Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin Suggestion
Le samedi 26 février 2011 à 23:24 -0300, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit : Finally understood what you mean: Those packages affect every libnotify action! And i must say they get way nicer... wich process should i check to see if it's heavier than before?? Only pidgin I think, and all RAM consumption, just to be sure. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin Suggestion
Le dimanche 27 février 2011 à 17:38 -0300, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit : There's no difference in with or wihtout it!! The system runs as perfect as before ;) Even better: those packages fix a little problem i did have with libnotify (when the balloon where drawed as a comic balloon, something became ugly and pixeled... now that is no more :) Ok, added. We will see if people complain or not about this :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin Suggestion
Finally understood what you mean: Those packages affect every libnotify action! And i must say they get way nicer... wich process should i check to see if it's heavier than before?? 2011/2/25 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com 2011/2/25 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 23:32 -0300, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit : Can't really tell any difference... so i ran pidgin with and without it and there's no difference seeing it with xfce4-taskmanager It's more about the visual between the 2 notifications. I suspect we have the same with or without this plugin install. Sorry, i think i'm missing something (english problems), but Pidgin doesn't manage notifications without this plugin installed, so can i compare them? -- jpxsat -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver
Hai everyone, Agreed the screensaver shouldn't be energy consuming, it should be the opposite. I like Mod4 + L for locking btw. Cheers, Chris Druif I like 2011/2/25 Marcelo Zacarias da Silva marc...@ciagri.usp.br On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 05:08:32PM -0500, Jorge Andrés Alvarez Oré wrote: The first time that i installed Lubuntu I've surprised when see that the default screensaver consume 60-70% of my processor. So i deactivated it. For me turn off the monitor in x minutes is enough. Lubuntu is not only for slow machine, it's a energy saving OS too. In the lubuntu.net home page say it: lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and *energy saving* variant of Ubuntu using LXDE. So, in my opinion xscreensaver should be removed and gnome-power-preferences should be in the start menu (or whatever you call :)) Agreed. IMHO, running CPU intensive programs when the user is way makes no sense. An option to blank and/or lock the screen (automatically or by user request, like CTRL-ALT-L in Ubuntu) is useful (again, IMHO). -- Marcelo Zacarias da Silva Analista de Sistemas - CIAGRI/USP Linux User #4253 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin Suggestion
Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 23:32 -0300, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit : Do you have the difference between the 2 notifications, with and without pidgin-libnotify ? Can't really tell any difference... so i ran pidgin with and without it and there's no difference seeing it with xfce4-taskmanager It's more about the visual between the 2 notifications. I suspect we have the same with or without this plugin install. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin Suggestion
2011/2/25 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 23:32 -0300, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit : Can't really tell any difference... so i ran pidgin with and without it and there's no difference seeing it with xfce4-taskmanager It's more about the visual between the 2 notifications. I suspect we have the same with or without this plugin install. Sorry, i think i'm missing something (english problems), but Pidgin doesn't manage notifications without this plugin installed, so can i compare them? -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin Suggestion
On 02/23/2011 07:53 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: Since Lubuntu uses libnotify for NM, transmission, power-management Gnome-Mplayer I would like to make a very humble suggestion package to be included on lubuntu: pidgin-libnotify. It would be nice to have an unified looking desktop. I'm testing it since a few days and it works great so far. This sounds like a good idea to me, as long as pidgin-libnotify does not depend on a bunch of other packages which are not already in Lubuntu. Can you test this (install a fresh Lubuntu, then do sudo apt-get -s install pidgin-libnotify and see how many (and which) other packages would be installed) and let the list know the results? Thanks, Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin Suggestion
