Re: lug-bg: xine audioplugin

[Victor Senderov]

On Friday 14 February 2003 14:09, George Danchev wrote:

>
> Ñ äâå äóìè èíôîðìàöèÿòà êîÿòî ñè äàë å íåäîñòàòú÷íà è íåïðåöèçíà çà äà òè
> ñå äàäå òî÷åí îòãîâîð (òðÿáâàò âåðñèè íà ñîðñîâå íà ïðîãðàìàòà, àêî å îò
> cvs êîé òàã è ò.í., çàãëàâíèòå ôàéëîâå êîèòî âêëþ÷âà è ò.í., ïîíÿêîãà è
> êîìïèë+ëèíêåð âåðñèèòå ñà âàæíè).

Îê, ÿñíî.  Ïðîñòî íå èñêàõ äà çàòðóïâàì ãðóïàòà ñ ïðåìíîãî èíôî, çàùîòî ñúì 
ïî÷òè ñèãóðåí, ÷å êîäà íå ìîæå äà ñå êîìïèëèðà, à íå ÷å ñúì îáúðêàë çàãëàâíè 
ôàéëîâå è ò.í.  Èìàì íÿêàêúâ ìèíèìàëåí îïèò ñ ïðîãðàìèðàíåòî è òèÿ íåùà ñà ìè 
ÿñíè, ìàêàð ÷å íå òâúðäÿ, ÷å ðàçáèðàì êàêâî "òî÷íî" ïðàâÿò ./configure, make 
install è äð. ïîäîáíè.

Ñèñòåìàòà: RedHat 7.3, úïäåéòíàò ñúñ âñè÷êî, äåòî å èçëÿçëî îò RedHat çà 7.3 è 
ñ íåêîé rpm-îâå (ÿáúëêè è êðóøè), äåòî íå ñà îò RedHat, íî ïúê ñå 
install-íàõà áåç ïðîáëåì (íàïð. KDE 3.1 îò ASPLinux) è ïî÷òè íèùî íå ñúì 
êà÷âàë îò íå-rpm (ìîæå áè ñàìî bglinux íà Àíòîí Çèíîâèåâ è mozilla 1.2.1).  
ßäðî 2.4.18-3, àìà òîâà åäâà ëè èìà çíà÷åíèå.  Xine âåðñèÿ:

This is xine (X11 gui) - a free video player v0.9.13
(c) 2000-2002 by G. Bartsch and the xine project team.
Built with xine library 0.9.13 [Sun 04 Aug 2002 22:39:58]-[gcc version 2.96 
2731 (Red Hat Linux 7.3 2.96-112)]-[Linux 2.4.18-5 i686].
Found xine library version: 0.9.13 (0.9.13).
XServer Vendor: The XFree86 Project, Inc. Release: 4020,
Protocol Version: 11, Revision: 0,
Available Screen(s): 1, using 0
Depth: 24.

Íà óåá-ñòðàíèöàòà (http://rambo.its.tudelft.nl/~ewald/xine/) èìà îïèñàíèå çà 
äâå âåðñèè íà artsplugin: åäíàòà çà âåðñèè íà xine 0.9.9...0.9.13, äðóãàòà çà 
1.0.0.  Òàçè çà 1.0.0 ñå òåãëè äèðåêòíî, à çà 0.9.13 (ìîÿòà âåðñèÿ) ñå òåãëè 
îò KDE cvs, cvs co multimedia, êîåòî è íàïðàâèõ.  Èìàì è ïðàâèëíèòå header 
files: 

xine-libs-devel-0.9.13-fr2
xine-libs-0.9.13-fr2

è ñúîòâåòíî âñè÷êèòå tool-âå, êîèòî ìè òðÿáâàò îò ñîðòà íà autoconf 1.6 è ò.í.

> Ãëåäàì, ÷å íèêîé ìàé íÿìà äà òè îòãîâîðè, íåðàçáðàõ òî÷íî è êîè ñîðñîâå ñå
> îïèòâàø äà êîìïèëèðàø, òå êàêâè .h ôàéëîâå âêëþ÷âàò (îò êîè âåðñèè,
> àëàáàëà), ñòàòè÷íî èëè äèíàìè÷íî ùå ñå ñâúðçâàò è ñ êîè áèáëèîòåêè òî÷íî,
> çà òîâà ùå òè îáÿñíÿ íàáúðçî ïî-îáùî êàê ñòîÿò íåùàòà, ïúê òè ùå ñå ñåòèø
> ñàì êàê äà ïðîöåäèðàø â òâîèòà ñèòóàöèÿ. Çíà÷è äîñòà õîðà ñè ìèñëÿò, ÷å
> èçïúëíÿâàéêè ìàãè÷åñêàòà ïîðåäèöà îò configure, make, make install âñè÷êî å
> ÎÊ èëè òðÿáâà äà áúäå ÎÊ;-)  Äîêàòî íå ñå îïðåäåëÿò òî÷íî ãîðíèòå
> ðàáîòè äåòî òè èçïèñàõ äîðè è äà íÿìà ïðîãðàìíè ãðåøêè â êîäà íÿìà äà
> êîìïèëèðàø è ñâúðæåø íèùî, ùîòî äà êàæåì íàïðèìåð íÿêúäå â ñîðñà ñå âêëþ÷âà
> íÿêîé ñè .h ôàéë, äà îáà÷å â òâîÿòà ñèñòåìà òîé ãî íÿìà èëè íå å â òî÷íàòà
> âåðñèÿ êîÿòî ñå î÷àêâà äà ñå âêëþ÷è îò ñîðñà, ñåùàø ñå êàêâà áîçà ñòàâà...

