/hibernate). The point about having swap is usually moot. If one is fastidious, create a swap and list it in fstab a size slightly more than ram. Re: Toram.. From what I understand, 'toram' 's utility is loading to ram instead of reading from livecd's. The operative word here is 'cdrom' and the reasoning is the lower read and transfer speed of *cdrom*. Using Lubuntu from a SATA hard drive or from a usb flash drive makes having 'toram' in Lubuntu an unnecessary diversion. Also, I think but I am not sure, toram is already available in casper - that's the livecd boot for Lubuntu, if one wants to use regularly, which is, in any case, unusual other than for testing purposes. DSL use of boot parameter 'dsl=toram' is entered at boot screen for cdrom and is unnecessary for flash boots. Puppy linux surreptitiously creates a partition (albeit small) at the hard drive so that changes can be kept there and transfered to the flash when shutting down and its function is not to speed up its system. It's good to look for things to improve in Lubuntu and I do not want to discourage that, but maybe we should be looking for something else. Regards - Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Installing Lubuntu to usb drives
I've come across many instances (mainly Ubuntu) of people installing the OS to the usb and they are actually running the livecd OS. There are many guides (like penlinux?) and including unetbootin that will install the livecd at the usb drives. There is nothing wrong with that, provided people understand it's the livecd that's running and there are ways to help manually installed appplications 'stick' like casper-rw and the adding of 'persistent' in the kernel line. And puppy linux creates a small partition at the hd to aid that. However, there are obvious disadvantages; the more serious being newer kernels will not be able to be installed and several booting issues as well. I would highly recommend that should you want Lubuntu be installed to a usb stick, *and it's perfect for that*, install it like a normal installation, just that the partition you install to is the usb partition. One important thing to watch out is that at the stage where the installer ask where you want the grub to be installed, please specify the usb drive and never the mbr. Take particular care of the designation of that usb drive (sdb, sdc or sdd) before installation and specify that when asked where grub is to be installed. Note there may be a warning message that installing other to mbr 'is a BAD IDEA'. Nevertheless, proceed. (I understand that this message has been removed, but I cannot verify this). It is a 'BADDER IDEA' to install grub to mbr when /boot is not in the hard drive. To use Lubuntu at the usb drive after installation, at most computers, the keys 'esc', F12', 'F8' will allow you to select the drive to boot up. Older computers may require you to go to bios to do that. Keep that in mind when you take your portable Lubuntu usb drive to other computers. And at your own desktop computer, update-grub of the desktop OS while the Lubuntu usb drive is mounted will enable the desktop OS grub to include your Lubuntu usb drive in the boot menu. Of course running Lubuntu from a SATA hard drive is faster as usb transfer speed is slower. But you may be surprised, as I was, how Lubuntu performs. Ubuntu, Kubuntu ,even the netbook remix, crawls due to the 'bulk' it must carry. Puppy linux, DSL linux do not have the 'polish' of good fonts, codecs, graphics and just plain 'usability'. I brought this up as too many people are installing livecd to the usb drives and I think it's good to set this right especially Lubuntu is just perfect for this. Also, I will appreciate any comment, feedback or disagreement. Regards - Goh Lip -- Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% mortality rate ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Installing Lubuntu to usb drives
On 05/08/2010 05:02 PM, C David Rigby wrote: On Saturday 08,May,2010 04:53 PM, Goh Lip wrote: Hello Goh Lip, I was planning on doing this at some stage (I just installed Lubuntu to my laptop in a separate partition and I am reading up on update-grub right now). I've read that one should NOT allocated a swap space on a USB flash device due to the limited number of re-writes that flash media can support before it degrades. Do you concur with this? Would an Install to USB how-to be a useful addition to our wiki? David, that was fast! I am not a good source for swap and 'swappiness' but from what I know, and others please correct me if I am wrong, the following points hold o when installing an OS to usb drive, the desktop hard drive swap is enabled at the fstab of the usb OS as well. (I verified this). In other words, when using the usb OS at the desktop where it was installed, the swap is