Re: [lubuntu-users] What happened?? kernel not upgrading during dist-upgrade in kinetic??

2022-09-21 Thread Fritz Hudnut
@Is:

Yes.  I did both, reinstalled grub and then "mkconfig'd" it and on cold
boot, selecting Lubuntu now brings verbose log in/dmesg, or it shows up . .
. in the fairly slow boot process . . . but got there!!  And uname -r shows
5.19xxx kernel . . . 

It takes a village . . . in my case.  I guess the thing was, after erasing
the 5.13 kernel I edited the individual grub item data, but didn't run
another "grub2-mkconfig" to solidify the edits??  Or, in this case, find
the newer kernel and register it, etc.

I started a new thread on Discourse, but since I'm now running Lubuntu I
can't post an update there . . . ?  : - 0

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 10:00 AM Fritz Hudnut  wrote:

> Is:
>
> Thanks for the reply . . . I do "know" which distro is handling grub . . .
> the TW install, but they don't do the same "update-grub" command in SUSE,
> as I recall from past exploits trying to get grub tidied up . . . .  They
> do a command like "grub2-mkconfig xxx" which I did run yesterday.  They
> do offer reinstall with "grub2-install" . . . .
>
> I guess it wouldn't hurt to run that to see if it picks up the newer
> kernel in Lu . . . now that 5.13 is gone there should be a more clear
> "choice" . . . .
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 9:33 AM Israel Dahl  wrote:
>
>> Hey Fritz,
>>
>> The best way to update grub is using the `update-grub` CLI utility.
>> But you have to do it from the distro you installed grub with.  If you
>> can remember which one you installed grub with, simply run that command
>> using `sudo` and it should automatically detect the most recent kernel and
>> do it for you.
>>
>> If you cannot figure out which one you installed it with, reinstall grub
>> from the distro you use the most.
>>
>> On 9/21/22 11:06, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
>>
>> et al:
>>
>> Spoke too soon . . . not out of the woods on this one yet.  Seems like
>> the edits made in the grub "EFI" menu are not maintained on reboot??
>> Doesn't seem to be any hints on how to "save" the edits . . . just make
>> them and then boot them???  But, then it appears that the edits are lost
>> and it's back to the previous version??
>>
>> After I got 5.19 to boot I used the GUI mainline kernel app to remove the
>> old 5.13 kernel, to try to get the system to default to 5.19, but on trying
>> today it said, "5.13 not found, hit any key to continue" and back into Grub
>> menu we went.
>>
>> Arrowed down to Lubuntu, pressed "e" and changed the kernel data to 5.19
>> and it booted up.
>>
>> Question is, why doesn't it hold the data??  I've changed both line
>> items, the "Lubuntu" and the "advanced options" data and I can boot it, one
>> time . . . .  I tried "ctrl o" but that didn't do anything . . . .  Do I
>> need to take it to "command line" and then try to "ctrl o" it to save it??
>>
>> F
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 9:53 AM Fritz Hudnut 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Top posting, with impunity!!
>>>
>>> So, I got a hint over on Discourse to "check the grub EFI menu" . . .
>>> and once I figured out how to do that, indeed, Lubuntu was listing itself
>>> as "19.10" and set to be booting 5.13 . . . took some more time to figure
>>> out how to edit that data, to the correct wording for the kernel . . . and
>>> that did seem to boot Lubuntu to 5.19!!!
>>>
>>> Only "problem" seems to be that when I'm booted in Lubuntu the Discourse
>>> site loads as a white page . . . of whiteness.  I'll have to reboot into a
>>> non-Lu system to get it to load . . . .
>>>
>>> So far now it seems like the solution has been invoked . . . .
>>>
>>> F
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 3:45 PM Nio Wiklund 
 wrote:

> Hi again Fritz,
>
> Is the problematic system your main system or 'only' a test system? If
> a
> test system you might just reinstall it to get rid of the problem.
>
> Best regards
> Nio
>
>
>
>
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Re: [lubuntu-users] What happened?? kernel not upgrading during dist-upgrade in kinetic??

2022-09-21 Thread Fritz Hudnut
Is:

Thanks for the reply . . . I do "know" which distro is handling grub . . .
the TW install, but they don't do the same "update-grub" command in SUSE,
as I recall from past exploits trying to get grub tidied up . . . .  They
do a command like "grub2-mkconfig xxx" which I did run yesterday.  They
do offer reinstall with "grub2-install" . . . .

I guess it wouldn't hurt to run that to see if it picks up the newer kernel
in Lu . . . now that 5.13 is gone there should be a more clear "choice" . .
. .



On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 9:33 AM Israel Dahl  wrote:

> Hey Fritz,
>
> The best way to update grub is using the `update-grub` CLI utility.
> But you have to do it from the distro you installed grub with.  If you can
> remember which one you installed grub with, simply run that command using
> `sudo` and it should automatically detect the most recent kernel and do it
> for you.
>
> If you cannot figure out which one you installed it with, reinstall grub
> from the distro you use the most.
>
> On 9/21/22 11:06, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
>
> et al:
>
> Spoke too soon . . . not out of the woods on this one yet.  Seems like the
> edits made in the grub "EFI" menu are not maintained on reboot??  Doesn't
> seem to be any hints on how to "save" the edits . . . just make them and
> then boot them???  But, then it appears that the edits are lost and it's
> back to the previous version??
>
> After I got 5.19 to boot I used the GUI mainline kernel app to remove the
> old 5.13 kernel, to try to get the system to default to 5.19, but on trying
> today it said, "5.13 not found, hit any key to continue" and back into Grub
> menu we went.
>
> Arrowed down to Lubuntu, pressed "e" and changed the kernel data to 5.19
> and it booted up.
>
> Question is, why doesn't it hold the data??  I've changed both line items,
> the "Lubuntu" and the "advanced options" data and I can boot it, one time .
> . . .  I tried "ctrl o" but that didn't do anything . . . .  Do I need to
> take it to "command line" and then try to "ctrl o" it to save it??
>
> F
>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 9:53 AM Fritz Hudnut 
> wrote:
>
>> Top posting, with impunity!!
>>
>> So, I got a hint over on Discourse to "check the grub EFI menu" . . . and
>> once I figured out how to do that, indeed, Lubuntu was listing itself as
>> "19.10" and set to be booting 5.13 . . . took some more time to figure out
>> how to edit that data, to the correct wording for the kernel . . . and that
>> did seem to boot Lubuntu to 5.19!!!
>>
>> Only "problem" seems to be that when I'm booted in Lubuntu the Discourse
>> site loads as a white page . . . of whiteness.  I'll have to reboot into a
>> non-Lu system to get it to load . . . .
>>
>> So far now it seems like the solution has been invoked . . . .
>>
>> F
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 3:45 PM Nio Wiklund 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi again Fritz,

 Is the problematic system your main system or 'only' a test system? If
 a
 test system you might just reinstall it to get rid of the problem.

 Best regards
 Nio




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Re: [lubuntu-users] What happened?? kernel not upgrading during dist-upgrade in kinetic??

2022-09-21 Thread Israel Dahl

Hey Fritz,

The best way to update grub is using the `update-grub` CLI utility.
But you have to do it from the distro you installed grub with.  If you 
can remember which one you installed grub with, simply run that command 
using `sudo` and it should automatically detect the most recent kernel 
and do it for you.


If you cannot figure out which one you installed it with, reinstall grub 
from the distro you use the most.


On 9/21/22 11:06, Fritz Hudnut wrote:

et al:

Spoke too soon . . . not out of the woods on this one yet. Seems like 
the edits made in the grub "EFI" menu are not maintained on reboot??  
Doesn't seem to be any hints on how to "save" the edits . . . just 
make them and then boot them??? But, then it appears that the edits 
are lost and it's back to the previous version??


After I got 5.19 to boot I used the GUI mainline kernel app to remove 
the old 5.13 kernel, to try to get the system to default to 5.19, but 
on trying today it said, "5.13 not found, hit any key to continue" and 
back into Grub menu we went.


Arrowed down to Lubuntu, pressed "e" and changed the kernel data to 
5.19 and it booted up.


Question is, why doesn't it hold the data??  I've changed both line 
items, the "Lubuntu" and the "advanced options" data and I can boot 
it, one time . . . .  I tried "ctrl o" but that didn't do anything . . 
. .  Do I need to take it to "command line" and then try to "ctrl o" 
it to save it??


F

On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 9:53 AM Fritz Hudnut  
wrote:


Top posting, with impunity!!

So, I got a hint over on Discourse to "check the grub EFI menu" .
. . and once I figured out how to do that, indeed, Lubuntu was
listing itself as "19.10" and set to be booting 5.13 . . . took
some more time to figure out how to edit that data, to the correct
wording for the kernel . . . and that did seem to boot Lubuntu to
5.19!!!

Only "problem" seems to be that when I'm booted in Lubuntu the
Discourse site loads as a white page . . . of whiteness.  I'll
have to reboot into a non-Lu system to get it to load . . . .

So far now it seems like the solution has been invoked . . . .

F


On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 3:45 PM Nio Wiklund
 wrote:

Hi again Fritz,

Is the problematic system your main system or 'only' a
test system? If a
test system you might just reinstall it to get rid of the
problem.

Best regards
Nio





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Re: [lubuntu-users] What happened?? kernel not upgrading during dist-upgrade in kinetic??

2022-09-21 Thread Fritz Hudnut
et al:

Spoke too soon . . . not out of the woods on this one yet.  Seems like the
edits made in the grub "EFI" menu are not maintained on reboot??  Doesn't
seem to be any hints on how to "save" the edits . . . just make them and
then boot them???  But, then it appears that the edits are lost and it's
back to the previous version??

After I got 5.19 to boot I used the GUI mainline kernel app to remove the
old 5.13 kernel, to try to get the system to default to 5.19, but on trying
today it said, "5.13 not found, hit any key to continue" and back into Grub
menu we went.

Arrowed down to Lubuntu, pressed "e" and changed the kernel data to 5.19
and it booted up.

Question is, why doesn't it hold the data??  I've changed both line items,
the "Lubuntu" and the "advanced options" data and I can boot it, one time .
. . .  I tried "ctrl o" but that didn't do anything . . . .  Do I need to
take it to "command line" and then try to "ctrl o" it to save it??

F

On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 9:53 AM Fritz Hudnut  wrote:

> Top posting, with impunity!!
>
> So, I got a hint over on Discourse to "check the grub EFI menu" . . . and
> once I figured out how to do that, indeed, Lubuntu was listing itself as
> "19.10" and set to be booting 5.13 . . . took some more time to figure out
> how to edit that data, to the correct wording for the kernel . . . and that
> did seem to boot Lubuntu to 5.19!!!
>
> Only "problem" seems to be that when I'm booted in Lubuntu the Discourse
> site loads as a white page . . . of whiteness.  I'll have to reboot into a
> non-Lu system to get it to load . . . .
>
> So far now it seems like the solution has been invoked . . . .
>
> F
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 3:45 PM Nio Wiklund  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi again Fritz,
>>>
>>> Is the problematic system your main system or 'only' a test system? If a
>>> test system you might just reinstall it to get rid of the problem.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Nio
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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