Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] This mailing list will be closed SOON !
Where to suscribe to the new list? -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lubuntu-wiki-docs] LSC and Dependencies Talk
2/1/16 ∅ maps.backw...@gmail.com On 01/16/2012 01:39 AM, Gabriel Salles wrote: *It would be nice if the Lubuntu software centre let the user know which packages were also going to be installed, and also if somehow it could tell the user if the package isn't really designed to go with Lubuntu.* I didn't understand. Here, LSC shows all the packages that are going to be installed with the main software. As I read it, it sounds like some users can't translate that into the answer to the question will this work with my resource-limited machine? *However, is there a reason why non-Lubuntu-approved apps are are in the LUBUNTU Software Center? Somehow that doesn't make sense to me.* I believe that all the softwares avaiable to Ubuntu needs to be avaiable to Lubuntu. The user needs to have the freedom to decide what he will install. But then we have another Synaptic? What's the point to that? Maybe I misunderstood the value of LSC but I thought of it as the catalog of Lubuntu-friendly apps. When you want to answer the question of what's the lightweight package for [blank]? that's where you go. If you don't care if it's lightweight or you don't get what you want in LSC, then you try Synaptic/apt/aptitude. Doesn't that make sense? wxl/walter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Who would decide what app is right for Lubuntu? That's completely relative to your specs machine. On my old laptop (a 11 years old pentium 3) i've never found an app that doesn't run well under Lubuntu... except of course apps REALLY HEAVY, but that ones run just the same on any system. What I like very much about Lubuntu is that it runs everything i throw at it, without complains :) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Some little tweaks by default
Done: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-default-settings/+bug/915615 -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Some little tweaks by default
Hi all :) I would like to propose some little configurations to come by default in lubuntu: Audacious: activate Desktop Notifications (for 3.0 and above) and Global Hotkey for multimedia keys! Chromium: make the gtk theme the default theme instead of that ugly blue that does not fit with lubuntu I think it would improve the user experience and would make lubuntu more user-friendly evecandy :) -- Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Integrate obkey (or the like)?
El 28/12/11 15:43, A. Andjelkovic escribió: Interesting find, doesn't look very user friendly though (I've only watched the screencast, looked weird to me). That vs nothing i prefer that :) -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Viewnior?
Will Viewnior be the default image viewer in 12.04 ? In 11.04 and 11.10 it's not in the repos... -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Super Key
Pressing the Super key should show the start menu in 11.10 normally. I'm not getting this behaviour on my lubuntu laptop :( Is this a bug or i'm the only one with this issue? -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] About Xscreensaver
It has been pointed in the past, that for old machines Xcreensaver makes everything sluggish (i can make proof of it because some installations of Lubuntu have crashed because it tries to launch xcreensaver and everything falls apart AND in my pentium 3 @1000mhz the first thing i cut is the screensaver because it slows the whole system) If I remember correctly, drop xcreensaver was a bad idea just for the blocking screen. I've been using a little Ubuntu 11.10 and I'm wondering if they still use a screensaver at all. Maybe they are using something different just to block the screen? If yes, maybe we could use the same thing and cut xcreensaver from Lubuntu. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Wubi on 12.04
One thing I would like to see in Lubuntu, is the presence of Wubi. I've wanted to show some friend/familiars/co-workers how Lubuntu rocks but the only way i get is by livecd... and they want to try it a little :) Wubi is a GREAT option for a lot of people (myself included since i have only one hard drive and original windows is installed on it ;) Is this possible? -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] How LSC works?
One thing I need often is the presence of Lame on my system. So, i go to LSC to install lame but can't see it!! I go to USC to verify and i come to realize that the same search parameter returns different things... (just try lame in LSC and USC to see it ;) I'm guessing that this happens with other searches too. My point is: LSC should show the same apps that USC with the same search parameters, right? -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Idea for i586
First, don't kill me for bringing back this topic ;) Since Lubuntu is official, maybe the cause for dropping i586 is obsolete (if I remember right it was because none of the flavours could run in it, so there was no market there). Aditionally, there's the fact that LTS are the less demanding resource releases :) (experieced by me with 8.04 and 10.04) Maybe we could ask nicely, together with Xubuntu, that at least for the LTS *ubuntu could exist for i586... I doesn't sound completely crazy to me. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Users
2011/12/17 Gabriel Salles gabrielper...@gmail.com Companies, universities, etc. will have a local repo or cache and only download the update once for thousands of machines. Even some home users do this if they have few machines. Off topic, but just to know, can you point me on how to do that? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: [lubuntu newsletter] lubuntu 10.10 released
Got this a few hours ago... any thoughts about it?? NOTE: LUBUNTU 10.10 !! Mensaje original Asunto: [lubuntu newsletter] lubuntu 10.10 released Fecha: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 04:12:57 + De: lubuntu lubu...@lxde.org LUBUNTU 10.10 RELEASED -- Taipei/Berlin/Paris, Oct. 10, 2010: Following intensive development Julien Lavergne, developement lead of lubuntu, announced version 10.10 of the lightweight desktop on October 10, 2010. lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and energy saving Ubuntu variant using LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. It includes a special selection of light applications combining easy usability and performance. lubuntu is targeted at normal PC users running on low-spec hardware. Improvements of the latest lubuntu version include autologin support in ubiquity, support of install only mode in ubiquity, support for lubuntu-restricted package in ubiquity. lubuntu 10.10 comes with a completely new theme by Rafael Laguna. Lxpanel now supports Ubuntu indicators applets. Added applications and tools are Update-notifier, to get notification for available updates, Xpad, to create quick notes and Ace-of-penguins, to provide some games. Parcellite, which is not maintained upstream, was removed and Pyneighborhood was replaced by gvfs support of pcmanfm. LXtask replaces Xfce4-taskmanager for tasks monitoring. Evince is now used for reading PDF. During new installations a slideshow now describes features of the system. Minimum requirements for lubuntu are comparable to Pentium II or Celeron systems with a 128 Mb RAM configuration, which may yield a slow yet usable system with lubuntu. lubuntu features lightweight design work, faster boot speed and a smart choice of applications aimed at keeping resource usage low. The standard web browser is Chromium, the open-source version of Google Chrome. Besides speed the lubuntu team aims to offer the best possible compromise for new users offering easy to use application. While lubuntu is developed with the end user in mind, its lightweight approach also makes it attractive to corporate users focusing on faster completion of tasks. Applications included are Sylpheed as e-mail client, Openbox as window manager, the file manager PCManFM, GPicView Image Viewer, Transmission for Bittorrent, Gnumeric for spreadsheets and Abiword for word processing. A new meta-package (lubuntu-core) is available to install only core packages of Lubuntu. A new meta-package (lubuntu-restricted-extras) is available to install restricted packages for Lubuntu (such as flash, java and extra codecs for chromium). Additional applications are available through the packaging installation system Synaptic from Ubuntu repositories. Features of lubuntu 10.10: * Faster boot speed through integration of lxdm, LXDE display manager * Low usage of system resources through Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment * Lower energy-consumption * Access to software repository through Synaptic software manager Images for press use are available on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing Availability lubuntu 10.10 is entirely free of charge available for download from http://lubuntu.net. Useful links: * How to install lubuntu:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Install%20Lubuntu * How to upgrade from Ubuntu to lubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp About LXDE LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment is an extremely fast-performing and energy-saving desktop environment. Started by Hong Yen Jee known under his nick name PCMan, in Taiwan in 2005, LXDE is today maintained by an international community of developers. It comes with a beautiful interface, multi-language support, standard keyboard short cuts and additional features like tabbed file browsing. LXDE uses less CPU and less RAM than other environments. It is especially designed for cloud computers with low hardware specifications, such as, netbooks, mobile devices (e.g. MIDs) or older computers. LXDE can be installed with many Linux distributions. It is the standard for Knoppix and lubuntu and it also runs with BSD. LXDE provides a fast desktop experience; connecting easily with applications in the cloud and supporting a wealth of programs that can be installed locally with Linux systems. The source code of LXDE is licensed partly under the terms of the the General Public License and partly under the LGPL. The website can be accessed under http://lxde.org. About lubuntu lubuntu was founded after a meeting with Mark Shuttleworth in Berlin during the Ubuntu Developer Sprint in February 2009 (Source: http://blog.lxde.org/?p=208). The desktop is currently among the top distributions on the page rank hit on distrowatch (http://distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=1). Important Contributors Julien Lavergne (Head of development lubuntu, France) Hong Yen Jee aka PCMan (Head of LXDE project, Taiwan) Mario Behling (lubuntu
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: [lubuntu newsletter] lubuntu 10.10 released
