Re: lug-bg: pc server 320

2003-11-09 Thread George Danchev
On Sunday 09 November 2003 22:18, Peter Zyumbilev wrote:
> > Sled tova ste ti poiska root diska i kato mu go dadesh trqbva da kazhe:
> > RAMDISK: Compressed Image found ad block0
> > . i t.n.
>
> Ne moga da stgaan do tova...
> pochva da chete tochno root floppyto i umira..samo flopyto sveti..

posledno ;-) kakvo to4no zna4i umira ne e qsno? prosto nikakvi messages, a 
floppy-to sveti, ami machinata ti e bavna i dokato se dekompresne image-to v 
ram-a iska vreme (ctrl-alt-del reboot-va li ?)... Da ne bi da si na vtoro 
floppy vyrzan, togava kogato boot-vash rescue mu daj na boot: ramdisk1 

ili:
boot: ramdisk1 vga=normal load_ramdisk=1 prompt_ramdisk=1 ramdisk_size=16384 
root=/dev/fd1 disksize=1.44 flavor=bf2.4 

za pyrvo floppy:
boot: ramdisk0 vga=normal load_ramdisk=1 prompt_ramdisk=1 ramdisk_size=16384 
root=/dev/fd0 disksize=1.44 flavor=bf2.4 

ne mozhe prosto da umirat vsi4ki vidove floppy images, ima nesto gnilo 
tuka ;-), pone ste obadi za nqkyf I/O error, sma4kani disketi, koi to4no 
floppy images si raw-nal na disketi i kak to4no? potato images kakvo kazvat, 
KNOPPIX/boot.img namira li si CDROM-a ?

iz4erpah se otkym idei ... over ;-) 

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Re: lug-bg: pc server 320

2003-11-09 Thread Peter Zyumbilev
> Sled tova ste ti poiska root diska i kato mu go dadesh trqbva da kazhe:
> RAMDISK: Compressed Image found ad block0
> . i t.n.

Ne moga da stgaan do tova...
pochva da chete tochno root floppyto i umira..samo flopyto sveti..

BIVOL


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Re: lug-bg: pc server 320

2003-11-09 Thread George Danchev
On Sunday 09 November 2003 18:49, Peter Zyumbilev wrote:
> Znachi kato bios sam na posledna versia 29A.. Tia textove sa za potato -
> siguren sam che potat ste se instalne bex problem za razlika ot woody.

vazhnoto e kernel-a. boot floppies na potato e samo s 2.2, dokato woody po 
default e 2.2, no ima i 2.4 (bf2.4), sega ne pomnq to4nite versions, 
poseldnoto e 2.4.18 mislq. Sto ne installnesh potato i posle da upgrade do 
kydeto iskash, vkl. i kernel-a... kato sedne na hdd-to nqma nuzhda ot 
ramdisk.

> Inache mashinat mi umira(pri debian) kogato kazv che ste loadva nesto v RAM
> diska..Az si mislih che stava vapros che prosto ste go zarejda v RAMA..

to4no v RAM-a se zarezhda edna taka da se kazhe fake root filesystem, sled 
koeto kato se loadnat neobhodimite modules ot tam se change-va kym istinska 
root filesystem.

Nisto ne kazvash kakvo to4no stava i kakvi syobsteniq izdava kernel-a.
Hajde ste hvyrlime bob za posledno, t.e da pogadaeme na slqpo ;-) za 
debisnkite rescue i root floppies, ste vzema da se dosetq 4e si vidql s F3 
available boot methods (i vyobste s F1-F10)... za RAM disk na boot: prompta 
pishesh:

boot: ramdisk0 

Sled tova ste ti poiska root diska i kato mu go dadesh trqbva da kazhe:
RAMDISK: Compressed Image found ad block0
. i t.n.

Kyde se dyni to4no pri tebe i kakvo izpluva kernel-a vyobste ne kazvash, s 
bf2.4 images li opitvash ili ne ? Proveri si RAM-a s memtest86 ako trqbva.

> Na redhat za upgarde na kerenela na 72. pishe..
>
> If you are using a SCSI controller, you need an initial RAM disk. The
> purpose of the initial RAM disk is to allow a modular kernel to have access
> to modules that it might need to boot from before the kernel has access to
> the device where the modules normally reside.
>
> The initial RAM disk is created by using the mkinitrd command. However, the
> Red Hat RPM package performs this step for you. To verify that it was
> created, use the command ls -l /boot. You should see the file
> initrd-2.4.7-3.img (the version should match the version of the kernel you
> just installed).

tova razbira se e to4no taka.