ßñíî.  Çà òîâà è èçòåãëèõ âñè÷êî, êàêâîòî "ìèñëÿ", ÷å å ïðàâèëíî.  Ïðîáëåìúò 
å, ÷å íÿìà íèêàêâà äîêóìåíòàöèÿ çà òîçè plugin.  Íå ìîãà äà ñå "çàêúëíà", ÷å 
èìà ãðåøêè â êîäà, íî ïðîñòî êîìïèëèðàíåòî å ìíîãî çàìîòàíî è çàòîâà ìè 
òðÿáâà êîìïèëèðàíà âåðñèÿ íà òîÿ plugin (ïî æåëàíèå ñòàòè÷íî ñâúðçàíà).  Àêî 
è òÿ íå òðúãíå: ëîøî íÿìà, ùå ÷àêàì xine äà ïóñíàò íîâàòà âåðñèÿ 1.0.0 áåç 
áúãîâå è ùå ñè ãëåäàì ôèëìè ñ íåÿ: äîòîãàâà winboze.

> (ñàì ìîæå áè ìîæåø äà ñå ñåòèø çà äðóãè compile/linkage failed ïðèìåðè) ...
>   Àêî äà êàæåì ãî èìàø îòíÿêúäå êîìïèëèðàíî è ñâúðçàíî äèíàìè÷íî òî ïàê
> íÿìà ãàðàíöèÿ ÷å ùå ñè íàìåðè òî÷íî â òâîéòà ñèñòåìà êîðåêòíèòå .so, .là è
> ò.í. áèáëèîòåêè ïðè ñòàðòèðàíåòî è äèíàìè÷íîòî ñâúðçâàíå... Çíà÷è îñòàâà
> èëè íÿêîé äà òè ãî ïðàòè ñâúðçàíî ñòàòè÷íî èëè òè äà ñè ãî êîìïèëèðàø ïðè
> òåá (ñëåä êàòî ðàçðåøèø ãîðíèòå óñëîâèÿ, ðàçãëåæäàéêè ñîðñà èëè
> äîêóìåíòàöèÿòà, àêî ÿ èìà) è ñâúðæåø êàêòî íàìåðèø çà äîáðå (íàé-âåðîÿòíî
> äèíàìè÷íî)... 

Âñè÷êî ÿñíî è òî÷íî.

> Òîâà ñà ò.í. (run)-depends è build-depends (èìà è conflicts)
> è â Debian íàïðèìåð ñà "must" -
> ïîòðåáèòåëèòå ñà îáó÷åíè è çíàÿò çà êàêâî èäå ðå÷ ïðè build-âàíå è
> run-âàíå. Åäèíñòâåíîòî êîåòî ìîãà äà çàêëþ÷à ñ 99% ñèãóðíîñò å, ÷å target
> system íå å Debian, èíà÷å íÿìàøå äà èìàø òàêèâà òåðçàíèÿ èëè ïîíå íå â òîçè
> ñòðàøåí âèä.

Íå å.

>
> P.S. íÿäÿâàì ñå äîñòà õîðà äà ðàçáåðàò ïîíÿòèÿòà êîìïèëèðàíå è ñâúðçâàíå è
> íåîáõîäèìîòî çà òÿõíèÿ óñïåõ, äðóãîòî å ðåëèãèÿ è ïëèòêî ãëåäàíå íà íåùàòà.

ÎÊ.  Áëàãîäàðÿ çà èç÷åðïàòåëíèÿ îòãîâîð.  Ùå ñå ïîìú÷à äà ãî êîìïèëèðàì îùå 
èçâåñòíî âðåìå.

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Re: lug-bg: avtomatizirane na scp (10x za otgovorite)

[Victor Senderov]

On Friday 14 February 2003 22:20, raptor wrote:
> ]- Ima nachin trqbwa da polzwash  keychain+ssh-agent  togawa parolata
> se zadawa wednyv kato se lognesh i ot tam natatak pri ssh,scp, rsync -e shh
> etc... ne e nuvno da pishesh parola keychain-a awtomatichno si
> extractwa passphrazata (ne password)... i e po sigurno zastoto po mrevata
> ne se prashtat nikakwi paroli...
>
> E malko e igrachka da go pusnesh no inchae e super
> idi na Gentoo site i tam ima link kam ibm.com kadeto e opisan kak se
> konfigurira wsichko.. e izpusnali sa dwe tri nesta ama ako stignesh do tam
> obadi se ste ti kava kwo da naprawish
>

10x na vsicki za otgovorite.  Syadam da go mucha!

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Re: lug-bg: xine audioplugin

[George Danchev]

On 15 02 2003 14:34, Victor Senderov wrote:
> On Friday 14 February 2003 14:09, George Danchev wrote:
> 
>
> >
> > Ñ äâå äóìè èíôîðìàöèÿòà êîÿòî ñè äàë å íåäîñòàòú÷íà è íåïðåöèçíà çà äà
> > òè ñå äàäå òî÷åí îòãîâîð (òðÿáâàò âåðñèè íà ñîðñîâå íà ïðîãðàìàòà, àêî å
> > îò cvs êîé òàã è ò.í., çàãëàâíèòå ôàéëîâå êîèòî âêëþ÷âà è ò.í., ïîíÿêîãà
> > è êîìïèë+ëèíêåð âåðñèèòå ñà âàæíè).
>
> 
> Îê, ÿñíî.  Ïðîñòî íå èñêàõ äà çàòðóïâàì ãðóïàòà ñ ïðåìíîãî èíôî, çàùîòî ñúì
>  ïî÷òè ñèãóðåí, ÷å êîäà íå ìîæå äà ñå êîìïèëèðà, à íå ÷å ñúì îáúðêàë
> çàãëàâíè ôàéëîâå è ò.í.  Èìàì íÿêàêúâ ìèíèìàëåí îïèò ñ ïðîãðàìèðàíåòî è òèÿ
> íåùà ñà ìè ÿñíè, ìàêàð ÷å íå òâúðäÿ, ÷å ðàçáèðàì êàêâî "òî÷íî" ïðàâÿò
> ./configure, make install è äð. ïîäîáíè.

