Re: Re[2]: lug-bg: Nehsto se skapva ama kakvo?
Àìà òîÿ ïúò çàáèâà íÿìà íèùî îáùî ñ "áàø". Àç èìàõ ïîäîáåí ïðîáëåì è ñå îïðàâèõ ÷àê êîãàòî ïîñëóøàõ âñè÷êè äåòî ìè êàçâàõà äà ñè ñìåíÿ ÐÀÌ-à:). - Original Message - From: "Vasil Petrov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 9:26 AM Subject: Re[2]: lug-bg: Nehsto se skapva ama kakvo? > Shte im pisha. No smqtam, che prosto neshto se e skapalo. Trudno e da razbera kakvo i saotvetno da podam malko poveche info po vaprosa. Sistemata si raboteshe dosta vreme bez nikakvi problemi i izvednuj se skapa, kakto i s drugite mashini. > Sluchava mi se _samo_ sas Slackware 8.0, nai lesnoto e da si install Slack 8.1.1, no mi i interesno na kakvo se duljat tiq zabivki. > Spored oops-tracing.txt tova e problem v nqkoi driver. Dori i sega kato pisha maila i cheta oops-tacin.txt izbozq :> > Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address f1487474 > *pde = > Oops: 0002 > CPU:0 > EIP:0010:[]Not tainted > EFLAGS: 00010002 > eax: ebx: 0c10e8e7 ecx: c104d0c0 edx: 0001 > esi: c107f580 edi: 0282 ebp: 00dc esp: c0299e4c > ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018 > Process kjournald (pid: 21, stackpage=c0299000) > Stack: c10e8ed0 c10e8ed8 c029c410 00dc c0154ac9 c107f580 c10e8ed0 c10e9850 >c10e9800 c02b80b0 c10e9838 0002f8ed c0bf6ed0 0014 c0152173 c10e9800 >c02b80b0 c10e9850 c10e9800 c10e9800 c0299ec0 c10e9894 c10e9850 > Call Trace: [] [] [] [] [] >[] [] [] [] [] [] >[] [] > > Code: 89 44 99 18 89 59 14 8b 41 10 8d 50 ff 89 51 10 83 f8 01 75 > > > -Original Message- > From: "Valentin Tzankov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 09:36:34 -0400 > Subject: Re: lug-bg: Nehsto se skapva ama kakvo? > > > > > Tova e "bash" bug prati go na [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > te ste ti dadat informatzija kak da si go precompilirash. > > > > > > Vasil Petrov wrote: > > > > > Hi grupa, > > > ot kakto izpolzvam 2.4.5 i nagore kerneli zve chesto da mi se duni mashinata. > > > Poluchavat se oops saobshteniq, segmentation fault-s i posledno mi izkara: > > > > > > free: called with unallocated block argument > > > last command: exit > > > Stopping myself... > > > I si ubiva bash-a > > > > > > Sega sam s 2.4.17, glibc-2.2.3, gcc 2.95.3. > > > Konfiguraciqta na mashinata nqma znachenie, zashtoto se sluchva ne samo na tazi mashina. > > > Daite nqkakva ideq ot kakvo moje da se poluchavat takiva zabozqvaniq :> > > > btw distribuciqta e malko nad slack 8.0 > > > Preinstalirah glibc-to, zashtoto si misleh, che moje da e zaradi zabozqla lib vav nego ama neise. Nishto ne se opravi. > > > > > > Vasil Petrov > > > ___ > > > @Mail.ru Nacional'naya pochtovaya sluzhba > > > http://www.mail.ru > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). > > > http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora > > > To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html > > > > > > > > > A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). > > http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora > > To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html > > > > > > > > > A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). > http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora > To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html > > A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re[2]: lug-bg: Nehsto se skapva ama kakvo?
