Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] removing Chromium.

[Matthew Byers]

Aptitude will remove the package and ALL dependencies that are not being
used as well which is where i think all the extra stuff is coming from. Now
im limited in my verse with aptitude so i cannot specify why its grabbing
at vlc as such but this is what i see it doing which is why it pulls so
many more packages. Apt-get autoremove usually gives the same. (IIRC)

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:52 AM, ∅  wrote:

> Immediately I notice some very strange things being removed:
>
> virtual-box
> vlc
>
> Worst of all:
>
> tcpd
>
> This is why I don't use aptitude. I'm sure there is some sort of setting
> telling it to do what it is doing but this is indicitive of my experience
> with aptitude. It's got a user friendly interface but is not necessarily
> user friendly.
>
> wxl/walter
>
>
>
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> On Dec 22, 2011 8:43 AM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> one for the those who like the subtle differences between apt-get and
> aptitude.
>
> Removing Chromium using the two different commands provides massively
> different results. This was 1st reported on IRC and the pastebin [1] of the
> output is now available. If one of the 'guru's could take a look at it,
> it's way beyond my limited expertise!
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill
>
> [1] http://paste.ubuntu.com/778561/
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing

[Matthew Byers]

I have had issue with downloading a iso without using zsync and then trying
to zsync updates. I would suggest using zsync to download then continue to
use zsync to update.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Yorvyk wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:34 +0400
> amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:
>
> > Hi Julien, Phill and Everyone :)
> >
> > Last time I did a test for Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2, Phill advised to
> download
> > the daily build iso and install it rather than using "zsync". Does it
> stand
> > true on Alpha 1 as well? do I have to download the daily build? If yes,
> how
> > often do I have to do that? obviously, it doesn't make sense to do that
> > daily. My internet isn't that fast and during downloading, I can't do
> much
> > except waiting - any other website will be slow.
> >
> Not sure I really understand what you're saying here but, if you already
> have an ISO of Precise I would use zsync to update to Alpha1 or to a daily
> whichever you require as you realise it saves bandwidth and time.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

[Matthew Byers]

Yes it will affect Pentium II. Do we have options of compiling the
kernel within lubuntu to continue support.

2011/11/18 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) 

> But there're Lubuntu users on Pentium II and similar machines. In fact
> they're happy an OS can handle those "trashy" computers and make them
> useable.
>
> Will this affect those users?
>
>
>
>     
>
>
>
> 2011/11/18 Julien Lavergne 
>
>> I forgot to forward this mail from ubuntu-devel, it may have an impact on
>> Lubuntu since we shared the same kernel.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Julien Lavergne
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:43:28 -0700
>> From: Tim Gardner 
>> To: Ubuntu Kernel Team ,
>> ubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com
>> Subject: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise
>> Pangolin
>>
>>
>> Per discussion at UDS the kernel team is proposing to drop the non-PAE
>> i386 flavour. The upgrade path for non-PAE users will be the PAE kernel.
>> Those CPUs that do not have i686 and PAE support will be orphaned. To
>> the best of my knowledge, these include Intel CPUs prior to Pentium II,
>> 400Mhz Pentium M, VIA C3, and Geode LX. As far as I know, there are no
>> laptop or desktop class CPUs being produced that do not meet these
>> minimum requirements.
>>
>> Before I do something that is difficult to revert, I would like to hear
>> from the development community why we should continue to maintain a
>> kernel flavour that is (in my opinion) getting increasingly low
>> utilization. It is my feeling that an extremely high percentage of users
>> of the non-PAE kernel have a CPU that is PAE capable.
>>
>> If there is sufficient community demand (and support), I would be
>> willing to sponsor the first non-PAE kernel upload to Universe.
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Specs/PreciseKernelConfigReview
>>
>> We'll be conducting a similar survey for powerpc.
>>
>> rtg
>>
>> P.S. For those of you that are totally confused by this email, PAE
>> (Physical Address Extension) was an addition to 32 bit x86 CPUs that
>> allowed them to address more then 4GB physical memory.
>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Weekly meetings - Finding the right time

[Matthew Byers]

my vote would be for wednesday

On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 4:33 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> yes, I forgot to check with the fridge. According to this, we will
> probably need to push it to 8 PM, or on Tuesday 6 PM.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
> On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:45:15 +0100
> Chris  wrote:
>
> > If we want the meeting in #ubuntu-meeting (which is preferred I think)
> then
> > we should go an hour later. There is already a meeting every week from
> > "Unity Contributors Team Meeting". Check the Fridge to see which times
> are
> > still available for #ubuntu-meeting.
> >
> > I think the time is pretty good, but that is for my time-zone.
> >
> > With metta, Chris
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:18, mohi  wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Benny Hult  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Are we going to use #lubuntu(-offtopic) or #ubuntu-meeting?
> > > >
> > >
> > > It will be better if we have it in #ubuntu-meeting.
> > >
> > > > Time is great for me, cycling it aint bad idea either when thinking
> > > > about people living on the other side of the planet, like asia or
> > > > western side of the america.
> > >
> > > It will be better if we decide about cycling time after seeing the
> > > members present for the meeting
> > >
> > > Julien Lavergne kirjoitti 14.11.2011 9:43:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I think we have enough topics to start on a weekly base, but we can
> do
> > > > it less often in the future, if it's not necessary.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Exactly, we need topics atleast one day before the meeting so that
> > > each can come forward and out the opinions.
> > >
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc pause

[Matthew Byers]

JFYI from a developer's viewpoint, 14 days of in-activity is quite some
time! I would suggest actually installing say Lubuntu 11.04 and continue on
progress. Especially to get a effective working release of LSC for in time
of Lubuntu release. Just my two cents.

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Stefano  wrote:

> Ok, i'm switched to debian (xubuntu damaged) and i noticed that apt_pkg has
> changed a lot of functions names (what a mess).
> so i will restart to work on lsc when Lubuntu 11.10 will be released
> (something like 14 days i think), to test it better.
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Up coming adoption

[Matthew Byers]

You know i gotcha Phil :D
I will be proud to retain OP's for lubuntu and will gladly idle in
ubuntu-ops. I am currently on vacation and will return to action this Wed.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> as ever, we approach full adoption with the mass off a run-away train.
> Nothing can stop us now :)
>
> But, as ever, there are finer points and sub clauses to be met. One being
> IRC. The majority of you will be blissfully unaware that the ubuntuIRCouncil
> have had access to #lubuntu as OP's. They now ask that
>
> The current list of core channels is here: 
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/Scope - the concept core channel is 
> defined there as well. Now that Lubuntu will be an official Ubuntu 
> derivative, the related support and offtopic channels should be added there.
>
> As you say above, the channels have pretty much everything set already. The 
> biggest change that I can quickly think of is that #lubuntu operators should 
> join #ubuntu-ops and idle there once Lubuntu becomes official.
>
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>
>
> The alteration being that those who are OP on #lubuntu do auto-join the 
> #ubuntu-ops area and be recognised. If any one wants to chicken out having OP 
> status on #lubuntu, now is the time to squeal. In three days time I will pass 
> on our list to the ubuntu-irc people for them all to be acknowledged. (He did 
> say idle... it is a case of just being there and flying the flag, although we 
> who know DE know that we can be asked onto areas to help out).
>
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>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PPA for lubuntu-software-center

[Matthew Byers]

As i was unable to install 11.04 on my system from usb i had to install
10.04 awhile back. After not being able to test the lsc i decided to upgrade
via update manager last night. The upgrade went smoothly and i was able to
readd the ppa and install lsc but am unable to run it. I try calling it from
menu but nothing happens and i try running from cli and get this:

stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ lubuntu-software-center
Opening config file
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/lubuntu-software-center", line 464, in 
app = LscControl()
  File "/usr/bin/lubuntu-software-center", line 38, in __init__
self.ui = UI.Gui()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/LSC/UI.py", line 42, in __init__
control.__init__()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/LSC/control.py", line 80, in
__init__
controller = Controller()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/LSC/control.py", line 32, in
__init__
self.parser.readfp(self.conf_file)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/ConfigParser.py", line 316, in readfp
self._read(fp, filename)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/ConfigParser.py", line 504, in _read
raise MissingSectionHeaderError(fpname, lineno, line)
ConfigParser.MissingSectionHeaderError: File contains no section headers.
file: /home/stlsaint/.config/lsc/LSC.ini, line: 2
'[General]\n'
stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$


On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Matthew Byers wrote:

> I readded and tried again but still not working. I will try another way
> later. Thanks folks
> On Sep 8, 2011 9:56 AM, "Gareth Rigby"  wrote:
> > Matthew,
> > My apologies I didn't notice it spelt correctly below that! I had no
> > problem installing from synaptic under the name
> > "lubuntu-software-center" Maybe try searching for just "lubuntu" and
> > scroll through. Try reloading in synaptic and if it still doesn't
> > appear, click on software sources and "edit" the PPA you added a box
> > will appear, check that it matches these details:-
> >
> > Type: Binary
> > URI: http://ppa.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/ppa/ubuntu
> > Distribution:natty (Assuming you are on natty of course! Put your
> > distro in here if different
> > Components: main
> > comments :
> >
> > Hope this helps, mine added straight in on the terminal, but I removed
> > it and added it back in synaptic.
> > with "add" in software sources and typed " *ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa*" in
> > the popup that appears, simply reloaded and and searched for "lubuntu."
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Gareth
> >
> > On 08/09/11 16:06, Matthew Byers wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes I spelled wrong at first but you can see via the rest of my
> >> snippet that I correctly executed the command. Is it under a different
> >> name than lubuntu-software-center cause even via synaptic I don't see
> >> it. I was able to install the lubuntu-control-center just fine just
> >> not software center.
> >>
> >> On Sep 8, 2011 3:31 AM, "Gareth Rigby"  >> <mailto:gareth.rigby...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> > Matthew,
> >> > Looking through your email and it appears you have spelt repository
> >> > incorrect in your command. you have spelt it "repositoriy" Might be
> >> > easier to use synaptic to install it
> >> >
> >> > cheers Gareth
> >> >
> >> > On 08/09/11 10:59, James Gifford wrote:
> >> >> Hey Matthew - to install it, run "sudo apt-get update" to update your
> >> >> repository list and then try to install it.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> James Gifford
> >> >> http://jamesrgifford.com
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sep 8, 2011, at 0:40, Matthew Byers  >> <mailto:faintstlsa...@gmail.com>
> >> >> <mailto:faintstlsa...@gmail.com <mailto:faintstlsa...@gmail.com>>>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> I am unable to install, i added ppa then updated then tried
> >> >>> installing and it was unable to find it.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ sudo apt-add-repositoriy
> >> >>> ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
> >> >>> sudo: apt-add-repositoriy: command not found
> >> >>> stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ sudo add-apt-repository
> >> >>> ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
> >> >>> Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options
>

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PPA for lubuntu-software-center

[Matthew Byers]

I readded and tried again but still not working. I will try another way
later. Thanks folks
On Sep 8, 2011 9:56 AM, "Gareth Rigby"  wrote:
> Matthew,
> My apologies I didn't notice it spelt correctly below that! I had no
> problem installing from synaptic under the name
> "lubuntu-software-center" Maybe try searching for just "lubuntu" and
> scroll through. Try reloading in synaptic and if it still doesn't
> appear, click on software sources and "edit" the PPA you added a box
> will appear, check that it matches these details:-
>
> Type: Binary
> URI: http://ppa.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/ppa/ubuntu
> Distribution:natty (Assuming you are on natty of course! Put your
> distro in here if different
> Components: main
> comments :
>
> Hope this helps, mine added straight in on the terminal, but I removed
> it and added it back in synaptic.
> with "add" in software sources and typed " *ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa*" in
> the popup that appears, simply reloaded and and searched for "lubuntu."
>
> Cheers
>
> Gareth
>
> On 08/09/11 16:06, Matthew Byers wrote:
>>
>> Yes I spelled wrong at first but you can see via the rest of my
>> snippet that I correctly executed the command. Is it under a different
>> name than lubuntu-software-center cause even via synaptic I don't see
>> it. I was able to install the lubuntu-control-center just fine just
>> not software center.
>>
>> On Sep 8, 2011 3:31 AM, "Gareth Rigby" > <mailto:gareth.rigby...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> > Matthew,
>> > Looking through your email and it appears you have spelt repository
>> > incorrect in your command. you have spelt it "repositoriy" Might be
>> > easier to use synaptic to install it
>> >
>> > cheers Gareth
>> >
>> > On 08/09/11 10:59, James Gifford wrote:
>> >> Hey Matthew - to install it, run "sudo apt-get update" to update your
>> >> repository list and then try to install it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> James Gifford
>> >> http://jamesrgifford.com
>> >>
>> >> On Sep 8, 2011, at 0:40, Matthew Byers > <mailto:faintstlsa...@gmail.com>
>> >> <mailto:faintstlsa...@gmail.com <mailto:faintstlsa...@gmail.com>>>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I am unable to install, i added ppa then updated then tried
>> >>> installing and it was unable to find it.
>> >>>
>> >>> stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ sudo apt-add-repositoriy
>> >>> ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
>> >>> sudo: apt-add-repositoriy: command not found
>> >>> stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ sudo add-apt-repository
>> >>> ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
>> >>> Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options
>> >>> --no-default-keyring --secret-keyring /etc/apt/secring.gpg
>> >>> --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg
>> >>> --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyserver
>> >>> keyserver.ubuntu.com <http://keyserver.ubuntu.com>
>> <http://keyserver.ubuntu.com> --recv
>> >>> F57545CD115BD805E0FE496EACC3E225CF57B0F4
>> >>> gpg: requesting key CF57B0F4 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
>> <http://keyserver.ubuntu.com>
>> >>> <http://keyserver.ubuntu.com>
>> >>> gpg: key CF57B0F4: "Launchpad PPA for Lubuntu" not changed
>> >>> gpg: Total number processed: 1
>> >>> gpg: unchanged: 1
>> >>> stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install
>> lubuntu-software-center
>> >>> Reading package lists... Done
>> >>> Building dependency tree
>> >>> Reading state information... Done
>> >>> E: Unable to locate package lubuntu-software-center
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Julien Lavergne > <mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com>
>> >>> <mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com <mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com>>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> lubuntu-software-center is available in this PPA :
>> >>> https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa
>> <https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa>
>> >>> <https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa>
>> >>> Don't forget it's still a work in pro

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PPA for lubuntu-software-center

[Matthew Byers]

Yes I spelled wrong at first but you can see via the rest of my snippet that
I correctly executed the command. Is it under a different name than
lubuntu-software-center cause even via synaptic I don't see it. I was able
to install the lubuntu-control-center just fine just not software center.
On Sep 8, 2011 3:31 AM, "Gareth Rigby"  wrote:
> Matthew,
> Looking through your email and it appears you have spelt repository
> incorrect in your command. you have spelt it "repositoriy" Might be
> easier to use synaptic to install it
>
> cheers Gareth
>
> On 08/09/11 10:59, James Gifford wrote:
>> Hey Matthew - to install it, run "sudo apt-get update" to update your
>> repository list and then try to install it.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> James Gifford
>> http://jamesrgifford.com
>>
>> On Sep 8, 2011, at 0:40, Matthew Byers > <mailto:faintstlsa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> I am unable to install, i added ppa then updated then tried
>>> installing and it was unable to find it.
>>>
>>> stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ sudo apt-add-repositoriy
>>> ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
>>> sudo: apt-add-repositoriy: command not found
>>> stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ sudo add-apt-repository
>>> ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
>>> Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options
>>> --no-default-keyring --secret-keyring /etc/apt/secring.gpg
>>> --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg
>>> --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --keyserver
>>> keyserver.ubuntu.com <http://keyserver.ubuntu.com> --recv
>>> F57545CD115BD805E0FE496EACC3E225CF57B0F4
>>> gpg: requesting key CF57B0F4 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
>>> <http://keyserver.ubuntu.com>
>>> gpg: key CF57B0F4: "Launchpad PPA for Lubuntu" not changed
>>> gpg: Total number processed: 1
>>> gpg: unchanged: 1
>>> stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install
lubuntu-software-center
>>> Reading package lists... Done
>>> Building dependency tree
>>> Reading state information... Done
>>> E: Unable to locate package lubuntu-software-center
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Julien Lavergne >> <mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> lubuntu-software-center is available in this PPA :
>>> https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa
>>> <https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa>
>>> Don't forget it's still a work in progress, but it should be
>>> quite usable now. Please report any bugs on the launchpad project
>>> : https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Julien Lavergne
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PPA for lubuntu-software-center

[Matthew Byers]

I am unable to install, i added ppa then updated then tried installing and
it was unable to find it.

stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ sudo apt-add-repositoriy
ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
sudo: apt-add-repositoriy: command not found
stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring
--secret-keyring /etc/apt/secring.gpg --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg
--keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg
--keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv
F57545CD115BD805E0FE496EACC3E225CF57B0F4
gpg: requesting key CF57B0F4 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
gpg: key CF57B0F4: "Launchpad PPA for Lubuntu" not changed
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:  unchanged: 1
stlsaint@stlsaint-lubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install lubuntu-software-center
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package lubuntu-software-center


On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

>  Hi,
>
> lubuntu-software-center is available in this PPA :
> https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa
> Don't forget it's still a work in progress, but it should be quite usable
> now. Please report any bugs on the launchpad project :
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center
>
> Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Light-Weight software center

[Matthew Byers]

PCMan has expressed a very valid point.

