Re: Boolean Phrase Query question

2004-04-03 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Apr 3, 2004, at 3:05 PM, Ankur Goel wrote:
"By using true on the finalQuery.add calls, you have said that both
fields must have the word "temp" in them.  Is that what you meant?  Or
did you mean an OR type of query?"
I need an OR type of query. I mean the word can be in the filename or 
in the
contents of the filename. But i am not able to do this. Can you tell 
me how
to do it?
I did tell you how to do it.  Use false for both required and 
prohibited flags when adding queries to a BooleanQuery.  Check the 
javadocs for more details.

Keep in mind (and see recent, and frequent, discussion on this topic) 
that your analyzer choice is very important.  Look at my intro Lucene 
article for code to allow you to view what is happening with the 
analysis process.

	Erik


Regards,
Ankur
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Subject: Re: Boolean Phrase Query question
On Apr 3, 2004, at 12:13 PM, Ankur Goel wrote:
Hi,
I have to provide a functionality which provides search on both file
name
and contents of the file.
For indexing I use the following code:

org.apache.lucene.document.Document doc = new org.apache.
lucene.document.Document();
doc.add(Field.Keyword("fileId","" + document.getFileId()));
doc.add(Field.Text("fileName",fileName);
doc.add(Field.Text("contents", new FileReader(new File(fileName)));
I'm not sure what you plan on doing with the fileName field, but you
probably want to use a Keyword field for it.
And you may want to glue the file name and contents together into a
single field to facilitate searches to span both.  (be sure to put a
space in between if you do this)
For searching a text say  "temp" I use the following code to look both
in
file Name and contents of the file:
BooleanQuery finalQuery = new BooleanQuery();
Query titleQuery = QueryParser.parse("temp","fileName",analyzer);
Query mainQuery = QueryParser.parse("temp","contents",analyzer);
finalQuery.add(titleQuery, true, false);
finalQuery.add(mainQuery, true, false);
Hits hits = is.search(finalQuery);
By using true on the finalQuery.add calls, you have said that both
fields must have the word "temp" in them.  Is that what you meant?  Or
did you mean an OR type of query?
	Erik



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RE: Boolean Phrase Query question

2004-04-03 Thread Ankur Goel
Thanks Eric for the solution. I have to filename field as I have to give the
end user facility to search on File Name also. That's   why I am using TEXT
for file Name also.

"By using true on the finalQuery.add calls, you have said that both 
fields must have the word "temp" in them.  Is that what you meant?  Or 
did you mean an OR type of query?"

I need an OR type of query. I mean the word can be in the filename or in the
contents of the filename. But i am not able to do this. Can you tell me how
to do it?

Regards,
Ankur 

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From: Erik Hatcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 1:27 AM
To: Lucene Users List
Subject: Re: Boolean Phrase Query question

On Apr 3, 2004, at 12:13 PM, Ankur Goel wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I have to provide a functionality which provides search on both file 
> name
> and contents of the file.
>
> For indexing I use the following code:
>
>
> org.apache.lucene.document.Document doc = new org.apache.
> lucene.document.Document();
> doc.add(Field.Keyword("fileId","" + document.getFileId()));
> doc.add(Field.Text("fileName",fileName);
> doc.add(Field.Text("contents", new FileReader(new File(fileName)));

I'm not sure what you plan on doing with the fileName field, but you 
probably want to use a Keyword field for it.

And you may want to glue the file name and contents together into a 
single field to facilitate searches to span both.  (be sure to put a 
space in between if you do this)

> For searching a text say  "temp" I use the following code to look both 
> in
> file Name and contents of the file:
>
> BooleanQuery finalQuery = new BooleanQuery();
> Query titleQuery = QueryParser.parse("temp","fileName",analyzer);
> Query mainQuery = QueryParser.parse("temp","contents",analyzer);
>
> finalQuery.add(titleQuery, true, false);
> finalQuery.add(mainQuery, true, false);
>
> Hits hits = is.search(finalQuery);

By using true on the finalQuery.add calls, you have said that both 
fields must have the word "temp" in them.  Is that what you meant?  Or 
did you mean an OR type of query?

Erik



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Re: Boolean Phrase Query question

2004-04-03 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Apr 3, 2004, at 12:13 PM, Ankur Goel wrote:
Hi,
I have to provide a functionality which provides search on both file 
name
and contents of the file.

