Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] samba support missing from command line?

2011-10-22 Thread Julien Lavergne

Le 21 oct. 2011 à 23:15, maps.backw...@gmail.com a écrit :

> phillw asked me to send this along. 
> 
> anywho, i tried to connect to a Samba share and couldn't browse to it via Go 
> > Network Drives > Windows Network (errors "Failed to retrieve share list 
> from server" and then "The specified location is not mounted") but could get 
> to it via smb:// URI. 
> 
> however, i really wanted to browse in lxterminal, so i proceeded to:
> sudo mount -t cifs //server/share /mnt
> and it failed. upon installing smbfs, no problems.
> 
> i guess the real question is whether or not this is a bug. if we intend CLI 
> to support Samba natively, then this should be a part of lubuntu-core, else 
> we should at least add it to the wiki and/or FAQ.
> 
> wxl

See previous email of PCMan about it :

"No, it's not a bug and smbfs is not needed, either.
GVFS, if properly installed with proper backends, should support smb.
If you can use gvfs-ls or gvfs-* commands to handle smb:// paths, then it's a 
bug of pcmanfm.
Otherwise, gvfs or other stuff is not correctly configured under lubuntu."

Could you please do the tests with gvfs and report back ?

Regards,
Julien Lavergne
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] samba support

2011-10-19 Thread PCMan
No, it's not a bug and smbfs is not needed, either.
GVFS, if properly installed with proper backends, should support smb.
If you can use gvfs-ls or gvfs-* commands to handle smb:// paths, then it's
a bug of pcmanfm.
Otherwise, gvfs or other stuff is not correctly configured under lubuntu.

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:

> Hi Julien,
>
> it seems that there is a missing library for samba support, namely smbfs.
> As I'm not sure where you want it reporting, I include the chat.
>
> (00:47:48) wxl: does lubuntu inheriently lack smb support?
> (00:48:11) wxl: oh nevermind figured it out
> (00:48:11) *illusions left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving).*
> (00:48:25) wxl: weird i can't use go > network shares but smb://server
> works
> (00:52:26) phillw: samba should be automatic with pcmanfm
> (00:54:02) phillw: network shares is a diffirent app. Please raise a bug
> against it if it is not working. bugs not reported only ever get fixed by
> chance :)
> (00:54:19) wxl: :D
> (00:55:31) phillw: in the past we had pyneighbourhood, but that wouldn't
> "play' either, so pcman added it to pcmanfm to save grief :) (He's a darn
> good guy).
> (00:59:46) wxl: grrr
> (01:00:00) wxl: pcmanfm can find the share but i'm having a hell of a time
> mounting it
> (01:00:42) phillw: wxl: is it password protected?
> (01:00:48) wxl: nope
> (01:01:10) wxl: ntfs share i should say
> (01:01:42) phillw: wxl: I've got to be honest, I'm not familiar. The only
> samba stuff I know of is for windoze.
> (01:02:06) phillw: ntfs = windoze :)
> (01:02:10) wxl: riiight
> (01:02:45) phillw: wxl: been too long since I use windows :) Is it an
> area you would like automounting?
> (01:03:00) wxl: naw
> (01:04:36) KM0201: wxl: should work fine.. i use samba quite a bit (even
> w/o windows machines) cuz its just so easy just open pcman
> smb://192.168.1.xx
> (01:04:46) wxl: KM0201: what about in cli?
> (01:04:51) phillw: pcmanfm 'should' be able to see it. As not too many of
> us have drives that need samba, I'm at a loss as to who to suggest can help.
> I know how to alter the fstab to automount.
> (01:05:01) phillw: thanks KM0201 :)
> (01:05:05) KM0201: um, i've never tried to mount one from cli, but it
> shouldn't be to difficult i dont think
> (01:05:34) phillw: use the same ops as for fstab table?
> (01:05:51) KM0201: so he's trying to automount a samba share?
> (01:06:11) wxl: no automount
> (01:06:13) KM0201: i thought he was just trying to mount it it.
> (01:06:31) wxl: weird
> (01:06:35) wxl: i don't have smbfs
> (01:06:47) KM0201: sudo apt-get install samba
> (01:07:06) KM0201: i dont think samba installs automatically
> (01:07:17) KM0201: did you have an smb.conf?
> (01:07:25) wxl: well i have no problem accessing in pcmanfm
> (01:07:28) phillw: if it is ntfs, you may want the easy version of
> ntfs-config?
> (01:07:32) phillw: http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=96
> (01:08:10) KM0201: ok.. so you have no problem accessing i pcmanfm.. so..
> you want to automount a samba share? (thought you said earlier you didn't
> wanted "no automount".. or am i confused)
> (01:08:58) KM0201: wxl: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO-8.html
> (01:08:59) wxl: nope you're on it KM0201
> (01:09:05) wxl: problem was smbfs was missing
> (01:09:09) KM0201: ok.
> (01:09:12) wxl: now mount -t cifs blah blah all good
> (01:11:38) phillw: wxl: I'm guessing the library eats up RAM... therefore
> not a default. I'll check with the boss.
> (01:12:59) wxl: phillw: i'd be interested to know
> (01:13:09) wxl: i could see the argument made that few use cli and it's
> not necessary
> (01:13:17) wxl: and that the hardcore user will figure it out and install
> what they want
> (01:22:44) phillw: wxl: does network share now work?
> (01:22:56) wxl: no problem phillw
> (01:22:56) *philipballew [~philipbal@ubuntu/member/philipballew] entered
> the room.*
> (01:23:35) phillw: then, for network share to function, it needs smbfs -
> that is a bug :)
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
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[Lubuntu-desktop] samba support