El 30/11/11 13:15, 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) escribió: WUT? Exactly my reaction!! 2011/11/30 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com Got this a few hours ago... any thoughts about it?? NOTE: LUBUNTU 10.10 !! Mensaje original Asunto: [lubuntu newsletter] lubuntu 10.10 released Fecha: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 04:12:57 + De: lubuntu lubu...@lxde.org LUBUNTU 10.10 RELEASED -- Taipei/Berlin/Paris, Oct. 10, 2010: Following intensive development Julien Lavergne, developement lead of lubuntu, announced version 10.10 of the lightweight desktop on October 10, 2010. lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and energy saving Ubuntu variant using LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. It includes a special selection of light applications combining easy usability and performance. lubuntu is targeted at "normal" PC users running on low-spec hardware. Improvements of the latest lubuntu version include autologin support in ubiquity, support of install only mode in ubiquity, support for lubuntu-restricted package in ubiquity. lubuntu 10.10 comes with a completely new theme by Rafael Laguna. Lxpanel now supports Ubuntu indicators applets. Added applications and tools are Update-notifier, to get notification for available updates, Xpad, to create quick notes and Ace-of-penguins, to provide some games. Parcellite, which is not maintained upstream, was removed and Pyneighborhood was replaced by gvfs support of pcmanfm. LXtask replaces Xfce4-taskmanager for tasks monitoring. Evince is now used for reading PDF. During new installations a slideshow now describes features of the system. Minimum requirements for lubuntu are comparable to Pentium II or Celeron systems with a 128 Mb RAM configuration, which may yield a slow yet usable system with lubuntu. lubuntu features lightweight design work, faster boot speed and a smart choice of applications aimed at keeping resource usage low. The standard web browser is Chromium, the open-source version of Google Chrome. Besides speed the lubuntu team aims to offer the best possible compromise for new users offering easy to use application. While lubuntu is developed with the end user in mind, its lightweight approach also makes it attractive to corporate users focusing on faster completion of tasks. Applications included are Sylpheed as e-mail client, Openbox as window manager, the file manager PCManFM, GPicView Image Viewer, Transmission for Bittorrent, Gnumeric for spreadsheets and Abiword for word processing. A new meta-package (lubuntu-core) is available to install only core packages of Lubuntu. A new meta-package (lubuntu-restricted-extras) is available to install restricted packages for Lubuntu (such as flash, java and extra codecs for chromium). Additional applications are available through the packaging installation system Synaptic from Ubuntu repositories. Features of lubuntu 10.10: * Faster boot speed through integration of lxdm, LXDE display manager * Low usage of system resources through Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment * Lower energy-consumption * Access to software repository through Synaptic software manager Images for press use are available on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing Availability lubuntu 10.10 is entirely free of charge available for download from http://lubuntu.net. Useful links: * How to install lubuntu:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Install%20Lubuntu * How to upgrade from Ubuntu to lubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp About LXDE LXDE, the "Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment" is an extremely fast-performing and energy-saving desktop environment. Started by Hong Yen Jee known under his nick name PCMan, in Taiwan in 2005, LXDE is today maintained by an international community of developers. It comes with a beautiful interface, multi-language support, standard keyboard short cuts and additional features like tabbed file browsing. LXDE uses less CPU and less RAM than other environments. It is especiall
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LxScreenshot update
Could exist an option to make lxscreenshot behave as before?? It was quite helpful to take a series of screenshots quickly :) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin
I would like to do some tests with the latest ubuntu on my old amd-k6 (wich runs Lubuntu 10.04 perfectly) but support for that CPU it's been dropped :( Then again, it's NOT only for the people who have a voice here: it's the users that have one of those pc wich want to use it and CAN'T It's a shame that an OS intended for old hardware can't run on hardware that can run it :( EVEN if it's 5% of the target machines... 5% of a huge number is still a huge number. Plus, there's no modern OS that can run there... OK, *maybe* some very oldl machines should be renewed... but there are people without the capability of doing so. AND i don't understand, the code is there... what's the benefit of cutting it? Just what i think about dropping support of any hardware. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin
Last year they dropped support for a lot of machines, now they will drop for a lot more? What are the exact benefits of dropping all of that? Lubuntu is aimed to be fast, but it's able to resurrect those old hardware so: what will be the the future for those old machines in the near future? Support for those machines is NOT a waste of space or code, since Lubuntu can handle them :) -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-list] LXDE Forum
Seeing it from Chile, with a fast connection... and it's slow! ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-list] LXDE Forum
Seeing it from Chile, with a fast connection... and it's slow! ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
2011/11/8 amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com Guys, I was wondering if someone has noticed that LXTask actually shows +100MB usage more than System Monitor and Conky so what is going on? I have System Monitor installed on Lubutnu 11.04 (was testing something) and Conky as well. While each of System Monitor (GNOME APP) and Conky are showing the same memory usage, LXTask add *100MB* to that. Example: System Monitor + Conky shows 287MB while Firefox Loaded with two tabs. On the other hand, LXTask shows 387MB. Any idea? I have similar issue when lubuntu is installed alongside with ubuntu :/ ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
I don't know if this is correct, but I'm a little concerned for if the machines will support the test? We're talking about Pentium 3 4 and 256 to 512 ram. Ps: Ali, on my new machine i have ubuntu with lubuntu-desktop installed... readings of both monitors are different, that's what i was telling you :) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
Proposal for browser benchmarks: - First of all, run the browsers without any add-on - Take starts time - Watch lxtask for memory usage cpu. Inside Chromium about:memory shows the memory used by each browser running too. Htop? - Watch the general behaviour - Sites: youtube, gmail, google, facebook, ubuntu forums (each alone, by groups of two, three, four and finally five - I don't think that old machines could support easily more than 5 tabs opened!) Let me know if this is enough, what else should be added or if i'm just talking nonsenses here :P -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
If it's a vote... i would keep chromium. I always keep both browsers just in case, but my benchmarks on my old pentium 3 can't tell any real difference with just one tab opened. Start time, firefox seems a little bit slower to start. I'll run some benchmarks in the next days in the following machine: 1000mhz, 512ram (Pentium3). Still, you should take a look at the dependencies too... my guess is that we should keep chromium in this case (i believe that firefox installs some nautilus stuff) Ps: when it will be ready we could try Midori (it's the faster browser i can try on my old machine!). But really... when it will be *ready* to use!! El 05-11-2011 11:11, James Gifford escribió: I'm one of the target audiences for Lubuntu, mainly that of the underpowered netbook user. In my experience, Chromium is faster, until you start having a ton (read: 4-10) tabs open. At that point, Firefox starts to be better. Just my two cents. Cheers, James Gifford On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Stefanoeco.st...@fastwebnet.it wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:47:26 +0100 A. Andjelkovicandjelko...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to bring up the discussion about replacing Chromium with Firefox in 12.04. I'm not sure if this was discussed on UDS, but in my opinion, this is worth looking into. Firefox has reduced it's memory usage dramatically, and I'm currently trying out Firefox 7 as a replacement. I do not have detailed memory benchmarks (yet!), but I will definitely do some benchmarks in the near future. However, I'm pretty sure Firefox has better (lower) memory usage when having several tabs open (more than 3). Other reasons to switch: GTK3 Better desktop integration (Chromium themeing is limited and hard to include as default) What do you guys think? +1, i love firefox, chromium is too much for dummies ;-) -- Stefanoeco.st...@fastwebnet.it ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
In fact Midori is lighweight... but it crash just too often. That's what i mean by ready to use 2011/11/5 James Gifford ja...@jamesrgifford.com In fact, if we were really looking for a lightweight browser, might I suggest Midori?[1] It's a Webkit based browser, very lightweight on CPU/RAM. Cheers, James Gifford [1] https://launchpad.net/midori On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Hùng Trần nguyentieu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I prefer Chromium, it's good on old machine. Firefox is almost useless on my 256MB RAM laptop. Regards, TRẦN Duy Hùng http://www.nguyentieuhau.com/ On 5 November 2011 22:11, James Gifford ja...@jamesrgifford.com wrote: I'm one of the target audiences for Lubuntu, mainly that of the underpowered netbook user. In my experience, Chromium is faster, until you start having a ton (read: 4-10) tabs open. At that point, Firefox starts to be better. Just my two cents. Cheers, James Gifford On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Stefano eco.st...@fastwebnet.it wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 15:47:26 +0100 A. Andjelkovic andjelko...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to bring up the discussion about replacing Chromium with Firefox in 12.04. I'm not sure if this was discussed on UDS, but in my opinion, this is worth looking into. Firefox has reduced it's memory usage dramatically, and I'm currently trying out Firefox 7 as a replacement. I do not have detailed memory benchmarks (yet!), but I will definitely do some benchmarks in the near future. However, I'm pretty sure Firefox has better (lower) memory usage when having several tabs open (more than 3). Other reasons to switch: GTK3 Better desktop integration (Chromium themeing is limited and hard to include as default) What do you guys think? +1, i love firefox, chromium is too much for dummies ;-) -- Stefano eco.st...@fastwebnet.it ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- jpxsat Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset Club de Campo y Hostal Los Pequenes http://www.lospequenes.cl Departamento de Informática y Publicidad Celular: +56 9 8-548.38.00 // Fono: +56 72 66.81.42 Je@n-Pie®®e Vidal Piesset http://www.facebook.com/jpxsat Fono: +56 72 66.81.42 // Celular 09 8-548.38.00 jpxsat http://lahistoriadeuncompaq1700.blogspot.com/ // Linux user #522.597 // Ubuntu user #29.157 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [12.04] Firefox instead of Chromium?