> Ineresno kakv im e probelma na distrota bash s toia RAM disk...

ti ste kazhesh ;-) az ste podhvana kym Bansko za nqkoi i drug den :P

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Re: lug-bg: pc server 320

2003-11-09 Thread Peter Zyumbilev
Znachi kato bios sam na posledna versia 29A.. Tia textove sa za potato -
siguren sam che potat ste se instalne bex problem za razlika ot woody.
Inache mashinat mi umira(pri debian) kogato kazv che ste loadva nesto v RAM
diska..Az si mislih che stava vapros che prosto ste go zarejda v RAMA..
Na redhat za upgarde na kerenela na 72. pishe..

If you are using a SCSI controller, you need an initial RAM disk. The
purpose of the initial RAM disk is to allow a modular kernel to have access
to modules that it might need to boot from before the kernel has access to
the device where the modules normally reside.

The initial RAM disk is created by using the mkinitrd command. However, the
Red Hat RPM package performs this step for you. To verify that it was
created, use the command ls -l /boot. You should see the file
initrd-2.4.7-3.img (the version should match the version of the kernel you
just installed).



Ineresno kakv im e probelma na distrota bash s toia RAM disk...

Peter


- Original Message - 
From: "George Danchev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: lug-bg: pc server 320


> On Sunday 09 November 2003 09:18, George Danchev wrote:
> > On Saturday 08 November 2003 18:06, Peter Zyumbilev wrote:
> > > Zdraveite,
> > > Opitvam se da preinstaliram edna mashina deto varvi na neia redhat
7.2.
> > > Mashinat e IBM pc server 320.
> > > Tova chudo e sas scsi diskove i ne moje da bootva ot scdrom
> >
> > na site-a na IBM bi trqbvalo da ima po-nov bios kojto da flashnesh s
> > dosovska programka... Veroqtno e predvideno i boot ot cd, no ne sym
> > siguren, de.
>
> po-to4no, eto kak e preboren buggy bios-a, podkaran e potato:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2000/debian-boot-28/msg00440.html
> (url may be wrapped)
>
> oba4e linka kym ibm e:
> http://www-3.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=DDSE-3NQNZ2
> (url may be wrapped)
>
> t.e.:
> ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/pc/pccbbs/pc_servers/33l3917.exe
> (url may be wrapped)
>
> > e qvno trqbva da boot-vash ot disketi nqkoq distro. A zasto zabiva
> > sistemata ne e qsno, nqkoj kerneli se shashkat stoto machinata ne e
stoka,
> > biosa sigurno podava buggy calls i t.n.. Ta pyrvo opitaj kato boot-vash
ot
> > floppy disk dali mozhe da podadesh "nomce" i/ili "noapic" boot option,
da
> > ne pravi 'machine check exception' na hardwareto, 4e qvno e zle ;-)
>
> --cut--
>
> predi da preminesh kym bios flash... ponezhe imash Micro Channel
Architecture
> (MCA) i veroqtno kontrolera e boza, opitaj i nqkoj drugi boot options
kato:
> nomca (tova e razli4no ot nomce i zabranqva MCA bus-a, imash PCI oba4e;-)
;
> mca-pentium apm=off pci=nobios ... zadavat se bez comas, edno sled
> drugo...  ... Ako ne pomogne mozhe da si poizgraesh s tvoj custom kernel
> image. Napr. smenqsh kernel image na ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/
> stable/main/disks-i386/3.0.23-2002-05-21/images-1.44/bf2.4/rescue.bin
(url
> may be wrapped):
>
> mount -o loop rescue.bin /floppy
> 4etesh /floppy/readme.txt i build nqkyde edin custom bzImage, mozhe da
> vklu4ish i scsi controllers vytre, a da izhvyrlish drugo, vnimavaj za
size-
> oba4e, 4e da se hvane na diketa, see .config-a
> rm /floppy/linux.bin
> cp bzImage /floppy/linux.bin
> cd /floppy
> ./rdev.sh
> cd /
> umount /floppy
>
> v root.bin tova e rootfs i ste se posika ot rescue.bin ... sledvat nqkolko
> driver-*.bin za mount po zhelanie za drivers, e.g. modules...  Ako tov ane
> pomogne flash bios-a i tolko ... a tova 4e hardware-to e krivo i ne mozhe
da
> se zaobikoli, a OSi trygvat otgore da ne te pritesnqva ne e mnogo safe
de...
> ama karaj.
>
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Re: lug-bg: pc server 320