On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 2:50 AM, PCMan  wrote:

> A key question is, what makes your project lighter than software center?
> What's the bottle neck of software center? What makes it so heavy?
> Practically what will you do to make yours light?
> Usually just rewriting a program with less features won't make it
> significantly lighter or faster unless you overcome the problem of the
> original software. Otherwise it is not worth the effort and maintaince
> cost.
>
> On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 1:43 AM, Stephen Smally 
> wrote:
> > Hi everybody, i'mt trying to do a user-friendly and light package
> > manager ( a kind of Lubuntu software center) in python (bad?).
> > now the code is very poor, i hope you can help me (simply suggesting or
> > coding).
> > the active branch is lp:~stephen-smally/+junk/lubuntu-software-center
> > i'm using apt and aptdaemon, if somebody knows a better way, please tell
> > me.
> >
> > Regards
> >
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New ISO images available : Lubuntu

[Matthew Byers]

The image size will become smaller.

On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:18 PM, gs  wrote:

> **
>  On 07/27/2011 12:08 AM, Lance wrote:
>
>   This is excellent news. Hopefully Ubuntu QA will be able to add the
> Lubuntu images to iso-testing by either Alpha3 or Beta1. Once Lubuntu is
> included in iso-testing I'll shift my testing from Ubuntu desktop images to
> Lubuntu desktop images.
>
> Don't worry too much about the oversize images. I've been iso-testing for
> quite some time and oversize images are the norm during alpha stage, and
> even the daily beta images are often oversize. As RC and final iso-testing
> approaches more effort is made at reducing the size of the images to under
> 700MB.
>
> Many thanks for all of the great work,
>
> Lance
>
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 7/26/11, Julien Lavergne 
> * wrote:
>
>
> From: Julien Lavergne  
> Subject: [Lubuntu-desktop] New ISO images available : Lubuntu
> To: "Ubuntu Developers" 
> 
> Cc: "lubuntu-desktop" 
> 
> Date: Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 4:52 PM
>
> Hi Ubuntu developers,
>
> New images have pop up on cdimage.ubuntu.com [1]. Finally, Lubuntu is
> out of the Ubuntu factory :) [2]
>
> For people who don't know Lubuntu, this is a quick presentation. Lubuntu
> is a distribution based on Ubuntu, and the LXDE desktop environnement.
> The main goal is to provide a very lightweight distribution, but with
> all the advantages of the Ubuntu world (repositories, support ...).
> Currently we are using :
> - Chromium for the browser
> - Openbox for the windows manager
> - Pcmanfm for the file manager
> - Abiword + Gnumeric for office work
> - Pidgin for IM
> - Audacious for playing music
> - Gnome-mplayer for videos
> - Some GNOME components : evince, file-roller, gnome-keyring
> - Most of the LXDE components
> You can find the complete list of applications by default on the wiki
> [3].
>
> After 2 years of work, and 3 "unofficial" releases (10.04, 10.10 and
> 11.04), we had recently an official go from the Technical Board and ISO
> images are now made like other Ubuntu flavors. I hope the 11.10 will be
> the 1st official release of Lubuntu as a member of the Ubuntu family :)
>
> We have 2 important particularities. Like Xubuntu, we use another
> GTK-based desktop environnement than GNOME, and we try to avoid
> unnecessary GNOME depends which could slow the system. We need some
> GNOME parts because LXDE doesn't provide all necessary components. It's
> the reason why we are very careful about dependencies of those
> applications.
>
> We are also very strict with ressources requirement. It's the reason why
> we don't include all Ubuntu specific applications. For example, we don't
> include Software-Center because it's still a bit heavy for some of our
> targets.
>
> I would like to thanks all people who make this happen, especially Mark,
> Colin and Emmet, and all people involved in the development of Lubuntu
> and LXDE.
>
> If you want to talk to the Lubuntu community, you can use our mailing
> list 
> (lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net)
> or IRC : #lubuntu on
> Freenode. You can also find information on our wiki [3].
>
> Thanks for your attention :)
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
>
> [1] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/
> [2] It's still young images, which for now, are oversized, don't load
> the desktop session, and have wrong splash images .. they should be
> better in the futur :)
> [3] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications
> [4] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
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> is the iso going to stay at 800gb or is it going back down to 600 please
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Light-Weight software center

[Matthew Byers]

Awesome project idea. For starters i will suggest python coding standards,
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/



On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Stephen Smally wrote:

> Hi everybody, i'mt trying to do a user-friendly and light package
> manager ( a kind of Lubuntu software center) in python (bad?).
> now the code is very poor, i hope you can help me (simply suggesting or
> coding).
> the active branch is lp:~stephen-smally/+junk/lubuntu-software-center
> i'm using apt and aptdaemon, if somebody knows a better way, please tell
> me.
>
> Regards
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ubuntu Developer Week - Preparation

[Matthew Byers]

> Well, team - Any other ideas? (I'm allowed screen shots in the
presentation as well).
Maybe some screenshots of resource usage doing various activites, IE: idle,
watching a movie, web browsing, music, etc.

On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> Le Friday 08 July 2011 à 21:48 -0700, Jonathan Marsden a écrit :
> >  1. What is Lubuntu? (two sentence definition)
> >  2. Why do we need abother *ubuntu flavour? (reason for our existence)
> >  3. Who is it useful to? (intended audience)
> >  4. How to get started (where to download, where to get help)
> >  5. What do do when you have issues with it (where/how to report bugs)
> >  6. Minimal hardware needed:
> > 6.1 for GUI install
> > 6.2 for manual install on very low RAM machines
> >  7. Current known issues (point to FAQ)
> >  8. What changes will Lubuntu Oneiric bring?
> >  9. How you can help (testing/developing/translating/etc.)
> > 10. Any questions?
> Sound good. If they have special questions :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ContactUs
>
>
> > That should fill a UDW slot, I'd think?  It's not super
> > "developer-focused", but that is probably OK?  Depends on who the
> > intended audience is, which I am not totally clear about.
> As I understood, the Lubuntu session will not be too much developers
> oriented, more a first description for the Ubuntu world :)
>
> > BTW we should check what we officially are... a Ubuntu "variant", or
> > "flavour" or ... whatever it is... and then use that term
> > consistently.
> I think "flavour" is the official term, but I'm not sure the term is
> used consistently, even for the others (Xubuntu, Kubuntu etc ...)
>
>
> > I'd tend to skip the history -- users and potential developers are
> > likely to care more about what Lubuntu can do for them *now* and what
> > it
> > *will* do in the future, than about the past.
> +1
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Some new apps

[matthew byers]

> I'm not really satisfied with the applications which comes with lubuntu,
Good thing there is a repository with hundreds of apps to choose from to get
a system to your liking. Lubuntu is meant to be light on resources so having
heavy applications installed on default defeats that purpose. As far as
adding your app to lubuntuwell that will fall on the developers
decision! Glad you like the distro!!

On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 9:24 PM, King Xerxes wrote:

> Hi!
> I'm not really satisfied with the applications which comes with lubuntu,
> however, lubuntu it self is amazing. I'm making a Text editor for
> lubuntu, which will target developers, since Leafpad is not very handy
> for them, hope you will integrate my application in lubuntu.  Also, as
> for image manipulation programs, I suggest LazPaint, try it your self ;)
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/lazpaint/.
> Thanks a lot,
> Sincerely,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing

[matthew byers]

Per the post on the foums that i just read is all this questioning the need
of a official forum for lubuntu?