Arora is QT based... so i don't think lubuntu will ever adopt it :( ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Virtual Keyboard ?
Here's the output of sudo apt-get install xvkbd: The following extra packages will be installed: xaw3dg The following NEW packages will be installed: xaw3dg xvkbd 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 239 kB of archives. After this operation, 840 kB of additional disk space will be used. Task manager says the consumption is about 2,1 MB of RAM :) Maybe it could be included in 12.04 ?? -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Virtual Keyboard ?
Hi. Is there any plans to include a virtual keyboard for tablets and similars? Would be very nice. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] System won't boot in 11.10
2011/10/15 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com Le 10/14/2011 08:00 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit : Sorry, sudo start lxdm says lxdm/running, process 3228 Here's a brief of what startx sends: (EE) failed to load module fglrx (module does not exist, 0) (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported (EE) Radeon(0): Chipset: SUMO (ChipID=0x9641) requires KMS (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration Fatal server error: no screens found. Could you try to boot again the Live-CD, press F6 on the splash screen, check nomodeset, and boot ? The results above are the product of this: - start the livecd with nomodeset checked - typing startx in the line commands (X doesn't load :( ) Should I create a bug in X? graphic drivers? where...? -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] System won't boot in 11.10
First of all tell us if it is a installed system or a live cd. It is a live CD, i'm not able to install Lubuntu (nor Ubuntu) on that machine (on my other 4 machines it works :) Because when its a live cd than its definitely a bug, because it should not even try to load fglrx as it is proprietary and needs to be installed with jockey-gtk. Strange in deed! Please also take a look into /var/log/Xorg.0.log and tell us whats in there. Pieces of that: (EE) failed to load module fglrx (module does not exist, 0) (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported (EE) Radeon(0): Chipset: SUMO (ChipID=0x9641) requires KMS (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration Fatal server error: no screens found. You also need the output of that file if you want to report an error. I'll take a look at the commands to send the log file to a flash drive and send it here :) (Maybe I'll need some help with that...) -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 11.10 Experience
Well, here's my apreciation: the performance has taken a significant hit. My old laptop (PIII with 256MB Ram) was suffering with the ram consumtion in 11.04 (starting the system hits the 120MB of Ram). So, i've installed 11.10 and oh surprise! with pidgin and xpad running the consumption is less than 80MB of Ram!! (74 to be exact). Opening Chromium and the Ram is in 115 - less than 11.04 running alone. IMO, 11.10 boots slower Can't agree, since the boot for me is incredibly fast (less than 30 seconds). But i've read that 11.10 in general boots slower than previous releases, so it's not a lubuntu-only problem. seems to lag on any screen click Maybe you should try to change the theme :) I'm very sorry to tell, but there's something with the theme in this release too, that makes the flying over menus a little hard. I've switch to clearlooks and gained a little of speed. The perfect example is to use mtpaint with the default theme... it's quite a pain. Takes longer to launch applications Can't see any real difference there. I must agree with Rob that the whole system seems to be slow (i'm comparing it to 10.04 that on my old laptop was fast as the lightning) , even if the Ram consumption has became less than ever. But i'm testing it on a more than 10 years old piece of hardware! But hey Rob, just try the other flavors of ubuntu... Ubuntu barelly runs on my other machines (lots newer than my old laptop). So I'm guessing that Lubuntu gets his job done: it's the fastest *buntu in the market :) -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] System won't boot in 11.10
El 14-10-2011 7:15, Andrew Woodhead escribió:
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
jpx...@gmail.com mailto:jpx...@gmail.com wrote:
The screen turns off after showing the menu try lubuntu,
install lubuntu, ...
What GPU do you use?
Did you MD5 test the ISO you burned and did you burn as slowly as
possible?
The MD5 test is correct on both Lubuntu Ubuntu discs, both
burned as slowly as possible. The hardware is a quad core with
dual graphics (i know is far from lubuntu target, but i love
lubuntu... what can i do!) an A8 AMD with an AMD Radeon HD 6620G.
In 11.04 it works... :'(
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Oh one of those Intel + Ati things?
A Samung to be exact, the model is 305V4A/305V5A (it came to replace my
old Compaq 1700).
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Time of this report: 10/14/2011, 07:54:12
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] System won't boot in 11.10
El 14-10-2011 11:40, Julien Lavergne escribió: Le 10/14/2011 03:55 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit : Lance: thank you! after setting the boot with nomodeset at last i see my Lubuntu splashcreen (even if it's the plymouth text-mode). No errors were found when checking the disk for deffects... Now i see ubuntu@ubuntu:-$ and type sudo lxdm to start the session and it doesn't work... in the other machines i tried this it does... Oh, i forgot to say i'm using the 64bit version. Hum, it seems that the graphical card have a problem with modesetting (good catch Lance :)). But at least you should be able to start with sudo start lxdm. Any errors when running this command ? Or could you try startx to see if the session start ? Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Yeah, the first command (sudo start lxdm) says that lxdm is already running. startx sends to me a lot of things, saying that X can't start, that DKMS something or I don't know... the log is stored in somewhere but since it's terminal i don't know how to extract that file. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] System won't boot in 11.10
I'm really sorry for starting the bad news. I have a NP305V4A-S01 and in 11.04 it worked... now in 11.10 i can't even see the Lubuntu (plymouth); the screen just turns off but it seems that everything is still running. I tried the same CD in other machines and everything works perfect (i have to type sudo lxdm though). The good news is that after that i tried to install Ubuntu and didn't worked neither... Any idea where I can post this bug? -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] System won't boot in 11.10
2011/10/13 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com Le 10/13/2011 06:00 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit : I'm really sorry for starting the bad news. I have a NP305V4A-S01 and in 11.04 it worked... now in 11.10 i can't even see the Lubuntu (plymouth); the screen just turns off but it seems that everything is still running. You mean the ISO doesn't boot, or the system installed doesn't boot ? Do you try to install with an alternate ISO ? Regards, Julien Lavergne The screen turns off after showing the menu try lubuntu, install lubuntu, ... This problems affects at least the ISO (don't know if the installed system behave like this since i can't install it). The same disk works since i'm using it in another machine with the livecd :) (tested in three machines total) The Ubuntu disk behaves exactly the same way. Driver problem? -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Extend desktop across dual monitors -- a feature I would like to see in Lubuntu 12.xx
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:13 AM, PCMan pcman...@gmail.com mailto:pcman...@gmail.com wrote: Multi-monitor support is a long standing issue. Here I'd like to ask everyone. How should a muli-monior desktop bahave? For the desktop panel: 1. one panel per monitor, configured separately 2. one panel exending to the external monitor 3. one panel staying on main monitor, no panel on the external one 4. one panel exending to the external monitor, but have the most important panel applets on the main monitor, and the rest on the external monitor 5. Other possibilities... For the desktop icons manager, options are: 1. icons on main monitor only. 2. some icons on main monitor, others on the external monitors. (Then how to handle icon rearrangement when the external monitor is disconnected?) 3. others... For wallpaper: 1. one wallpaper per monitor 2. one wallpaper extending to all monitors 3. others... I woud vote for: - one panel staying on main monitor, no panel on the external one - icons on main monitor only. - for the wallpaper i think this should be configurable, but blank by default -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Use xcompmgr in Lubuntu
I did some adventuring with xcompmgr too a while ago, and it was almost like if it was not there with the apropriate configuration (on a 730mhz machine with 512 ram) but when i watched the log, just like rafael said, there was a lot of bugs, plus chromium doesn't like this app at all last time i checked. Searching a little bit i can confirm (2 months ago) xcompmgr is not maintained since long time. And for using a composite manager we need a nice front-end for configuring it. It's very difficult for newcomers open a terminal and type commands. This is too geek :) It's a good idea to use this, but Rafael is right :/ -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio Conf for Lubuntu
2011/9/11 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com I've added the PPA for LXPanel made by Julien, but still it haven't upgraded... Oh i see now... LXPanel it's not there for natty :P How can I install it under Natty? I add the PPA but instead of Natty i add Oneiric?? -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio Conf for Lubuntu
2011/9/11 Stefano eco.st...@fastwebnet.it Only one info, does lubuntu use alsa or pulseaudio? Alsa :) Been trying Gamix for some minutes, and at first sight is allright, but now i can't get anything to work (go to config and you'll see). I've added the PPA for LXPanel made by Julien, but still it haven't upgraded... -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Audio Conf for Lubuntu