2003-11-09 Thread George Danchev
On Sunday 09 November 2003 09:18, George Danchev wrote:
> On Saturday 08 November 2003 18:06, Peter Zyumbilev wrote:
> > Zdraveite,
> > Opitvam se da preinstaliram edna mashina deto varvi na neia redhat 7.2.
> > Mashinat e IBM pc server 320.
> > Tova chudo e sas scsi diskove i ne moje da bootva ot scdrom
>
> na site-a na IBM bi trqbvalo da ima po-nov bios kojto da flashnesh s
> dosovska programka... Veroqtno e predvideno i boot ot cd, no ne sym
> siguren, de.

po-to4no, eto kak e preboren buggy bios-a, podkaran e potato:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2000/debian-boot-28/msg00440.html
(url may be wrapped)

oba4e linka kym ibm e:
http://www-3.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=DDSE-3NQNZ2
(url may be wrapped)

t.e.:
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/pc/pccbbs/pc_servers/33l3917.exe
(url may be wrapped)

> e qvno trqbva da boot-vash ot disketi nqkoq distro. A zasto zabiva
> sistemata ne e qsno, nqkoj kerneli se shashkat stoto machinata ne e stoka,
> biosa sigurno podava buggy calls i t.n.. Ta pyrvo opitaj kato boot-vash ot
> floppy disk dali mozhe da podadesh "nomce" i/ili "noapic" boot option, da
> ne pravi 'machine check exception' na hardwareto, 4e qvno e zle ;-)

--cut--

predi da preminesh kym bios flash... ponezhe imash Micro Channel Architecture 
(MCA) i veroqtno kontrolera e boza, opitaj i nqkoj drugi boot options kato:
nomca (tova e razli4no ot nomce i zabranqva MCA bus-a, imash PCI oba4e;-) ; 
mca-pentium apm=off pci=nobios ... zadavat se bez comas, edno sled 
drugo...  ... Ako ne pomogne mozhe da si poizgraesh s tvoj custom kernel 
image. Napr. smenqsh kernel image na ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/
stable/main/disks-i386/3.0.23-2002-05-21/images-1.44/bf2.4/rescue.bin   (url 
may be wrapped):

mount -o loop rescue.bin /floppy
4etesh /floppy/readme.txt i build nqkyde edin custom bzImage, mozhe da 
vklu4ish i scsi controllers vytre, a da izhvyrlish drugo, vnimavaj za size- 
oba4e, 4e da se hvane na diketa, see .config-a
rm /floppy/linux.bin
cp bzImage /floppy/linux.bin
cd /floppy
./rdev.sh
cd /
umount /floppy

v root.bin tova e rootfs i ste se posika ot rescue.bin ... sledvat nqkolko 
driver-*.bin za mount po zhelanie za drivers, e.g. modules...  Ako tov ane 
pomogne flash bios-a i tolko ... a tova 4e hardware-to e krivo i ne mozhe da 
se zaobikoli, a OSi trygvat otgore da ne te pritesnqva ne e mnogo safe de... 
ama karaj. 

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Re: lug-bg: pc server 320

2003-11-09 Thread George Danchev
On Saturday 08 November 2003 18:06, Peter Zyumbilev wrote:
> Zdraveite,
> Opitvam se da preinstaliram edna mashina deto varvi na neia redhat 7.2.
> Mashinat e IBM pc server 320.
> Tova chudo e sas scsi diskove i ne moje da bootva ot scdrom

na site-a na IBM bi trqbvalo da ima po-nov bios kojto da flashnesh s dosovska 
programka... Veroqtno e predvideno i boot ot cd, no ne sym siguren, de.

> Redha 7.2 (!!) si raboti i instalira na neia bez problemi. Nikoia druga OS
> ne ste -Redhat 7.3 i po nagore
> -Suse  8.X
> -Debian 3
> - Freebsd ne iskam stoto tazi OS ima niakoi ogranicheniav networkinga :) No
> i tam moje za freebsd po malko ot 4.7
>
> Ta obnstoto ,mejdu vsichkite e che kato im podam diska s driveri floppy
> pochva da sveti i sistemata zaspiva. Tozi problem go niama pri RedHat 7.2
> stoto ne e nujno 2-ro floppy  -  parvaia disk si ima diriveri... Mai Vasko
> Tomanov imashe takava mashina..

e qvno trqbva da boot-vash ot disketi nqkoq distro. A zasto zabiva sistemata 
ne e qsno, nqkoj kerneli se shashkat stoto machinata ne e stoka, biosa 
sigurno podava buggy calls i t.n.. Ta pyrvo opitaj kato boot-vash ot floppy 
disk dali mozhe da podadesh "nomce" i/ili "noapic" boot option, da ne pravi 
'machine check exception' na hardwareto, 4e qvno e zle ;-) 