Shte im pisha. No smqtam, che prosto neshto se e skapalo. Trudno e da razbera kakvo i saotvetno da podam malko poveche info po vaprosa. Sistemata si raboteshe dosta vreme bez nikakvi problemi i izvednuj se skapa, kakto i s drugite mashini. Sluchava mi se _samo_ sas Slackware 8.0, nai lesnoto e da si install Slack 8.1.1, no mi i interesno na kakvo se duljat tiq zabivki. Spored oops-tracing.txt tova e problem v nqkoi driver. Dori i sega kato pisha maila i cheta oops-tacin.txt izbozq :> Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address f1487474 *pde = Oops: 0002 CPU:0 EIP:0010:[]Not tainted EFLAGS: 00010002 eax: ebx: 0c10e8e7 ecx: c104d0c0 edx: 0001 esi: c107f580 edi: 0282 ebp: 00dc esp: c0299e4c ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018 Process kjournald (pid: 21, stackpage=c0299000) Stack: c10e8ed0 c10e8ed8 c029c410 00dc c0154ac9 c107f580 c10e8ed0 c10e9850 c10e9800 c02b80b0 c10e9838 0002f8ed c0bf6ed0 0014 c0152173 c10e9800 c02b80b0 c10e9850 c10e9800 c10e9800 c0299ec0 c10e9894 c10e9850 Call Trace: [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] Code: 89 44 99 18 89 59 14 8b 41 10 8d 50 ff 89 51 10 83 f8 01 75 -Original Message- From: "Valentin Tzankov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 09:36:34 -0400 Subject: Re: lug-bg: Nehsto se skapva ama kakvo? > > Tova e "bash" bug prati go na [EMAIL PROTECTED] > te ste ti dadat informatzija kak da si go precompilirash. > > > Vasil Petrov wrote: > > > Hi grupa, > > ot kakto izpolzvam 2.4.5 i nagore kerneli zve chesto da mi se duni mashinata. > > Poluchavat se oops saobshteniq, segmentation fault-s i posledno mi izkara: > > > > free: called with unallocated block argument > > last command: exit > > Stopping myself... > > I si ubiva bash-a > > > > Sega sam s 2.4.17, glibc-2.2.3, gcc 2.95.3. > > Konfiguraciqta na mashinata nqma znachenie, zashtoto se sluchva ne samo na tazi >mashina. > > Daite nqkakva ideq ot kakvo moje da se poluchavat takiva zabozqvaniq :> > > btw distribuciqta e malko nad slack 8.0 > > Preinstalirah glibc-to, zashtoto si misleh, che moje da e zaradi zabozqla lib vav >nego ama neise. Nishto ne se opravi. > > > > Vasil Petrov > > ___ > > @Mail.ru Nacional'naya pochtovaya sluzhba > > http://www.mail.ru > > ___ > > > > > > A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). > > http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora > > To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html > > > > > A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). > http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora > To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html > > > A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
lug-bg: 6te ima li skoro install fest v sofia?
Zdraveite na tzialata grupa, az sam nov noveni4ak tuk ama kakvo da se pravi kato sega zapo4vam s Linux :) Ot skoro se zaeh da go izu4avam i iavno e interesen taka 4e za6to da ne nau4a ne6to novo i polezno? Za sajalenia do sega ne sam se sblaskval s Linux "na jivo" a mnogo mi se iska i iavno za tova nai dobriat na4in e install festa > niamam vazmojnost da napuskam sofia za tova pitam dali skoro 6te se organizira otnovo tuk. I o6te dva vaprosa: Na kakva ma6ina moje da se ka4i Linux > razli4ava li se po ne6to iziskvaniata za linux < pitam za6toto naprimer za MacOS mu e nujna specifi4nata platforma ma Macintosh>. I ot kade bih mogal da se snabdia s intalatzia za Linux? Blagodaria predvaritelno. S uvajenia: Sebastianz55 A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: IPX question
Ami po princin kato slogish samo IPX protocol niama kak da komunikirat s ostanalite pc-ta po TCP/IP.Drug e vaprosa dali userite shte se primiriat :)). Ako iskash da gi otdelish s IPX router cheti www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IPX-HOWTO.html . Imai v predvid che triabva da im prekarash otdelno i SAP advertisements. Versiata ti na Netware sashto e ot znachenie - spored neia triabva da setnesh i vida na IPX encapsulaciata (ARPA, SAP, SNAP, 802.3) - nadolu ot Netware 3.11 sa sas 802.3 a nagore sa po default sas SAP. > ne sym mnogo w chas s toja protokol (IPX) taka che naprawo na wyprosa > > imame edin LAN, w LAN-a ima Novell server iskam da otdelia 5 PC-ta ot > LAN-a da mogat da wivdat samo Novell-a i da imat dostyp samo do nego. > Wyzmovno li e da se sledi kakyw tip zajawki prawiat kym server-a. ako se > slovi Linux IPX router i se otdeliat ot LAN segmenta, kak move da se > zadade na linux-a da im dawa dostyp samo do Novell-a... > > pls. ako nqkoj ima neshto po-temata mi pishete na e-mail-a za da ne > trupame group-ata s tozi problem > > 10x in advice > > -- > Stoian Mishev > Internet Administraror, Dolphin-3 BG. > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ #: 5079105 > GSM: +359-88-435168 > > > > A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). > http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora > To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html > > > - Best Regards: Emil Slavov Network Engineer at GlobalCom Ltd. Web: http://emilio.globcom.net E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +359 87 323553 A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: IPX question