I know we are pass the freeze, but maybe this shortcut could be added to preferences menu for 11.10. I think for a lot of people it's useful to control the mic and all that stuff in alsamixer. Plus, there's nothing to add but this little shortcut :) And maybe there's a way to show lxterminal without the menus??? -- jpxsat audioconf.desktop Description: application/desktop ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio Conf for Lubuntu
2011/9/8 Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com I agree. A link to sound preferences makes sense. The only issues I see are 1) alsamixer is not very intuitive and 2) it dumps users into a terminal which might scare the crap out of many of them. :) Completely agree that a terminal app scares a lot of people, but in particular this one it's more friendly than it seems. In the interest of making it more friendly i asked for how to show lxterminal without the menus :) And meanwhile we have nothing to do this job, alsamixer it's the best candidate (as it's already in Lubuntu!). Maybe if there's time, the sound applet could be connected to it somehow... but that's another story. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio Conf for Lubuntu
xterm gets the effect wanted!! 2011/9/8 Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de ohiom...@gmail.com I agree. A link to sound preferences makes sense. The only issues I see are 1) alsamixer is not very intuitive and 2) it dumps users into a terminal which might scare the crap out of many of them. :) Completely agree that a terminal app scares a lot of people, but in particular this one it's more friendly than it seems. In the interest of making it more friendly i asked for how to show lxterminal without the menus :) And meanwhile we have nothing to do this job, alsamixer it's the best candidate (as it's already in Lubuntu!). Maybe if there's time, the sound applet could be connected to it somehow... but that's another story. -- jpxsat I think an easy shell script writing the don't show menubar in the config for executing alsamixer should do the trick. Another way would be executing alsamixer in xterm instead of lxterminal -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC news
If you just want to test it, you just need to download the branch (bzr branch lp:lubuntu-software-center), and launch it (python lubuntu-software-center). Terminal output: bzr: ERROR: Invalid http response for http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~stephen-smally/lubuntu-software-center/trunk/.bzr/repository/indices/f967347238cd3d1952abaa85a72c25f6.rix: Missing the Content-Range header in a 206 range response Still thinking that a PPA is the best. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Thoughts from 8.10
Hi people. Has any one tried an old ubuntu lately? lets say for example 8.10? Its damn fast! Don't understand why from there (here in my case) Ubuntu is demanding so many resources... i imagine 8.10 versioned as Lubuntu: it would be awesome! For starts, the theme (Human) renders very fast and apps open quite fast too: there's the old add/remove applications that renders quite well too (maybe its worth a look at the code for LSC?) and in general it behaves quite smooth. I'm just saying: this old OS works very fast, and I really don't know why... but maybe the Lubuntu devs could have an explanation for it and maybe improve Lubuntu this way. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lubuntu-Desktop] Sound Editing Software
2011/8/17 Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com I've had to adjust the mic balance in alsamixer to get the mic working on my last few laptops. Seems to be a bug were both channels can't be at full volume. It's pretty common for people trying to use Skpe with Acer/Gateway/Packard Bell laptops needing to do this. A quick internet search might help. Also, there is a toggle in alsamixer to turn lines on and off. I think it worked with my hardware. I know it's just a workaround. Sorry I can't be of more help. Tim Thanks Tim, i've take a look at it but finally it seems that it's something with Lubuntu + Pulseaudio (or just pulseaudio?)... removing pulseaudio makes audacity to work again and the levels can be set to 100% again. Ps: does anyone have a clue why if i install pulseaudio the sound of everything in my laptop is better? -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] [Lubuntu-Desktop] Integrate Catfish?
Been trying catfish for some days, it's not fully operational (opening folders with go to) but lubuntu needs an app like this. Xubuntu use this: why not Lubuntu too? -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lubuntu-Desktop] Integrate Catfish?
What is the resource usage? What is the installed size of it + it's deps? Suggested : strigi-daemon doodle tracker beagle Recommended : slocate Will be installed: catfish (32,3 ko) Installed, is 393 ko. For me catfish requires 22MB Ram to run (+- while it's searching). I think that is a little elevated BUT Lubuntu doesn't have anything that can search files and IMHO it's something needed, and besides it's not an app that will run forever: people will search and find and that's it for catfish. The app it's behaving well here on a pentium 3 (1000mhz). Plus, since Xubuntu uses it too, maybe in the near future a team l+x*ubuntu could help to improve it... just ideas! -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] About GPicView
2011/8/18 PCMan pcman...@gmail.com Please try Viewnior before making comments. It's better than GPicView in many ways. Except in Ram consumption: for the same picture (very small one) i have 8,8 for gpic and 13,6 for viewnior. Other than that, i'm lliking it so far :) Though I don't like to drop my own program and use others', I see no reason not to use it because it's indeed superior than mine. Even better, it's desktop independent. For Set as Wallpaper doesn't work here on Lubuntu 11.04 Please give it a try and give me some feedback. Developing another one with XFCE devs is not needed. I see no reason to do so. Maybe not needed, but if the light desktops could join in some projects, *maybe* things will be easier. Viewnior is good enough for this. If it's not, I'm sure that several patches will be enough. Does this mean that viewnior will be adopted by lxde?? That would be nice! -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] About GPicView
Sorry i haven't said this: +1 for Viewnior -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] [Lubuntu-Desktop] Sound Editing Software
Hi. In Lubuntu 10.04 i was able to run Audacity and Jokosher for record guitar+voice. Today Lubuntu let me down with those two programs!! Can't record a single sound with the microphone!! Am I the only one experiencing this? (in mswin it works, so it's not a hardware problem / the programs used to work in previous kernels so i doubt that it can be a driver problem since my laptop is pretty old) -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lubuntu-Desktop] Mousepad Problem
The behaviour of Ubuntu 11.04 for the mousepad of my laptop is the same as described for 10.04 - so, it seems that this is a Lubuntu specific configuration. It would be great if someone culd get a look at it to make it work again :) 2011/7/18 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com Hi guys: Back in 10.04 when i made a click with two fingers on the mousepad, it used to activate the right button of the mouse, now it acts like the center button. I believe this is a X.Org configuration since this happent in 10.04 when i added xorg-edgers ppa. I tried to change this with gpointing-device-settings but can't make it working like i want. Has anybody any ideas of how i can make it work like before? (my right button is broken :/ and i don't like the idea of carrying a usb mouse everywhere :/ ) -- jpxsat Maybe it was not only xorg-edgers ppa i added then :/ -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Can be lubuntu software center good thing?
2011/7/29 Stefano eco.st...@fastwebnet.it This mean, for example, hide the libs or other not-app packages by default? Exactly! It must make the difference between packages and applications for it to be user-friendly :) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] [Lubuntu-Desktop] Taskbar
Hi: There's a little problem with the taskbar: putting it above the screen makes something going wrong with the alignement and the size of things there... backing it to its normal position and that problem is still there (didn't see it before). It's not deal breaker, but anyways i report it. -- jpxsat attachment: 2011-07-23-154003_1024x768_scrot.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Mouse and Keyboard control problem
2011/7/19 Lee Gold leeg...@operamail.com Hey, lots of people use laptops with Synaptic touchpads - there should really be stable native support to config it in Lubuntu. I think this could be a good idea. Including gpointing-device-settings or a similar could improve Lubuntu greatly :) -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] [Lubuntu-Desktop] Mousepad Problem
Hi guys: Back in 10.04 when i made a click with two fingers on the mousepad, it used to activate the right button of the mouse, now it acts like the center button. I believe this is a X.Org configuration since this happent in 10.04 when i added xorg-edgers ppa. I tried to change this with gpointing-device-settings but can't make it working like i want. Has anybody any ideas of how i can make it work like before? (my right button is broken :/ and i don't like the idea of carrying a usb mouse everywhere :/ ) -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] [Lubuntu-Desktop] Good news
Don't know if this has been pointed on the mail list: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements Just check the Lightweight GUI alternative section :) -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Wine 1.3 and other apps installed not showing up in menu
For Wine at least, try this two things: - Open a .exe file with wine, Wine will configure itself and after that the submenu Wine should be there - If not, log out + lon in and the trick should be done 2011/7/16 Lee Gold leeg...@operamail.com Hi, Using Lubuntu 11.04. Installed Wine 1.3 and it does not show up in the menu. Also installed Xfce Clipman and it does not show up too. What is the fix? Some installs (via Synaptic) show and some don't. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Feedback after Lubuntu live test
Hi Theodor: I wasn't able too to run the live-cd in every machine i tried, but in the machines that the live-cd didn't started, i was seeing the terminal: simply typed lxdm and lubuntu started... try that :) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] pcmanfm memory leak?