configure å øåë ñêðèïò ñúçäàäåí îò autoconf, èëè íàïèñàí ðú÷íî èëè è äîíàïèñàí 
ðú÷íî ... òîçè ñêðèïò îò ñâîÿ ñòðàíà ñúçäàâà íà target system Makefile's 
êîèòî ïðîãðàìàòà make ÷åòå è âå÷å âèêà êîìïèëàòîðè/ëèíêåðè ñ íåîáõîäèìèòå 
îïöèè... Òàêà ñå ïðèäîáèâà ãîëÿìà ïîðòàáèëíîñò ïðè êîíôèãóðèðàíåòî íà ñîðñà 
çà äàäåíàòà ñúñòåìà (å òîâà íå å äîñòàòú÷íî ðàçáèðà ñå äå, è ñàìèÿ ñîðñ 
òðÿáâà äà å íàïèñàí ïîðòàáèëíî)

> Ïðîáëåìúò  å, ÷å íÿìà íèêàêâà äîêóìåíòàöèÿ çà òîçè plugin.  Íå ìîãà äà ñå
> "çàêúëíà", ÷å èìà ãðåøêè â êîäà, íî ïðîñòî êîìïèëèðàíåòî å ìíîãî çàìîòàíî è
> çàòîâà ìè òðÿáâà êîìïèëèðàíà âåðñèÿ íà òîÿ plugin (ïî æåëàíèå ñòàòè÷íî
> ñâúðçàíà).  Àêî è òÿ íå òðúãíå: ëîøî íÿìà, ùå ÷àêàì xine äà ïóñíàò íîâàòà
> âåðñèÿ 1.0.0 áåç áúãîâå è ùå ñè ãëåäàì ôèëìè ñ íåÿ: äîòîãàâà winboze.
 
MPlayer áè òðÿáâàëî äà ñâúðøè ðàáîòà ... åòî òè åäèí Makefile äà get-íåø ëåñíî 
êàêâîòî òè òðÿáâà... Åëåìåíòàðåí å, ìîæå äà ñè ïîèãðàåø è ñúñ ñàìèÿ íåãî: 

wget http://danchev.fccf.net/files/mplayer/Makefile
make

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lug-bg: simulirane na connections

[martin petkov]

Kak moga da simuliram goljamo kolichestvo zaiavki kym
apache servera (primerno > 1000/sec), za da proveria
kakwo e natovarvaneto na mashinata v momenta.
Syotvetno kolko nai-mnogo zaiavki moje da prieme.

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Re: lug-bg: Sendmail vulnerability

[George Danchev]

On 15 02 2003 01:21, Georgi Chorbadzhiyski wrote:
> Konstantin Angelov wrote:
> > Just an FYI. Proverqvaite za patch po chesto ot tuk natatuka - ne se znae
> > tochno koga shte izleze oficialno tazi informacia na bql svqt
> >
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > [02:35pm] hey
> > [02:35pm] yes, I know
> > [02:35pm] and I've been sworn to not reveal anything until
> > either 1) it
> > leaks through back channels
> > [02:36pm] or 2) it gets released publicly...
> > [02:36pm] it's nasty.
> > [02:36pm] s/nasty/potentially/
> > [02:36pm] any idea when we'll see a patch?
> > [02:36pm] the patch is done
> > [02:36pm] but we can't release it until it's announced
> > [02:37pm] patch only to 8.12?
> > [02:37pm] how far back is sendmail affected?
> > [02:37pm] nope... 8.8, 8.9, 8.10, 8.11, 8.12
> > [02:37pm] this is gonna be ugly
> > [02:37pm] yes
> > [02:37pm] 
> > [02:37pm] "there are national security issues that need to be
> > addressed
> > before it's announced"
> > [02:38pm] you're kidding?
> > [02:38pm] the patch protects not only the MTA, but any
> > downstream MTAs
> > (which is nice)
> > [02:38pm] "whitehouse.gov needs to patch their servers"
> >
> > [/snip]

zna4i tova e mnogo dobre 4e se dade warning...

> Ili za po-lesno ne izpolzvaite tozi piece of crap, narechen za blagozvuchie
> "sendmail".

eh Georgi, pak gi reshavash nestata otgore otgore ... ste ti preveda malko 
examples s koito se samooprovergavash, ili po to4no v style "s tvojte kamyni 
po tvojta glava" 4e e po-lesno ;-)... 

Eto naprimer tuka 
http://www.mail-archive.com/lug-bg@linux-bulgaria.org/msg12573.html
stava vypros za bugs v drugi software-ta kato Apache, OpenSSL, OpenSSL, PHP, 
koito sa bili opraveni razbira se as soon as possible. i kakto sam 
kazvash "Updadeiti na softuer vinagi shte ima" ...
E po systiq na4in ste se update-ne i Sendmail-a i vsqko drugo software koeto 
trebe i se nalaga... Open Source pe4eli predimno s byrzinata i to4nostta pri 
reshavaneto na problemi, a problemi vsi4ki software-ta (nezavisimo pod kakva 
forma sa) mogat imat.