Ami po princin kato slogish samo IPX protocol niama kak da komunikirat s ostanalite pc-ta po TCP/IP.Drug e vaprosa dali userite shte se primiriat :)). Ako iskash da gi otdelish s IPX router cheti www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IPX-HOWTO.html . Imai v predvid che triabva da im prekarash otdelno i SAP advertisements. Versiata ti na Netware sashto e ot znachenie - spored neia triabva da setnesh i vida na IPX encapsulaciata (ARPA, SAP, SNAP, 802.3) - nadolu ot Netware 3.11 sa sas 802.3 a nagore sa po default sas SAP. > ne sym mnogo w chas s toja protokol (IPX) taka che naprawo na wyprosa > > imame edin LAN, w LAN-a ima Novell server iskam da otdelia 5 PC-ta ot > LAN-a da mogat da wivdat samo Novell-a i da imat dostyp samo do nego. > Wyzmovno li e da se sledi kakyw tip zajawki prawiat kym server-a. ako se > slovi Linux IPX router i se otdeliat ot LAN segmenta, kak move da se > zadade na linux-a da im dawa dostyp samo do Novell-a... > > pls. ako nqkoj ima neshto po-temata mi pishete na e-mail-a za da ne > trupame group-ata s tozi problem > > 10x in advice > > -- > Stoian Mishev > Internet Administraror, Dolphin-3 BG. > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ #: 5079105 > GSM: +359-88-435168 > > > > A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). > http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora > To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html > > > - Best Regards: Emil Slavov Network Engineer at GlobalCom Ltd. Web: http://emilio.globcom.net E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +359 87 323553 A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: Offlist posts [Was: Re: lug-bg: IPX question]
On 02 10 2002 20:59, Theodor Milkov wrote: na vyprosa: potrysi v archiva na lug-bg (www.mail-archive.com) za IPX routing pod Linux, nakratko imashe nqkolko implementacii rabotesti v user space (IPX protocol support v kernel-a razbira se) - za configurirane na IPX interfaces i daemon za IPX routirane, ponastoqstem poizostaveni dosta ... ipxd i ipxripd, mars_nwe (po4ti kato samba prevrysta Linux box-a v pseudo Novell server) maj se kazvasha - ste te iztormozqt oste pri compilaciqta ako ne gi namerish compiled i to po-dobre da sa static compiled stoto ste beresh qdove s very very old shared libs, koito tinqmash veroqtno po ryka ... Po-lesnoto e da kazhesh na Novell'ite (5.0 i nagore maj beshe) da rabotqt po TCP/IP i all ste sa happy (vyobste IPX gubi users i developers, ne 4e e losh, prosto e izlishno slozhen) ... pyk cepi mrezhata kak ti dusha saka ;-). Imashe na4ini za tunnelirane i bridge-irane ama ne moga da gi komentiram. > On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 07:12:34PM +0300, Plamen Tonev wrote: > > Iskam samo da otbeleja neshto: > > > > Mnogo pyti kogato sym tyrsil za njakakvi specifichni problemi (pri > > kompilirane nai-chesto) sym stigal do post v koito se sreshta podoben > > tekst "ako nqkoj ima neshto po-temata mi pishete na e-mail-a za da ne > > trupame group-ata s tozi problem" i poznaite kakvo sym izrichal - shto za > > glupost - nali idejata na grupata e da se obsyjdat problemi - t.e > > natrupvane dori i na offline opit ako moga taka da go narecha - vseki > > koito go kasae shte prochete, koito ne go kasae pak moje da prochete da i > > da otkrie otgovor na vypros koito go e mychel predi i ne e znael > > iztochnika muizobshto ako shte se postvat tuk postove ot roda 'kajete > > solution-a na private mail' - ne vijdam za kakvo e izobshto mail list. > > Po printsip ima i takav podhod - izprashtat se otgovori directno na > mail-a na pitashtia, a toi na kraia izprashta summary do lista. Mnogo > polezna makar i riadka praktika. bunch of design flows, eto nqkoj: - ako nqkoj otgovori greshno na pitashtiq, ili ne daj bozhe pagubno, nqma koj da go popravi, stoto ne vidi mail-a s bad otgovora, t.e. nqma povsemesten kontrol vyrhu pitaniqta i otgovorite ot vs4iki hora v lista. a bate Linus e kazal pove4e eyes, all bugs sa plitki ;-) -ne e kazano 4e polu4ailiq otgovor-a (pravilen ili ne) ste si napravi truda nakraq da repostne summary, ele pa ako trebe da go redaktira i da go prevede v vid udoben za 4etene kato kraen rezultat ;-) P.S. az kolko nesta sym nau4il za sebe si ot 4uzhdi posts, samo az si znam ;-) taka 4e interoperate forever ;-), razbira se po precenka na usera si ima i stuff za private mails, to tova e do 4uvstvo za takt, i ne mozhe da se syrdim 4e sme razli4ni. -- Greets, fr33zb1 [catching up with Sid (the boy next door who destroyed toys :-)] A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Offlist posts [Was: Re: lug-bg: IPX question]
On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 07:12:34PM +0300, Plamen Tonev wrote: > Iskam samo da otbeleja neshto: > > Mnogo pyti kogato sym tyrsil za njakakvi specifichni problemi (pri kompilirane > nai-chesto) sym stigal do post v koito se sreshta podoben tekst "ako nqkoj ima > neshto po-temata mi pishete na e-mail-a za da ne trupame group-ata s tozi > problem" i poznaite kakvo sym izrichal - shto za glupost - nali idejata na > grupata e da se obsyjdat problemi - t.e natrupvane dori i na offline opit ako > moga taka da go narecha - vseki koito go kasae shte prochete, koito ne go kasae > pak moje da prochete da i da otkrie otgovor na vypros koito go e mychel predi i > ne e znael iztochnika muizobshto ako shte se postvat tuk postove ot roda > 'kajete solution-a na private mail' - ne vijdam za kakvo e izobshto mail list. Po printsip ima i takav podhod - izprashtat se otgovori directno na mail-a na pitashtia, a toi na kraia izprashta summary do lista. Mnogo polezna makar i riadka praktika. > P.S razbira se che ima neshta, koito sa si za private mail samo. Razbira se... > In Music We Trust! Muzikata poniakoga ni vliae ;-) -- Theodor Milkov Administrator IP Networks Davidov Electric Ltd.Phone: +359 (2) 730158 PGP: http://www.zimage.del.bg/zimage.asc A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
RE: lug-bg: RedHat 8.0 - ISOs in .bg(za hora bez net|cdburner)