Hi: Could someone confirm this leak on 11.04? try to copy 2gb to a usb mass storage connected to your laptop through a pcmcia card (everything is 2.0). I tried it yesterday and i was able to do absolutly nothing while the files were being copied. Before and after that, everything runned normally. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 700 mhz laptop with 256 ram running lubuntu
my daughters boyfriend has a 700 mhz compaq laptop with 256 ram running lubuntu can anyone go lower than that My main machine before the hardware upgrade was like that one. After an upgrade to that laptop, i enjoyed time to install Lubuntu on an old Pentium 2 (266Mhz 256Ram) and on a AMD-K6 100MHZ * 5.5X with the same Ram. Every install was made painless without any hack or weird stuff. Results? (for Lubuntu 10.04) - My Laptop runs better than ever (really, is like having a powerfull machine :) - The Pentium 2 runs quite nice (just a little bit slower than Windows 98 on the same machine :) - The AMD-K6 runs functionally, much slower than Win98 on the same machine though... i think it's due to it's video card (Sis 530 of 2Mb) (Note: in this machine, i've been able to run a system with 52Mb Ram used :) I have one machine more to make it run: a Pentium 1 laptop, 166Mhz (or less...) 24Mb Ram... the day i could use anything else than Win98 on that, i will be the happiest man in the world, and i'm hoping that one day Lubuntu could make that possible since it's (from far) my favourite distro :) (and the more lightweight complete functional out there) Question to the devs: do you *think* that maybe one day the optimizations could make a nice and usable system (say Lubuntu) running with the requeriments that Win98 did? I'm talking about less that 150Mhz and less than 50Mb Ram... Hope it offenses no one that i'm comparing Lubuntu requeriments with Win98 ones... ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ozone2 updates
My vote: Personally i prefer the Colourful with bubbleshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Incoming/Oneiric/Ozone?action=AttachFiledo=viewtarget=wallpaper_bubbles.png , the other one looks quite for old people :) I prefer the bright bar, since the panel should match with the windows theme, dark systems it's not what i prefer :/ -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Hmm, does any of this affect us?
This is a non-issue for Lubuntu, as far as I can see. Maybe the concern about this should be focus on the future of the app. Will it still be well supported now that's off from Ubuntu? Just how i see the problem for Lubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ubiquity slideshow
2011/6/21 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com Did you ever installed Lubuntu recently and see that installer shows bad the slides? In my case the slides that appears out of position are chat, e-mail, get help and lxde-based (total 4). If anybody has this problem I'll possibly make a bug about this. Thank you. Rafael: I installed Lubuntu 11.04 yesterday (a few hours ago really) and there was nothing strange in the slides i could tell. What i did miss was in the multimedia slide a little talk about audacious (not only gnome-mplayer). -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Good 3g news
Everybody: For quite a time now, i've been stucked with Ubuntu to get to work my 3g modems (in a very weird way i must say). Good news for 11.04: Lubuntu handle my 3 usb modems flawlessly right after pluggin them, without any weird stuff and set them correctly!! Hope more happy users are having this experience :) Thanks Lubuntu/Linux team/devs! -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Resources on 11.04
Devs: Recently installed 11.04 and i'm surprised by the RAM and CPU% consumed by Lubuntu in this release (I was keeping my main machine with 10.04 but decided to change to be able to help a little more). Back in 10.04 my ram consumption was below 75MB... now the system starts above 100MB / the CPU was always below 10%... now is almost all the time at 30%. Everything is faster, scrolls are better, the theme renders nicely (thanks Rafael), pcmanfm work very well... but as far as i understand, if lubuntu is a distro intended for low spec hardware (and for old machines) normally the ram consumption should be decreasing over the releases... not the opposite. Just my point of view. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Resources on 11.04
2011/6/21 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com Le Tuesday 21 June 2011 à 12:01 -0400, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit : About CPU usage, there is a bug in the theme, which cause more CPU usage than expected (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-artwork/+bug/776776) You can try to use the LXDesign theme in the meantime, the CPU usage should go back to the normal. Regards, Julien Lavergne Changed the theme (a shame) and cpu is back to normal, thanks Julien. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Resources on 11.04
Back in 10.04 my ram consumption was below 75MB... now the system starts above 100MB Since 10.04, we add more features, and it probably takes more ressources than expected. For example, we lost 10 Mb of RAM for update-notifier Oh, i forgot to say that i was aware of update-notifier, and the resources consumption i was telling you before are without this app running (removed from startup apps) -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Missing configuration programs
But now I'm lacking some shortcut editor. Me too... Multimediakey support is integrated already. Sorry about it, didn't tried since i'm staying with 10.04 - tried 11.04 though, but only volume worked... pause, play, etc didn't worked as they do in Ubuntu __ i just tried the live cd, maybe it has something to do with that? Also speaking about Missing configuration programs, i've tried to change in lxkeymap the keyboard map and didn't work. First my keyboard was es and tried to change to cl (or anything else), didn't work: next reboot tried from us to any map and nothing. Maybe this is a bug from the live cd and it disapears when the OS is installed? Can someone confirm it? -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Missing configuration programs
Multimediakeys Play, Pause , etc. need support in the music player itself.
I
think Audacious has support for it, but its disabled in the default
audacious
configuration. I don't know about gnome-mplayer support for this.
lxkeymap / I cannot confirm this. Switching keymap works like a charm here.
(Sorry for the bad writing, i cant find the characters!)
Im trying with another machine and theres no way lxkeymap can change my
keyboard map on the live cd...
For the multimedia keys, in Audacious preferences, Plugins, General, Global
Hotkey should be enabled by default, its a nice feature and not everybody
will say {oh, i must enable it}, most of people will just think that it
doesnt work. Once checked, multimedia keys work great.
In GnomeMplayer multimedia keys are set, but when playing a file and push
pause makes the button to highlight but just that, it doesnt pause.