Neznam zasto i bob.slackware.com Sendmail gleam maj polzva ili sym se obyrkal 
nesto. Osven tova v PACKAGES.TXT na Slackware gledam ima _samo_ Sendmail s 
description "Eric Allman's mail transport agent. The _Unix System 
Administration Handbook_ calls sendmail 'The most complex and complete mail 
delivery system in common use...' "... Ta ti li se obyrkal nesto ili 
Slackware Team (ili The _Unix System Administration Handbook_) 
razprostranqwajki i prepory4vajki crappy software kakto kazwash ti ???... Sto 
ne gi obu4ish i tezi hora ;-)
(za leka spravka apt-get install mail-transport-agent, da vidish ko sti vyrne, 
muahahaha)

Sega ima mnogo dobri analozi kato postfix, exim, qmail..., no Sendmail 
prosto ne e za vseki. Ot druga strana tova 4e nqkoj ne polzva Sendmail, a 
nesto drugo, ne zna4i 4e ne go razbira... Taka 4e ne davaj akyl na tezi koito 
znaqt kak da go polzvat i ostavete tazi grizha na tqh ... Te obiknoveno sa vi 
mail hubs na vas ;-). Az nekazvam 4e polzvam Sendmail, glavno poradi tova 4e 
ne go razbiram, no ne davam akyl dali da se polzva i kak na tezi koito znaqt 
kak da go polzvat, a opredeleno razlika ima v tezi dve ponqtiq... Dosta hora 
se opitvat da se pravqt na veliki pokazvajki kolko razbirat kato opluvat 
slozhni Software-ta kato Sendmail, no vsystnost ne im e po silite dori i da 
oplu4avat, stoto neznaqt kakvo to4no da opluvat i izpadat v bezteglovnost...

mnogo leko i nebrezhno gi govorish nestata..., mnogo 
ti e lesno (kakto ti beshe kazano i ot drug;-)... Eto tozi ti comment pyk e 
shediovyr, imaj milost please;-) 
http://www.linux-bg.org/cgi-bin/y/index.pl?page=comment&id=devs&key=348385951&cmtkey=348385951_348394356#comment_info
"ne qbylki, ami qbylki", anglijski li ste se u4ime sega ili na 4uvstvo za 
humor ;-) ... maj ne otiva na hora koito teach-vat da proiznasqt podobni 
leki izkazvaniq ... dosta plitko idva taka, i za bazik ne stava ... ;-)

P.S. nadqvam se da ne bqh mnogo "bad boy" ;-) , snizhavam se ;-)

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RE: lug-bg: Sendmail vulnerability

[Peter An. Zyumbilev]

Abe ne che mnogo razbiram ama...
Polzvam sendmail za edinia server -> prokletiata e nasitina kato kosmicheki
korab- to ne sa li m4 processori to ne ili pravvene na hashove to ne sa li
restartii dosta chetene
varha na prostotia e che kato slojih popbeforesmrtp(.pl) vseki pat ako
pravia promeni i kompiliram s m4 triabva rachno v outputa da dobvaim edni
redove zasto ne i znam source a samo krainiia rezultat...da ne govorim pak
za udvolstvieto da podkzrzsh majordomo podtova...
usestam che skoro ste se preboria sas marzela si i ste se otarva ot tova
chudo
rpm -e sendmail ;-)
hi, postfix ;-)
 koito mai e s takava idea: KISS - Keep It Simply Simple :)

Peter An. Zyumbilev
Web Developer & Administrator
BIVOL BULGARIA
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tel.:+359 88 966940
web: http://www.bivol.net 