2011-10-19 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Julien,

it seems that there is a missing library for samba support, namely smbfs. As
I'm not sure where you want it reporting, I include the chat.

(00:47:48) wxl: does lubuntu inheriently lack smb support?
(00:48:11) wxl: oh nevermind figured it out
(00:48:11) *illusions left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving).*
(00:48:25) wxl: weird i can't use go > network shares but smb://server works
(00:52:26) phillw: samba should be automatic with pcmanfm
(00:54:02) phillw: network shares is a diffirent app. Please raise a bug
against it if it is not working. bugs not reported only ever get fixed by
chance :)
(00:54:19) wxl: :D
(00:55:31) phillw: in the past we had pyneighbourhood, but that wouldn't
"play' either, so pcman added it to pcmanfm to save grief :) (He's a darn
good guy).
(00:59:46) wxl: grrr
(01:00:00) wxl: pcmanfm can find the share but i'm having a hell of a time
mounting it
(01:00:42) phillw: wxl: is it password protected?
(01:00:48) wxl: nope
(01:01:10) wxl: ntfs share i should say
(01:01:42) phillw: wxl: I've got to be honest, I'm not familiar. The only
samba stuff I know of is for windoze.
(01:02:06) phillw: ntfs = windoze :)
(01:02:10) wxl: riiight
(01:02:45) phillw: wxl: been too long since I use windows :) Is it an
area you would like automounting?
(01:03:00) wxl: naw
(01:04:36) KM0201: wxl: should work fine.. i use samba quite a bit (even w/o
windows machines) cuz its just so easy just open pcman
smb://192.168.1.xx
(01:04:46) wxl: KM0201: what about in cli?
(01:04:51) phillw: pcmanfm 'should' be able to see it. As not too many of us
have drives that need samba, I'm at a loss as to who to suggest can help. I
know how to alter the fstab to automount.
(01:05:01) phillw: thanks KM0201 :)
(01:05:05) KM0201: um, i've never tried to mount one from cli, but it
shouldn't be to difficult i dont think
(01:05:34) phillw: use the same ops as for fstab table?
(01:05:51) KM0201: so he's trying to automount a samba share?
(01:06:11) wxl: no automount
(01:06:13) KM0201: i thought he was just trying to mount it it.
(01:06:31) wxl: weird
(01:06:35) wxl: i don't have smbfs
(01:06:47) KM0201: sudo apt-get install samba
(01:07:06) KM0201: i dont think samba installs automatically
(01:07:17) KM0201: did you have an smb.conf?
(01:07:25) wxl: well i have no problem accessing in pcmanfm
(01:07:28) phillw: if it is ntfs, you may want the easy version of
ntfs-config?
(01:07:32) phillw: http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=96
(01:08:10) KM0201: ok.. so you have no problem accessing i pcmanfm.. so..
you want to automount a samba share? (thought you said earlier you didn't
wanted "no automount".. or am i confused)
(01:08:58) KM0201: wxl: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO-8.html
(01:08:59) wxl: nope you're on it KM0201
(01:09:05) wxl: problem was smbfs was missing
(01:09:09) KM0201: ok.
(01:09:12) wxl: now mount -t cifs blah blah all good
(01:11:38) phillw: wxl: I'm guessing the library eats up RAM... therefore
not a default. I'll check with the boss.
(01:12:59) wxl: phillw: i'd be interested to know
(01:13:09) wxl: i could see the argument made that few use cli and it's not
necessary
(01:13:17) wxl: and that the hardcore user will figure it out and install
what they want
(01:22:44) phillw: wxl: does network share now work?
(01:22:56) wxl: no problem phillw
(01:22:56) *philipballew [~philipbal@ubuntu/member/philipballew] entered the
room.*
(01:23:35) phillw: then, for network share to function, it needs smbfs -
that is a bug :)