Another missing configuration that should be enabled by default is chromium
with the gtk theme of lubuntu.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Missing configuration programs
2011/6/18 Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de Am 18.06.2011 11:16, schrieb Filip Dominec: Hi, I am missing several important programs for user settings (e. g. keyboard shortcuts, startup applications, keyboard layouts switching or sound channels volumes). In the ideal case these programs could be similar to that in Gnome 2, maybe we could just copy some. Is there any work in progress on this? Filip Dominec For keyboard shortcuts I normally edit the openbox configuration file, but you are right a graphical tool would be helpful here. For startup applications you can go to the menu - preferences - desktop session settings. Keyboard layout switching can be done with lxkeymap. Sound volume can be changed with the tray icon in the panel. Those applications are already included. A soundmixer gui like alsamixergui or a gnome-alsamixer would be nice to integrate. (despite the name gnome-alsamixer has not lot of dependencies) When could something be done about multimedia keys?? -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Leafpad Vs gEdit
I'm with Yorvik at this, no way Gedit can replace Leafpad in my old machines! 2011/6/18 Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com While I love gEdit for Python or editing .po files, with it's highlighting, auto indenting etc. it does need quite a bit of CPU/RAM and is overkill for editing small config files, scripts, etc. Stick with Leafpad, simple clean, no mess. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin XChat
2011/6/18 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com Le Saturday 18 June 2011 à 19:20 +0100, Yorvyk a écrit : No point in having two applications doing the same thing so drop XChat. ... having 2 programs which do the same thing is usually a bad idea for a default install. Regards, Julien Lavergne Agree with the chief. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Key 'super' (win logo) support
Could at least be listed in todo? it's a feature that a couple of people that i showed lubuntu said it would be cool if... 2011/6/16 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com Le Thursday 16 June 2011 à 16:56 -0400, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit : https://bugzilla.icculus.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4791 for touch only key 'super' use Super_L or Super_R in keybind key= if don't work use xev to determine keycode or keyname Thanks for the information. However, I think we lack a command to actually show the menu :-/ As far as I know, only a click on the menu show the menu. We need this feature before using the keybind for Super_*. Regards, Julien Lavergne -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Proposed changes to lubuntu-desktop
Gedit -1, way too slow on my old machines. (P3 and below) -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Proposed changes to lubuntu-desktop
From a very-humble user point of view: I use Libre Office + Gnumeric (Abiword can't convince me). As i read recently, Libre Office is getting performance improvements, but the problem is still the ram consumption vs the ram used by abiword (i use LO for writer and slideshows, but gnumeric is a magnificient tool), LO is an option? It could bring a slideshow editor to Lubuntu... Let individually decide but my guess is that Lubuntu should remain with abiword gnumeric for the concept. Midori: in many ways it could be best than chromium, but as PCMAN said, it's not stable at all . Games: ace of penguins is faster than anything, but they're not cool at all. Everybody i've shown this says something like looks ugly, how can i configure it?. There's nothing better around? PDF viewers: i'm with Rafael on this, Evince is the best choice there is (besides, it can read a lot of formats, not only pdf ;) xscreensaver makes my installations crash on every old computer i own, i already said this on the mailing list: it's heavy and it consumes energy displaying something fancy on the screen instead of just a black screen or turn it off (clearly i don't like it...); but it locks the screen, so it's necessary. xchat as i know is on discussion as i read recently... Pidgin would be the option. That's my two cents :) 2011/6/7 Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com I understand that it's a standard to have games, but the ones we have look worse than anything I've seen since DOS days! I think they sort of bring the overall feel of the distro down, but I'm guessing they are really lightweight. I don't really care one way or the other so whatever works for you guys if fine by me. I really like the way everything else looks and functions and I never play the games anyway. 2011/6/7 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com Well, it was a long discussion about this last time. I don't play at all, but I must admit that theye're needed. Every distributon has a few games, at least a Solitaire or something like that (kinda office spending time [image: :D] ). Maybe we need to talk about changing them, choosing another meta-package or individual ones. The included applications poll started. Again. -- [image: Go to rafaellaguna.com] http://lubuntublog.rafaellaguna.com [image: Go to Lubuntu.net] http://www.lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] IRC Client
IMHO having two programs that one fit in the other is a waste of space in the CD and effort for the Lubuntu devs. Pidgin can handle what xchat does... and for the specifics, xchat will always be installable. Honestly, i personally (in person) don't know anybody that uses x-chat. Just some thoughts. 2011/5/28 Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm On 05/28/2011 05:34 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: wasting RAm actually referred to having x-chat and pidgin both running together... x-chat does IRC fanatastically, but is not too good at MSN messenger, AOL / AIM, Yahoo! etc :) OK. So the fix for that is simple: don't do that, unless you have enough RAM to spare :) No change to Lubuntu needed :) Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: [ubuntu-uk] Ask Mark session
Lubunteers: Hearing those news is just awesome!! May I ask just one silly question? (and excuse me for doing it): What Lubuntu (or the team) will gain by becoming an official part of the family? It's just that i don't exactly know ... Congratulations again to the team :) -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] system requirements (workaround created!)
2011/5/2 Jeremy Bicha jer...@bicha.net Be careful about how low you set the number. It can make it difficult to install any additional software and likely more worrying, it can be impossible to upgrade if there is not space to download and unpack the updates. I think that the important thing for an old computer (i don't think that this problem could exist on new hardware) is to be able tu run some office apps, surf the internet and be able to be a stable post; this said, i don't think that for that would be required a Lubuntu-very-hard apps modification (the selection of apps for this is perfect). In my experience i leave in my laptop a 6gb partition for the system and it runs just fine (with 4gb free, sort of). But i have very different apps for lubuntu, and i'm always erasing old kernels and cleaning app data for install (just because i don't like junk being around). Conclude yourselves. Ps: is there a way to launch periodiquelly sudo apt-get clean on lubuntu? also why it keep all the kernels? that's tones of hard disk space for a little hard drive... maybe lubuntu should have a way to do a little cleaning :) Regards, -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Any major must fix before Beta issues left in Lubuntu?
Unfortunately, it will be very difficult to reduce the memory footprint of the installer for 11.04. The other question this poses is, is it really necessary to have a graphical installer as the default for Lubuntu? Some time ago, there was a question on the mailing list What do you expect from Lubuntu and i think that a very important point is it will go where Ubuntu can't or something like that. A graphical installer is something that we do only one time (in theory) so if it's a little ugly (text) IMHO i don't see the problem. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ozone theme
Rafael: For the round corners of the logout box, what if i change the gtk theme?? It will stick with that color and won't match with my color scheme :S I think that those corners should be as always just for those who like to change colors from time to time... :) -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio players - some thoughts RFC
2011/2/27 Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com Basically this would involve everybody using the same music to carry out the measurements and also reporting the hardware used. Couldn't be more agree with you: a standard test to make the decision would be perfect to take a decision (and for everything should be this way) Yorvyk, let me know if you need a hand since i'm very interested on this. The decision about the files to play will be a funny thing i guess :) Also, i think that a huge load of files (10.000+) it's an excessive task for the machines that Lubuntu is made for... but not something unfeasible :) So, first propositions: - Check App dependencies - Check Kb used by the packages - It must be in the repos - Results should be taken from HTOP - CPU + RAM must be verified before, during and after the test - Tests must be made with the same files: an assortment of extensions bitrates This said, wich will be the version of Audacious in 11.04?? -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Default launchers on panel
2011/2/26 Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com I've installed Lubuntu for a couple of novice users recently and. among numerous other questions, one that was asked, and has been asked by windows users as well, is what use is 'minimise all windows '. I have no idea as I always remove it. This brought me to the question of what launchers should be there. The most common ones that people place on the panel are web browser and mail client, this appears true for any OS that uses a similar system. The next most popular one is a file manager then word processor. After showing a few people the Directory Menu they seem to prefer it to going direct to PCManFM, I know I do. So my suggestion is, we have Directory Menu, Chromium and Sylpheed as the default launchers on the panel. RFC -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) I'm agree with Yorvik in most cases, but instead of removing the minimize all windows button, improve it: minimize AND resize all windows, just like in XP and Ubuntu. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin Suggestion