For indexing I use the following code:

org.apache.lucene.document.Document doc = new org.apache.
lucene.document.Document();
doc.add(Field.Keyword("fileId","" + document.getFileId()));
doc.add(Field.Text("fileName",fileName);
doc.add(Field.Text("contents", new FileReader(new File(fileName)));
I'm not sure what you plan on doing with the fileName field, but you 
probably want to use a Keyword field for it.

And you may want to glue the file name and contents together into a 
single field to facilitate searches to span both.  (be sure to put a 
space in between if you do this)

For searching a text say  "temp" I use the following code to look both 
in
file Name and contents of the file:

BooleanQuery finalQuery = new BooleanQuery();
Query titleQuery = QueryParser.parse("temp","fileName",analyzer);
Query mainQuery = QueryParser.parse("temp","contents",analyzer);
finalQuery.add(titleQuery, true, false);
finalQuery.add(mainQuery, true, false);
Hits hits = is.search(finalQuery);
By using true on the finalQuery.add calls, you have said that both 
fields must have the word "temp" in them.  Is that what you meant?  Or 
did you mean an OR type of query?

	Erik



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Boolean Phrase Query question

2004-04-03 Thread Ankur Goel

Hi, 
I have to provide a functionality which provides search on both file name
and contents of the file.

For indexing I use the following code:


org.apache.lucene.document.Document doc = new org.apache.
lucene.document.Document();
doc.add(Field.Keyword("fileId","" + document.getFileId()));
doc.add(Field.Text("fileName",fileName);
doc.add(Field.Text("contents", new FileReader(new File(fileName)));

For searching a text say  "temp" I use the following code to look both in
file Name and contents of the file:

BooleanQuery finalQuery = new BooleanQuery();
Query titleQuery = QueryParser.parse("temp","fileName",analyzer);
Query mainQuery = QueryParser.parse("temp","contents",analyzer);

finalQuery.add(titleQuery, true, false);
finalQuery.add(mainQuery, true, false);

Hits hits = is.search(finalQuery);

But I am not getting any result. I think the problem is due to searching on
two fields.
Can you please tell me how to go about it.



Regards,
Ankur 


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Re: Zero hits for queries ending with a number

2004-04-03 Thread Erik Hatcher
Extremely well said, Tatu!



On Apr 3, 2004, at 11:24 AM, Tatu Saloranta wrote:
On Saturday 03 April 2004 08:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday 03 April 2004 17:11, Erik Hatcher wrote:
No objections that error messages and such could be made clearer.
Patches welcome!  Care to submit better error message handling in 
this
case?  Or perhaps allow lower-case "to"?
I think the best would be if Lucene would simply have a
setCaseSensitive(boolean).
IMHO it's in any case a bad idea to make searches case-sensitive (per
default).
I'd have to disagree. I think that  search engine core should not have 
to
bother with details of character sets, such as lower-casing. Rules for
lower/upper/initial/mixed case for all Unicode-languages are rather
involved... and if you tried to do that, next thing would be whether
accentuation and umlaut marks should matter or not (which is language
dependant). That's why to me the natural way to go is to do direct
comparison, ignoring case when executing queries. This does not prevent
anyone from implementing such functionality (see below).

I think architecture and design of Lucene core is delightfully simple. 
One can
easily create case-independent functionality by using proper 
analyzers, and
(for the most part), configuring QueryParser. I would agree, however, 
that
QueryParser is "victim of its success"; it's too often used in 
situations
where one really should create proper GUI that builds the query. 
Backend code
can then mangle input as it sees fit, and build query objects.
QueryParser is more natural for quick-n-dirty scenarios, where one 
just has to
slap something together quickly, or if one only has textual interface 
to deal
with. It's nice thing to have, but it has its limitations; there's no 
way to
create one parser that's perfect for every use(r).

What could be done would be to make sure all examples / demo web apps 
would
implement case-insensitive indexing and searching, since that is often 
what
is needed?

-+ Tatu +-


But, also, folks need to really step back and practice basic
troubleshooting skills.  I asked you if that string was what you 
passed
to the QueryParser and you said yes, when in fact it was not.  And 
you
I forgot that I did lower-case it. I fact I even output it in it's 
original
state but lower-case it just before I pass it to lucene. That 
lower-casing
is what I would call a hack and hence it's no surprise that I forgot 
it :-)

Timo

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Re: Zero hits for queries ending with a number

2004-04-03 Thread Tatu Saloranta
On Saturday 03 April 2004 08:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Saturday 03 April 2004 17:11, Erik Hatcher wrote:
> > No objections that error messages and such could be made clearer.
> > Patches welcome!  Care to submit better error message handling in this
> > case?  Or perhaps allow lower-case "to"?
>
> I think the best would be if Lucene would simply have a
> setCaseSensitive(boolean).
>
> IMHO it's in any case a bad idea to make searches case-sensitive (per
> default).

