Re: [lubuntu-users] What happened?? apt freezes during dist-upgrade in kinetic??

[Israel Dahl]

On 9/5/22 10:32, Fritz Hudnut wrote:


(snip)


Ralf:

Alrighty, thanks for the reply . . . the "disappearing Firefox" thing 
only was a problem as far as wanting a browser to search for answers 
to the problem of apt "hanging" in the process of updating the system 
. . . .  On cold boot FF came back.


But, the question of what happened with apt was the more important 
question . . . was it trying to install a too new kernel and then 
tried to back out of it?  It was an odd episode . . . .


F


Hey Fritz,

You could search for the available kernels to see which ones are 
available, and which ones are installed.


You can also look in the /var/log/dpkg.log something like:

grep "upgrade " /var/log/dpkg.log

That might give you a starting point.

As for the disappearance of firefox, I think snap/flatpak packages don't 
always show up after install, there may be a way to force it to update 
the menus but I don't really like to use either of those unless I 
*really* have to, so I don't know off the top of my head/


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[lubuntu-users] What happened?? apt freezes during dist-upgrade in kinetic??

[Fritz Hudnut]

On Sun, 2022-09-04 at 10:38 -0700, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
> > [snip] running kinetic this morning and executed "apt update && apt
> > dist-upgrade" [snip]
> > FireFox disappeared from the internet menu [snip]
>
> Hi,
>
> Firefox is not provided by the apt repositories.
>
> It's a "Transitional package - firefox -> firefox snap", see
> https://packages.ubuntu.com/kinetic/firefox , IOW the snap related
> upgrade process is providing Firefox.
>
> The "bin" provided by this package actually is a script, at least the
> jammy package's Firefox script starts with:
>
> "#!/bin/sh
> if ! [ -x /snap/bin/firefox ]; then
> echo "" >&2
> echo "Command '$0' requires the firefox snap to be installed." >&2
> echo "Please install it with:" >&2
> echo "" >&2
> echo "snap install firefox" >&2
> echo "" >&2
> exit 1
> fi"
>
> IMO the snap enforcement is the beginning of the end of Ubuntu flavours.
> Fortunately my everyday Linux is the rolling release Arch Linux. Ubuntu
> flavours were my long term support emergency Linux installs, but now I
> try to find a long term support replacement for Ubuntu flavours.
>
> Snaps are an Ubuntu only thingy. Other distros provide the snap
> infrastructure, but they are not supporting it. I also dislike
> alternatives, such as flatpak, but those at least enjoy a minimum of
> acceptance, while there's absolutely no acceptance for snaps outside of
> Ubuntu flavours.
>
> Regards,
> Ralf
>
>
>
Ralf:

Alrighty, thanks for the reply . . . the "disappearing Firefox" thing only
was a problem as far as wanting a browser to search for answers to the
problem of apt "hanging" in the process of updating the system . . . .  On
cold boot FF came back.

But, the question of what happened with apt was the more important question
. . . was it trying to install a too new kernel and then tried to back out
of it?  It was an odd episode . . . .

F
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