On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Lance  wrote:

>   I may have done a bit of a bad job explaining myself. I'm not too
> concerned ATM about the bugs I encountered, I'm just testing the waters in
> order to be as useful to the Lubuntu project as possible. Since time is
> limited please look at my "test" bug report and also this forum thread (no
> need to comment at the forums):
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/792850
>
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10901610&postcount=10
>
> I did have one other thought however. Do you suppose the Ubuntu Forum mods
> might grant us permission to start a sub-forum here:
>
> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=46
>
> All thoughts are welcome. My ideas may stink and I don't mind being told
> so.
>
>
> --- On *Fri, 6/3/11, Chris * wrote:
>
>
> From: Chris 
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] The need to improve Lubuntu bug filing
> To: "Phill Whiteside" 
> Cc: "Lance" , "lubuntu-desktop" <
> lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net>
> Date: Friday, June 3, 2011, 8:38 PM
>
>
> Hello Lance,
>
> I haven't run oneiric yet, but I think the missing of shutdown/restart
> buttons is due to not having GTK3 icons for that. We're hard at work in
> creating the new themes for oneiric, which should be GTK3 ready. And just
> pressing enter/return didn't do the trick on getting along with the
> installer (bug 3)?
>
> Welcome to the crew by the way.
>
> With metta,
>
> Chris Druif
>
> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 00:22, Phill Whiteside 
> http://mc/compose?to=phi...@ubuntu.com>
> > wrote:
>
>  hiyas kansasnoob,
>
> firstly, great to see you - I don't get onto the forum areas as much as I
> used to (or should do). The A1 is still built the 'old way' and is, afaik,
> just a toe stretching session for the new kernel to be included. There has
> been some work the apps done, along with deciding which applications we
> include by default. Pcman has a new pcmanfm out in the wild for us to break.
> Hooks for apport are on the TODO list and are being added, but the 1,000
> dedicated developers we have . err, well, I may have over estimated by
> 998 are awaiting getting their teeth into the 'official' iso building
> system. This should be done for a2.
>
> The general page for 11.10 is at
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers
>
> Progress on the apport hooks can be found at
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO
>
> If you, or any of the testers on the main area would like to keep abreast
> of what Lubuntu is up to, please doe feel free to add the mailing list to
> your cluttered boxes (We don't send that many out!)
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved has the one click link to
> get the lubuntu discussions.
>
> Please give my regards to Ranch Hand, I must pop on and find out what
> better name he has for 11.10 - I will make a point of letting the testing
> area know when A2 comes out, but the a1 had little in the way of changes.
>
> Apart from anything else, it will be nice to 'touch base' with all you
> great people again.
> For A2, I will try to get a set of notes together so you good people know
> where Lubuntu is headed for 11.10, as it is the precursor for 12.04 (LTS) we
> need to get as many bugs ironed out as possible during the 11.10 cycle
> (errr, you may recall Grub2 coming out in 9.10 :P ).
> Lubuntu is also now popping it's toe into the water for accessibility, but
> realistically this is a couple of cycles away - we simply do not have enough
> devs. Accessibility could do themselves a favour, but we do have a meeting
> coming up under Jono Bacon to allow us to ask questions. It is times like
> this I miss Ranch Hand's 'say it as it is' attitude, although JM one of our
> devs is no shrinking violet. I'm sure he and Ranch Hand would get on great
> :P
>
> My kindest regards to you and the rest of the testers,
>
> Phill.
> P.S. - Now go and dig me up a spare developer or two :D
> @ Julien and JM - if there is any thing factually incorrect, please correct
> me.
>
>
>
>   On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Lance 
> http://mc/compose?to=lbsol...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>First a brief intro. I'm Erick Brunzell at Launchpad, Lance at
> iso-testing (in which I've participated for over 3 years), and "kansasnoob"
> at Ubuntu forums.
>
> I'm quite glad to see that Lubuntu will soon become an official member of
> the Ubuntu family. I particularly look forward to the day that Lubuntu's
> images are included in Ubuntu's iso-testing.
>
> Anyway I obtained the Lubuntu Oneiric Alpha1 image here:
>
> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/
>
> And naturally I encountered a few minor bugs. To expect any less this early
> in a dev cycle is insane, but I still felt they should be reported. The
> specific bugs are:
>
> 1) The Lubuntu Alpha1 Live CD boots to a tty, so you have to type *startx*to 
> get the DE.
>
> 2) The default DE lacks restart or shu

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Possible bug?

[matthew byers]

What release are you running? I am on 10.10 and i didnt get that behavior.

On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:56 AM, Jared Norris  wrote:

> Good morning all,
>
> I've come across something very weird this morning that I've never seen
> before. Trying to open any program via the gui menu or taskbar icons results
> in them trying to open as root (I noticed because PCmanFM threw errors that
> I didn't have permission to open the /home/user location). I'm logged in as
> a normal user and whenever I open programs from the terminal prompt it
> functions as expected.
>
> Should I file a bug or does any one have any other suggestions?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych)
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Directory tree is now available in PCManFM!

[matthew byers]

Very nice. I will be testing shortly!!
On May 29, 2011 3:36 AM, "PCMan"  wrote:
> Everybody loves screenshot!
>
>
http://blog.lxde.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/pcmanfm-dir-tree-480x383.png
>
> Directory tree in side pane was a feature in PCManFM 0.5 series, but
> it’s not yet implemented in the latest rewrite. Yesterday, I finished
> the rewrite for directory tree and added it to PCManFM. This new
> feature is now availble in git repository. I also added a drop-down
> menu to side pane to swtich between different kind of side panes.
> Currently there are only “Places” and “Directory Tree”. Later I plan
> to add more modes.
>
> I also reworked the tabbed browsing part yesterday. Due to the
> limitations of GTK+, I did some dirty hacks for it to reduce resource
> usage. This comes at the price of less readable source code, though.
> After the tab-browsing rework, I fixed an old bug causing incorrect
> and outdated info shown in status bar so now the info in status bar is
> up-to-date most of the times. Later, I’ll try to add a “Reload”
> button so remote filesystems without notifications on changes can be
> refreshed manually.
>
> To test the latest features, grab the source code from git.
>
> You have to install libfm first:
> git://pcmanfm.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pcmanfm/libfm
> This is the supporting library required by PCManFM.
>
> Then install pcmanfm. Notice that the new feature is in "tab-rework"
> branch, not in "master"
> git://pcmanfm.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pcmanfm/pcmanfm
>
> If you don’t know how to compile libfm/pcmanfm from source code, read
this:
>
> http://wiki.lxde.org/en/PCManFM_build_and_setup_guide
>
> Now, it’s time to fix the remaining bugs in the bug tracker and keep
> heading for 1.0 release.
> Cheers!
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu base/minimal desktop

[matthew byers]

Sounds interesting. I would think that if you are leaving all other apps up
to the user you minus well leave the browser up to them as well.

On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:51 PM, Yorvyk wrote:

> Just been talking with someone about a spin of Lubuntu he made himself.
>  It's basically the live CD with out the applications.  The only stuff on it
> are the System Tools and Preferences menu, and Terminal and Leafpad in the
> Accessories menu.  The idea being that people can install their preferred
> apps. or for use on Eeepc netbooks with 2 gig SSD where not every thing from
> the live CD may be needed.
> One thing we did wonder was, would people need a browser as part of the
> install or would they rather just pick the one they want from Synaptic.
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: busy box

[matthew byers]

Possible corrupt iso download



On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:24 AM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:

> hiyas,
>
> anyone use VM machines and know what this error is?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Phill.
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Jens Leineweber 
> Date: Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:40 PM
> Subject: busy box
> To: Phill Whiteside 
>
>
>  hey phil,
>
>
>
> with this mail you get the screenshot i talked to you about a few days
> back.
>
>
>
> hope you could work with that.
>
>
>
> regards
>
> jens
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] packaging hooks

[matthew byers]

I never viewed it that way. But your are absolutely right and I agree to
move in that direction.  I wrote(hacked together) two hooks, one for lxdm
and the other for lxlauncher. So i will move on to packaging. Thanks for the
encouragement Jonathan.
On May 18, 2011 12:32 AM, "Jonathan Marsden"  wrote:
> On 05/17/2011 02:39 PM, matthew byers wrote:
>
>> Hey folks, what is the supported method of getting apport hooks
>> packaged? Is the process to do as brian murray suggest and: "In the
>> event that you write a hook for a package that you can not *upload*
>> or need help getting sponsored, please report a bug about the
>> package missing a hook. Then add the hook as a patch (or a merge
>> proposal)..."
>
>> OR do i just send the hook to say gilir or jmarsden for packaging into
>> the appropriate package? Cheers
>
> You left out another important possibility: open the bug as Brian Murray
> suggested, then attach the hook to it, and *then* package the
> application to include your new hook, and attach the debdiff to the bug
> report.
>
> This could be a very good way to practice your own packaging skills :)
>
> Once that is done, you can of course ask gilir (or jmarsden!) to look at
> your work, suggest improvements, etc. gilir can do even more and
> actually approve your newly improved package, of course :)
>
> Jonathan
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Hey folks, what is the supported method of getting apport hooks packaged? Is
the process to do as brian murray suggest and: "In the event that you write
a hook for a package that you can not *upload* or need help getting
sponsored, please report a bug about the package missing a hook. Then add
the hook as a patch (or a merge proposal)..."