Zdravej grupa, ako ima hora ot plovdiv koito se nujdaiat ot niakoia linux distribucia no ne mogat da si ia drypnat poradi NoNetReasons ili NoCdBurner mogat da mi pishat lichno... ISKAM DA POIASNIA CHE TOVA NE E PODYL NACHIN ZA REKLAMA... imam vyzmojnost na rabotnoto mi miasto da dyrpam distrota ima i pisachka i cenata ia prilagam samo za dokazatelstvo che ne stava vypros za kryvopijstvo 2,5lv na disk s moj disk 1,5lv na disk s vash disk. iskreno se nadiavam che niama da byda razbran pogreshno ako imate niakakvo pravilo zabraniavashto takiva post-ove se ivinqvam predvaritelno best regards: portal __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: IPX question
Iskam samo da otbeleja neshto: Mnogo pyti kogato sym tyrsil za njakakvi specifichni problemi (pri kompilirane nai-chesto) sym stigal do post v koito se sreshta podoben tekst "ako nqkoj ima neshto po-temata mi pishete na e-mail-a za da ne trupame group-ata s tozi problem" i poznaite kakvo sym izrichal - shto za glupost - nali idejata na grupata e da se obsyjdat problemi - t.e natrupvane dori i na offline opit ako moga taka da go narecha - vseki koito go kasae shte prochete, koito ne go kasae pak moje da prochete da i da otkrie otgovor na vypros koito go e mychel predi i ne e znael iztochnika muizobshto ako shte se postvat tuk postove ot roda 'kajete solution-a na private mail' - ne vijdam za kakvo e izobshto mail list. P.S razbira se che ima neshta, koito sa si za private mail samo. In Music We Trust! On Wed, 02 Oct 2002 18:03:46 +0300 Stoian Mishev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ne sym mnogo w chas s toja protokol (IPX) taka che naprawo na wyprosa > > imame edin LAN, w LAN-a ima Novell server iskam da otdelia 5 PC-ta ot > LAN-a da mogat da wivdat samo Novell-a i da imat dostyp samo do nego. > Wyzmovno li e da se sledi kakyw tip zajawki prawiat kym server-a. ako se > slovi Linux IPX router i se otdeliat ot LAN segmenta, kak move da se > zadade na linux-a da im dawa dostyp samo do Novell-a... > > pls. ako nqkoj ima neshto po-temata mi pishete na e-mail-a za da ne > trupame group-ata s tozi problem > > 10x in advice > > -- > Stoian Mishev > Internet Administraror, Dolphin-3 BG. > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ #: 5079105 > GSM: +359-88-435168 > > > > A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). > http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora > To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html > > msg12625/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: lug-bg: Kernel problems
On 30 09 2002 22:44, Graver wrote: > zdrasti, imam problem sas slaganeto na kernel-2.4.19 pod debian 3.0... > prekompiliram si az kernela kakto trqbva to mi sazdava image, slagam si > go v lilo.conf ... pisha lilo :-) i sled restarta kato se opita da go > bootne oshte pri Loading Linux. i vednaga sledva reboot... ne > moga da si obqsnq zashto e taka ako moje nqkoi da mi pomogne shte sam > mn blagodaren :-) mdaaa mnogo kernel problems ;-) neka po4nem malko po-otdale4e. Mozhe i da e binutils problem .i ponezhe v Debian 3.0 Woody nqma package kernel-image|source-2.4.19 za da mu vidish depends, pogledni v testing (Sarge) paketa kernel-source-2.4.19 ot kakvo depends , t.e.: binutils 2.13.90.0.4-1 (i ot drugi de) ako iskash instalitaj binutils ot testing i rebuild 2.4.19 kernel-a. apt-get install -t testing binutils (tova se get-net binutils ot testing + depends) Debian ne te zadylzhava da polzvash debian kernel packages: kernel-image-* , kernel-source-* i da buildvash posledniq 4rez kernel-package (perl scripts za kernel builds)... no ako go pravish bez tqh mozhesh da se konsultirash za tova kakvo trebe da imash installed ili ne i da kompilirash kakvito si iskash kernel sources (i ot kernel.org razbira se) po universalniq standarten na4in kojto si znaesh. Vsystnost tezi depends koito sa set-nati v debian kernel packages sa pro4eteni ot Documentation/Changes file-a i drugi docs v source-a na kernela ;-) ako pak ne stane i s binutils ot testing , togava se ysymnqvash v arch linker scripta na kernel-a . pravish tova deto suggest-va message-a na debian binutils package-a: redaktirash linker script-a v source-a na (2.4.19) kernela za tvoqta architektura, ako si s x86 (PC) tova e /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/vmlinux.lds namirash reda 'DISCARD' v kraq na file-a i iztrivash pyrviq red sled { t.e. reda *(.text.exit) safe,rebuild, install, reboot. P.S. tazi promqna i linker scripta na kernela mozhe da se opita i ot drugiq user imash kernel related problemi ... P.S. kazhete pri uspesh 4e pri men takova povedenie ne mozhe da se reproducira s 2.4.19 naprimer i various binutils versions... -- Greets, fr33zb1 [catching up with Sid (the boy next door who destroyed toys :-)] A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
lug-bg: IPX question
ne sym mnogo w chas s toja protokol (IPX) taka che naprawo na wyprosa imame edin LAN, w LAN-a ima Novell server iskam da otdelia 5 PC-ta ot LAN-a da mogat da wivdat samo Novell-a i da imat dostyp samo do nego. Wyzmovno li e da se sledi kakyw tip zajawki prawiat kym server-a. ako se slovi Linux IPX router i se otdeliat ot LAN segmenta, kak move da se zadade na linux-a da im dawa dostyp samo do Novell-a... pls. ako nqkoj ima neshto po-temata mi pishete na e-mail-a za da ne trupame group-ata s tozi problem 10x in advice -- Stoian Mishev Internet Administraror, Dolphin-3 BG. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #: 5079105 GSM: +359-88-435168 A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
RE: lug-bg: Nehsto se skapva ama kakvo?
