Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Alpha 1 upgrade tests
On 2013-06-29 02:48, Jonathan Marsden wrote: On 06/28/2013 05:44 PM, Erick Brunzell wrote: I think it's very possible but much testing is required :^) Is the upgrade testing a suitable candidate for automation, so the much testing doesn't need much human tester time to accomplish? Jonathan I guess the problem is not upgrading a completely standard version, but a version, that has been used by a real person, and there are some extra packages added, maybe also some PPAs. Or a version that was upgraded before. (My present production environment, now 12.04.2, started as 8.04.) If testing in such situations can be done in some [more] automatic way than now, that's good, but it will probably be hard to make it work. Best regards Nio -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Alpha 1 upgrade tests
On 2013-06-29 03:56, Erick Brunzell wrote: On 06/28/2013 07:48 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: On 06/28/2013 05:44 PM, Erick Brunzell wrote: I think it's very possible but much testing is required :^) Is the upgrade testing a suitable candidate for automation, so the much testing doesn't need much human tester time to accomplish? Jonathan I'm not sure. Off-the-cuff I think some additional documentation will be needed. I should say also that I believe upgrading using the live image is preferable but I need to prove that :^) I was only able to get the Upgrade (image) test added during the Raring cycle and I think a lot of people don't even know it exists ... or how it works :^( The whole story is long and I had to butt heads with a member of the installer-team, and I lost! I think if I'd not lost the live image could have worked quite well to recover from an interrupted upgrade via 'release-upgrader'. Give me a couple of weeks to post a proper response. Lance Interesting! I'm looking forward to it :-) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-qa] Alpha 1 upgrade tests
I wondered why the upgrade test results were deleted from the QA Tracker: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/297/builds It's sort of a bummer to spend hours performing tests and then see the results not published :^( Lance -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Alpha 1 upgrade tests
On 06/28/2013 02:19 AM, Erick Brunzell wrote: I wondered why the upgrade test results were deleted from the QA Tracker: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/297/builds It's sort of a bummer to spend hours performing tests and then see the results not published :^( Lance I was also just reading the release notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/Alpha1/Lubuntu And I wonder if we shouldn't mention that the proper upgrade method is to open the terminal and run update-manager -d? I'm personally finding the upgrade path via the live iso to be somewhat preferable but I'll get into those details later ;^) Lance -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Alpha 1 upgrade tests
Hi, sorry for the delay in responding to this, it's been a bit hectic with classroom sessions and editing wiki stuff! I did mention to the release-team about lubuntu not having control over the lubuntu-upgrade links. They are generated periodically and teams are asked to periodically test them out just in case one has a major bug arrive. They really come into play during the beta season, but keeping an eye on them during the alpha's is not a bad thing. Your results as posted up (bug reports) do get looked into, this work is never a waste of time. However, if you do find a bug on them, please also copy the bug number to this list. Thanks for you continued testing, Phill. On 28 June 2013 08:55, Erick Brunzell lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote: On 06/28/2013 02:19 AM, Erick Brunzell wrote: I wondered why the upgrade test results were deleted from the QA Tracker: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/297/builds It's sort of a bummer to spend hours performing tests and then see the results not published :^( Lance I was also just reading the release notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/Alpha1/Lubuntu And I wonder if we shouldn't mention that the proper upgrade method is to open the terminal and run update-manager -d? I'm personally finding the upgrade path via the live iso to be somewhat preferable but I'll get into those details later ;^) Lance -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Alpha 1 upgrade tests
On 06/28/2013 04:41 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: Hi, sorry for the delay in responding to this, it's been a bit hectic with classroom sessions and editing wiki stuff! I did mention to the release-team about lubuntu not having control over the lubuntu-upgrade links. They are generated periodically and teams are asked to periodically test them out just in case one has a major bug arrive. They really come into play during the beta season, but keeping an eye on them during the alpha's is not a bad thing. Your results as posted up (bug reports) do get looked into, this work is never a waste of time. However, if you do find a bug on them, please also copy the bug number to this list. Thanks for you continued testing, Phill. On 28 June 2013 08:55, Erick Brunzell lbsol...@yahoo.com mailto:lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote: On 06/28/2013 02:19 AM, Erick Brunzell wrote: I wondered why the upgrade test results were deleted from the QA Tracker: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/297/builds It's sort of a bummer to spend hours performing tests and then see the results not published :^( Lance I was also just reading the release notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/Alpha1/Lubuntu And I wonder if we shouldn't mention that the proper upgrade method is to open the terminal and run update-manager -d? I'm personally finding the upgrade path via the live iso to be somewhat preferable but I'll get into those details later ;^) Lance -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-qa Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net mailto:lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw No sweat. IMHO you need never apologize for anything, you're one of the best team leaders I've ever worked with :^) I was however put-off because Kubuntu's upgrade testing went to Ready status while ours was deleted altogether: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/297/builds Also ours was more complete ;^) I do intend to focus a lot on upgrades going forward. Wouldn't it be nice to tell Munich that they can install any supported version of Lubuntu and upgrade to the latest version w/o problems? I think it's very possible but much testing is required :^) Lance -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Alpha 1 upgrade tests
On 06/28/2013 05:44 PM, Erick Brunzell wrote: I think it's very possible but much testing is required :^) Is the upgrade testing a suitable candidate for automation, so the much testing doesn't need much human tester time to accomplish? Jonathan -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Alpha 1 upgrade tests
Good Idea, well presented. @ Nicholas - as the upgrade ones only get spun up periodically, Jonathan does have a good point for them being automated... (Do please read the rest of this thread). Regards, Phill. On 29 June 2013 01:48, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 06/28/2013 05:44 PM, Erick Brunzell wrote: I think it's very possible but much testing is required :^) Is the upgrade testing a suitable candidate for automation, so the much testing doesn't need much human tester time to accomplish? Jonathan -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Alpha 1 upgrade tests
On 06/28/2013 07:48 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: On 06/28/2013 05:44 PM, Erick Brunzell wrote: I think it's very possible but much testing is required :^) Is the upgrade testing a suitable candidate for automation, so the much testing doesn't need much human tester time to accomplish? Jonathan I'm not sure. Off-the-cuff I think some additional documentation will be needed. I should say also that I believe upgrading using the live image is preferable but I need to prove that :^) I was only able to get the Upgrade (image) test added during the Raring cycle and I think a lot of people don't even know it exists ... or how it works :^( The whole story is long and I had to butt heads with a member of the installer-team, and I lost! I think if I'd not lost the live image could have worked quite well to recover from an interrupted upgrade via 'release-upgrader'. Give me a couple of weeks to post a proper response. Lance -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