Since Lubuntu uses libnotify for NM, transmission, power-management Gnome-Mplayer I would like to make a very humble suggestion package to be included on lubuntu: pidgin-libnotify. It would be nice to have an unified looking desktop. I'm testing it since a few days and it works great so far. This sounds like a good idea to me, as long as pidgin-libnotify does not depend on a bunch of other packages which are not already in Lubuntu. Can you test this (install a fresh Lubuntu, then do sudo apt-get -s install pidgin-libnotify and see how many (and which) other packages would be installed) and let the list know the results? Team: Here's what Jonathan asked: Package to be included: pidgin-libnotify (295kb installed) ... and it depends on: libindicate-gtk2 libindicate4 (180kb both installed) That's for 10.04, but i guess that in newer versions it should be the same. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver
Lubuntu team: Since Lubuntu is targeted for low-spec computers, xcreensaver is not a good choice to use since it causes problems such as: - In my three (old) machines I must kill the xcreensaver daemon in order to be able to install the system. - The idea is to make a good-looking effect but with older video cards the screensaver hangs or it is terribly slow. In fact in those three machines, once Lubuntu is installed I just remove xcreensaver and let the power-manager doing the trick of shutting-off my screen. It saves me from another app-running and the effect wanted is done (and even better since it shutts the screen off, it doesn't blank it... so it's *more energy efficiency for Lubuntu*) Speaking about this to Julien he pointed me to a problem I haven't seen: lock the screen. So, Googling a little i've found xtrlock, something very lightweigth to use that locks the screen until you type your user pass: everything is locked and your mouse pointer becomes a blue lock (but since the screen will be off, you won't tell ;) The way to implement this would be that as soon as the power-manager shuts off the screen it launches the xtrlock... but this would take Lubuntu devs to perform the task of coding it into the gnome-power-manager. I stop here, waiting for reactions and good-wellcoming :) Very humbly, -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver
Haven't screen-savers been around forever? Should most hardware be able to handle them? Does Lubuntu need to be stripped down further? I sort of think that many users expect a screen-saver built into their OS. I know my mother-in-law loves them for some reason. :) Personally, I have no use for screen-savers, especially since I'm concerned with maximizing battery life. But Lubuntu needs to satisfy all users. Would shipping Lubuntu with xscreensaver disabled by default be a better option? Also, I hate screen locks on my machines. I would NOT want my screen to lock every time it went blank. Having it as an option would be nice, but not as default. Tim On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote: On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:23:36 -0300 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote: Lubuntu team: Since Lubuntu is targeted for low-spec computers, xcreensaver is not a good choice to use since it causes problems such as: - In my three (old) machines I must kill the xcreensaver daemon in order to be able to install the system. - The idea is to make a good-looking effect but with older video cards the screensaver hangs or it is terribly slow. In fact in those three machines, once Lubuntu is installed I just remove xcreensaver and let the power-manager doing the trick of shutting-off my screen. It saves me from another app-running and the effect wanted is done (and even better since it shutts the screen off, it doesn't blank it... so it's *more energy efficiency for Lubuntu*) Speaking about this to Julien he pointed me to a problem I haven't seen: lock the screen. So, Googling a little i've found xtrlock, something very lightweigth to use that locks the screen until you type your user pass: everything is locked and your mouse pointer becomes a blue lock (but since the screen will be off, you won't tell ;) The way to implement this would be that as soon as the power-manager shuts off the screen it launches the xtrlock... but this would take Lubuntu devs to perform the task of coding it into the gnome-power-manager. I stop here, waiting for reactions and good-wellcoming :) I think I've commented before about screen-savers. I have never seen a justifiable reason for there existence apart from locking the machine if required.. They serve no other purpose, other than using energy, like you, I either disable or remove them from my machines. Your idea for locking the machine for those that require this function but, it's a bit late in the cycle for anything new to be implemented as feature freeze occurs at the end of the month. I would suggest putting it on launchpad as a feature request. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver
The first time that i installed Lubuntu I've surprised when see that the default screensaver consume 60-70% of my processor. So i deactivated it. For me turn off the monitor in x minutes is enough. Lubuntu is not only for slow machine, it's a energy saving OS too. In the lubuntu.net home page say it: lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and *energy saving* variant of Ubuntu using LXDE. So, in my opinion xscreensaver should be removed and gnome-power-preferences should be in the start menu (or whatever you call :)) 2011/2/24 Tim Bernhard ohiom...@gmail.com Haven't screen-savers been around forever? Should most hardware be able to handle them? Does Lubuntu need to be stripped down further? I sort of think that many users expect a screen-saver built into their OS. I know my mother-in-law loves them for some reason. :) Personally, I have no use for screen-savers, especially since I'm concerned with maximizing battery life. But Lubuntu needs to satisfy all users. Would shipping Lubuntu with xscreensaver disabled by default be a better option? Also, I hate screen locks on my machines. I would NOT want my screen to lock every time it went blank. Having it as an option would be nice, but not as default. Tim On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote: On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:23:36 -0300 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote: Lubuntu team: Since Lubuntu is targeted for low-spec computers, xcreensaver is not a good choice to use since it causes problems such as: - In my three (old) machines I must kill the xcreensaver daemon in order to be able to install the system. - The idea is to make a good-looking effect but with older video cards the screensaver hangs or it is terribly slow. In fact in those three machines, once Lubuntu is installed I just remove xcreensaver and let the power-manager doing the trick of shutting-off my screen. It saves me from another app-running and the effect wanted is done (and even better since it shutts the screen off, it doesn't blank it... so it's *more energy efficiency for Lubuntu*) Speaking about this to Julien he pointed me to a problem I haven't seen: lock the screen. So, Googling a little i've found xtrlock, something very lightweigth to use that locks the screen until you type your user pass: everything is locked and your mouse pointer becomes a blue lock (but since the screen will be off, you won't tell ;) The way to implement this would be that as soon as the power-manager shuts off the screen it launches the xtrlock... but this would take Lubuntu devs to perform the task of coding it into the gnome-power-manager. I stop here, waiting for reactions and good-wellcoming :) I think I've commented before about screen-savers. I have never seen a justifiable reason for there existence apart from locking the machine if required.. They serve no other purpose, other than using energy, like you, I either disable or remove them from my machines. Your idea for locking the machine for those that require this function but, it's a bit late in the cycle for anything new to be implemented as feature freeze occurs at the end of the month. I would suggest putting it on launchpad as a feature request. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin Suggestion
Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 14:06 -0300, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit : ... and it depends on: libindicate-gtk2 libindicate4 (180kb both installed) Hum, I don't see them by default on my Natty system. And it probably means that those library will be loaded. But, there are relative to indicators, and we don't use indicators by default. So, it's probably some useless ressources (not too much, but still). Do you have the difference between the 2 notifications, with and with out pidgin-libnotify ? Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin Suggestion
And it probably means that those library will be loaded. That's correct :) (that's why i've posted the kb from each package) Do you have the difference between the 2 notifications, with and without pidgin-libnotify ? Can't really tell any difference... so i ran pidgin with and without it and there's no difference seeing it with xfce4-taskmanager 2011/2/24 Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com Hai Julian, Have you got pidgin installed, as on Ubuntu Maverick it's installed when I use the PPA (so I'm not sure with the repos version). And I'd need to install libnotify to use it in Lubuntu? Shouldn't it be activated/installed by default? Giving the Ubuntu feeling? Food for thought, Chris Druif -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea/Suggestion to say goodbye to xcreensaver
I have never seen a justifiable reason for there existence apart from locking the machine if required. Personally, i never lock the screen but i'm asuming that's a feature needed. Also, I hate screen locks on my machines. I would NOT want my screen to lock every time it went blank. Having it as an option would be nice, but not as default. xlock can be launched without password confirmation: xlock -nolock - this should be configurable. They serve no other purpose, other than using energy. The first time that i installed Lubuntu I've surprised when see that the default screensaver consume 60-70% of my processor. I couldn't be more agree. ... it's a energy saving OS too. In the lubuntu.net home page say it: lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and *energy saving* variant of Ubuntu using LXDE I think this is a crucial point according to the amount of cpu needed and the fact that it's an app running on the background consuming Ram... one of the goals of Lubuntu is to be *efficient* For the screen saving, It's relative to CRT screen, which are still used. But, having the ability to switch to a blank image maybe is enough. And I don't think xlock can do it. Just try xlock -mode blank for the blank image. Haven't screen-savers been around forever? Does Lubuntu need to be stripped down further? Been playing a little with xlock and it's sort of a lightweight-screensaver too, it draws on the screen things that i