Ako polu4ish smislen otgowor, zapoznaj ni s nego... Best e-gards, Georgi Sinapov > -Original Message- > From: Valentin Tzankov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 4:37 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: lug-bg: Nehsto se skapva ama kakvo? > > Tova e "bash" bug prati go na [EMAIL PROTECTED] > te ste ti dadat informatzija kak da si go precompilirash. A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: Nehsto se skapva ama kakvo?
Tova e "bash" bug prati go na [EMAIL PROTECTED] te ste ti dadat informatzija kak da si go precompilirash. Vasil Petrov wrote: > Hi grupa, > ot kakto izpolzvam 2.4.5 i nagore kerneli zve chesto da mi se duni mashinata. > Poluchavat se oops saobshteniq, segmentation fault-s i posledno mi izkara: > > free: called with unallocated block argument > last command: exit > Stopping myself... > I si ubiva bash-a > > Sega sam s 2.4.17, glibc-2.2.3, gcc 2.95.3. > Konfiguraciqta na mashinata nqma znachenie, zashtoto se sluchva ne samo na tazi >mashina. > Daite nqkakva ideq ot kakvo moje da se poluchavat takiva zabozqvaniq :> > btw distribuciqta e malko nad slack 8.0 > Preinstalirah glibc-to, zashtoto si misleh, che moje da e zaradi zabozqla lib vav >nego ama neise. Nishto ne se opravi. > > Vasil Petrov > ___ > @Mail.ru Nacional'naya pochtovaya sluzhba > http://www.mail.ru > ___ > > > A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). > http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora > To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html > A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: Nehsto se skapva ama kakvo?
On 02 10 2002 14:50, George Danchev wrote: > On 02 10 2002 15:03, Vasil Petrov wrote: > > Hi grupa, > > ot kakto izpolzvam 2.4.5 i nagore kerneli zve chesto da mi se duni > > mashinata. Poluchavat se oops saobshteniq, segmentation fault-s i > > posledno mi izkara: > > ne e vinoven kernel source-a na 2.4.5 i nagore , ABI-to (Application Binary > Interface-a) ne e promenqn, ili pone ne e bil napraven nesyvmestim s po > dolni versions. zabravih binutils ... version ? i kak ot kyde e installed ... stoto zaradi broken binutils mozhe i da se prevent-va pravilniq build na kernel-a pri compile ... Ako ste track-vash slack current use: http://georgi.unixsol.org/programs/sl8upd/ i upgrade vsi4ki packages koito imash intalled, a ne edni da upgrade a drugi ne... stoto nqma garanciq 4e vinagi vsi4ko ste work ako e mixed upgrade. ta eventualno ako e kernel build problem, upgrade binutils i recompile kernela za vseki slu4aj. Ako pak ima grizhi sync s slack current na cqlo ... -- Greets, fr33zb1 [catching up with Sid (the boy next door who destroyed toys :-)] A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: Nehsto se skapva ama kakvo?