I'd have to disagree. I think that  search engine core should not have to 
bother with details of character sets, such as lower-casing. Rules for 
lower/upper/initial/mixed case for all Unicode-languages are rather 
involved... and if you tried to do that, next thing would be whether 
accentuation and umlaut marks should matter or not (which is language 
dependant). That's why to me the natural way to go is to do direct 
comparison, ignoring case when executing queries. This does not prevent 
anyone from implementing such functionality (see below).

I think architecture and design of Lucene core is delightfully simple. One can 
easily create case-independent functionality by using proper analyzers, and 
(for the most part), configuring QueryParser. I would agree, however, that 
QueryParser is "victim of its success"; it's too often used in situations 
where one really should create proper GUI that builds the query. Backend code 
can then mangle input as it sees fit, and build query objects.
QueryParser is more natural for quick-n-dirty scenarios, where one just has to 
slap something together quickly, or if one only has textual interface to deal 
with. It's nice thing to have, but it has its limitations; there's no way to 
create one parser that's perfect for every use(r).

What could be done would be to make sure all examples / demo web apps would 
implement case-insensitive indexing and searching, since that is often what 
is needed?

-+ Tatu +-

>
> > But, also, folks need to really step back and practice basic
> > troubleshooting skills.  I asked you if that string was what you passed
> > to the QueryParser and you said yes, when in fact it was not.  And you
>
> I forgot that I did lower-case it. I fact I even output it in it's original
> state but lower-case it just before I pass it to lucene. That lower-casing
> is what I would call a hack and hence it's no surprise that I forgot it :-)
>
> Timo
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Re: Zero hits for queries ending with a number

2004-04-03 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Apr 3, 2004, at 10:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I forgot that I did lower-case it. I fact I even output it in it's 
original
state but lower-case it just before I pass it to lucene. That 
lower-casing is
what I would call a hack and hence it's no surprise that I forgot it 
:-)
But why even lowercase?  That is what an analyzer typically does anyway 
(look at the output from AnalysisDemo to see).

Note that there are switches on QueryParser (and MultiFieldQueryParser 
is lacking in this respect, another reason not to use it) that does 
lowercase wildcard terms automatically: 
setLowercaseWildcardTerms(true).  Wildcard terms are not analyzed by 
QueryParser, so this was added to account for it.

	Erik

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Re: Zero hits for queries ending with a number

2004-04-03 Thread lucene
On Saturday 03 April 2004 17:11, Erik Hatcher wrote:
> No objections that error messages and such could be made clearer.
> Patches welcome!  Care to submit better error message handling in this
> case?  Or perhaps allow lower-case "to"?

I think the best would be if Lucene would simply have a 
setCaseSensitive(boolean).

IMHO it's in any case a bad idea to make searches case-sensitive (per 
default).

> But, also, folks need to really step back and practice basic
> troubleshooting skills.  I asked you if that string was what you passed
> to the QueryParser and you said yes, when in fact it was not.  And you

I forgot that I did lower-case it. I fact I even output it in it's original 
state but lower-case it just before I pass it to lucene. That lower-casing is 
what I would call a hack and hence it's no surprise that I forgot it :-)

Timo

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Re: Zero hits for queries ending with a number

2004-04-03 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Apr 3, 2004, at 9:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday 03 April 2004 15:19, Erik Hatcher wrote:
date:[20030101 TO 20030202]
I found the/my bug.

Since Lucene is case-sensitive, I do lower-case all queries for user's
convenience. The ParseException is thrown because the "TO" becomes 
"to".

Well, I really think Lucene needs to daff such stumbling blocks 
aside...
No objections that error messages and such could be made clearer.  
Patches welcome!  Care to submit better error message handling in this 
case?  Or perhaps allow lower-case "to"?

But, also, folks need to really step back and practice basic 
troubleshooting skills.  I asked you if that string was what you passed 
to the QueryParser and you said yes, when in fact it was not.  And you 
slowly fed more details of your scenario (MFQP, some German 
SnowballAnalyzer variant).  Reduce the variables in the equation and 
narrow things down until it works and then incrementally add 
complexity.  I cannot encourage folks enough to try some JUnit 
test-driven *learning* by exploring various scenarios.