think most hardware can handle (i'll give it a try on my old amd-k6 to tell this) - This screensaver should be configurable if the user wants a blank screen or the aleatory screensaver set by default in xlock Should most hardware be able to handle them? Short answer, i think screensavers for old hardware were not exactly those in xcreensaver since it demands a good video card to work smoothly. xlock resulted to me much more attractive than xtrlock, but the problem remains the same: it can't be launched alone when the machine's been idle for a determined amount of time, so the idea that it depends on the power-manager to start sounds like a solution to me (so there are no additional daemons or apps running). Also xlock options could be handled in a new tab in the UI of gnome-power-manager, since they would be bundled (just ideas...) I would suggest putting it on launchpad as a feature request. Yes, but i don't know exactly how to say it in short words. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin Suggestion
Team: Since Lubuntu uses libnotify for NM, transmission, power-management Gnome-Mplayer I would like to make a very humble suggestion package to be included on lubuntu: pidgin-libnotify. It would be nice to have an unified looking desktop. I'm testing it since a few days and it works great so far. If you agree, i hope's not too late for it to be included in 11.04 -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] a suggestion
I defectively agree, chrome is a good choice, in condition that it's operational by the time of 10.4 for the case it's not - I'd like to have your opinion regarding arora, I really find it mean and lean. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:33 AM, Sylkis syl...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/11/15 mehageg meha...@nana.co.il as lubuntu is a fast-lightweight version of ubuntu, maybe it's time to consider using arora http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/arora instead of firefox as the main web-browser. from my personal experience, arora fits very well as my main browser, it supports the main state-of-the art technologies (javascript+ajax, flash, java applets etc), has the main features you find in firefox (ad-block, live-http, privacy mode, tabbed surfing, smart bar). in the bottom line, it's just as great as firefox, just much faster and slimmer. matches perfectly the lubuntu/lxde way, as I see it. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Why not consider google-chrome? I know it's 'beta' status, but as I've been using it for a long time - since version in which plugins are defaultly on it's perfectly stable, and it's really lightweight and fast :) AND it's becoming quite popular, so I think it'd be better for lubuntu to have a popular browser that many people are familiar with, rather than having some exotic one that very little number of people use ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] a suggestion
You'll find most users simply will not use anything else other than firefox (sad but true) So will more than likely install it anyway due to ignorance or some form of loyalty, despite its massive shortcomings (like ridiculous ram usage) I personally use Chromium and believe there is a time when we look back at firefox and say what were we thinking!!? -ActionParsnip (aka andy) On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 11:20 AM, mehageg meha...@nana.co.il wrote: I defectively agree, chrome is a good choice, in condition that it's operational by the time of 10.4 for the case it's not - I'd like to have your opinion regarding arora, I really find it mean and lean. On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:33 AM, Sylkis syl...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/11/15 mehageg meha...@nana.co.il as lubuntu is a fast-lightweight version of ubuntu, maybe it's time to consider using arora http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/arora instead of firefox as the main web-browser. from my personal experience, arora fits very well as my main browser, it supports the main state-of-the art technologies (javascript+ajax, flash, java applets etc), has the main features you find in firefox (ad-block, live-http, privacy mode, tabbed surfing, smart bar). in the bottom line, it's just as great as firefox, just much faster and slimmer. matches perfectly the lubuntu/lxde way, as I see it. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Why not consider google-chrome? I know it's 'beta' status, but as I've been using it for a long time - since version in which plugins are defaultly on it's perfectly stable, and it's really lightweight and fast :) AND it's becoming quite popular, so I think it'd be better for lubuntu to have a popular browser that many people are familiar with, rather than having some exotic one that very little number of people use ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] a suggestion