Finally understood what you mean: Those packages affect every libnotify action! And i must say they get way nicer... wich process should i check to see if it's heavier than before?? 2011/2/25 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com 2011/2/25 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 23:32 -0300, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit : Can't really tell any difference... so i ran pidgin with and without it and there's no difference seeing it with xfce4-taskmanager It's more about the visual between the 2 notifications. I suspect we have the same with or without this plugin install. Sorry, i think i'm missing something (english problems), but Pidgin doesn't manage notifications without this plugin installed, so can i compare them? -- jpxsat -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio players
Mike: 2011/2/26 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com 2011/2/26 Mike Nokel mno...@gmail.com Hi! I have just tested some audio players in my Lubuntu Maverick and I want to share my experience with you. First of all, my testing machine was Asus EEE PC 1015 pn. It has Atom N550 inside and 2 GB of memory. Firstly, I have installed deadbeef. I don't know whether it is a bug or not but after playing from one to three songs it stops playing at all. So this player was removed. Then I have read about audacious in this mail's list. I have installed it and it looked very nice, but used ~28% of my CPU. This was too big for me, so this player was also removed. Then I have found decibel audio player. This one used ~18% of my CPU and had very simple, but nice interface. I have also tried pogo audio player. It used ~16% of my CPU. So, now about two winners in this small compettion in my opinion. First of them is pragha. It is very fast, has simple but nice interface, is coded in C++ and uses ~14% of my CPU. And the second is alsaplayer. It has nice interface, equalizer and some available plugins that can imitate winamp style. It uses ~12% of my CPU. So I think that this is the best one for me. P.S. All of these players use nearly the same amount of memory. P.P.S. All digits were taken from htop utility. Best regards, Mike Nokel Mike: I tried severall players for Lubuntu, and for me audacious win because: - CPU doesn't get over 18% on an P3 at 768(1000) mhz - It was the app consumming less RAM among all (this is a hard point to me because at the time i did those tests i use to have 256ram) - I can throw to it almost anything, it's codecs are very large The amount of CPU you're experiencing it's maybe due that you tried it freshly installed or changed from GTK skin to winamp skin or viceversa... in those cases the cpu consuming gets crazy (don't know why). Just try it after a reboot without touching anything to the conf :) In an old machine i have, it is the only player that i could get to work without messing with the sound output. Julien also commented something about audacious development that was a good thing to Lubuntu... Anyway, i will test those players you're pointing, maybe effectively one of them is better than audacious... i'm having some desapointments with the latest versions of it (but i hope they will fix it) -- Jpxsat Decibel has gstreamer dependecies... something that in Lubuntu i don't think we are very friend of. Pogo and Pragha are not in the repositories (at least for 10.04) so it generates a problem for the Lubuntu team as they have to take in charge another package... (and so, i didn't even tried them) Alsa-Player is in the repos, no huge dependencies and it really impressed me about the cpu consumption, but taking a quick look at it, resulted that it's a very incomplete software... starting with the fact that it has no autoplay :( Audacious if a little more heavy for the CPU but it's a very complete piece of software ;) -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio players
2011/2/27 Jared Norris jrnor...@gmail.com On 27 February 2011 13:10, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote: Mike: 2011/2/26 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com 2011/2/26 Mike Nokel mno...@gmail.com Hi! I have just tested some audio players in my Lubuntu Maverick and I want to share my experience with you. First of all, my testing machine was Asus EEE PC 1015 pn. It has Atom N550 inside and 2 GB of memory. Firstly, I have installed deadbeef. I don't know whether it is a bug or not but after playing from one to three songs it stops playing at all. So this player was removed. Then I have read about audacious in this mail's list. I have installed it and it looked very nice, but used ~28% of my CPU. This was too big for me, so this player was also removed. Then I have found decibel audio player. This one used ~18% of my CPU and had very simple, but nice interface. I have also tried pogo audio player. It used ~16% of my CPU. So, now about two winners in this small compettion in my opinion. First of them is pragha. It is very fast, has simple but nice interface, is coded in C++ and uses ~14% of my CPU. And the second is alsaplayer. It has nice interface, equalizer and some available plugins that can imitate winamp style. It uses ~12% of my CPU. So I think that this is the best one for me. P.S. All of these players use nearly the same amount of memory. P.P.S. All digits were taken from htop utility. Best regards, Mike Nokel Mike: I tried severall players for Lubuntu, and for me audacious win because: - CPU doesn't get over 18% on an P3 at 768(1000) mhz - It was the app consumming less RAM among all (this is a hard point to me because at the time i did those tests i use to have 256ram) - I can throw to it almost anything, it's codecs are very large The amount of CPU you're experiencing it's maybe due that you tried it freshly installed or changed from GTK skin to winamp skin or viceversa... in those cases the cpu consuming gets crazy (don't know why). Just try it after a reboot without touching anything to the conf :) In an old machine i have, it is the only player that i could get to work without messing with the sound output. Julien also commented something about audacious development that was a good thing to Lubuntu... Anyway, i will test those players you're pointing, maybe effectively one of them is better than audacious... i'm having some desapointments with the latest versions of it (but i hope they will fix it) -- Jpxsat Decibel has gstreamer dependecies... something that in Lubuntu i don't think we are very friend of. Pogo and Pragha are not in the repositories (at least for 10.04) so it generates a problem for the Lubuntu team as they have to take in charge another package... (and so, i didn't even tried them) Alsa-Player is in the repos, no huge dependencies and it really impressed me about the cpu consumption, but taking a quick look at it, resulted that it's a very incomplete software... starting with the fact that it has no autoplay :( Audacious if a little more heavy for the CPU but it's a very complete piece of software ;) -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Just a quick question. I have been using exaile for years now on gnome and was wondering if it would be suitable? It has some gstreamer dependencies though so if this is a deal breaker I guess not. The only thing is I have been using it as a full features program on a quad core box and it idles along under 1% cpu usage but I don't have the ability to test it on older hardware so thought I'd just mention and see if anyone has the ability to test this or not. Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris Just tested Exaile, the CPU runs fine (17~25%), but it's a little more than Audacious (13~17%). But i can see crearly why is not an option for Lubuntu: it consumes 40mb Ram vs Audacious that consumes 17~18mb Ram Besides, for simplicity packages audacious are just 2... for exaile there are plenty of it (wich i don't know if it's a bad thing or not, but an app with just 2 packages seems simplier to me ;) -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin Suggestion
2011/2/25 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 23:32 -0300, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit : Can't really tell any difference... so i ran pidgin with and without it and there's no difference seeing it with xfce4-taskmanager It's more about the visual between the 2 notifications. I suspect we have the same with or without this plugin install. Sorry, i think i'm missing something (english problems), but Pidgin doesn't manage notifications without this plugin installed, so can i compare them? -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...
For me the MOST important function would be support for older machines. We have to start from one fact: if Lubuntu can run in an acceptable way in an old machine, it will run incredibly on a newer machine. Let me use it with external monitors/TV as a basic media player (HDMI out) For me, it's a problem of my video driver... so i'm not sure that it's always a problem about Lubuntu Be efficient And i would add that it has to be beautiful, and the artwork team is doing a great job keeping both fronts in mind. Also i would add that Lubuntu is a step forward to save the planet since: - It's energy efficient - You don't have to throw away your old machine, since it will revamp a machine starting from a P2* and above giving you a full and ready to use desktop in your own language. * Other OS like Puppy Linux can do this, but THAT is a really stripped distro... -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Add gucharmap to the default installed apps
2011/2/25 Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:53:20 - Chris Druif cyber.dr...@gmail.com wrote: Hai everyone, Seeing we are trying to bring the Ubuntu feeling to LXDE, we should try to give the full experience, but lightweight. Seeing Ubuntu comes with a character map installed, I would like to suggest that Lubuntu also comes installed with an character map. Seeing gucharmap (ubuntu's default) doesn't require any addition dependencies and should take 561kB on disk. It was discussed in the latest meeting, and gilir suggested to put it on the mailing-list to check if anyone was against the addition, so let yourself be heard if you do. Not something I use very often, but is useful occasionally. -- Yorvyk Some users need it... like me for doing my documents that have characters used in math classes. It seems to me a great idea for bringing a full desktop experience like Chris said! -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...