OR do i just send the hook to say gilir or jmarsden for packaging into the
appropriate package?  Cheers

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] apport hooks

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Its not the process that worries me, its the bug of others reporting not
being able to install.

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Mikhail Maksimov wrote:

> Well, it's no rocket science, really ;) Give it a try, maybe you're going
> to enjoy it ;)
>
> Now lubuntu-desktop resides in the official repo so you no longer need the
> add-apt-repository magic... ;)
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:05 AM, matthew byers 
> wrote:
>
>> Well the mini iso idea as great a idea as it is, it proves to be a bit
>> much for a user to simply want to install lubuntu! I just reinstalled 10.10
>> fresh so i may attempt to upgrade from there (maybe, i always was a fan of
>> 10.10)
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Mikhail Maksimov wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> you can try making a bootable USB with Ubuntu mini-ISO, install a
>>> commandline system then apt-get install lubuntu-desktop.
>>>
>>> You can also try upgrading your existing 10.10 install.
>>>
>>> Regards!
>>> Mikhail
>>>
>>>   On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:11 PM, matthew byers <
>>> faintstlsa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>   I used the startup tool in Ubuntu that gave the same results of the
>>>> bug.
>>>>   On May 17, 2011 2:32 AM, "Julien Lavergne" 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Le 17 mai 2011 à 03:20, matthew byers  a
>>>> écrit :
>>>> >
>>>> >> Sounds like fun!! I assume any written now will be for next cycle?
>>>> With that being said, due to this bug:
>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/782997
>>>> >> I am unable to install lubuntu on my netbook or laptop. I ask if
>>>> anybody has been able to take a look at it as i will have to stick to 10.10
>>>> until this is resolved.
>>>> >
>>>> > Yes it is for next cycle and you should use the ubuntu tool to
>>>> generate the USB. It is usually better than unebootin.
>>>> >
>>>> > Regards,
>>>> > Julien Lavergne
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] apport hooks

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Well the mini iso idea as great a idea as it is, it proves to be a bit much
for a user to simply want to install lubuntu! I just reinstalled 10.10 fresh
so i may attempt to upgrade from there (maybe, i always was a fan of 10.10)

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Mikhail Maksimov wrote:

> Hi,
>
> you can try making a bootable USB with Ubuntu mini-ISO, install a
> commandline system then apt-get install lubuntu-desktop.
>
> You can also try upgrading your existing 10.10 install.
>
> Regards!
> Mikhail
>
>   On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:11 PM, matthew byers 
> wrote:
>
>>   I used the startup tool in Ubuntu that gave the same results of the
>> bug.
>>   On May 17, 2011 2:32 AM, "Julien Lavergne" 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Le 17 mai 2011 à 03:20, matthew byers  a écrit
>> :
>> >
>> >> Sounds like fun!! I assume any written now will be for next cycle? With
>> that being said, due to this bug:
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/782997
>> >> I am unable to install lubuntu on my netbook or laptop. I ask if
>> anybody has been able to take a look at it as i will have to stick to 10.10
>> until this is resolved.
>> >
>> > Yes it is for next cycle and you should use the ubuntu tool to generate
>> the USB. It is usually better than unebootin.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Julien Lavergne
>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] apport hooks

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I used the startup tool in Ubuntu that gave the same results of the bug.
On May 17, 2011 2:32 AM, "Julien Lavergne" 
wrote:
>
> Le 17 mai 2011 à 03:20, matthew byers  a écrit :
>
>> Sounds like fun!! I assume any written now will be for next cycle? With
that being said, due to this bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/782997
>> I am unable to install lubuntu on my netbook or laptop. I ask if anybody
has been able to take a look at it as i will have to stick to 10.10 until
this is resolved.
>
> Yes it is for next cycle and you should use the ubuntu tool to generate
the USB. It is usually better than unebootin.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] apport hooks

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Sounds like fun!! I assume any written now will be for next cycle? With that
being said, due to this bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/782997
I am unable to install lubuntu on my netbook or laptop. I ask if anybody has
been able to take a look at it as i will have to stick to 10.10 until this
is resolved.

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 2:01 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> Le Tuesday 17 May 2011 à 00:36 +0300, matthew byers a écrit :
> > Per this page does this mean the listed packages require apport hooks?
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO#Packaging Ubuntu /
> > Debian tasks   Also i thought packages in the ubuntu repository had
> > hooks per this page:
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport/DeveloperHowTo#Package Hooks
>
> You need to write a apport hook to collect additional informations, such
> as configuration files, list of packages installed ... It's something
> you need to add manually, to extend apport support.
>
> Example, for libfm/pcmanfm :
>
> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/oneiric/libfm/oneiric/view/head:/debian/apport/source_libfm.py
>
> Currently, not all LXDE packages have a hook, the list is on the TODO
> page.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
>
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Per this page does this mean the listed packages require apport hooks?
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO#Packaging Ubuntu / Debian
tasks

Also i thought packages in the ubuntu repository had hooks per this page:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport/DeveloperHowTo#Package Hooks

Or am i missing the point all together here?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Image files

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IMO, the more the better. I will be updating the wiki to reflect my download
location so the wiki will have three "Direct" download links on it. But i
feel we need to also update this to reflect on the website to show all the
available downloads. As of now if you go to lubuntu.net and hit "get
lubuntu" you will be downloading directly from gilir's link, (not torrent)
so i suggest we create another site page giving the various download links.

On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 3:04 AM, Kendall Weaver wrote:

> Not answering your question or anything but in regards to the 64 bit .iso,
> please be sure to note that it is a contributed non-official build wherever
> it is referenced.
>
> Thanks.
>
>   On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>
>>  Hi,
>>
>> I know you had a great UDS, with the kind availabilty of the new area for
>> hosting iso's on, what do wish me to do?
>>
>> As torrent is always preferred, I need to update the wiki areas
>> (especially for the new 11.04 64 bit version). I'm guessing that the new
>> hoster becomes primary direct download site, do you still wish me to be a
>> secondary direct download site?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Phill.
>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] more updating...expired domain

[matthew byers]

Mario, got ya, thanks for the clarification.

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Mario Behling  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> we are transferring the lxde.org domain to another host. It will be
> available again from tomorrow on.
>
> Thanks for your hints and patience.
>
> - Mario
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:49 PM, matthew byers 
> wrote:
> > Hey i dont know if Mario Behling is still part of the team but they are
> > listed as the owner of the lubuntu launchpad page and on there are some
> lxde
> > links but since the lxde.org domain expired (2 May 2011) then all the
> other
> > sub-domains went down as well to inlcude:
> > http://lxde.org/
> > http://join.lxde.org/
> > http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Packaging#Who
> > I am not sure if the site just moved elsewhere but all wiki's/launchpad
> and
> > lubuntu website will need to be updated to reflect this if there are any
> > sites still linking to lxde.org.
> > If i am just repeating what everyone already knows then please excuse my
> > ignorance on this!!
> >
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[Lubuntu-desktop] updated site

[matthew byers]

Hey folks i dont know who maintains the lubuntu.net site but i suggest it
get updated to more recent information and download links cause as of now
gilir's direct download is taking the brute force of downloads it seems.

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[Lubuntu-desktop] more updating...expired domain

[matthew byers]

Hey i dont know if Mario Behling is still part of the team but they are
listed as the owner of the lubuntu launchpad page and on there are some lxde
links but since the lxde.org domain expired (2 May 2011) then all the other
sub-domains went down as well to inlcude:

http://lxde.org/
http://join.lxde.org/
http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Packaging#Who

I am not sure if the site
just moved elsewhere but all wiki's/launchpad and lubuntu website will need
to be updated to reflect this if there are any sites still linking to
lxde.org.

If i am just repeating what everyone already knows then please excuse my
ignorance on this!!

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: New mirror available : http://lubuntu.lafibre.info/

[matthew byers]

Sorry, sent to chris only on that one.see below

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From: matthew byers 
Date: Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New mirror available :
http://lubuntu.lafibre.info/
To: Chris 


wiki has been updated to show new download location. I will add my link on
there as soon as i finish uploading.


On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Chris  wrote:

> Also the unofficial 64 bit Natty? ;-)
> On May 13, 2011 2:37 PM, "matthew byers"  wrote:
> > W00T!! Very nice!!
> >
> > On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Julien Lavergne 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> A French company offer us a mirror for all Lubuntu ISO (10.04 to 11.04)
> :
> >> http://lubuntu.lafibre.info/
> >> I encourage you to download there, as we have some statistics on
> downloads
> >> :)
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Julien Lavergne
> >>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New mirror available : http://lubuntu.lafibre.info/

[matthew byers]

W00T!! Very nice!!