On 16/11/2009, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: You'll find most users simply will not use anything else other than firefox (sad but true) So will more than likely install it anyway due to ignorance or some form of loyalty, despite its massive shortcomings (like ridiculous ram usage) I'm also desperate to escape the Firefox bloat, but I find that on my netbook with small screen dimensions, I like to configure Firefox and use an add-on to reduce the toolbar, search bar and menu bar down to just one row, and turn off the status bar: http://www.aoakley.com/misc/firefox-lxde-compact.png In this example I've removed the status bar, placed the menu, toolbar icons, address bar and search box onto one row, and used the Tiny Menu add-on to move all menu items except Bookmarks so that they cascade under one menu item Menu. Tiny Menu: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1455 Note how this is not Firefox's full screen option, nor is it kiosk mode; the LDXE task bar remains visible below the browser window. Window decoration has been removed for this window using the OpenBox option. Given that Lubuntu will be ideal for netbooks, are there any other browsers which support the majority of web browsing (Flash video, Ajax) but can keep their toolbars etc. down to just one row whilst retaining a menu, bookmarks, address bar, back/forward/reload/stop/home buttons and search box? -- Andrew Oakley and...@aoakley.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] a suggestion
sory I send the message to wrong adress earlier 2009/11/16 Sylkis syl...@gmail.com 2009/11/16 Zsolt Peter Basak shiki.biomer...@gmail.com Hello! Chrome is fast, but its not that lightweight. Check its memory usage. The Chrome/Chromium without Google features is called SRware Iron and anyone can download the binary of that app or the source code. Here you can find more information about SRWare Iron. (A german person makes it, as far as I know. I'm using it since the first version and I'm really satisfied with it). Even the beta... no crash at all. And there is an AdBlock for the beta, and the beta also handles flash better than the 'stable' version does. Homepage: http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php Download: http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_download.php Linux version: http://www.srware.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18t=835 That SWare Iron thingie looks great, but too bad there's no .deb nor repos for easy install and the windows version crashes under wine. maybe someone could create an easy package installer? I mean it looks like some great candidate for lubuntu, but as it would become part of ubuntu it needs some kind of repo or sth, as ubuntu is meant 'for humans' (that mostly do not fancy compiling :) )... personally I find arora and midori a bit uncomfortable, but maybe it's just me being used to big things like netscape, then firefox, and then google-chrome. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] a suggestion
Hi, yes, I am also having the discussion about browsers. I agree, we need a more lightweight browser. At the moment I have not seen a browser that is convincing. We have talked about this in Taiwan as well, but no solution yet. We need to test suggestions like your one. In Taiwan some said, the best choice might be to take Chrome, maybe the version without the Google data collection functions. Cheers, Mario On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, The choice of the browser is not final for Lubuntu 10.04. It will be discuss during the cycle, and also during Ubuntu Developpers summit. You can see details on this 2 specifications : - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/LubuntuLucidApplications - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/ArmLightweightBrowser Regards, Julien Lavergne On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:58:00 +0200 mehageg meha...@nana.co.il wrote: as lubuntu is a fast-lightweight version of ubuntu, maybe it's time to consider using arora http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/arora instead of firefox as the main web-browser. from my personal experience, arora fits very well as my main browser, it supports the main state-of-the art technologies (javascript+ajax, flash, java applets etc), has the main features you find in firefox (ad-block, live-http, privacy mode, tabbed surfing, smart bar). in the bottom line, it's just as great as firefox, just much faster and slimmer. matches perfectly the lubuntu/lxde way, as I see it. -- Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] a suggestion
2009/11/15 mehageg meha...@nana.co.il as lubuntu is a fast-lightweight version of ubuntu, maybe it's time to consider using arora http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/arora instead of firefox as the main web-browser. from my personal experience, arora fits very well as my main browser, it supports the main state-of-the art technologies (javascript+ajax, flash, java applets etc), has the main features you find in firefox (ad-block, live-http, privacy mode, tabbed surfing, smart bar). in the bottom line, it's just as great as firefox, just much faster and slimmer. matches perfectly the lubuntu/lxde way, as I see it. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Why not consider google-chrome? I know it's 'beta' status, but as I've been using it for a long time - since version in which plugins are defaultly on it's perfectly stable, and it's really lightweight and fast :) AND it's becoming quite popular, so I think it'd be better for lubuntu to have a popular browser that many people are familiar with, rather than having some exotic one that very little number of people use ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