On 02 10 2002 15:03, Vasil Petrov wrote: > Hi grupa, > ot kakto izpolzvam 2.4.5 i nagore kerneli zve chesto da mi se duni > mashinata. Poluchavat se oops saobshteniq, segmentation fault-s i posledno > mi izkara: ne e vinoven kernel source-a na 2.4.5 i nagore , ABI-to (Application Binary Interface-a) ne e promenqn, ili pone ne e bil napraven nesyvmestim s po dolni versions. > free: called with unallocated block argument > last command: exit > Stopping myself... > I si ubiva bash-a ama tova pri izpylnenie na shell script ili pri login, dokato se opitva da startira shell-a na usera ? > Sega sam s 2.4.17, glibc-2.2.3, gcc 2.95.3. > Konfiguraciqta na mashinata nqma znachenie, zashtoto se sluchva ne samo na > tazi mashina. Daite nqkakva ideq ot kakvo moje da se poluchavat takiva > zabozqvaniq :> btw distribuciqta e malko nad slack 8.0 mnogo neordeleno. obiknoveno se data to4ni versii na distro paketite ili upstream (original) sources i kak sa bili built installed... ina4e si govorim naizust na razli4ni ezici ;-) > Preinstalirah glibc-to, zashtoto si misleh, che moje da e zaradi zabozqla > lib vav nego ama neise. Nishto ne se opravi. pone kazhi kak instalira/nadgradi novo glibc ... ot slackware package-a ot current i upgradepkg ili go compile ot upstream sources sledvajki build tips ot SlackBuild ili kakto si se setil si podal compile install options taka se polu4avat naj-lesno zabozishe s stalled files, override-nati i ne override-nati i t.n. files. Nakratko, opitaj s upgradepkg slackware_glibc_package i potyrsi w archiva na grupata edin mnogo hityr na4in ot Aleksandyr Popov maj beshe za compile na glibc, bez install system-wide, , testvane na apps koito go polzvat (t.n. linked against glibc libs) i ako e OK install ... Mislq 4e kulturata na instalirane/upgrade-vane i premahvane na software v edna GNU/Linux e pyrvoto nesto koeto trqbva da nau4i 4ovek. I ponezhe sistemata e super otvorena, s nekulturni dejstviq ot strana na root (God!) lesno mozhe da byde dokarana do skapvane (pri koeto users ostavat s greshni vpe4atleniq), koeto posle e pain on the admin's ass. -- Greets, fr33zb1 [catching up with Sid (the boy next door who destroyed toys :-)] A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
RE: lug-bg: RedHat 8.0 - ISOs in .bg
Kachil sym novite redhat i mandrake na http://mirrors.ludost.net/cd-images Reorganizirah podredbata po direktorii. w momenta imam ldp mirror debian, debian-non-us, debian-security mirrors cd images: debian 3.0r0 slackware 8.1 redhat 7.3, 8.0 mandrake 8.2, 9.0 suse 8.0 gentoo 1.2 knoppix 3.1-10-09-2002b Specialni blagodarnosti na Unix Solutions za okazanata pomosht i idei. Ako nqkoj iska nqkoj drug cd image da mi drasne edin mail - shte go drypna. BR, Boyan Krosnov, CCIE#8701 http://boyan.ludost.net/ Just another techie speaking for himself > -Original Message- > From: Georgi Chorbadzhiyski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 6:38 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: lug-bg: RedHat 8.0 - ISOs in .bg > > > Boyan Krosnov wrote: > > q kaji ot kyde gi teglish che ot pri teb mi e bawno a mi se > shte da gi > > kacha i na marla > > 2 dni se mycha i sam gi svalial ot pone 5 mirror-a, ot redhat.com ot > dva universiteta v avstria i dva v germania. ISO N5 sled 10 min i > to shte e online :) > > > -- > Georgi Chorbadzhiyski > http://georgi.unixsol.org/ > > == > == > A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). > http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. > - Stara Zagora > To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html > == > == > A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
lug-bg: Nehsto se skapva ama kakvo?
