Re: Mozilla Firefox-Startpage (Lars Nodden)
Am 26.03.2014 17:02, schrieb lubuntu-users-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com: Message: 3 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 15:26:58 +0200 From: Lars Nood?n lars.noo...@gmail.com To: Lubuntu Users Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Lubuntu-users Digest, Vol 27, Issue 30 Message-ID: 5332d5a2.8050...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 03/26/2014 03:12 PM, fari...@arcor.de wrote: Am 26.03.2014 13:41, schrieb lubuntu-users-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com: It means your info is going to Virginia in the US. They (duckduckgo) use a server located there to process your search terms and give you the info you want. That was clear to me. I was afraid i was dumb and did not understand something underlying. Whois said to me the adresses belong to Amazon? Generally, i might agree that us-based servers could be more privacy critical to not-us citizens than let's say finnish or norvegian servers. To get to Finland for example your traffic will most likely go through Sweden where privacy is even more of a question. :( So, ixquick would be the better option? Anyway, me too, i find the ddg ! feature is great (Try to use it with !ixquick put your searchitem here : great! :D). DDG also operates an onion service, see the bottom of the page at the owner's blog for the address: http://www.gabrielweinberg.com/blog/2010/08/duckduckgo-now-operates-a-tor-exit-enclave.html That would be about the maximum currently available. Regards, /Lars As far as i see (and understand), i'm set up: I'm running on my machine(s) tor; sometimes locally (squid3 - privoxy - tor) or, at home, through an external torbox (a pi rasperry). As for Sweden, you might be right. BUT: as an european, at least theoretically, i'd have the chance to sue them (and if it's by the european court in Luxembourg ;-) :badgrin: Cheers! -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: Mozilla Firefox-Startpage
I'm playing with Wireshark right now, and I found that using duckduckgo on firefox, as a search engine, generates HTTPS requests using TLSv1.2 to IP addresses located in USA, Virginia, Ashburn: 107.21.1.61, 107.21.1.8 2014-03-24 21:12 GMT-03:00 Dale Visser dale.vis...@live.com: I tend to be extra paranoid, and set my Firefox homepage to a DuckDuckGo URL that specifies searches via HTTPS with the search query in the encrypted request body. If there was a way to set the search box to take advantage of this, too, I would love to know about it. Sent from my Windows Phone -- From: fari...@arcor.de Sent: 3/24/2014 5:43 PM To: brendanperr...@gmail.com walteror...@gmail.com; Israelisraeld...@gmail.com Cc: lubuntu user list lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Mozilla Firefox-Startpage Am 24.03.2014 18:32, schrieb brendanperr...@gmail.com: On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 5:00 AM, Israel israeld...@gmail.com mailto:israeld...@gmail.com israeld...@gmail.com wrote: [ . . . ] +1 to duckduckgo! You don't necessarily need to contact ubufox people, can't Lubuntu bundle a different start page? I though that was one of the options when customizing a build of Ubuntu. We could, actually build a page that contains those search engines (both) and uses the Lubuntu logo, right? -- Regards -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/__mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users That what was i thought too. :D But in any case, it does not hurt to have contacted the ubufox people as well. ;-) I'm not sure: duckduckgo comes by default as a searchengine option in firefox? Personally, i deleted yahoo,bing,amazon from that default list and added: ixquick (https), metager (https), firefox help and leo (a vocabulary). Mycroft as a source of hundreds of searchengines is useful. Also, i'm not sure if duckduckgo (when it comes with firefox by default) is https or not. Personally, as quoted already before, i think a mini-introduction (under a link button) on how to add searchengines especially from the point of view of privacy/security would be smart. Together with mentioning https everywhere (eff.org). I think once you have installed that, any search engine would be automatically https, given it exists as such (no need of special installs). Cheers. -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Mozilla Firefox-Startpage
I don't know if someone already mentioned this; if so, my excuses in advance. Nowadays, in times of NSAGHCQ cie, i'd think it would be smart, if the default Startpage of Firefox (managed in some way by ubufox i think) would not offer Google as default searchengine at first, but the choice, which searchengine should be used as default. There are absolutely valid alternatives now (duckduckgo or ixquick at least). Couldn't that be done by a link pointing to some basic privacy/security issues (like https-everywhere etc.) too in the way now it's done for the do not track feature? I thought, if someone of the people engaged in lubuntu is reading here, they could, in case they agree, advance the proposal to the ubufox people. Thanks for your patience. -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: Mozilla Firefox-Startpage