automatically enabled due to the presence of the fstab entry, (unless of course the uuid is changed) o For many cases for new computers, the swap is usually zero or close to zero, ie, no need for swap unless extremely high stress applications is run (or more usually, before adobe flash crashes your firefox :) ). The 'newer' uses for swap is for hibernation and sleep and this requires a slightly more memory than your ram memory. o Yes, rewrites will degrade flash and hard drive memory but I think it will require 'petazillions' to do that now that most home users will have no need to worry about that. Having said that, what should you do? Actually, I don't know. ;) But I'll you what I did. With hard drive memory so much now, I allocate a more than enough to my hard drive swap. 2.5 x ram. But my flash? Zilch! And I don't lose any sleep over it. Hope that helps, David. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Installing Lubuntu to usb drives
On 05/08/2010 05:34 PM, C David Rigby wrote: On Saturday 08,May,2010 05:27 PM, Goh Lip wrote: On 05/08/2010 05:02 PM, C David Rigby wrote: On Saturday 08,May,2010 04:53 PM, Goh Lip wrote: I assumed that if I do a manual partitioning of the USB flash drive's storage, I could simply skip allocating swap. The result would be that there would be no fstab entry for swap. I'll try it and find out at some point. I agree with you that my laptop w/ 2 GB RAM is probably not going to need swap with reasonable desktop usage under Lubuntu. My test system back in Singapore w/ 256 MB RAM would probably need it once I have mail, web browser, and a few other apps running. Thanks Goh Lip. Cheers, David Hi, David, just a thought, maybe this might help.. You might want to ensure that your S'pore test system have hard drive swap to a reasonable volumn, say at least 600 Mb. Then change your Lubuntu fstab to include that swap partition so that when running on that test system, it can use that. As you mentioned, there is probably no need for the swap at your laptop. Regards - Goh Lip ps: S'pore still have computers less than 1 Gb ram? Thought they'd all be in Batam by now. :) Buy you a Tiger beer when you're up north. -- Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% mortality rate ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Installing Lubuntu to usb drives
On 05/08/2010 06:02 PM, C David Rigby wrote: And still another option is an actual, small USB hard disk. Prices are lower now for this. They tend to be pretty slow, in my experience. I am running Lubuntu off a 2Gb flash thumb drive! And the (good) thumb drives they are selling here now are at least 4Gb and cost less than Sgd 12. (less than a bottle of Tiger beer) Regards - Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Installed Lubuntu 5 days ago for testing
The following are messages from Keith and Ionnis from the ubuntu-user list. Anyone here wants to handle their messages? Sorry I don't think I am experienced enough in their specific issues to answer them. Suggest you cc to their direct email too as they may not (yet) have registered in the lubuntu mailing list. On 05/06/2010 03:22 AM, Keith Clark wrote: On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 14:18 -0500, Johnny wrote: Hi I installed Lubuntu the computer Processor AMD K6-2 Memory 256 mb HD 10G The video card was detected no problem The sound card was detected ( when playing mp3 sound skips ) Looked at Aqualung web site did some read in the document, all I had to do was from the command line was $aqualung --output oss fixed that from skipping when playing mp3's Problem with icons on the desktop when single clicked the app come up or double clicked 3 to 4 apps comes up Problem with the lxpanel the app icons when single clicked there is 3 to 4 apps comes up at the same time Installed gnome-commander when single click a folder it automatic thanks you double clicked it and for files when single clicked it opens automatically with Abiword I want to choose what app to use for that Installed took about 4 hours from Graphic install thru live CD no error detected on install In all for Lubuntu it runs a little slow I have Debian Lenny LXDE installed on another computer the CPU 450 Ram 256 it runs a lot faster I am still testing Lubuntu Please send this to the Lubuntu team if you would please. Johnny Johnny, Lubuntu has its own mailing list here: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Ioannis Vranos cppdevelo...@ontelecoms.gr wrote Myself tested Lubuntu, both final release and some Beta, however I found an issue with passwords to both. When I entered a two word parssword during installation, it did not work, while it worked with a single word password. I did not check to see how things worked with other passwords, I deleted the installations. -- Ioannis Vranos Regards - Goh Lip ps: Keith, Ionnis, you can register for the lubuntu mailing list at https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Installed Lubuntu 5 days ago for testing