Regards,

Phill.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] samba and windows

2010-05-19 Thread Andrew Woodhead
You can also create a credentials file in this format:

username=yourusername
password=youpass

Then use this in samba:

//server/share /media/samba cifs
credentials=/path/to/file,uid=1000,gid=100,noperm 0 0

Having a username/password setup on samba is a very good idea as it keeps
users out but also authenticates you as a user on the remote system, you can
use samba to only give access to certain resources to certain usernames thus
making it more secure.


On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Phillip Whiteside wrote:

> hi,
>
> I was just chatting to a couple of those 'nice people' about pysdm, it's
> limitations and if a user of it could get support on the main forum area
> (which is yes) and I mentioned about the on going saga with samba. Here's
> one to try in fstab
>
> # Samba
> //server/share /media/samba cifs user=user,uid=1000,gid=100,noperm 0 0
>
> # "Server" = Samba server (by IP or name if you have an entry for the
> server in your hosts file
> # "share" = name of the shared directory
> # "user" = your samba user
> # This set up will ask for a password when mounting the samba share. If you
> do not want to enter a password, use a credentials file.
> # replace "user=user" with "credentials=/etc/samba/credentials" In the
> credentials file put two lines
>
> # user=user
>
> # password=password
>
> # make the file owned by root and ro by root (sudo chown root.root
> /etc/samba/credentials && sudo chmod 400 /etc/samba/credentials)
>
> If you get chance, give it a try :-)
>
>
> For ntfs stuff, I've been reminded of ntfs-config for those with windows on
> their systems who want to share a hard drive easily (which some one pointed
> out earlier on the mailing list).
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
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[Lubuntu-desktop] samba and windows

2010-05-18 Thread Phillip Whiteside
hi,

I was just chatting to a couple of those 'nice people' about pysdm, it's
limitations and if a user of it could get support on the main forum area
(which is yes) and I mentioned about the on going saga with samba. Here's
one to try in fstab

# Samba
//server/share /media/samba cifs user=user,uid=1000,gid=100,noperm 0 0

# "Server" = Samba server (by IP or name if you have an entry for the server
in your hosts file
# "share" = name of the shared directory
# "user" = your samba user
# This set up will ask for a password when mounting the samba share. If you
do not want to enter a password, use a credentials file.
# replace "user=user" with "credentials=/etc/samba/credentials" In the
credentials file put two lines

# user=user

# password=password

# make the file owned by root and ro by root (sudo chown root.root
/etc/samba/credentials && sudo chmod 400 /etc/samba/credentials)

If you get chance, give it a try :-)


For ntfs stuff, I've been reminded of ntfs-config for those with windows on
their systems who want to share a hard drive easily (which some one pointed
out earlier on the mailing list).

Regards,

Phill.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] samba-common-bin & samba GUI

2010-04-23 Thread Julien Lavergne
Hi,

Le vendredi 23 avril 2010 à 19:30 +0400, Yaroslav a écrit :
> 
> I ask you to include package samba-common-bin to default lubuntu
> distibution. 

Feel free to report a bug for this : type "ubuntu-bug lubuntu-desktop"
in a terminal to report directly, so we can track the issue on the bug
tracker, and there no risk to lost it on the mailing list :)

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


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[Lubuntu-desktop] samba-common-bin & samba GUI

2010-04-23 Thread Yaroslav
Hello All.

I ask you to include package samba-common-bin to default lubuntu distibution. 

I found, that samba GUI tool "system-config-samba" need this package for 
correct work. Otherwise you shall 
see error message "Some lines couldn't be understood while reading the 
configuration file 
/etc/samba/smb.conf..." and list of all lines in smb.conf. 