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of George Danchev
> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 7:30 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: lug-bg: Sendmail vulnerability
>
>
> On 15 02 2003 01:21, Georgi Chorbadzhiyski wrote:
> > Konstantin Angelov wrote:
> > > Just an FYI. Proverqvaite za patch po chesto ot tuk natatuka
> - ne se znae
> > > tochno koga shte izleze oficialno tazi informacia na bql svqt
> > >
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > [02:35pm] hey
> > > [02:35pm] yes, I know
> > > [02:35pm] and I've been sworn to not reveal anything until
> > > either 1) it
> > > leaks through back channels
> > > [02:36pm] or 2) it gets released publicly...
> > > [02:36pm] it's nasty.
> > > [02:36pm] s/nasty/potentially/
> > > [02:36pm] any idea when we'll see a patch?
> > > [02:36pm] the patch is done
> > > [02:36pm] but we can't release it until it's announced
> > > [02:37pm] patch only to 8.12?
> > > [02:37pm] how far back is sendmail affected?
> > > [02:37pm] nope... 8.8, 8.9, 8.10, 8.11, 8.12
> > > [02:37pm] this is gonna be ugly
> > > [02:37pm] yes
> > > [02:37pm] 
> > > [02:37pm] "there are national security issues that
> need to be
> > > addressed
> > > before it's announced"
> > > [02:38pm] you're kidding?
> > > [02:38pm] the patch protects not only the MTA, but any
> > > downstream MTAs
> > > (which is nice)
> > > [02:38pm] "whitehouse.gov needs to patch their servers"
> > >
> > > [/snip]
>
> zna4i tova e mnogo dobre 4e se dade warning...
>
> > Ili za po-lesno ne izpolzvaite tozi piece of crap, narechen za
> blagozvuchie
> > "sendmail".
>
> eh Georgi, pak gi reshavash nestata otgore otgore ... ste ti
> preveda malko
> examples s koito se samooprovergavash, ili po to4no v style "s
> tvojte kamyni
> po tvojta glava" 4e e po-lesno ;-)...
>
> Eto naprimer tuka
> http://www.mail-archive.com/lug-bg@linux-bulgaria.org/msg12573.html
> stava vypros za bugs v drugi software-ta kato Apache, OpenSSL,
> OpenSSL, PHP,
> koito sa bili opraveni razbira se as soon as possible. i kakto sam
> kazvash "Updadeiti na softuer vinagi shte ima" ...
> E po systiq na4in ste se update-ne i Sendmail-a i vsqko drugo
> software koeto
> trebe i se nalaga... Open Source pe4eli predimno s byrzinata i
> to4nostta pri
> reshavaneto na problemi, a problemi vsi4ki software-ta
> (nezavisimo pod kakva
> forma sa) mogat imat.
>
> Neznam zasto i bob.slackware.com Sendmail gleam maj polzva ili
> sym se obyrkal
> nesto. Osven tova v PACKAGES.TXT na Slackware gledam ima _samo_
> Sendmail s
> description "Eric Allman's mail transport agent. The _Unix System
> Administration Handbook_ calls sendmail 'The most complex and
> complete mail
> delivery system in common use...' "... Ta ti li se obyrkal nesto ili
> Slackware Team (ili The _Unix System Administration Handbook_)
> razprostranqwajki i prepory4vajki crappy software kakto kazwash
> ti ???... Sto
> ne gi obu4ish i tezi hora ;-)
> (za leka spravka apt-get install mail-transport-agent, da vidish
> ko sti vyrne,
> muahahaha)
>
> Sega ima mnogo dobri analozi kato postfix, exim, qmail..., no Sendmail
> prosto ne e za vseki. Ot druga strana tova 4e nqkoj ne polzva Sendmail, a
> nesto drugo, ne zna4i 4e ne go razbira... Taka 4e ne davaj akyl
> na tezi koito
> znaqt kak da go polzvat i ostavete tazi grizha na tqh ... Te
> obiknoveno sa vi
> mail hubs na vas ;-). Az nekazvam 4e polzvam Sendmail, glavno
> poradi tova 4e
> ne go razbiram, no ne davam akyl dali da se polzva i kak na tezi
> koito znaqt
> kak da go polzvat, a opredeleno razlika ima v tezi dve ponqtiq...
> Dosta hora
> se opitvat da se pravqt na veliki pokazvajki kolko razbirat kato opluvat
> slozhni Software-ta kato Sendmail, no vsystnost ne im e po silite
> dori i da
> oplu4avat, stoto neznaqt kakvo to4no da opluvat i izpadat v
> bezteglovnost...
>
> mnogo leko i nebrezhno gi govorish nestata..., mnogo
> ti e lesno (kakto ti beshe kazano i ot drug;-)... Eto tozi ti
> comment pyk e
> shediovyr, imaj milost please;-)
> http://www.linux-bg.org/cgi-bin/y/index.pl?page=comment&id=devs&ke
y=348385951&cmtk

Re: lug-bg: Sendmail vulnerability

[Teodor Georgiev]

- Original Message -
From: "Georgi Chorbadzhiyski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 1:21 AM
Subject: Re: lug-bg: Sendmail vulnerability


> Konstantin Angelov wrote:
> >
> > Just an FYI. Proverqvaite za patch po chesto ot tuk natatuka - ne se
znae
> > tochno koga shte izleze oficialno tazi informacia na bql svqt
> >
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > [02:35pm] hey
> > [02:35pm] yes, I know
> > [02:35pm] and I've been sworn to not reveal anything until
> > either 1) it
> > [02:37pm] 
> > [02:37pm] "there are national security issues that need to be
> > addressed
> > before it's announced"
> > [02:38pm] you're kidding?
> > [02:38pm] the patch protects not only the MTA, but any
> > downstream MTAs
> > (which is nice)
> > [02:38pm] "whitehouse.gov needs to patch their servers"
> >
> > [/snip]
>
> Ili za po-lesno ne izpolzvaite tozi piece of crap, narechen za
blagozvuchie
> "sendmail".
>

Georgi, ne si prav... i maika ti ne e prava... i cialata ti familia ne e
prava (kakto se kazvashe v edin vic).

1. Daite da vidim dali naistina e taka. Kato izleze exlpoita - shte govorim.
Inache remote exploit v Sendmail ne e imalo ot 8.8.5,  a tova e
blizo 4 godini.

2. V  Apache syshto imashe exploiti. v ssh imashe. v openssl imashe
Haide da gi narechem crap

3. Sendmail kato vseki softuer si ima predimstva i nedostatyci. A
predimstvoto i nedostatykyt sa kato krivite ogledala - vseki wizhda v tqh
razlichno neshto.
Prosto gi slagash na kantara i predcenqvash: ako ti haresva -
"kupuvash", ako ne - otminavash.

  Na men sendmail si mi vyrshi prekrasna rabota, i ot poveche ot 2 godini ne
me e lygal. Postfix syshto e dobyr. Qmail syshto.
  Polzvam Sendmail, zashtoto s nego sym sviknal. I nikoga ne tvyrdq, che e
po-dobyr ot Qmail ili Postfix.

Zashto triabva da zapochvame s tia driazgi?






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Re: lug-bg: Sendmail vulnerability

[Georgi Chorbadzhiyski]

George Danchev wrote:
> On 15 02 2003 01:21, Georgi Chorbadzhiyski wrote:

[..snip..]