	Erik

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Re: Zero hits for queries ending with a number

2004-04-03 Thread lucene
On Saturday 03 April 2004 15:19, Erik Hatcher wrote:
> date:[20030101 TO 20030202]

I found the/my bug. 

Since Lucene is case-sensitive, I do lower-case all queries for user's 
convenience. The ParseException is thrown because the "TO" becomes "to".

Well, I really think Lucene needs to daff such stumbling blocks aside...

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Re: Zero hits for queries ending with a number

2004-04-03 Thread Erik Hatcher
Ok, we're getting somewhere now.

So, where is the exception you encountered when using this utility 
code?!  (i.e. it didn't thrown an exception, so something is different 
in your usage in your code).

I tried this:

Query query = MultiFieldQueryParser.parse("date:[20030101 TO 
20030202]", new String[] { "id", "title", "summary", "contents", "date" 
}, new GermanAnalyzer());

System.out.println("query = " + query.toString());

And it worked fine (only duplicated the query for each field).  No 
exception at all.  Of course I'm guessing on your analyzer since you 
didn't provide that detail (although it shouldn't matter in the 
exception you experienced).

On Apr 3, 2004, at 6:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SnowballAnalyzer("German2"):

Analzying "http://www.yahoo.com/foo/bar.html";
org.apache.lucene.analysis.snowball.SnowballAnalyzer:
[http] [www.yahoo.com] [foo] [bar.html]
So this is the analyzer you want to use, right?

Wildcards should work on "www.yahoo.*"

What is the "German2" stemmer for Snowball?

You've introduced a lot of variables to your equation here 
MultiFieldQueryParser and a non-standard Snowball stemmer.  All of 
which I had to pull out of you for details, each of which is critical 
to understanding the problem.

analyzer you are using, and also do the same on .toString of the query
you parsed.  Those two pieces of info will tell all.
"url:www.yahoo* url:www.yahoo* url:www.yahoo* url:www.yahoo* 
url:www.yahoo*
url:www.yahoo*"

Well, I actually use a MultiFieldQueryParser, that's probably why the 
term
does appear so often. Strange parser, it should be clear that am 
explicit
"url:xyz" should only look in the url field, shouldn't it?
Do you really need to query on multiple fields?  Why not just use the 
plain QueryParser?  If you need an aggregate field, create one at index 
time.  QueryParsing is problematic enough, but adding in MFQP makes it 
even more complicated.

Which Analyzer are you using for indexing?  This same SnowballAnalyzer 
with "German2" stemmer?

	Erik

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Re: Zero hits for queries ending with a number

2004-04-03 Thread lucene
On Saturday 03 April 2004 11:48, Erik Hatcher wrote:
> Provide us the results of running your url through that, using the same

SnowballAnalyzer("German2"):

Analzying "http://www.yahoo.com/foo/bar.html";
org.apache.lucene.analysis.WhitespaceAnalyzer:
[http://www.yahoo.com/foo/bar.html] 

org.apache.lucene.analysis.SimpleAnalyzer:
[http] [www] [yahoo] [com] [foo] [bar] [html] 

org.apache.lucene.analysis.StopAnalyzer:
[http] [www] [yahoo] [com] [foo] [bar] [html] 

org.apache.lucene.analysis.standard.StandardAnalyzer:
[http] [www.yahoo.com] [foo] [bar.html] 

org.apache.lucene.analysis.snowball.SnowballAnalyzer:
[http] [www.yahoo.com] [foo] [bar.html] 

> analyzer you are using, and also do the same on .toString of the query
> you parsed.  Those two pieces of info will tell all.

"url:www.yahoo* url:www.yahoo* url:www.yahoo* url:www.yahoo* url:www.yahoo* 
url:www.yahoo*"

Well, I actually use a MultiFieldQueryParser, that's probably why the term 
does appear so often. Strange parser, it should be clear that am explicit 
"url:xyz" should only look in the url field, shouldn't it?

Timo

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Re: Simple date/range question

2004-04-03 Thread lucene
On Saturday 03 April 2004 11:53, Erik Hatcher wrote:
> I didn't catch in your first message that it was throwing a
> ParseException this is odd.  Are you certain that "date:[20030101
> TO 20030202]" is the complete string your passing to QueryParser?  Did

Yes.

> you subclass QueryParser?  If so, what is that code?  (what is the

No.