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> A French company offer us a mirror for all Lubuntu ISO (10.04 to 11.04) :
> http://lubuntu.lafibre.info/
> I encourage you to download there, as we have some statistics on downloads
> :)
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Benefits of Lubuntu being official (was: Re: Ask Mark session )

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HA! I never knew peppermint was for off lubuntu!!! nice ;)

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Kendall Weaver wrote:

> For the time being, I can go ahead and whip up a 64 bit .iso if there is
> any interest in me doing so. It shouldn't take but a couple of hours. I have
> most of one put together already as I'll need it to build the 64 bit
> Peppermint release.
>
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 04 May 2011 20:38:25 -0700
>> Jonathan Marsden  wrote:
>>
>> > As well as the expected "publicity and marketing" benefits, at a
>> > technical level we would be able to use the official Ubuntu build
>> > infrastructure for creating our ISOs, and official test setups for
>> > tracking which tests have been done on which builds of Lubuntu.
>>
>> We will have also 32, 64 bits ISO, + alternate ISO, + ARM ISO (for mobile
>> devices), for free :)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Julien Lavergne
>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Well done!

[matthew byers]

Very Nice!!

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It is with immense pleasure that I can tell the team that we are now at #4
> on DistroWatch (http://distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=1) for the last
> seven days.
> This is an outstanding achievement. Each and everyone of you should feel
> proud. Lubuntu is a team effort and every bit of input regardless of being
> from telling people about lubuntu or a minor grumble to a major bug fix has
> made 11.04 something quite special.
> I could gloat, but I'll save that for the offtopic channel :P
>
> Thank you to you all,
>
> Phill.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New header

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I do like the blue scheme but i suggest maxing how many topics are shown in
each box to only 4. The orange lettering when looked at long enough for
reading will start to blur together. The BT scheme only uses 4 topics as you
can see compared the the suggested 5 topics.

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Chris  wrote:

> Aloha tout moun, Julien,
>
> I think you meant with "too big" that it's too high. As I'm clueless as to
> how we could split the sub-teams up into two Blocks. As that block become 5
> high, it's no use making the other block smaller, would only look
> weird/ugly. The dark blue top can be made half it's height (better put, the
> height of the font), so that would make it a bit lower. But that's just
> marginally smaller. About the logo's I can be short: they are attachments
> and not links to online images and I didn't upload images to those
> attachments. I've updated the banner to be smaller in height and uploaded
> one image to the attachment of the Main block. Check again here [1] and give
> m your opinions. Note: second logo is still "broken" as in nothing uploaded.
> Need too look for a proper image for there.
>
> With metta,
>
> Chris Druif
>
>  [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MrChrisDruif/Sandbox
>
> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 22:38, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
>
>> Le Monday 02 May 2011 à 21:47 +0200, UndiFineD a écrit :
>> > What would be a small screen for you Julien ?
>>
>> A eeePC 701, 800x480 :)
>>
>> Note that it's not a blocker, just a note :)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Julien Lavergne
>>
>>
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Translations

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Hey folks. Just curious as to what is the process to start the translation
process for lubuntu.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu and updates (wiki standards)

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These two are great start pages:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Wiki
this second page is more focused on guidelines and syntax:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Jonathan Marsden wrote:

> On 04/29/2011 06:10 AM, matthew byers wrote:
>
> > I give a big +1 to ensuring wiki syntax standards are kept the same
> > across the board.
>
> Where can one find the Ubuntu Wiki standards policy?
>
> This would be more useful to me than asking questions each time I edit;
> I can learn to follow the official standard.  Just as there is the
> ubuntu-policy package clearly defining Debian Policy and related
> matters, presumably there is something for Ubuntu wiki standards...?
>
> +1 for following appropriate standards... tell me where I can read the
> appropriate standard please :)
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 11.04 released

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Also folks please update the wiki page if you are offering a location to
download lubuntu iso from. My direct link on wiki will be updated as soon as
i get the chance to download new release and upload. Lets keep these
torrents rolling as well!!! Lubuntu FTW!!!

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Shabab Mustafa
wrote:

> I have already downloaded Ubuntu 11.04 Desktop. Is there any zsync file
> available? It could save lot of my Bandwidth. :(
> ---
> Shabab Mustafa
>
>
> 
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Mario Behling  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> great work the new release!
>>
>> I put it on the site as well.
>>
>> Actually the lubuntu.net is not down, there are just masses of hits
>> making it extremely slow or unavailable for some people.
>>
>> - Mario
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Jared Norris  wrote:
>> > On 29 April 2011 05:05, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Lubuntu 11.04 is now available :
>> >>
>> >>  * Torrent :http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-11.04.iso.torrent
>> >>  * Direct download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-11.04.iso
>> >>  * Md5: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/md5sum.txt
>> >>
>> >
>> > The torrents are ripping along if anyone is curious - heaps of people
>> > seeding, heaps of people downloading - GOOD WORK!
>> >
>> > *snip*
>> >>
>> >> == Links ==
>> >>
>> >>  * Website : http://lubuntu.net/
>> >
>> > Please, if someone can look into lubuntu.net being down that would be
>> > appreciated. It was just reported on the IRC channel and I have
>> confirmed,
>> > it's not working.
>> >
>> >>
>> >>  * Documentation : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
>> >
>> > Are we at the stage of being able to change this to
>> > help.u.c/community/Lubuntu soon?
>> >>
>> >>  * LXDE website : http://lxde.org/
>> >>  * Announcement:
>> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Announcement/NattyNarwhal
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Julien Lavergne
>> >
>> >
>> > A big thank you to everyone involved in this, there are so many people
>> > making Lubuntu the great distribution is is today and as a regular
>> Lubuntu
>> > user I really appreciate everyone's efforts.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych)
>> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris
>> >
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu and updates

[matthew byers]

I give a big +1 to ensuring wiki syntax standards are kept the same across
the board. As a member of the wiki team (BT) i can let everyone know that
there is a bt wiki channel available for questions along with #lubuntu
channel. wiki channel: #ubuntu-beginners-wiki

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Jared Norris  wrote:

>
>  On 29 April 2011 16:14, Jonathan Marsden  wrote:
>
>> On 04/25/2011 10:59 PM, Jared Norris wrote:
>>
>> > On 26 April 2011 15:27, Phill Whiteside  wrote:
>>
>> >> We have to manually subscribe to each page, which is a pain.
>>
>> > I have set up to subscribe to /Lubuntu/.* on both wiki.u.c and
>> > help.u.c which does subscribe you to every change for all sub pages
>> > as well.
>>
>> I thought there *had* to be a better way than manually subscribing to
>> each page, and was about to try to prove it on a local MediaWiki
>> installation -- thanks for saving me the effort :)
>>
>
> Took me a while to find it but I've subscribed to 3 whole teams pages and
> subpageson the wiki so I get lots of mail now.
>
>
>>
>> That should take care of the wiki team tracking changes others make.
>>
>
>
>> Personally, if I find something I think needs changing in a wiki, I'm
>> fairly likely to 'just do it' rather than seek out someone else to make
>> the edit for me, unless I am unsure about what the "right" content
>> should be.  Wiki's are all about empowering everyone to make changes as
>> needed to improve things :)
>>
>
> "Just doing it" is a great way to get everything down, sometimes the
> formatting can be a pain in the backside to keep it "up to standard" though
> (from Ubuntu's perspective). So I'd always encourage anyone and everyone to
> add information to the wiki pages as they find them either wrong or not
> complete. If you aren't sure and are doing more than a little edit by all
> means just drop by the IRC channel or mailing list and ask someone to peruse
> it for you. We're more than happy to help with all the trimmings, just
> having someone willing to do the content more than makes our job easy (I do
> try to keep an eye to the edits as they come through on the subscribed pages
> as well though but it doesn't hurt to double check and if there are a lot it
> takes a while to go through them all).
>
>
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>
>
> Regards,
>
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> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Upgrading Synaptic

[matthew byers]