On 05/06/2010 03:57 AM, Goh Lip wrote: The following are messages from Keith and Ionnis from the ubuntu-user list. Anyone here wants to handle their messages? Sorry I don't think I am experienced enough in their specific issues to answer them. Suggest you cc to their direct email too as they may not (yet) have registered in the lubuntu mailing list. On 05/06/2010 03:22 AM, Keith Clark wrote: On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 14:18 -0500, Johnny wrote: Hi I installed Lubuntu the computer Processor AMD K6-2 Memory 256 mb HD 10G The video card was detected no problem The sound card was detected ( when playing mp3 sound skips ) Looked at Aqualung web site did some read in the document, all I had to do was from the command line was $aqualung --output oss fixed that from skipping when playing mp3's Problem with icons on the desktop when single clicked the app come up or double clicked 3 to 4 apps comes up Problem with the lxpanel the app icons when single clicked there is 3 to 4 apps comes up at the same time Installed gnome-commander when single click a folder it automatic thanks you double clicked it and for files when single clicked it opens automatically with Abiword I want to choose what app to use for that Installed took about 4 hours from Graphic install thru live CD no error detected on install In all for Lubuntu it runs a little slow I have Debian Lenny LXDE installed on another computer the CPU 450 Ram 256 it runs a lot faster I am still testing Lubuntu Please send this to the Lubuntu team if you would please. Johnny Johnny, Lubuntu has its own mailing list here: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Ioannis Vranos cppdevelo...@ontelecoms.gr wrote Myself tested Lubuntu, both final release and some Beta, however I found an issue with passwords to both. When I entered a two word parssword during installation, it did not work, while it worked with a single word password. I did not check to see how things worked with other passwords, I deleted the installations. -- Ioannis Vranos Regards - Goh Lip ps: Keith, Ionnis, you can register for the lubuntu mailing list at https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Sorry, the first email is from Johnny linuxhamu...@gmail.com not Keith. Sorry too, Keith. Regrds - Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] main ubuntu forum
On 04/29/2010 03:33 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote: Well, from my part, it was done on purpose. Not advertising too much before having something good enough to test :) It's another reason for not advertising too much. For the What is needed, not much from our part. We need to wait the opening of the development of the next release, to start pinging good persons. Don't worry, it's very high in my TODO list :) Regards, Julien Lavergne Okay, understand. Patience could be a virtue. Good luck on what you're doing. If there's more we could do, drop us a hint. Can't resist one more time Lubuntu has potential! World domination next! :) Regards, take care, thanks - Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Beta 3 Multi-Language
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 17:20:17 +0100 Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: I get the following error when I try to get the torrent file, You don't have permission to access /~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-beta3.iso.torrent on this server. Er, pardon for asking, if I am missing the point...I notice many on this thread are already on Lubuntu Lucid, not beta3, but beta2 or I grant even earlier revisions; won't it be sufficient to just do an update/upgrade? Why the need to download the whole iso? Thanks, again. - Goh Lip -- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Beta 3 Multi-Language
On 04/25/2010 02:36 AM, Steve wrote: On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 19:13:44 +0100, Goh Lip g@gmx.com wrote: Er, pardon for asking, if I am missing the point...I notice many on this thread are already on Lubuntu Lucid, not beta3, but beta2 or I grant even earlier revisions; won't it be sufficient to just do an update/upgrade? Why the need to download the whole iso? Thanks, again. - Goh Lip As most peoples first glimpse of Lubuntu will be from the Live CD and/or a clean install we need to make sure this is working OK and this is the first multi-lingual ISO so that will need testing as well. Also, some of us have also sorts of odds 'n' sods on our installs and need a clean install to make sure we are reporting errors for the correct versions and any advice we give or instructions we are writing are for a default install. Okay, Understood. Since the only addition to my system, besides updates, is adobe flash, I think my updated system from beta2 fresh install would be similar to beta3 fresh install. I'll let pass the fresh install this time round. (I am enjoying myself too much too :) ) Will help to report bugs, if any, whatever way I can. So far the slypheed notes have generated lots of correspondence on the slypheed mailing list (autofill address) long after I've reported it. (not a bug, a 'feature' :) ). I just hope I won't cause unnecessary 'noise' due to my inexperience in Lubuntu too. Thanks - Goh Lip -- Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% mortality rate. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu documentation
In trying to learn more about Lubuntu, especially the commands and applications for it, I find the sources pretty sparse. For example, I am still using 'sudo aptitude update sudo aptitude safe-upgrade' to update Lubuntu and wondering if that is correct. Also while the command 'gksudo leafpad' is given here on the list (thanks), it is difficult to find out other useful commands. The links given on the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu page and other LXDE sites are not too informative either. Of course being a new 'distro', I could understand, but can someone provide more links so that a newbie like me can pick up some speed? Thanks and regards - Goh Lip -- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu documentation
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 16:37:12 +0100 Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: Otherwise Lubuntu is no different to Ubuntu, it just has a different set of default apps and a different default desktop (LXDE instead of Gnome) so any guide you can find on Ubuntu will work. This is the same for KUbuntu which uses KDE instead of Gnome and XUbuntu which uses XFCE instead of Gnome. They are all Ubuntu under the hood. Are there any applications (not on the default install) for Lubuntu on the repositories that is specific to Lubuntu *without* pulling in gnome or kde dependencies which might otherwise bloat the nicely balanced Lubuntu setup? I don't want to get to the Xubuntu situation where additional applications tend to make it as unwieldy as the heavyweights. For example, (I think) I could install Opera, Firefox, Thunderbird, OpenOffice, Konqueror or Knode which I use in Kubuntu and I am familiar with, but (I think) that will make Lubuntu heavier and slower to run, which I don't want to do. Regards - Goh Lip -- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Modifying files in Lubuntu
I need to modify /boot/grub/grub.cfg in lubuntu that I've set up in usb drive. But I found that it is not possible through lubuntu. I had to boot up kubuntu to edit it. What is the equivalent in Lubuntu for 'kdesudo kate' or 'gksudo gedit' ? -- Regards - Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Modifying files in Lubuntu
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:15:16 +0100
Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote:
You do NOT edit the grub.cfg ile. That file is generated using config files
and scripts. You can edit the file but next time:
sudo update-grub
is ran the changes will be completely lost.
Yes, I know. Understood.
LXDE is a GTK based DE so 'gksudo leafpad' is what you will need (you can
install gedit if you like but leafpad is a lot leaner and default in LXDE.
Yes, I am new to LXDE, (I use Kubuntu mainly) and I should try to find out more
about its commands first. Will google and learn more. Thanks for your feedback
though.
If you want your changes to grub.cfg to stick you must either:
1. *Never* upgrade the kernel OR
2. Edit Grub2 the correct way so that grub updates get applied and your
changes stay
The grub.cfg file is marked as read only (even to root) and the file says
Do not edit this file for a reason. I suggest you read:
https://help.*ubuntu*.com/community/*Grub2*
Andrew, besides setting a (previous) grub of hard drive to sda (mbr) and
updating it for to include Lubuntu, I've also set grub to the usb thumb drive
so that it is portable AND bootable from any computer (like what I've done for
all my previous thumb drives, LILO/grub-legacy then though). However, the
parameters are always wrong and needs to be corrected. (not peculiar to
Lubuntu, happens to all); for example, booting from usb drives will always be
(hd0,1) not what was specified (like (hd2,1) or (hd3,1)). and root=/dev/sda
needs to be changed to root=/dev/sdc1 for example. Sometimes it will boot, (but
not always) due to the specified UUID but I like to make sure it ALWAYS boot
wherever the thumb drive is put. So I will modify the grub.cfg by the following
method...
At /etc/grub.d, make a new entry, say 08_mefirst as a custom entry and make it
executable.