I use a MultiFieldQueryParser:

Query qQuery = MultiFieldQueryParser.parse(query, new String[] { "id", 
"title", "summary", "contents", "date" }, GERMAN_ANALYZER); 
Hits hits = searcher.search(qQuery);

> complete stack trace?)

 [java] 12:38:03,109 ERROR [view.SearchAction] 
org.apache.lucene.queryParser.ParseException: Encountered "20030404" at line 
1, column 18.
 [java] Was expecting:
 [java] "]" ...
 [java] org.apache.lucene.queryParser.ParseException: Encountered 
"20030404" at line 1, column 18.
 [java] Was expecting:
 [java] "]" ...
 [java] at 
org.apache.lucene.queryParser.QueryParser.generateParseException(QueryParser.java:994)
 [java] at 
org.apache.lucene.queryParser.QueryParser.jj_consume_token(QueryParser.java:874)
 [java] at 
org.apache.lucene.queryParser.QueryParser.Term(QueryParser.java:657)
 [java] at 
org.apache.lucene.queryParser.QueryParser.Clause(QueryParser.java:521)
 [java] at 
org.apache.lucene.queryParser.QueryParser.Query(QueryParser.java:464)
 [java] at 
org.apache.lucene.queryParser.QueryParser.parse(QueryParser.java:108)
 [java] at 
org.apache.lucene.queryParser.QueryParser.parse(QueryParser.java:87)
 [java] at 
org.apache.lucene.queryParser.MultiFieldQueryParser.parse(MultiFieldQueryParser.java:115)

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Re: Simple date/range question

2004-04-03 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Apr 3, 2004, at 4:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday 02 April 2004 17:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
date:[20030101 TO 20030202]
 [java] 11:05:53,735 ERROR [view.SearchAction]
org.apache.lucene.queryParser.ParseException: Encountered "20030202" 
at line
1, column 18.
 [java] Was expecting:
 [java] "]" ...

Why is this?
I didn't catch in your first message that it was throwing a 
ParseException this is odd.  Are you certain that "date:[20030101 
TO 20030202]" is the complete string your passing to QueryParser?  Did 
you subclass QueryParser?  If so, what is that code?  (what is the 
complete stack trace?)

	Erik

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Re: Zero hits for queries ending with a number

2004-04-03 Thread Erik Hatcher
On Apr 3, 2004, at 3:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You *can* use wildcards with keywords (in fact, a keyword really has 
no
meaning once indexed - everything is a "term" at that point).
Well, I just tried. I  also was surprised actually - but it just 
didn't work.

I can use wildcards for

  doc.add(Field.Text("url", row.getString("url")));

but I cannot for

  doc.add(Field.Keyword("url", row.getString("url")));

  - create a utility (I've posted one on the list in the past) that
shows what your analyzer is doing graphically.
Interesting. Can you give me subject/date of that posting?
AnalysisDemo in this article: 
http://today.java.net/pub/a/today/2003/07/30/LuceneIntro.html

Provide us the results of running your url through that, using the same 
analyzer you are using, and also do the same on .toString of the query 
you parsed.  Those two pieces of info will tell all.

	Erik

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Re: Simple date/range question

2004-04-03 Thread lucene
On Friday 02 April 2004 17:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> date:[20030101 TO 20030202]

 [java] 11:05:53,735 ERROR [view.SearchAction] 
org.apache.lucene.queryParser.ParseException: Encountered "20030202" at line 
1, column 18.
 [java] Was expecting:
 [java] "]" ...

Why is this?

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Re: Zero hits for queries ending with a number

2004-04-03 Thread lucene
On Friday 02 April 2004 23:48, Erik Hatcher wrote:
> On Apr 2, 2004, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Saturday 13 March 2004 11:06, Otis Gospodnetic wrote:
> >> Field.Keyword is suitable for storing data like Url.  Give that a try.
> >
> > I just tried this a minute ago and found that I cannot use wildcards
> > with
> > Keywords: url:www.yahoo.*
>
> You *can* use wildcards with keywords (in fact, a keyword really has no
> meaning once indexed - everything is a "term" at that point).

Well, I just tried. I  also was surprised actually - but it just didn't work.

I can use wildcards for

  doc.add(Field.Text("url", row.getString("url")));

but I cannot for

  doc.add(Field.Keyword("url", row.getString("url")));

>   - create a utility (I've posted one on the list in the past) that
> shows what your analyzer is doing graphically.

Interesting. Can you give me subject/date of that posting?

Timo

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