Àäàø, èìàø òâúðäå ìíîãî âðåìå ÿâíî :) Åäâà óñïÿõ äà ïðî÷åòà
êàêâî ñè íàïèñàë, íàïðàâî íå ìîãà äà ñè ïðåäñòàâÿ êàê ñè
óñïÿë äà ãî íàïèøåø :) Ãðàôîìàí.

À sendmail-a ñïîðåä ìåí ñè å crap. Òîâà å åäíà ïðîãðàìà,
êîÿòî òîëêîâà ãîäèíè íå ìîãàò äà ÿ re-design-íàò òàêà ÷å
äà ñòàíå ñèãóðíà è äà íå ñå íàëàãà âñåêè ïúò õîðàòà äà
upgrate-âàò çàðàäè ïðîáëåìè ñúñ ñèãóðíîñòòà, ÷å åäèíñòâåíîòî
îïðåäåëåíèå êîåòî ìîãà äà äàì çà òàêàâà ïðîãðàìà å - CRAP.

Äà íå çàïî÷âàì ñ òîâà êîëêî å administrator friendly, íÿêîé
ïî æåëàíèå äà ìè ïîñî÷è ïðîãðàìà, êîÿòî çà äà ìîæå íîðìàëåí
÷îâåê äà ñå ñïðàâè ñ êîíôèãóðèðàíåòî è, àâòîðèòå äà ñà
èçìèëèëè îòäåëåí îïèñàòåëåí åçèê (m4) ?

sendmail è wu-ftpd (íå ñå ïîëçâà âå÷å òîëêîâà, ñëàâà áîãó)
ñà IMHO íàé-ëîøèòå íåùà ñ êîèòî ìîæå äà ñå ñáëúñêà ÷îâåê â
åäíà UNIX ñèñòåìà. Äà íå çàáðàâÿìå è bindíèùî ÷å ãî
ïîëçâàì :)

P.S. ×åñòèò ïðàçíèê íà âñè÷êè (íà ïàòåðèöè) áåç çíà÷åíèå êîé
 îò äâàòà ñòå ïðàçíóâàëè. Àç ëè÷íî ãè ïðàçíóâàõ è òðèòå :)

-- 
Georgi Chorbadzhiyski
http://georgi.unixsol.org/


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Re: lug-bg: simulirane na connections

[Teodor Georgiev]

- Original Message -
From: "martin petkov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 6:53 PM
Subject: lug-bg: simulirane na connections


> Kak moga da simuliram goljamo kolichestvo zaiavki kym
> apache servera (primerno > 1000/sec), za da proveria
> kakwo e natovarvaneto na mashinata v momenta.
> Syotvetno kolko nai-mnogo zaiavki moje da prieme.
>


znachi, az za cache serveri (squid i oops) sym polzval "Web polygraph".
Imashe i razni (drugoto dobro mislia che se kazvashe "Pyramid").
To shte ti pokazhe na kolko vryzki maximum v sekunda shte ti izdyrzhi
cache'a.
Mislq che bi vlqzlo v upotreba i za web serveri.


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Re: lug-bg: simulirane na connections

[George Danchev]

On 15 02 2003 20:23, Teodor Georgiev wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "martin petkov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 6:53 PM
> Subject: lug-bg: simulirane na connections
>
> > Kak moga da simuliram goljamo kolichestvo zaiavki kym
> > apache servera (primerno > 1000/sec), za da proveria
> > kakwo e natovarvaneto na mashinata v momenta.
> > Syotvetno kolko nai-mnogo zaiavki moje da prieme.
>
> znachi, az za cache serveri (squid i oops) sym polzval "Web polygraph".
> Imashe i razni (drugoto dobro mislia che se kazvashe "Pyramid").
> To shte ti pokazhe na kolko vryzki maximum v sekunda shte ti izdyrzhi
> cache'a.
> Mislq che bi vlqzlo v upotreba i za web serveri.

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lug-bg: niakoi ste iska li da mi zapishe diskovete na Debian 3.0r1

[Alexander p. Panov]

niakoi ste iska li da mi zapishe diskovete na Debian 3.0r1


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Re: lug-bg: simulirane na connections

[sheib]

man ab


On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, martin petkov wrote:

> Kak moga da simuliram goljamo kolichestvo zaiavki kym
> apache servera (primerno > 1000/sec), za da proveria
> kakwo e natovarvaneto na mashinata v momenta.
> Syotvetno kolko nai-mnogo zaiavki moje da prieme.
>
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Re: lug-bg: Sendmail vulnerability

[Teodor Georgiev]

- Original Message -
From: "Peter An. Zyumbilev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 8:04 PM
Subject: RE: lug-bg: Sendmail vulnerability


> Abe ne che mnogo razbiram ama...
> Polzvam sendmail za edinia server -> prokletiata e nasitina kato
kosmicheki
> korab- to ne sa li m4 processori to ne ili pravvene na hashove to ne sa li
> restartii dosta chetene
> varha na prostotia e che kato slojih popbeforesmrtp(.pl) vseki pat ako
> pravia promeni i kompiliram s m4 triabva rachno v outputa da dobvaim edni
> redove zasto ne i znam source a samo krainiia rezultat...da ne govorim pak
> za udvolstvieto da podkzrzsh majordomo podtova...
> usestam che skoro ste se preboria sas marzela si i ste se otarva ot tova
> chudo
> rpm -e sendmail ;-)
> hi, postfix ;-)
>  koito mai e s takava idea: KISS - Keep It Simply Simple :)

Ami az polzval Sendmail + Cyrus SASL (za SMTP avtentikacia, nikvi
pop3beforesmtp) + Cyrus IMAP (za virtualni domaini).
i nikvi zapisi v etc/passwd za mail userite. S kvotichki, s razni
blaginki...

taka che... na kriv *** i kosmite mu prechat :)))

A na men instalaciata na Sendmail mi otnema 20min. Pylnata. s Cyrus'a i s
antivirusnata.