> Eto kakvi moduli polzva segashnia RedHat..
>
> # lsmod
> Module  Size  Used by
> nfsd   80032   8  (autoclean)
> lockd  61856   1  (autoclean) [nfsd]
> sunrpc 87824   1  (autoclean) [nfsd lockd]
> autofs 14212   0  (autoclean) (unused)
> 8139too16640   2
> ipchains   48264   0
> ext3   67664   2
> jbd43584   2  [ext3]
> aic7xxx   111728   3
> sd_mod 11616   3
> scsi_mod   97232   2  [aic7xxx sd_mod]

zapomni si scsi controlera i modules, 4e sled tova ste mu podavash disketa s 
drivers i ste izbirash ot tam. Drugo za koeto se sestam, ama neznam dali ste 
mine: ako imash knoppix pod ryka, montirash cd-to na nqkoq druga linux 
machina i v KNOPPIX/ tyrsish boot.img, raw-vash go na disketa i q slagash neq 
i CD-to na IBM-a, sled tova boot-vash ot floppy i da vidim dali ste si nameri 
cdroma. Ako si4ko e OK, knx-hdinstall ili knoppix-installer v mode debian ili 
mode knoppix i tovarish na hdd-to. Za boot parametrite, mozhe da vidish kak 
sa v knoppix boot.img. Praish taka: mount /cdrom ; mount -oloop /path/to/
cdrom/KNOPPIX/boot.img /dir ; cd /dir ; gledash syslinux.cfg, ima append-nata 
'noapic' boot option, koqto se podava na kernel-a, ako trqbva copiraj tozi 
image na hdd i nesto promeni i posle raw na disketa.  
Drug variant e da prehvyrlish hdd-to na druga machina i tam da install i posle 
da go vyrnesh obratno, mozhe da se nalozhi da boot ot disketa da poopravish 
boot loader-a.

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Re: lug-bg: pc server 320

2003-11-08 Thread Peter Zyumbilev
> moga da te nasocha kym neshto, koeto ne sym probval, no bi trqbvalo da
raboti.
> na http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/ ima boot manager, s kojto eventualno shte
> bootnesh ot CD.
Niama da stane za men - moeto scd e katoSCSI 6 pri men a tova e za IDE :(
Booting from CD-ROM
Smart BootManager supports booting from almost all kinds of IDE ATAPI
CD-ROMs, including PCMCIA CD-ROMs. You can let the BIOS boot from C: only
and assign a password for it, then you can boot from CD-ROM with Smart
BootManager. If you have a laptop with a special PCMCIA CD-ROM which has no
support for booting in the BIOS, Smart BootManager can help you boot from
it.

Peter Zyumbilev

Executive Manager
BIVOL BULGARIA
- Original Message - 
From: "Viktor Vasilev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: lug-bg: pc server 320


> On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 06:06:55PM +0200, Peter Zyumbilev wrote:
> > Zdraveite,
> > Opitvam se da preinstaliram edna mashina deto varvi na neia redhat 7.2.
> > Mashinat e IBM pc server 320.
> > Tova chudo e sas scsi diskove i ne moje da bootva ot scdrom
>
> moga da te nasocha kym neshto, koeto ne sym probval, no bi trqbvalo da
raboti.
> na http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/ ima boot manager, s kojto eventualno shte
> bootnesh ot CD. Slackware dostavq gotov floppy image vyv
rootdisks/sbootmgr.dsk.
> malka izvadka ot README:
> sbootmgr.dsk  This nifty little tool allows selecting various devices to
boot
>   from a menu, and even allows booting a CD-ROM in machines
where
>   the BIOS doesn't support it (or it's supposed to support it,
but
>   it just doesn't work).  If you have trouble booting the
>   Slackware CD-ROM, you might try writing this image to a
floppy,
>   booting it, and then selecting your CD-ROM drive as the boot
>   device.
>
> [cut]
> >
> > # lsmod
> > Module  Size  Used by
> > nfsd   80032   8  (autoclean)
> > lockd  61856   1  (autoclean) [nfsd]
> > sunrpc 87824   1  (autoclean) [nfsd lockd]
> > autofs 14212   0  (autoclean) (unused)
> > 8139too16640   2
> > ipchains   48264   0
> > ext3   67664   2
> > jbd43584   2  [ext3]
> > aic7xxx   111728   3
> > sd_mod 11616   3
> > scsi_mod   97232   2  [aic7xxx sd_mod]
> > Ako imate ideia za OS ili kak da izlazha po golemite distribucii da
trganat na nego molia mi kajete :):)
>
> sys chetene na HOWTOs bi mogyl da spretnesh minimalna boot/root disketa
samo sys
> scsi support i driver za adaptec contrllera. zavisi dali imash vremeto i
dali si
> zaslujava :) verno imashe vremena, kogata distrotata pobiraha i kernel i
root image
> na edna disketa.. otkakto ima vyzmojnost da se bootva ot CD, na nikoj ne
mu
> se zanimava s lesno-chupliva mediq kato floppy disk.
>
> pozdravi,
>
> Viktor
>