+1 on that notion

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Chris Druif  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I know it's too late for "new" features for natty, so my request is for
> oneiric. Currently the "Quick search" feature is disabled by default
> with a fresh install, however to make it functional only one of it's
> "recommended" packages needs to be installed as well. This package is
> "apt-xapian-index" (technical information below) which in my opinion is
> a small package to add a greatly appreciative feature of synaptic.
>
> Additional information about it can be found with apt-cache show "apt-
> xapian-index" in terminal. Only the python-xapian dependency wasn't
> installed, who's information I'll also send with this mail.
>
> So please consider to add this to the default installation and thanks
> for considering it.
>
> With metta,
>
> Chris Druif
> Technical information:
>
> Package: apt-xapian-index
> Priority: optional
> Section: admin
> Installed-Size: 240
> Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers 
> Original-Maintainer: Enrico Zini 
> Architecture: all
> Version: 0.25ubuntu2
> Depends: python, python-xapian (>= 1.0.2), python-apt (>= 0.7.93.2),
> python-debian (>= 0.1.13)
> Filename: pool/main/a/apt-xapian-index/apt-xapian-
> index_0.25ubuntu2_all.deb
> Size: 37506
>
> Package: python-xapian
> Priority: optional
> Section: python
> Installed-Size: 1064
> Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers 
> Original-Maintainer: Olly Betts 
> Architecture: i386
> Source: xapian-bindings
> Version: 1.0.17-1ubuntu1
> Replaces: python2.1-xapian (<< 0.9.6-3), python2.2-xapian (<< 0.9.6-3),
> python2.3-xapian (<< 0.9.6-3), python2.4-xapian (<< 0.9.6-3)
> Provides: python2.6-xapian
> Depends: python (<< 2.7), python (>= 2.6), python-central (>= 0.6.11),
> libc6 (>= 2.4), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1), libxapian15
> (>= 1.0.17)
> Suggests: xapian-doc
> Conflicts: python2.1-xapian (<< 0.9.6-3), python2.2-xapian (<< 0.9.6-3),
> python2.3-xapian (<< 0.9.6-3), python2.4-xapian (<< 0.9.6-3)
> Filename: pool/main/x/xapian-bindings/python-
> xapian_1.0.17-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Any major "must fix before Beta" issues left in Lubuntu?

[matthew byers]

Though I have not had time to properly test this out if it now takes more
ram to install I think we need to address that soon. Lets not lose sight of
what lubuntu is just because we are trying to please others. Lubuntus small
footprint is a high quality of it so I would hate to see that go.
On Mar 28, 2011 4:36 PM, "Julien Lavergne" 
wrote:
> Le dimanche 27 mars 2011 à 18:28 -0700, Jonathan Marsden a écrit :
>>
>> Some sort of "punch list" of the (hopefully few) remaining serious
>> issues we need to address before releasing Lubuntu 11.04 Beta1 would
>> be
>> really good to have. I don't feel qualified to create it...
>
> I'm not aware of any blocking issues for Beta 1. It still needs some
> polishing, but it can be done after the Beta Freeze.
>
> Of course, if anyone is aware of any annoying bugs, feel free to ping
> the mailing list.
>
> I'll try to start testing Beta ISO tomorrow, and see if any of the
> issues you mention are reproductible here.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
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[Lubuntu-desktop] command makewhatis

[matthew byers]

I am trying to create a manpage. I have made the gzip file but everytime i
run makewhatis i get the "command not found" output. Nor am i able to
install it. I have no experience in this area aside from google so all help
will be appreciated. I need to know what package is managing the man pages
in lubuntu.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio players - some thoughts & RFC

[matthew byers]

@Andres, he is not trying to be a jerk or anything but as with any type of
development there is a process. Once a application has been determined for a
OS than work begins to ensure full compatibility and bug fixes. If you try
and change up apps in the middle of development than you must start this
entire process over with. If you would like to see another application for
future releases than you can bring it up *prior* to the development of that
OS release.

2011/3/12 Jorge Andrés 

> On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:23:27 +
> Yorvyk  wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 13:19:25 +0100
> > Julien Lavergne  wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Just a quick note, I'll *NOT* discuss again and again about the music
> > > player. The choice was done for 11.04, and I don't attempt to change
> > > this choice for futur version. This is really a waste of time.
> > >
> > > We will be able to discuss this for the 11.10, during the usual
> > > schedule. Outside this, don't expect any answer from me, or any changes
> > > for the choice.
>
> > > I'll *NOT* discuss again ... I don't attempt
>
> :( this is not a democracy
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Natty Alpha 3 released

[matthew byers]

Sorry for the delay but i have uploaded the alpha iso (and md5sum) to here:
http://people.ubuntu.com/~stlsaint/
and it has been updated on the wiki (it is the second "direct download" link
posted on the wiki below philws link! Enjoy folks! :D

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> Le vendredi 11 mars 2011 à 17:11 +0300, matthew byers a écrit :
> > Does that space issue only pertain to your account? Im asking because
> > i have nothing in my allocated space for my ubuntu.com space so i
> > would be more than happy to host iso from there if possible!
>
> Only my account, because I host also the 10.10 ISO. So when I add
> another ISO, I reach my 1 Gb limitation :)
> I'll be glad if you can host the ISO :) Please add also the md5sum txt
> file for ISO checking, and a link to the ISO on the wiki.
>
> Regards,
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>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Natty Alpha 3 released

[matthew byers]

Does that space issue only pertain to your account? Im asking because i have
nothing in my allocated space for my ubuntu.com space so i would be more
than happy to host iso from there if possible!

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> Le vendredi 04 mars 2011 à 18:39 +0100, Julien Lavergne a écrit :
> > == Download ==
> > Torrent:
> > http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-natty-alpha3.iso.torrent
> > Download: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-natty-alpha3.iso
> > Md5: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/md5sum.txt
> >
>
> Due to usual space problem, the ISO was removed from the
> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/ server. Please use instead the torrent
> or phillw server : http://phillw.net/lubuntu-natty-alpha3.iso .
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ask yourself...

[matthew byers]

Also Tim, out of your list of what you expect, "lightweight" is not one of
them which is what most of lubuntu is about. Being able to effectively run
on low resource systemsnot be able to video edit while streaming movies
and video chatting and editing your homework all at once (although it can
from my experience). You can do all that but at the sacrifice of some
resources ie: RAM! If lubuntu was to fit your categories of expectations
than they wouldnt be able to install and run on 1GB or less! If you havent
already please read the lubuntu wiki to better understand the purpose here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Me  wrote:

> The problem with the 'do everything for everybody' approach is ending up
> like xubuntu ie take a lightweight de and add all the bloat from ubuntu to
> end up with something that is just as heavy.
>
> Surely if people want the simple do everything out of the box approach they
> can just use ubuntu.
>
> On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:10:12 -, Tim Bernhard 
> wrote:
>
> What should Lubuntu do?
>>
>> I realize that being lightweight is a major focus for Lubuntu and I agree
>> 100%.  But keep in mind that the average user will have expectations for
>> their OS and that not everyone will use it only on older hardware (Lubuntu
>> is too nice not to use it on modern hardware!)
>>
>> My main point is that Lubuntu should be for "everyone" and not just us
>> "tweakers and geekers".  I want to be able to install it on anyone's
>> computer and not have to worry about what it won't do for them.
>>
>> So my question is what dose the average user expect their OS to do "out of
>> the box"?  Pretend you are putting it on someone's  machine.  Maybe your
>> mother, or the neighbor who has never used anything other than Windows.
>> What will they expect?
>>
>> Here's my list:
>> - be efficient (most overlooked by most OS)
>> - handle music, video and Internet
>> - find anything on my local network
>> - download and open files properly
>> - let me use it with external monitors/TV as a basic media player (HDMI
>> out)
>> - have basic office apps (even though I don't use them)
>> - allow basic personalization (LXDE's lack of menu editor is a bummer, but
>> I
>> don't fault anyone for that.)
>>
>> Lubuntu has come pretty close to meeting my expectations.  I've had to
>> tweak
>> a little bit and I might still be missing a few things here and there, but
>> overall, I love it.  The one area it blows everything else away is with
>> it's
>> efficiency.  It seems like that's the most overlooked item in all the
>> other
>> Ubuntu variants I've used.
>>
>> Tim
>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ENCRYPTION PROBLEM AFTER PERFORMING "Install Lubuntu from Ubuntu or any other Ubuntu flavors"

[matthew byers]

I am not adequate enough in encryption to offer any help but i would point
in the direction of ibuclaw of our UBT. He has done encryption tutorials on
the UF and he is the primary person i would turn to if i were in
the situation in this area. I would join the irc to catch him or contact him
directly via the UBT mailing list.