2014-03-24 07:26, fari...@arcor.de skrev: I don't know if someone already mentioned this; if so, my excuses in advance. Nowadays, in times of NSAGHCQ cie, i'd think it would be smart, if the default Startpage of Firefox (managed in some way by ubufox i think) would not offer Google as default searchengine at first, but the choice, which searchengine should be used as default. There are absolutely valid alternatives now (duckduckgo or ixquick at least). Couldn't that be done by a link pointing to some basic privacy/security issues (like https-everywhere etc.) too in the way now it's done for the do not track feature? I thought, if someone of the people engaged in lubuntu is reading here, they could, in case they agree, advance the proposal to the ubufox people. Thanks for your patience. I think this is a good idea :-) I suggest that you make it *your* project to advance such a proposal to the ubufox people. Best regards Nio -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: Mozilla Firefox-Startpage
Am 24.03.2014 07:41, schrieb Nio Wiklund: I think this is a good idea :-) I suggest that you make it *your* project to advance such a proposal to the ubufox people. I would do so, but where do i find them? TIA -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: Mozilla Firefox-Startpage
On 03/24/2014 01:50 AM, fari...@arcor.de wrote: Am 24.03.2014 07:41, schrieb Nio Wiklund: I think this is a good idea :-) I suggest that you make it *your* project to advance such a proposal to the ubufox people. I would do so, but where do i find them? TIA +1 to duckduckgo! You don't necessarily need to contact ubufox people, can't Lubuntu bundle a different start page? I though that was one of the options when customizing a build of Ubuntu. We could, actually build a page that contains those search engines (both) and uses the Lubuntu logo, right? -- Regards -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: Mozilla Firefox-Startpage
What I know is that duckduckgo is usually a way to get to it by default in firefox on the right hand side There is a drop down menu where you can select duckduckgo by defualt. Duckduckgo by default is also useful because of the ! commands. On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 5:00 AM, Israel israeld...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/24/2014 01:50 AM, fari...@arcor.de wrote: Am 24.03.2014 07:41, schrieb Nio Wiklund: I think this is a good idea :-) I suggest that you make it *your* project to advance such a proposal to the ubufox people. I would do so, but where do i find them? TIA +1 to duckduckgo! You don't necessarily need to contact ubufox people, can't Lubuntu bundle a different start page? I though that was one of the options when customizing a build of Ubuntu. We could, actually build a page that contains those search engines (both) and uses the Lubuntu logo, right? -- Regards -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/ mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
RE: Mozilla Firefox-Startpage
I tend to be extra paranoid, and set my Firefox homepage to a DuckDuckGo URL that specifies searches via HTTPS with the search query in the encrypted request body. If there was a way to set the search box to take advantage of this, too, I would love to know about it. Sent from my Windows Phone From: fari...@arcor.demailto:fari...@arcor.de Sent: 3/24/2014 5:43 PM To: brendanperr...@gmail.commailto:walteror...@gmail.com; Israelmailto:israeld...@gmail.com Cc: lubuntu user listmailto:lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Mozilla Firefox-Startpage Am 24.03.2014 18:32, schrieb brendanperr...@gmail.com: On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 5:00 AM, Israel israeld...@gmail.com mailto:israeld...@gmail.com wrote: [ . . . ] +1 to duckduckgo! You don't necessarily need to contact ubufox people, can't Lubuntu bundle a different start page? I though that was one of the options when customizing a build of Ubuntu. We could, actually build a page that contains those search engines (both) and uses the Lubuntu logo, right? -- Regards -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com mailto:Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/__mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users That what was i thought too. :D But in any case, it does not hurt to have contacted the ubufox people as well. ;-) I'm not sure: duckduckgo comes by default as a searchengine option in firefox? Personally, i deleted yahoo,bing,amazon from that default list and added: ixquick (https), metager (https), firefox help and leo (a vocabulary). Mycroft as a source of hundreds of searchengines is useful. Also, i'm not sure if duckduckgo (when it comes with firefox by default) is https or not. Personally, as quoted already before, i think a mini-introduction (under a link button) on how to add searchengines especially from the point of view of privacy/security would be smart. Together with mentioning https everywhere (eff.org). I think once you have installed that, any search engine would be automatically https, given it exists as such (no need of special installs). Cheers. -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