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RE: lug-bg: niakoi ste iska li da mi zapishe diskovete na Debian 3.0r1

[Peter An. Zyumbilev]

Ako e za sofia no problem ;-)

Peter An. Zyumbilev
Web Developer & Administrator
BIVOL BULGARIA
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
tel.:+359 88 966940
web: http://www.bivol.net  
 


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alexander p. Panov
> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 9:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: lug-bg: niakoi ste iska li da mi zapishe diskovete na 
> Debian 3.0r1
> 
> 
> niakoi ste iska li da mi zapishe diskovete na Debian 3.0r1
> 
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RE: lug-bg: Sendmail vulnerability

[Peter An. Zyumbilev]

Da te pusna da mi instalnesh edin cyrus na RH 7.2 che az niamam talant ?:)
ia RPM ste polzvam deto e s sasl2, ia berkelydb ste mi se staro, ia ste
izteglei tar.gz source BEZ configure script...komplex sam dobil...
na edn druga debian mashina pisah samo "apt-get install cyrus-*" vzemam edna
morena i i malko kafe i sled malko sma ready...
Tai che ako mojesh da mi napravish demo za 20 min na na RH 7.2 ste mi e
ujasno liubopitno, seriozno...
Da ne se ukaje che ima znachenie kakvo ima pod kosmite ;)
Pozdravi,
BIVOL
Peter An. Zyumbilev
Web Developer & Administrator
BIVOL BULGARIA
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
tel.:+359 88 966940
web: http://www.bivol.net 



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Teodor Georgiev
> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 10:15 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: lug-bg: Sendmail vulnerability
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Peter An. Zyumbilev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 8:04 PM
> Subject: RE: lug-bg: Sendmail vulnerability
>
>
> > Abe ne che mnogo razbiram ama...
> > Polzvam sendmail za edinia server -> prokletiata e nasitina kato
> kosmicheki
> > korab- to ne sa li m4 processori to ne ili pravvene na hashove
> to ne sa li
> > restartii dosta chetene
> > varha na prostotia e che kato slojih popbeforesmrtp(.pl) vseki pat ako
> > pravia promeni i kompiliram s m4 triabva rachno v outputa da
> dobvaim edni
> > redove zasto ne i znam source a samo krainiia rezultat...da ne
> govorim pak
> > za udvolstvieto da podkzrzsh majordomo podtova...
> > usestam che skoro ste se preboria sas marzela si i ste se otarva ot tova
> > chudo
> > rpm -e sendmail ;-)
> > hi, postfix ;-)
> >  koito mai e s takava idea: KISS - Keep It Simply Simple :)
>
> Ami az polzval Sendmail + Cyrus SASL (za SMTP avtentikacia, nikvi
> pop3beforesmtp) + Cyrus IMAP (za virtualni domaini).
> i nikvi zapisi v etc/passwd za mail userite. S kvotichki, s razni
> blaginki...
>
> taka che... na kriv *** i kosmite mu prechat :)))
>
> A na men instalaciata na Sendmail mi otnema 20min. Pylnata. s Cyrus'a i s
> antivirusnata.
>
>
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RE: lug-bg: Sendmail vulnerability

[Konstantin Angelov]

rm -rf RH 7.2
apt-get install Debian 3.0 

:-)))


Íà ñá, 2003-02-15 â 15:50, Peter An. Zyumbilev çàïèñà:
> Da te pusna da mi instalnesh edin cyrus na RH 7.2 che az niamam talant ?:)
> ia RPM ste polzvam deto e s sasl2, ia berkelydb ste mi se staro, ia ste
> izteglei tar.gz source BEZ configure script...komplex sam dobil...
> na edn druga debian mashina pisah samo "apt-get install cyrus-*" vzemam edna
> morena i i malko kafe i sled malko sma ready...
> Tai che ako mojesh da mi napravish demo za 20 min na na RH 7.2 ste mi e
> ujasno liubopitno, seriozno...
> Da ne se ukaje che ima znachenie kakvo ima pod kosmite ;)
> Pozdravi,
> BIVOL
> Peter An. Zyumbilev
> Web Developer & Administrator
> BIVOL BULGARIA
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> tel.:+359 88 966940
> web: http://www.bivol.net 
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Teodor Georgiev
> > Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 10:15 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: lug-bg: Sendmail vulnerability
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Peter An. Zyumbilev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 8:04 PM
> > Subject: RE: lug-bg: Sendmail vulnerability
> >
> >
> > > Abe ne che mnogo razbiram ama...
> > > Polzvam sendmail za edinia server -> prokletiata e nasitina kato
> > kosmicheki
> > > korab- to ne sa li m4 processori to ne ili pravvene na hashove
> > to ne sa li
> > > restartii dosta chetene
> > > varha na prostotia e che kato slojih popbeforesmrtp(.pl) vseki pat ako
> > > pravia promeni i kompiliram s m4 triabva rachno v outputa da
> > dobvaim edni
> > > redove zasto ne i znam source a samo krainiia rezultat...da ne
> > govorim pak
> > > za udvolstvieto da podkzrzsh majordomo podtova...
> > > usestam che skoro ste se preboria sas marzela si i ste se otarva ot tova
> > > chudo
> > > rpm -e sendmail ;-)
> > > hi, postfix ;-)
> > >  koito mai e s takava idea: KISS - Keep It Simply Simple :)
> >
> > Ami az polzval Sendmail + Cyrus SASL (za SMTP avtentikacia, nikvi
> > pop3beforesmtp) + Cyrus IMAP (za virtualni domaini).
> > i nikvi zapisi v etc/passwd za mail userite. S kvotichki, s razni
> > blaginki...
> >
> > taka che... na kriv *** i kosmite mu prechat :)))
> >
> > A na men instalaciata na Sendmail mi otnema 20min. Pylnata. s Cyrus'a i s
> > antivirusnata.
> >
> >
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Re: lug-bg: Sendmail vulnerability