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Re: lug-bg: pc server 320

2003-11-08 Thread Viktor Vasilev
On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 06:06:55PM +0200, Peter Zyumbilev wrote:
> Zdraveite,
> Opitvam se da preinstaliram edna mashina deto varvi na neia redhat 7.2.
> Mashinat e IBM pc server 320.
> Tova chudo e sas scsi diskove i ne moje da bootva ot scdrom

moga da te nasocha kym neshto, koeto ne sym probval, no bi trqbvalo da raboti.
na http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/ ima boot manager, s kojto eventualno shte  
bootnesh ot CD. Slackware dostavq gotov floppy image vyv rootdisks/sbootmgr.dsk.
malka izvadka ot README:
sbootmgr.dsk  This nifty little tool allows selecting various devices to boot
  from a menu, and even allows booting a CD-ROM in machines where
  the BIOS doesn't support it (or it's supposed to support it, but
  it just doesn't work).  If you have trouble booting the
  Slackware CD-ROM, you might try writing this image to a floppy,
  booting it, and then selecting your CD-ROM drive as the boot
  device.

[cut]
> 
> # lsmod
> Module  Size  Used by
> nfsd   80032   8  (autoclean)
> lockd  61856   1  (autoclean) [nfsd]
> sunrpc 87824   1  (autoclean) [nfsd lockd]
> autofs 14212   0  (autoclean) (unused)
> 8139too16640   2
> ipchains   48264   0
> ext3   67664   2
> jbd43584   2  [ext3]
> aic7xxx   111728   3
> sd_mod 11616   3
> scsi_mod   97232   2  [aic7xxx sd_mod]
> Ako imate ideia za OS ili kak da izlazha po golemite distribucii da trganat na nego 
> molia mi kajete :):)

sys chetene na HOWTOs bi mogyl da spretnesh minimalna boot/root disketa samo sys 
scsi support i driver za adaptec contrllera. zavisi dali imash vremeto i dali si 
zaslujava :) verno imashe vremena, kogata distrotata pobiraha i kernel i root image 
na edna disketa.. otkakto ima vyzmojnost da se bootva ot CD, na nikoj ne mu
se zanimava s lesno-chupliva mediq kato floppy disk.  

pozdravi,

Viktor

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lug-bg: pc server 320

2003-11-08 Thread Peter Zyumbilev



Zdraveite,
Opitvam se da preinstaliram edna 
mashina deto varvi na neia redhat 7.2.
Mashinat e IBM pc server 
320.
Tova chudo e sas scsi diskove i ne 
moje da bootva ot scdrom
 
Redha 7.2 (!!) si raboti i 
instalira na neia bez problemi. Nikoia druga OS ne ste
-Redhat 7.3 i po 
nagore
-Suse  8.X
-Debian 3
- Freebsd ne iskam stoto tazi OS 
ima niakoi ogranicheniav networkinga :) No i tam moje za freebsd po malko ot 
4.7
 
Ta obnstoto ,mejdu vsichkite e che 
kato im podam diska s driveri floppy pochva da sveti i sistemata 
zaspiva.
Tozi problem go niama pri RedHat 
7.2 stoto ne e nujno 2-ro floppy  -  parvaia disk si ima 
diriveri...
Mai Vasko Tomanov imashe takava 
mashina..
Eto kakvi moduli polzva segashnia 
RedHat..
 
# lsmodModule  
Size  Used 
bynfsd   
80032   8  
(autoclean)lockd  
61856   1  (autoclean) 
[nfsd]sunrpc 
87824   1  (autoclean) [nfsd 
lockd]autofs 
14212   0  (autoclean) 
(unused)8139too    
16640   
2ipchains   
48264   
0ext3   
67664   
2jbd    
43584   2  
[ext3]aic7xxx   
111728   
3sd_mod 
11616   
3scsi_mod   
97232   2  [aic7xxx sd_mod]
Ako imate ideia za OS ili kak da 
izlazha po golemite distribucii da trganat na nego molia mi kajete 
:):)
 
BIVOL