I put in the entry
menuentry 'Lubuntu' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
insmod ext2
set root='(hd0,1)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set c25a3c07-99ba-456a-b8f1-54aa427c2d87
linux /vmlinuz root=UUID=c25a3c07-99ba-456a-b8f1-54aa427c2d87 ro
quiet splash
initrd /initrd.img
}
Note the (hd0,1) and that /vmlinuz is not the specified kernel number (so that
it will always be the latest kernel).
I'll leave the 10_linux as is.
Then I'll do the update-grub or grub mk-config -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
Andrew, if you see anything wrong with this, will appreciate your feed back.
Thanks again.
Regards _ Goh Lip
ps: my hard drive grub (grub2) that is set to sda (mbr) is from a separate grub
partition, OS- independent and similarly heavily modified and not affected by
any kernel upgrade of any OS either. (nuke-proof)
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Modifying files in Lubuntu
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:02:47 -0300 Glen Bizeau gbiz...@gmail.com wrote: or the graphical way alt-f2 gksudo leafpad On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Glen Bizeau gbiz...@gmail.com wrote: Open lxterminal sudo vi /boot/grub/grub.cfg Thanks, Glen and Andrew. Got it. Thanks. (and that was fast!) One side note here. Lubuntu is definitely the best distro to set to a usb drive. I find Ubuntu (and Kubuntu) Netbook Remix to be not suitable for usb installation as the transfer speed from usb is far too slow to be any.er, fun. Puppy and dsl linux is too skeletal to be of any.. er, use. (try installing flash; fonts horrible). I used to carry dsl thumbs for my extensive travels some time back. (lab tops were too heavy then). Tried Lubuntu install to usb just to test. I am impressed. The choice of applications is good, with slypheed now with newsgroup capability. Kudos to the Lubuntu team. Great job. Any possibility to 'port' the mailing list to gmane newsgroup? Would be very handy. Andrew, I will reply to your post separately about modifying grub.cfg. Thanks for your input. Regards and Thanks _ Goh Lip -- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Modifying files in Lubuntu
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 16:23:15 +0100 Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hi, do you mind if i use your comment of lubuntu here -- forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18t=73 I always strip out the name of the person. Thanks, Phill. P.S. I love lubuntu as well :-) Sure thing Phil, hope this helps. I am mostly at Lubuntu now, (on the thumb drive!) though I have Kubuntu Hardy, Lucid on hard drive install. awesome! Regards, take care - Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Slypheed
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 23:50:01 +0800 Goh Lip g@gmx.com wrote: On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:43:07 +0400 Mike Nokel mno...@gmail.com wrote: Instead of typing here about sylpheed you may see TODO-list designed for its developers: http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/todo.html There are a lot of more features to improve/add than you specified. It is not a problem of lubuntu team, by the way. Okay, will do, understood. Thanks for the link. I did not see the 2 issues on the ToDo list, so I've registered and sent message on mailing list. Is there a bug-report for Slypheed I should send to instead? Also, is it just me or are you also having these problems too? If it is just me, I don't mind reinstalling slypheed. ps: I don't read japanese. Regards _ Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Slypheed
I did not see the 2 issues on the ToDo list, so I've registered and sent message on mailing list. Is there a bug-report for Slypheed I should send to instead? Also, is it just me or are you also having these problems too? If it is just me, I don't mind reinstalling slypheed. ps: I don't read japanese. I restarted slypheed and Voila!, the 'reply to mailing list' now works. Sorry for the noise, guys, should teach me not to go 'shooting off the hip' and need to recheck and verify first. Apologies to all. Regards - Goh Lip -- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Slypheed
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 01:20:14 +0800 Goh Lip g@gmx.com wrote: ps: but now, I've to reply to all to get the lubuntu mailing list on it. :( I noticed that when there is an attachment, usually of a html nature, the reply to mailing list' will be sent to the sender and not to the mailing list. However, if the sender uses only plain text, then 'send to mailing list' will work. Just need to watch out for it. Regards - Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