[Konstantin Angelov]

Fakta che takiva vajni i visokopostaveni institucii kato The White House
polzvat sendmail govori sam za sebe si. Ne si znaqt parite i poradi tazi
prichina mnogo se sumnqvam da sa izbrali nekadurni sysadmins, oshte
po-malko izborat "semdmail" da e bil sluchaen.


Íà ñá, 2003-02-15 â 13:17, Teodor Georgiev çàïèñà:
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Georgi Chorbadzhiyski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 1:21 AM
> Subject: Re: lug-bg: Sendmail vulnerability
> 
> 
> > Konstantin Angelov wrote:
> > >
> > > Just an FYI. Proverqvaite za patch po chesto ot tuk natatuka - ne se
> znae
> > > tochno koga shte izleze oficialno tazi informacia na bql svqt
> > >
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > [02:35pm] hey
> > > [02:35pm] yes, I know
> > > [02:35pm] and I've been sworn to not reveal anything until
> > > either 1) it
> > > [02:37pm] 
> > > [02:37pm] "there are national security issues that need to be
> > > addressed
> > > before it's announced"
> > > [02:38pm] you're kidding?
> > > [02:38pm] the patch protects not only the MTA, but any
> > > downstream MTAs
> > > (which is nice)
> > > [02:38pm] "whitehouse.gov needs to patch their servers"
> > >
> > > [/snip]
> >
> > Ili za po-lesno ne izpolzvaite tozi piece of crap, narechen za
> blagozvuchie
> > "sendmail".
> >
> 
> Georgi, ne si prav... i maika ti ne e prava... i cialata ti familia ne e
> prava (kakto se kazvashe v edin vic).
> 
> 1. Daite da vidim dali naistina e taka. Kato izleze exlpoita - shte govorim.
> Inache remote exploit v Sendmail ne e imalo ot 8.8.5,  a tova e
> blizo 4 godini.
> 
> 2. V  Apache syshto imashe exploiti. v ssh imashe. v openssl imashe
> Haide da gi narechem crap
> 
> 3. Sendmail kato vseki softuer si ima predimstva i nedostatyci. A
> predimstvoto i nedostatykyt sa kato krivite ogledala - vseki wizhda v tqh
> razlichno neshto.
> Prosto gi slagash na kantara i predcenqvash: ako ti haresva -
> "kupuvash", ako ne - otminavash.
> 
>   Na men sendmail si mi vyrshi prekrasna rabota, i ot poveche ot 2 godini ne
> me e lygal. Postfix syshto e dobyr. Qmail syshto.
>   Polzvam Sendmail, zashtoto s nego sym sviknal. I nikoga ne tvyrdq, che e
> po-dobyr ot Qmail ili Postfix.
> 
> Zashto triabva da zapochvame s tia driazgi?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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lug-bg: Internet koshmar

[Ïëàìåí]

Zdrawejte na wsichki
Polzwam dial-up i ot wchera smenih dostawchika. Prawia wrazka s nego no ne moga da 
pogledna nikakwi stranici oswen moiata ot server-a koito sam pusnal

Edwam mi dadoha DNS-te, no problema ne se reshi

Re: lug-bg: Span Filter

[Ted Zlatanov]

On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Njakoj probval li e BogoFilter za span, zvuchi mnogo obeditelno, no
> mi e ljubopitno dali ste raboti.
> http://linux.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/synd/2003/01/30/bogofilter.html

Да.  Bogofilter е добър за binary classification - тоест
spam/non-spam.  Също ifile е добър, за multiway classification -
определяне на класификацията според съдържанието; например "spam",
"linux", "futbol" и т.н.

SpamAssassin е също много добър филтър.  Виж документацията, всеки от
тях има различни алгоритми за класификация.

Тео

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Re: lug-bg: Internet koshmar

[George Danchev]

On 16 02 2003 02:02, Ïëàìåí wrote:
> Zdrawejte na wsichki
> Polzwam dial-up i ot wchera smenih dostawchika. Prawia wrazka s nego no ne
> moga da pogledna nikakwi stranici oswen moiata ot server-a koito sam pusnal
>
> Edwam mi dadoha DNS-te, no problema ne se reshi

1) ïúðâî âèæ äàëè ìîæåø äà ping 64.58.76.98
2) âèæ äàëè /etc/nsswitch.conf èçãëåæäà íåùî êàòî:
hosts: files dns (èëè dns files)
networks: files
3) âèæ äàëè ïðàâèë ñè ïîñòàâèë ISP's DNS IP's â /etc/resolv.conf
nameserver 1.2.3.4
nameserver 5.6.7.8
è ò.í àêî òðÿáâà è íÿêîé root server ñëîæè ;-)
nameserver 192.5.5.241

man hosts, host.conf, nsswitch.conf, resolv.conf
-- 
Greets, 
fr33zb1 


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