Hi grupa, ot kakto izpolzvam 2.4.5 i nagore kerneli zve chesto da mi se duni mashinata. Poluchavat se oops saobshteniq, segmentation fault-s i posledno mi izkara: free: called with unallocated block argument last command: exit Stopping myself... I si ubiva bash-a Sega sam s 2.4.17, glibc-2.2.3, gcc 2.95.3. Konfiguraciqta na mashinata nqma znachenie, zashtoto se sluchva ne samo na tazi mashina. Daite nqkakva ideq ot kakvo moje da se poluchavat takiva zabozqvaniq :> btw distribuciqta e malko nad slack 8.0 Preinstalirah glibc-to, zashtoto si misleh, che moje da e zaradi zabozqla lib vav nego ama neise. Nishto ne se opravi. Vasil Petrov ___ @Mail.ru Nacional'naya pochtovaya sluzhba http://www.mail.ru ___ A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: .deb creation questions
On 02 10 2002 13:36, Ivan Dimitrov wrote: > Çäðàâåé ãðóïà > > Îò èçâåñòíî âðåìå ñå îïòâàì äà ñúçäàì íÿêîëêî äåáèàíñêè ïàêåòà (çà ôèðìåíà > óïîòðåáà ñ íàø ñè ñîôòóåð). Èìàì îáà÷å íÿêîëêî âúïðîñà. Äîêîëêîòî ðàçáðàõ, àç íÿìàì îïèò ïðè ïàêåòèðàíåòî, íî ïúðâî ñå ÷åòå: apt-get install debian-policy maint-guide /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/ /usr/share/doc/maint-guide/ > â debian/conffiles òðÿáâà äà îïèøà ôàéëîâåòå êîèòî èñêàì äà ìå ïèòà äàëè > èñêàì äà ïðîìåíÿ àêî èìà ðàçëèêà ìåæäó äâàòà. Îáà÷å èñêàì äà ïðîìåíÿ > ôàéëîâå, êîèòî ãè èìà è â äðóãè ïàêåòè êàòî ïðèìåðà êîèòî ñúì äàë â bind9: > /etc/bind/named.conf. > > dpkg: error processing all-bastun-1.0.1_0.0.1-1_all.deb (--install): > trying to overwrite `/etc/bind/named.conf', which is also in package > bind9 > dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) òî÷íî â òîçè ñëó÷àé, ñå ïðåïîðú÷âà äà íå îïèñâàø named.conf â conffiles íà òâîÿ debian source package (upstream + debian/ dir) òî÷êà 5.2: file:///usr/share/doc/maint-guide/maint-guide.en.html/ch-dother.en.html ãëàâà 6: file:///usr/share/doc/debian-policy/policy.html/ch-maintainerscripts.html > > Îñâåí òîâà èñêàì äà ïèòàì â debian/postinst|rm debian/preinst|rm è â > debian/rules ôàéëà ìîãà ëè äà ïèøà îáèêíîâåí shell ñêðèïò? preinst, prerm, postinst, postrm çà øåë ñêðèïòîâå, ïàçè ñå îò bash-èçúì, ùîòî user-à ìîæå äà èìà çà sh íå bash è zsh äà ðå÷åì (sh->shell). rules å íàé-îáèêíîâåí Makefile çà GNU make (ùîòî èìà è BSD make), âèæ ïúòÿ äî interpreter-a â íà÷àëîòî íà rules. Òà îò åäèí source package-a, ìîæå äà ñå ïîëó÷àò íÿêîëêî binary packages (deb, man deb, see magic number, òîâà å ar àðõèâ). Ñëåä èíñòàëë àêî èìà ãðèæè ñ áúãàâè post- pre- scripts ìîæåø ãè ðåäàêòèðàø íàïðàâî â /var/liv/dpkg/info/per package è dpkg-reconfigure bad_scripted_package ;-) ; è ò.í. -- Greets, fr33zb1 [catching up with Sid (the boy next door who destroyed toys :-)] A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: RedHat 8.0! Cheers! (addon to Chepelare install fest posting)
On 01 10 2002 09:03, Vladimir Gerdjikov wrote: > Hi, > äà íè å ÷åñòèò! Âå÷å ñå ñâàëÿ è ñå íàäÿâàì íà install fest-à â > ×åïåëàðå äà ãî âèäèì. > Âíèìàíèå! Íèêîé äà íå ãî ñëàãà íà production ñèñòåìè :P, çàùîòî ùå å > áúãàâ! :)) Ñïîðåä ìåí äîðè, òîâà ùå å íàé-áúãàâèÿ Linux êîéòî ñìå > âèæäàëè. Èçäàäåí ïðåäâàðèòåëíî è îìàçàí çàðàäè KDE è Gnome òîâà ùå å > íåùî íåâèæäàíî - âñå ïàê îñíîâàòà ñè å îò 7.3, à òîâà ïúê ñè áåøå ñóïåð > äèñòðèáóöèÿ. Íî çàòîâà ñà è install fest-îâåòå. Çà äà ìîæå äà ñå âèäè íåùî > íîâî è äà ñå âäèãíå øóì ïî ìåäèèòå - à íå ñàìî ïî Linux ãðóïèòå. ìîæå áè âå÷å íÿêîè õîðà ñà èíñòàëèðàëè è òåñòâàëè RH 8.0 è MDK 9.0 è ïîíåæå íÿìà äà èìàì âðåìå è àç äà ãè òåñòâàì, ìîëÿ íÿêîé äà ñïîäåë âïå÷àòëåíèÿ. Ñëåä êàòî ñå àáñòðàõèðàìå îò äåòàéëè êàòî óíèôèöèðàíå íà KDE è GNOME default desktops (ïîçäðàâëåíèÿ çà RH, òîâà å êðà÷êà êúì êîíñèñòåíòíîñò, è íå âèæäàì íèùî îìàçàíî òóêà, ïúê ïîòðåáèòåëÿ ìîæå âèíàãè äà ãî ïðîìåíè) ìå èíòåðåñóâà ñëåäíîòî: -default gcc/glibc/kernel version, ãîðå äîëó êàêâè ñà ïðîìåíèòå ñïðÿìî îðèãèíàëíèòå upstream sources. Àêî å gcc 3.2 , òî öÿëàòà äèñòðèáóöèÿ ëè å êîìïèëèðàíà ñ íåãî. -èìà ëè òåîðåòè÷åñêà sane & safe âúçìîæíîñò çà upgrade îò ïî-ñòàðà âåðñèÿ ñ ïðîèçâîëíî êîëè÷åñòâî èíñòàëèðàíè ïàêåòè, è êàêâî å ñúñòîÿíèåòî íà frontends êúì rpm, êàòî up2date è rpmdrake/urpm P.S. ìîëÿ áåç flames, àêî íÿêîé èìà îïèò íåêà îòãîâîðè êîíêðåòíî íà âúïðîñèòå. Áëàãîäàðÿ. -- Greets, fr33zb1 [catching up with Sid (the boy next door who destroyed toys :-)] A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
lug-bg: .deb creation questions