Well, at least 10.04 runs well on it... don't know if there's any project to compile kernels for old cpus... 2011/2/25 PYROcomp rexmo...@gmail.com qoute- You don't have to throw away your old machine, since it will revamp a machine starting from a P2* and above giving you a full and ready to use desktop in your own language. /quote Does the 11.04 edition in fact run on P2s? As I understand it support for old CPUs was dropped from the latest kernels... Regards, REXMO -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin Suggestion
Since Lubuntu uses libnotify for NM, transmission, power-management Gnome-Mplayer I would like to make a very humble suggestion package to be included on lubuntu: pidgin-libnotify. It would be nice to have an unified looking desktop. I'm testing it since a few days and it works great so far. This sounds like a good idea to me, as long as pidgin-libnotify does not depend on a bunch of other packages which are not already in Lubuntu. Can you test this (install a fresh Lubuntu, then do sudo apt-get -s install pidgin-libnotify and see how many (and which) other packages would be installed) and let the list know the results? Team: Here's what Jonathan asked: Package to be included: pidgin-libnotify (295kb installed) ... and it depends on: libindicate-gtk2 libindicate4 (180kb both installed) That's for 10.04, but i guess that in newer versions it should be the same. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver
Lubuntu team: Since Lubuntu is targeted for low-spec computers, xcreensaver is not a good choice to use since it causes problems such as: - In my three (old) machines I must kill the xcreensaver daemon in order to be able to install the system. - The idea is to make a good-looking effect but with older video cards the screensaver hangs or it is terribly slow. In fact in those three machines, once Lubuntu is installed I just remove xcreensaver and let the power-manager doing the trick of shutting-off my screen. It saves me from another app-running and the effect wanted is done (and even better since it shutts the screen off, it doesn't blank it... so it's *more energy efficiency for Lubuntu*) Speaking about this to Julien he pointed me to a problem I haven't seen: lock the screen. So, Googling a little i've found xtrlock, something very lightweigth to use that locks the screen until you type your user pass: everything is locked and your mouse pointer becomes a blue lock (but since the screen will be off, you won't tell ;) The way to implement this would be that as soon as the power-manager shuts off the screen it launches the xtrlock... but this would take Lubuntu devs to perform the task of coding it into the gnome-power-manager. I stop here, waiting for reactions and good-wellcoming :) Very humbly, -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin Suggestion
And it probably means that those library will be loaded. That's correct :) (that's why i've posted the kb from each package) Do you have the difference between the 2 notifications, with and without pidgin-libnotify ? Can't really tell any difference... so i ran pidgin with and without it and there's no difference seeing it with xfce4-taskmanager 2011/2/24 Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com Hai Julian, Have you got pidgin installed, as on Ubuntu Maverick it's installed when I use the PPA (so I'm not sure with the repos version). And I'd need to install libnotify to use it in Lubuntu? Shouldn't it be activated/installed by default? Giving the Ubuntu feeling? Food for thought, Chris Druif -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver
I have never seen a justifiable reason for there existence apart from locking the machine if required. Personally, i never lock the screen but i'm asuming that's a feature needed. Also, I hate screen locks on my machines. I would NOT want my screen to lock every time it went blank. Having it as an option would be nice, but not as default. xlock can be launched without password confirmation: xlock -nolock - this should be configurable. They serve no other purpose, other than using energy. The first time that i installed Lubuntu I've surprised when see that the default screensaver consume 60-70% of my processor. I couldn't be more agree. ... it's a energy saving OS too. In the lubuntu.net home page say it: lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and *energy saving* variant of Ubuntu using LXDE I think this is a crucial point according to the amount of cpu needed and the fact that it's an app running on the background consuming Ram... one of the goals of Lubuntu is to be *efficient* For the screen saving, It's relative to CRT screen, which are still used. But, having the ability to switch to a blank image maybe is enough. And I don't think xlock can do it. Just try xlock -mode blank for the blank image. Haven't screen-savers been around forever? Does Lubuntu need to be stripped down further? Been playing a little with xlock and it's sort of a lightweight-screensaver too, it draws on the screen things that i think most hardware can handle (i'll give it a try on my old amd-k6 to tell this) - This screensaver should be configurable if the user wants a blank screen or the aleatory screensaver set by default in xlock Should most hardware be able to handle them? Short answer, i think screensavers for old hardware were not exactly those in xcreensaver since it demands a good video card to work smoothly. xlock resulted to me much more attractive than xtrlock, but the problem remains the same: it can't be launched alone when the machine's been idle for a determined amount of time, so the idea that it depends on the power-manager to start sounds like a solution to me (so there are no additional daemons or apps running). Also xlock options could be handled in a new tab in the UI of gnome-power-manager, since they would be bundled (just ideas...) I would suggest putting it on launchpad as a feature request. Yes, but i don't know exactly how to say it in short words. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin Suggestion
Team: Since Lubuntu uses libnotify for NM, transmission, power-management Gnome-Mplayer I would like to make a very humble suggestion package to be included on lubuntu: pidgin-libnotify. It would be nice to have an unified looking desktop. I'm testing it since a few days and it works great so far. If you agree, i hope's not too late for it to be included in 11.04 -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] text files bug
People: I don't know how to exactly fill this bug about text files (and too for .rtf!?), so if anyone can help me it would be great: A text file copied and then pasted from a device to another (i did it with my usb key to my hdd and viceversa) is marked as an executable file (and so, it doesn't open with leafpad by default since it loads as a script or something...). Note that this doesn't happen when doing this process between partitions inside the same disk. I think that this is a pcmanfm problem, but i really don't know. I'm using pcmanfm 0.9.7 on 10.04. I've tested it in my three lubuntu machines, all did the same. I've tried it before and after the lxde/ppa update. -- jpxsat http://jpxsat-informatica.blogspot.com/ Ubuntu user #29.157 (Lubuntu 10.04) Linux user #522.597 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] debconf bug?
2011/2/18 Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/18/2011 10:59 AM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: Installing Lubuntu 10.04 to a friend, i watched something strange while upgrading the system: debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Gnome debconf: (Unable to load Gnome... is libgnome2-perl installed?) debconf: falling back to frontend: Dialog And after this it continues to install the package. But the system prints this message for every package to install... Why do you think this is a bug? What issue or harm does it cause? You should only see this is you look at the details window during the package installation from upgrade-manager, most users never see it. As far as I know, this is just debconf looking for GNOME and not finding it, which I would consider normal expected behaviour (since LUbuntu does not include GNOME!), and so this is (as far as I can see) not a bug. If this message results in failed installations, or the message in itself causes a problem for you, please state more clearly what the problem is. Thanks, Jonathan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk1eyQIACgkQUGfT4+mKBLLRKQCeOsUhdRQI+FjQ8MfY6n1pBj4a ZwsAnjZ78E/LRqDsTXRfs+OSOAIP4anz =rd38 -END PGP SIGNATURE- So, according to you it doesn't affect that each time a package is installed or uninstalled the system tries to find something and fails: this is a process that sure last less than a second... but Lubuntu is for old-spec hardware, so here, less than a second can be a second for other person with older hardware (and multiplied for each package you're un/installing...). And so, everybody here knows that Lubuntu doesn't include Gnome... that's why a call for something gnome-called looks bad. The process automatically falls back to the frontend dialog... i'm just saying that if it's possible, this should be done by default in Lubuntu. -- jpxsat http://jpxsat-informatica.blogspot.com/ Ubuntu user #29.157 (Lubuntu 10.04) Linux user #522.597 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: get lubuntu on Lubuntu website
People: Also it would be great if it could be 10.04.2 :) -- jpxsat http://jpxsat-informatica.blogspot.com/ Ubuntu user #29.157 (Lubuntu 10.04) Linux user #522.597 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu, energy efficiency and sustainable computing
Hi John: 1) Other Lubuntu users like me. Did the environment factor into your decision to start using Lubuntu? Did you use it to bring an old machine back to life? The reason i had to use this OS is that my machine was not working at all with XP and since with a P3 256 ram there's not a lot of OS that runs smoothly and are functional, i tried a lot of systems since i found it crazy to change a healthy machine because of it's OS! One day i found Lubuntu, tried it... and stayed with it since! For me, it has all the benefits of Ubuntu but it's very simple, clean... and really fast. Later, I even installed in a very old amd-k6 and runs nice. 2) Some data indicating that Lubuntu is more energy efficient. I've seen some claims along those lines, but does anyone have any proof that Lubuntu uses less electricity? I could not tell you with scientific proofs, but with Lubuntu my battery that has 10 years can work for more or less 1,6 hours (starting with the battery as power source) and i find it incredible... even once it lasted two hours, starting connected to AC power. With Ubuntu or XP is about 1 hour only. -- jpxsat Ubuntu user #29.157 (Lubuntu 10.04) Linux user #522.597 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Suggestion: Move these apps from Preferences to System Tools (submenus or not)
Guys: 2011/2/11 Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm On 02/11/2011 04:43 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: Thanks Jonathan. I can't see the benefit of the 2 sub-menu Administration and System tools. Why not merged them into 1 ? 1 thing I like in the LXDE/Lubuntu menu is that everything is quickly available. What do you think ? So to me, it makes sense as is. I was looking for a happy medium between everything vaguely System related goes into one big System menu, and the old way of System Preferences apps not even being noticeably System oriented in the menus, which I think is unfortunate -- the difference between a per-user change and a per-machine change is significant. But I'm not (yet?) a long-term every day Lubuntu or LXDE user. I am more used to the Ubuntu GNOME menu structure, which has System - Administration - Synaptic (for example)... so reflecting that in Lubuntu makes it much easier for me, personally, to find things, than when Synaptic was in Preferences :) That doesn't mean my way will suit everyone, though. Jonathan For me at least, if everything would be merged into one only sub-menu i would know where to do something that normally i won't use every day of my normal use of a computer. So, in favor of space and practicity i'm with Julien on this. It would remind me a little of XP wich honestly, was good. About control center: isn't there a way to start a window of pcmanfm without the adress column to make the pcmanfm-control-center?!?!?? How sad :'( -- jpxsat Ubuntu user #29.157 (Lubuntu 10.04) Linux user #522.597 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] How many OSs do you use?
Various OS actually, for my business and my family i have only Ubuntu installed on those machines, and i have an old machine with win98 to get to work a very old dancing game :P My main machine uses only Lubuntu, after been trying many faster distros i finally installed it and loved Lubuntu so much :) So, for now i'm don't thinking to switch back to Ubuntu in my main machine and so when Lubuntu will grow more stably and nice (for people that doesn't know anything about computers) i'll install it in the machines of my business :) -- jpxsat Ubuntu user #29.157 (Lubuntu 10.04) Linux user #522.597 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Little Problem with Ozone
My mistake, i'm confirming the bug that we can't change the foreground color in lxpanel. 2011/1/30 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) I can't change LXPanel 0.5.6 foreground color in taskbar. And this is Clearlooks [image: :(] Any idea from mailing list? PCMan is adviced of this. I'm on blackout. -- jpxsat Ubuntu user #29.157 (Lubuntu 10.04) Linux user #522.597 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
