Re: weiss for ukulele

2005-01-17 Thread Jon Murphy
Tony,

I would expect that you will get some foolish messages on this (to be played
as Weisskiki, or whatever). But there are many instruments in the world -
and there have been many fine composers. An arrangement may be an
orchestration of a simpler piece, or it may be taking an orchestral score
and reducing it to fundmentals to play on a solo intrument, or in a smaller
group. The ukelele is an instrument much maligned by those who didn't like
Arthur Godfrey (an in joke for the older among us). But it needn't play
only Hawaiian pop with chords strummed behind the vocal. It can play
anything set for four strings, just as I've tuned the five strings of my
charango to tunes I want to play.

The name of the instrument is irrelevant to the music. What is relevant is
the range of pitch (the same melody may have quite a different sound in a
higher register), the interval tuning of the courses (but if you have
incredible hands you can play anything in any tuning), and the timbre from
the size and shape of the instrument and the thickness of the soundboard -
as well as relative string tensions).

Rearranging is easy, make your own arrangement of Weiss for ukelele. Look at
the main lines (melody and counter melody and harmony). Play with it and you
may come up with a better arrangement than the one you lost.

Best, Jon


 Alittle while back someone sent a message about an arrangement of Weiss
for
 some ukulele.  As I had already stumbled across it and downloaded it, I
 didn't keep the message - I now find that somewhere along the line I've
lost
 the download ;-(

 Can anybody help, please?

 Tony



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Re: weiss for ukulele

2005-01-17 Thread Tony Chalkley
No, honestly, it does exist, and someone _did_ post a message in the last 
couple of months with the link.  As it happens, I don't yet have a ukelele, 
but I thought this might be a fun place to start.  I shall have to look on 
the archives.


- Original Message - 
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To: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Tony Chalkley 
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Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: weiss for ukulele


 Tony,

 I would expect that you will get some foolish messages on this (to be 
 played
 as Weisskiki, or whatever). But there are many instruments in the world -
 and there have been many fine composers. An arrangement may be an
 orchestration of a simpler piece, or it may be taking an orchestral score
 and reducing it to fundmentals to play on a solo intrument, or in a 
 smaller
 group. The ukelele is an instrument much maligned by those who didn't like
 Arthur Godfrey (an in joke for the older among us). But it needn't play
 only Hawaiian pop with chords strummed behind the vocal. It can play
 anything set for four strings, just as I've tuned the five strings of my
 charango to tunes I want to play.

 The name of the instrument is irrelevant to the music. What is relevant is
 the range of pitch (the same melody may have quite a different sound in 
 a
 higher register), the interval tuning of the courses (but if you have
 incredible hands you can play anything in any tuning), and the timbre from
 the size and shape of the instrument and the thickness of the soundboard -
 as well as relative string tensions).

 Rearranging is easy, make your own arrangement of Weiss for ukelele. Look 
 at
 the main lines (melody and counter melody and harmony). Play with it and 
 you
 may come up with a better arrangement than the one you lost.

 Best, Jon


 Alittle while back someone sent a message about an arrangement of Weiss
 for
 some ukulele.  As I had already stumbled across it and downloaded it, I
 didn't keep the message - I now find that somewhere along the line I've
 lost
 the download ;-(

 Can anybody help, please?

 Tony



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RE: Lyn Elder?

2005-01-17 Thread Eric Hansen

Jason and all:

Lyn has moved to Vermont. Here is his current contact information:

74 North Street
Bristol, VT  05443

His e-mail address remains as before: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Eric Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Jason Yoshida [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 21:38:30 -0800
Subject: Lyn Elder?

Hi,brDoes anyone know how to contact the luthier Lyn Elder.brI tried his 
website and it is no longer online. The telephone number he =brhad listed on 
the various lute society luthier lists prompted a =brdisconnect 
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Re: Gianoncelli ornaments 1650

2005-01-17 Thread Howard Posner
Gianoncelli marks open strings with a T, where an appoggiatura from the note
below is unlikely.

HP



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Re: Gianoncelli ornaments 1650

2005-01-17 Thread Andrea Damiani
Mathias  Roesel wrote:
So, I'd say that combinations of trills or mordents with appogiature
from above or below were European, not only French. BTW in French
baroque lute music, mordents or trills do _not_ always start from upper
notes. Have a look into Jacques Gallot's table of ornaments (1670). 
--
Best wishes,


Dear Mathias,
I have here my Minkoff copy of Gallot's Pieces de luth but I can'find 
any clue to main note trills. Can you please show me where it is? I 
can just find common ornaments like tremblement, martellement (this 
is obviously from the main note) and chute.
Thank you, Andrea
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Re: Gianoncelli ornaments 1650

2005-01-17 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear Andrea,

martellement is what I had in mind, indeed. What I was trying to say was
that French ornaments don't necessarily start from auxiliary notes.
Although using differing signs, Gallot and Mouton agree that the
martellement starts from the main note. (Harpsicordists like Francois
Couperin or Antoine Lebegue also use martellements starting from the
lower auxiliary note.) But that's some twenty, forty years after
Gianoncelli's publication (1650). Couldn't find what one of the
Gaultiers had to say about martellements. You quoted Piccinini as saying
that in his days there were two kinds of tremolo (longo and secondo =
trill and mordent), both starting from the main note.
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Best wishes,

Mathias



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Introduce your lutes to the list!

2005-01-17 Thread Alfonso Marin Lopez-Salazar
Dear All,

I am back again after an intense period of work that did not allow me 
to keep up reading the messages.

Now that I am on the market for a new 10 or 11-course lute I realized 
how difficult it is to choose the right maker among the many ones 
available today.
It is difficult to get references from reliable players and most of the 
makers have a long waiting list so they do not have instruments in 
stock for the potential customers to try and have an idea of their 
work.
I though it could be a good idea if we could introduce our instruments 
to the lutelist with some information about them and some description 
of their sound and qualities.
I would be also a good way to promote young, less experienced makers, 
encouraging us to order from them.

  To start off I will introduce my instruments to the list:

1) 7-course lute by Malcolm Prior (1998) after Venere. Multi rib 
rosewood back. 58.5 cm.
Excelent! Very deep singing sound full of low harmonics. Quite loud. 
The only little problem is that it doesn't speak so quickly. For the 
rest  I am very happy with it. The level of craftsmanship is mint. You 
can listen to it at:

http://www.lutevoice.com/samplesen.html

2) Theorbo by Nico van der Waals (2000). 82 cm/ 164 cm (long neck). Yew 
multi rib back. It is based on his own design. Beautiful sound for solo 
repertoire. The bowl is too small compared to the string length and I 
have the feeling when I play it with orchestras and ensembles that I 
would be happier with a  louder sound. The level of craftsmanship is 
really good but not mint.

I have also a vihuela but the quality is not good enough to be mention 
here.

I am looking forward to know about your instruments!
Many greetings,

Alfonso marin




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Introduce your lutes to the list!

2005-01-17 Thread Alfonso Marin Lopez-Salazar
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Re: Nylgut

2005-01-17 Thread Daniel F Heiman
For the general edification, I have posted Mimmo's US patent for the
manufacture of  musical instrument strings on the Downloads page of the
LSA website:

http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/download/index.html#patent

Regards,

Daniel Heiman