Çäðàâåé ãðóïà Îò èçâåñòíî âðåìå ñå îïòâàì äà ñúçäàì íÿêîëêî äåáèàíñêè ïàêåòà (çà ôèðìåíà óïîòðåáà ñ íàø ñè ñîôòóåð). Èìàì îáà÷å íÿêîëêî âúïðîñà. Äîêîëêîòî ðàçáðàõ, â debian/conffiles òðÿáâà äà îïèøà ôàéëîâåòå êîèòî èñêàì äà ìå ïèòà äàëè èñêàì äà ïðîìåíÿ àêî èìà ðàçëèêà ìåæäó äâàòà. Îáà÷å èñêàì äà ïðîìåíÿ ôàéëîâå, êîèòî ãè èìà è â äðóãè ïàêåòè êàòî ïðèìåðà êîèòî ñúì äàë â bind9: /etc/bind/named.conf. dpkg: error processing all-bastun-1.0.1_0.0.1-1_all.deb (--install): trying to overwrite `/etc/bind/named.conf', which is also in package bind9 dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Êàê äà ãî íàïðàâÿ òàêà ÷å äà ìå ïèòà äàëè èñêàì äà ïðîìåíÿ ôàéëà? Îñâåí òîâà èñêàì äà ïèòàì â debian/postinst|rm debian/preinst|rm è â debian/rules ôàéëà ìîãà ëè äà ïèøà îáèêíîâåí shell ñêðèïò? Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature, please! Ideas, like everything else in life, deserves to be free. A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: Kernel problems
On 02 10 2002 10:23, Damyan Ivanov wrote: > On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 10:44:35PM +0300 Graver wrote: > > zdrasti, imam problem sas slaganeto na kernel-2.4.19 pod debian 3.0... > > prekompiliram si az kernela kakto trqbva to mi sazdava image, slagam si > > go v lilo.conf ... pisha lilo :-) i sled restarta kato se opita da go > > bootne oshte pri Loading Linux. i vednaga sledva reboot... ne > > moga da si obqsnq zashto e taka ako moje nqkoi da mi pomogne shte sam > > mn blagodaren :-) > > Ìîé êîëåãà èìàøå òàêúâ ïðîáëåì, áåøå âêëþ÷èë ïîääðúæêàòà íà SGI, à ãî > ïèñêàøå íà îáèêíîâåíî PC, ðàçáèðà ñå... à òóêà íåùî ñå èçëúãàõìå ìàé...;-) ïî-ïîäðàçáèðàíå ñîðñà ñå êîíôèãóðèðà çà áóèëäâàíå çà àðõèòåêòóðàòà íà êîÿòî ñå êîìïèëèðà (èìà è íà÷èí çà cross-compile çà äðóãà arch, íî íå ñå ñåùàì êàê áåøå). ò.å. ïî ïîäðàçáèðàíå ïðè make {menu|x}config ñå óñòàíîâÿâà arch-a è ñå ïðàâè àâòîìàòè÷íî åäèí symlink (åäèíñòâåíèÿ êîéòî ñå ïðàâè ïðè ïîòðåáèòåëÿ) â ñîðñà íà ÿäðîòî - include/asm -> include/asm- (àñåìáëåðíèÿ èëè àðõèòåêòóðíî çàâèñèì êîä å ÿñíî îòäåëåí îò àðõèòåêòóðíî íåçàâèñèìèÿ òàêúâ) è îñâåí òîâà ñå âêëþ÷âàò â .config-a ôàéëîâåòå arch//config.in ñïåöèôè÷íè çà äàäåíàòà àðõèòåêòóðà... Ñåãà òâîÿ ÷îâåê ìîæå äà å âêëþ÷èë ïîääðúæêà íà íÿêúô õàðäóåðåí/ñîôòóåðåí êîìïîëåíò íà SGI , íî òîé îïðåäåëåíî å áèë çà x86 , îñâåí àêî íå å ïðàâèë cross-compile P.S. to clear a little bit ;-) -- Greets, fr33zb1 [catching up with Sid (the boy next door who destroyed toys :-)] A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: Kernel problems
On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 10:44:35PM +0300 Graver wrote: > zdrasti, imam problem sas slaganeto na kernel-2.4.19 pod debian 3.0... > prekompiliram si az kernela kakto trqbva to mi sazdava image, slagam si > go v lilo.conf ... pisha lilo :-) i sled restarta kato se opita da go > bootne oshte pri Loading Linux. i vednaga sledva reboot... ne > moga da si obqsnq zashto e taka ako moje nqkoi da mi pomogne shte sam > mn blagodaren :-) Ìîé êîëåãà èìàøå òàêúâ ïðîáëåì, áåøå âêëþ÷èë ïîääðúæêàòà íà SGI, à ãî ïèñêàøå íà îáèêíîâåíî PC, ðàçáèðà ñå... äàì -- Damyan Ivanov Creditreform Bulgaria [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.creditreform.bg/ phone: +359 2 928 2611, 929 3993 fax: +359 2 920 0994 mobile: +359 88 566067 A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: Re:OpenOffice - bg dictionary
On 02 10 2002 09:40, Rosen Karaivanov wrote: > Ste byde li nyakoi taka dobyr da pripomni kyde moze > wse pak da byde nameren tozi prewod? Trudno mi e da > si spomnya URL, a w ariwa grupata ne mozah da go namerya :-( â åäíî ïðåäíî ïèñìî áÿõ ïîñî÷èë ïîíå CVS repository-òî;-) http://lug-bg.sf.net/ http://sf.net/projects/lug-bg cvs access do repository-to: anon/read & devel/write details: http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=50701 cvs module: translations/oo -- Greets, fr33zb1 [catching up with Sid (the boy next door who destroyed toys :-)] A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html