Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver
Hai everyone, Agreed the screensaver shouldn't be energy consuming, it should be the opposite. I like Mod4 + L for locking btw. Cheers, Chris Druif I like 2011/2/25 Marcelo Zacarias da Silva marc...@ciagri.usp.br On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 05:08:32PM -0500, Jorge Andrés Alvarez Oré wrote: The first time that i installed Lubuntu I've surprised when see that the default screensaver consume 60-70% of my processor. So i deactivated it. For me turn off the monitor in x minutes is enough. Lubuntu is not only for slow machine, it's a energy saving OS too. In the lubuntu.net home page say it: lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and *energy saving* variant of Ubuntu using LXDE. So, in my opinion xscreensaver should be removed and gnome-power-preferences should be in the start menu (or whatever you call :)) Agreed. IMHO, running CPU intensive programs when the user is way makes no sense. An option to blank and/or lock the screen (automatically or by user request, like CTRL-ALT-L in Ubuntu) is useful (again, IMHO). -- Marcelo Zacarias da Silva Analista de Sistemas - CIAGRI/USP Linux User #4253 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver
Lubuntu team: Since Lubuntu is targeted for low-spec computers, xcreensaver is not a good choice to use since it causes problems such as: - In my three (old) machines I must kill the xcreensaver daemon in order to be able to install the system. - The idea is to make a good-looking effect but with older video cards the screensaver hangs or it is terribly slow. In fact in those three machines, once Lubuntu is installed I just remove xcreensaver and let the power-manager doing the trick of shutting-off my screen. It saves me from another app-running and the effect wanted is done (and even better since it shutts the screen off, it doesn't blank it... so it's *more energy efficiency for Lubuntu*) Speaking about this to Julien he pointed me to a problem I haven't seen: lock the screen. So, Googling a little i've found xtrlock, something very lightweigth to use that locks the screen until you type your user pass: everything is locked and your mouse pointer becomes a blue lock (but since the screen will be off, you won't tell ;) The way to implement this would be that as soon as the power-manager shuts off the screen it launches the xtrlock... but this would take Lubuntu devs to perform the task of coding it into the gnome-power-manager. I stop here, waiting for reactions and good-wellcoming :) Very humbly, -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver
Haven't screen-savers been around forever? Should most hardware be able to handle them? Does Lubuntu need to be stripped down further? I sort of think that many users expect a screen-saver built into their OS. I know my mother-in-law loves them for some reason. :) Personally, I have no use for screen-savers, especially since I'm concerned with maximizing battery life. But Lubuntu needs to satisfy all users. Would shipping Lubuntu with xscreensaver disabled by default be a better option? Also, I hate screen locks on my machines. I would NOT want my screen to lock every time it went blank. Having it as an option would be nice, but not as default. Tim On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote: On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:23:36 -0300 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote: Lubuntu team: Since Lubuntu is targeted for low-spec computers, xcreensaver is not a good choice to use since it causes problems such as: - In my three (old) machines I must kill the xcreensaver daemon in order to be able to install the system. - The idea is to make a good-looking effect but with older video cards the screensaver hangs or it is terribly slow. In fact in those three machines, once Lubuntu is installed I just remove xcreensaver and let the power-manager doing the trick of shutting-off my screen. It saves me from another app-running and the effect wanted is done (and even better since it shutts the screen off, it doesn't blank it... so it's *more energy efficiency for Lubuntu*) Speaking about this to Julien he pointed me to a problem I haven't seen: lock the screen. So, Googling a little i've found xtrlock, something very lightweigth to use that locks the screen until you type your user pass: everything is locked and your mouse pointer becomes a blue lock (but since the screen will be off, you won't tell ;) The way to implement this would be that as soon as the power-manager shuts off the screen it launches the xtrlock... but this would take Lubuntu devs to perform the task of coding it into the gnome-power-manager. I stop here, waiting for reactions and good-wellcoming :) I think I've commented before about screen-savers. I have never seen a justifiable reason for there existence apart from locking the machine if required.. They serve no other purpose, other than using energy, like you, I either disable or remove them from my machines. Your idea for locking the machine for those that require this function but, it's a bit late in the cycle for anything new to be implemented as feature freeze occurs at the end of the month. I would suggest putting it on launchpad as a feature request. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver
The first time that i installed Lubuntu I've surprised when see that the default screensaver consume 60-70% of my processor. So i deactivated it. For me turn off the monitor in x minutes is enough. Lubuntu is not only for slow machine, it's a energy saving OS too. In the lubuntu.net home page say it: lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and *energy saving* variant of Ubuntu using LXDE. So, in my opinion xscreensaver should be removed and gnome-power-preferences should be in the start menu (or whatever you call :)) 2011/2/24 Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com Haven't screen-savers been around forever? Should most hardware be able to handle them? Does Lubuntu need to be stripped down further? I sort of think that many users expect a screen-saver built into their OS. I know my mother-in-law loves them for some reason. :) Personally, I have no use for screen-savers, especially since I'm concerned with maximizing battery life. But Lubuntu needs to satisfy all users. Would shipping Lubuntu with xscreensaver disabled by default be a better option? Also, I hate screen locks on my machines. I would NOT want my screen to lock every time it went blank. Having it as an option would be nice, but not as default. Tim On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote: On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:23:36 -0300 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote: Lubuntu team: Since Lubuntu is targeted for low-spec computers, xcreensaver is not a good choice to use since it causes problems such as: - In my three (old) machines I must kill the xcreensaver daemon in order to be able to install the system. - The idea is to make a good-looking effect but with older video cards the screensaver hangs or it is terribly slow. In fact in those three machines, once Lubuntu is installed I just remove xcreensaver and let the power-manager doing the trick of shutting-off my screen. It saves me from another app-running and the effect wanted is done (and even better since it shutts the screen off, it doesn't blank it... so it's *more energy efficiency for Lubuntu*) Speaking about this to Julien he pointed me to a problem I haven't seen: lock the screen. So, Googling a little i've found xtrlock, something very lightweigth to use that locks the screen until you type your user pass: everything is locked and your mouse pointer becomes a blue lock (but since the screen will be off, you won't tell ;) The way to implement this would be that as soon as the power-manager shuts off the screen it launches the xtrlock... but this would take Lubuntu devs to perform the task of coding it into the gnome-power-manager. I stop here, waiting for reactions and good-wellcoming :) I think I've commented before about screen-savers. I have never seen a justifiable reason for there existence apart from locking the machine if required.. They serve no other purpose, other than using energy, like you, I either disable or remove them from my machines. Your idea for locking the machine for those that require this function but, it's a bit late in the cycle for anything new to be implemented as feature freeze occurs at the end of the month. I would suggest putting it on launchpad as a feature request. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver
I have never seen a justifiable reason for there existence apart from locking the machine if required. Personally, i never lock the screen but i'm asuming that's a feature needed. Also, I hate screen locks on my machines. I would NOT want my screen to lock every time it went blank. Having it as an option would be nice, but not as default. xlock can be launched without password confirmation: xlock -nolock - this should be configurable. They serve no other purpose, other than using energy. The first time that i installed Lubuntu I've surprised when see that the default screensaver consume 60-70% of my processor. I couldn't be more agree. ... it's a energy saving OS too. In the lubuntu.net home page say it: lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and *energy saving* variant of Ubuntu using LXDE I think this is a crucial point according to the amount of cpu needed and the fact that it's an app running on the background consuming Ram... one of the goals of Lubuntu is to be *efficient* For the screen saving, It's relative to CRT screen, which are still used. But, having the ability to switch to a blank image maybe is enough. And I don't think xlock can do it. Just try xlock -mode blank for the blank image. Haven't screen-savers been around forever? Does Lubuntu need to be stripped down further? Been playing a little with xlock and it's sort of a lightweight-screensaver too, it draws on the screen things that i think most hardware can handle (i'll give it a try on my old amd-k6 to tell this) - This screensaver should be configurable if the user wants a blank screen or the aleatory screensaver set by default in xlock Should most hardware be able to handle them? Short answer, i think screensavers for old hardware were not exactly those in xcreensaver since it demands a good video card to work smoothly. xlock resulted to me much more attractive than xtrlock, but the problem remains the same: it can't be launched alone when the machine's been idle for a determined amount of time, so the idea that it depends on the power-manager to start sounds like a solution to me (so there are no additional daemons or apps running). Also xlock options could be handled in a new tab in the UI of gnome-power-manager, since they would be bundled (just ideas...) I would suggest putting it on launchpad as a feature request. Yes, but i don't know exactly how to say it in short words. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