Also, I think that such simple and useful samba GUI tool can be a part of 
lubuntu distribution.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] samba

2010-03-17 Thread Phill Whiteside
Andy,

I am quite happy at CLI, in fact, when i get racked off with a GUI app, I go
to CLI - However, not all people are. And we've been asked to test the GUI
apps. If a GUI app fails, then we can check the CLI equivalent to see if it
is the fault of the GUI app, or a bug.

An easy example, Xarchiver couldn't open a zipped file, because unzip was
not installed. Things like that are 'major' problems to new users. Easy for
me to find, I went to CLI and issued 'unzip ~/Desktop/filename.zip' and was
told unzip had not been installed. :-)

Regards,

Phill.

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Andrew Woodhead <
andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Why not just use /etc/samba/smb.conf ?
>
> simply add this sort of thing to share a folder:
>
> [DOWNLOADS]
> path = /home/andy
> comment = Some stuff
> browsable = yes
> read only = no
> writable = yes
> hide dot files = yes
> guest ok = no
> invalid users = root bin daemon nobody named sys tty disk mem
> valid users = andy
>
> as an example from my file server sharing my universal home folder, people
> get so tied up on gui tools when the conf file can be easily learned,
> especially as the file is so humanly readable.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> I've only ever had MacOSX and Win connected via Samba, and I'm using a set
>> of instructions for pyneighborhood that are for a an earlier release.
>>
>> As pcmanfm uses gvfs for the smb part, and there appears to be an elephant
>> in the room re: the core 10.04 and samba I'd hate to start pointing fingers.
>> I don't have enough knowledge of samba to state yes / no as to if the bug
>> others are seeing on 'main' 10.04 carries over to lubuntu, but I figure it
>> would.
>>
>> I also cannot state if pyneighborhood uses the gvfs interface, but it
>> would make sense if it did.
>>
>> Hopefully one of the lubuntu devs could tell us if the reported gremlin in
>> the 10.04 area would affect lubuntu.
>>
>> My own thought is to hold back until they have it fixed in 10.04 main, but
>> I am completely open to being corrected and being informed that the samba
>> issue with gvfsd-smb-browse does NOT have any effect on lubuntu.
>>
>> Assuming we wait until it is fixed for ubuntu 10.04, I'll then set up a
>> share with that, so I know it all works - Then I'll try with Lubuntu.
>>
>> I'm open to any comments / suggestions, though :-)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Phill.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Phix  wrote:
>>
>>> I can help with testing if you'd like. Pyneighborhood was something I
>>> tried in karmic lubuntu before installing alpha 3, and it didn't work very
>>> well there either, but that might have been from the bug in samba main.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:05 AM, Phill Whiteside 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 I don't know how others are getting on with pyneighborhood, I've been
 struggling, it seems that I am not alone with samba.

 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1426517

 There appears to be gremlin in the works :-(

 Regards,

 Phill.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] samba

2010-03-17 Thread Steve
On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 20:08 +, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> I've only ever had MacOSX and Win connected via Samba, and I'm using a
> set of instructions for pyneighborhood that are for a an earlier
> release.
> 
> 
> As pcmanfm uses gvfs for the smb part, and there appears to be an
> elephant in the room re: the core 10.04 and samba I'd hate to start
> pointing fingers. I don't have enough knowledge of samba to state
> yes / no as to if the bug others are seeing on 'main' 10.04 carries
> over to lubuntu, but I figure it would.
> 
> 
> I also cannot state if pyneighborhood uses the gvfs interface, but it
> would make sense if it did.
> 
> 
> Hopefully one of the lubuntu devs could tell us if the reported
> gremlin in the 10.04 area would affect lubuntu.
> 
> 
> My own thought is to hold back until they have it fixed in 10.04 main,
> but I am completely open to being corrected and being informed that
> the samba issue with gvfsd-smb-browse does NOT have any effect on
> lubuntu.
> 
> 
> Assuming we wait until it is fixed for ubuntu 10.04, I'll then set up
> a share with that, so I know it all works - Then I'll try with
> Lubuntu. 
> 
> 
> I'm open to any comments / suggestions, though :-)
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Phill.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Phix  wrote:
> I can help with testing if you'd like. Pyneighborhood was
> something I tried in karmic lubuntu before installing alpha 3,
> and it didn't work very well there either, but that might have
> been from the bug in samba main. 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:05 AM, Phill Whiteside
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> 
> I don't know how others are getting on with
> pyneighborhood, I've been struggling, it seems that I
> am not alone with samba. 
> 
> 
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1426517 
> 
> 
> There appears to be gremlin in the works :-( 
> 
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> 
> Phill. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
Can’t get it to behave properly here, although it is getting better.
There a several bugs against samba and gvfs in launchpad at the
moment,that I’ve subscribed to, so I’m just waiting to see if there is a
fix. 
> 