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 8:23 AM, Jared Norris  wrote:

> On 10 February 2011 09:25, Lionel Smith  wrote:
> > Hi Jared,
> > I followed carefully your instructions on the Ubuntu Community
> Documentation
> > site to convert my desktop Ubuntu 10.10 to Lubuntu 10.10, but it has left
> me
> > with the apparently disastrous situation of not being able to get into my
> > home folder containing my precious data. I did not back up as I did
> > not envisage the problem I'm now faced with.
> > Can you help, either directly or by suggesting people I can turn to?
> > My knowledge of linux and shell are very meagre.
> > If you can't help directly, I'm wondering if you have contacts in London
> > (where I live) that could help & you could put me in touch with? I would
> be
> > willing to pay an expert (not a huge amount as I'm on a state pension).
> > The problem is detailed in the attachment. Thanks for any help you can
> give.
> > Lionel Smith
> > PS I followed the news of the awful floods in Queensland and hope you and
> > your friends and family are ok.
> >
> >
>
> Lionel,
>
> Sorry to hear about the situation, I personally have no experience at
> all with encrypted drives as I have never used them. So what I am
> doing instead is forwarding your email on to the Lubuntu team email
> address (lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net - for more information
> check out the team launchpad site at
> https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop so you can join up and follow
> the topic) with your attachment so that someone else with more
> experience in the issue might be able to assist you.
>
> Lubuntu-Team,
>
> Lionel has detailed his experience in the attached PDF so if you can
> please have a quick read (it's only a page or two) and try to help him
> out with his encryption error that would really be appreciated. If you
> can also please ensure you have both the list and Lionel's emails in
> the "to" or "cc" field as I don't know if he is currently subscribed
> to the list and may miss replies if not sent directly to him as well.
>
> Thanks one and all and hopefully we can get this sorted.
>
> Regards,
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Dumb question...

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In my understanding, no the iso is not updated. Once the OS is released than
it only gets updated once you install and update it yourself.

On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Tim Bernhard  wrote:

> Does the download image on Lubuntu.net get updated?
>
> I downloaded the 10.10 ISO I have back in October.  If I were to download
> 10.10 image today would it be any different?
>
> Thanks,
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Panel bug

[matthew byers]

@Andrew, you are right. Bad thing for me is i remembered this too late.
Thanks for the heads up on this. Makes it viable to shutdown!

On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 12:28 AM, Andrew Woodhead <
andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com> wrote:

> CTRL+ALT+T will give a terminal in default lubuntu and ubuntu (i
> believe kubuntu too)
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 29, 2010, matthew byers 
> wrote:
> > WARNING: If i am correct in the discovery of this bug it will make your
> panel disappear and force you to hard kill your system (unless you have Hot
> Keys setup to get to a terminal without panel!)
> > So i think i have found a bug and here are the steps to reproduce:
> > 1. Right click on panel and select, "Add/Remove Panel Items"2. Select
> the, "Panel Applets" tab3. Click on the double window "iconfiy" icon in
> bottom left corner of screen next to virtual desktops
> >
> > Again i state if i am correct in this than your panel should disappear
> and you will have to reboot system to get it back. I tried using Task
> Manager to get panel back but was unsuccessful. I did this in a installed
> environment, NOT in virtual box so i suggest maybe trying in virtual box if
> lubuntu is your only OS installed on system.
> >
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Panel bug

[matthew byers]

WARNING: If i am correct in the discovery of this bug it will make your
panel disappear and force you to hard kill your system (unless you have Hot
Keys setup to get to a terminal without panel!)

So i think i have found a bug and here are the steps to reproduce:
1. Right click on panel and select, "Add/Remove Panel Items"
2. Select the, "Panel Applets" tab
3. Click on the double window "iconfiy" icon in bottom left corner of screen
next to virtual desktops

Again i state if i am correct in this than your panel should disappear and
you will have to reboot system to get it back. I tried using Task Manager to
get panel back but was unsuccessful. I did this in a installed environment,
NOT in virtual box so i suggest maybe trying in virtual box if lubuntu is
your only OS installed on system.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu v. LXDE

[matthew byers]

1. The primary difference between ANY distro is the package selection and
desktop environment and yes that is where the primary difference between
lubuntu and ubuntu resides.
2. Yes you can install any environment( *box) you like.
3. I have never looked at the contents of the metapackage/core packages you
were asking about so i would assume you would have to dig further for that
information.

Lubuntu aims to use a tremendously less amount of resources while still
retaining stability and energy saving. So to say it is "just package
differences" is a bit underestimating the abilities of the distro.

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Todd Schulman wrote:

> First, I'm not asking to be antagonistic, just out of ignorance on the
> subject.
>
> So there's no other integration behind the scenes (daemons, etc.);
> it's just a selection of apps and a desktop background?
>
> Doesn't vanilla openbox have the right-click menu? I thought the start
> menu was an lxde-specific change, and there would be some way to get
> it back since lxde uses openbox.
>
> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Andrew Woodhead
>  wrote:
> > LXDE is ONLY the desktop environment with a VERY small group of apps.
> > LUbuntu is an OS with LXDE as well as some select apps chosen by the
> users,
> > for the users.
> > You can install fluxbox and selct it as your WM instead of openbox, this
> > will ive you the right click menu you desire.
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Todd Schulman 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> 1. Can someone explain simply what distinguishes Lubuntu from vanilla
> >> LXDE, and the following packages: lubuntu-desktop from lxde
> (metapackage)
> >> and lubuntu-core from lxde-core?
> >>
> >> 2. Can it be configured to use right-click menus like fluxbox instead of
> a
> >> start menu?
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Zentyal

[matthew byers]

Well when you ask if there are any "connections or communications" it makes
it seem as if your wondering if the two are connected. Better wording should
be used next time maybe! ;)
And look here for distros with lxde:
http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Linux_Distributions
and just because a
distro uses a certain environment doesnt mean they need to have anything in
common. Im not sure where you would see how a desktop spin like lubuntu and
a server suite like zentyal have anything to do with each other? Maybe there
is something im missint out of what you are suggesting??

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Liam Proven  wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 6:24 AM, Andrew Woodhead
>  wrote:
> > A server OS with an X server, thats so not right
>
> Hey, neither is top-quoting, spelling "that's" without an apostrophe
> or ending a sentence without a full stop.
>
> Zentyal is not bad, actually. It doesn't need a GUI, but like Ubuntu,
> it's not optional - you get what they give you. And at least it's a
> low-resource GUI.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Zentyal

[matthew byers]

Zentyal is nothing more then the old "all in one server" ebox! (i used it
before) This is not related to the Lubuntu distro. There are many linux
respins that use lxde. Lubuntu is not (unless hidden from the public) in any
way tailored to or around zentyal nor interacts with its development!

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Liam Proven  wrote:

> I was wondering if there was any connection or communications between
> the Lubuntu team and that behind the Zentyal Ubuntu-based server
> distro, as its desktop too is based on LXDE. I'm not aware of any
> other Ubuntu remixes with LXDE.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] People having trouble with dualboots?

[matthew byers]

If it will help the cause of getting os-prober installed by default that i
will chime in with my two cents and say that i too had that issue and i have
been an advid linux user for over a year and i have never had to install
os-prober! (thanks bioterror!) I mean i could understand if we were talking
about some development tools like the "build-essentials" package not being
installed by default but os-prober affects ALOT of people as most dont just
single boot lubuntu!

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:

> Hi Julien,
>
> I've had a chance to have a chat with "Mr Grub" (Dave Stan, who writes up
> and maintains the grub community documentation etc.) A brief summary of our
> chat is..
>
> (15:12:32) drs305_: phillw: As far as I've seen, lubuntu is the only one
> that doesn't ship os-prober. It's ridiculous and I have no idea why they
> didn't include it.
> (15:13:28) drs305_: "Oh, I'm new. I can't find Windows. I know - I'll
> install os-prober and that will find it. Good thing I knew that"
>
> Such calls are also hitting the main forum area, could I suggest that we
> include it. It is covered on 
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/CommonIssuesalong with the gvfs-backends one, 
> but they are causing support queries to be
> raised.
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
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> On 2 November 2010 12:39, Glenn de Groot wrote:
>
>> Are you using 10.10? 
>> It only seems to be found in Lubuntu 10.10.
>> And do you have a windows partition, is it found by grub?
>>
>> > Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 09:08:46 +
>> > From: yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com
>> > To: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
>>
>> > Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] People having trouble with dualboots?
>> >
>>  > On Tue, 2 Nov 2010 08:29:42 +
>> > Glenn de Groot  wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Hi zoltan,
>> > > nice to hear your problem is solved now. This problem is pretty big
>> for first time users and I think affects every dual-boot user. Should we
>> post this (with the fix) on the lubuntu website or on a blog like OMG
>> ubuntu?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > I’ve not had this problem, all the other (Linux) OS have been picked up
>> by GRUB. But, if others are, then the cure should be in the Wiki.
>> Personally, I don’t regard OMG Ubuntu as a reliable source.
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