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] samba

2010-03-17 Thread Andrew Woodhead
Why not just use /etc/samba/smb.conf ?

simply add this sort of thing to share a folder:

[DOWNLOADS]
path = /home/andy
comment = Some stuff
browsable = yes
read only = no
writable = yes
hide dot files = yes
guest ok = no
invalid users = root bin daemon nobody named sys tty disk mem
valid users = andy

as an example from my file server sharing my universal home folder, people
get so tied up on gui tools when the conf file can be easily learned,
especially as the file is so humanly readable.



On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:

> Thanks,
>
> I've only ever had MacOSX and Win connected via Samba, and I'm using a set
> of instructions for pyneighborhood that are for a an earlier release.
>
> As pcmanfm uses gvfs for the smb part, and there appears to be an elephant
> in the room re: the core 10.04 and samba I'd hate to start pointing fingers.
> I don't have enough knowledge of samba to state yes / no as to if the bug
> others are seeing on 'main' 10.04 carries over to lubuntu, but I figure it
> would.
>
> I also cannot state if pyneighborhood uses the gvfs interface, but it would
> make sense if it did.
>
> Hopefully one of the lubuntu devs could tell us if the reported gremlin in
> the 10.04 area would affect lubuntu.
>
> My own thought is to hold back until they have it fixed in 10.04 main, but
> I am completely open to being corrected and being informed that the samba
> issue with gvfsd-smb-browse does NOT have any effect on lubuntu.
>
> Assuming we wait until it is fixed for ubuntu 10.04, I'll then set up a
> share with that, so I know it all works - Then I'll try with Lubuntu.
>
> I'm open to any comments / suggestions, though :-)
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Phix  wrote:
>
>> I can help with testing if you'd like. Pyneighborhood was something I
>> tried in karmic lubuntu before installing alpha 3, and it didn't work very
>> well there either, but that might have been from the bug in samba main.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:05 AM, Phill Whiteside 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I don't know how others are getting on with pyneighborhood, I've been
>>> struggling, it seems that I am not alone with samba.
>>>
>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1426517
>>>
>>> There appears to be gremlin in the works :-(
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Phill.
>>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] samba

2010-03-17 Thread Phill Whiteside
Thanks,

I've only ever had MacOSX and Win connected via Samba, and I'm using a set
of instructions for pyneighborhood that are for a an earlier release.

As pcmanfm uses gvfs for the smb part, and there appears to be an elephant
in the room re: the core 10.04 and samba I'd hate to start pointing fingers.
I don't have enough knowledge of samba to state yes / no as to if the bug
others are seeing on 'main' 10.04 carries over to lubuntu, but I figure it
would.

I also cannot state if pyneighborhood uses the gvfs interface, but it would
make sense if it did.

Hopefully one of the lubuntu devs could tell us if the reported gremlin in
the 10.04 area would affect lubuntu.

My own thought is to hold back until they have it fixed in 10.04 main, but I
am completely open to being corrected and being informed that the samba
issue with gvfsd-smb-browse does NOT have any effect on lubuntu.

Assuming we wait until it is fixed for ubuntu 10.04, I'll then set up a
share with that, so I know it all works - Then I'll try with Lubuntu.

I'm open to any comments / suggestions, though :-)

Regards,

Phill.


On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Phix  wrote:

> I can help with testing if you'd like. Pyneighborhood was something I tried
> in karmic lubuntu before installing alpha 3, and it didn't work very well
> there either, but that might have been from the bug in samba main.
>
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 7:05 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I don't know how others are getting on with pyneighborhood, I've been
>> struggling, it seems that I am not alone with samba.
>>
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1426517
>>
>> There appears to be gremlin in the works :-(
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Phill.
>>
>>
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[Lubuntu-desktop] samba

2010-03-17 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi,

I don't know how others are getting on with pyneighborhood, I've been
struggling, it seems that I am not alone with samba.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1426517

There appears to be gremlin in the works :-(

Regards,

Phill.
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