Re: thanks!

2005-05-15 Thread Jon Murphy
A small addendum to Sean's comment on round grooves. A hobby shop or a
hardware store should have sets of the small "Swedish pattern" files. One of
those is a tapered round (or rat tail), and the end of that is quite small
and good for rounding grooves. You don't need an expensive set as the nut
isn't that hard, many sets of three (triangle, round and flat) cost only
about five bucks US. But be careful if you do it, you don't want to go too
far. Work a bit, try the string, then work a bit more. You don't have to
unstring, just slacken the one you are working on and move it over it's
neighbor on the nut and retighten - that way you can maintain the tension so
the string doesn't relax.

Best, Jon


>
> Just before you try everything at once :^) I prefer beeswax to graphite
> since it doesn't leave black marks on your nut. But definitely make
> sure your grooves are round (and a slightly greater radius than the
> string) first.
>
> Sean Smith



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Re: interesting lute trivia

2005-05-15 Thread Jon Murphy

> Etymology of FLUTE:
> First recorded in Provençal, as FLAUT,

And in English the flute player is yet called a flautist.

>Engl. flute > Provenc. fleute > Lat. flatus > flare (blow, breathe).

And I do hope there is no reflection on the sound of the flute - flatus
being the medical term for an expulsion of sometimes noxious gasses from
one's nether region.

> No Arabic needed (would have been al-oud, btw).

One does hope that all instruments are played aloud (although sometimes I
wonder about some players).

Best, Jon



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Re: lute string?

2005-05-15 Thread Jon Murphy
Marion,

I do like the color coding aspect of the graphite, it appeals to my love of
multiple function . As to the methods I'd add a bit to number 3. I've
made relatively wide and shallow channels at the peg end of my nut ( that
avoids a sharp edge as the string goes to the peg - important on my flat
back as the pegs are vertical so the string winding on the peg can't be
adjusted to make the pull direct). That means that the "catch" is likely to
be in the "up-tuning" of the string, so as I tune above pitch I press on the
segment of the string between the nut and the peg - it often pops up a few
cents as the "catch" releases. Then the slackening down to pitch is rather
accurate as the wider end of the groove doesn't catch. I haven't found that
I need a lubricant, but if I did I might try the silicon stick I use on the
joints of my flute and whistles.

Best, Jon



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Re: Ed Martin injured

2005-05-15 Thread Nancy Carlin
Ed Martin lives in Duluth, Minnesota. For those of you not familiar with 
small cities in the American Midwest it's located on the US/Canadian 
border, several hour's drive north of Minneapolis. There are about 15 lute 
players in the Minneapolis area but not very many where Ed lives. Duluth is 
famous for being the place where Bob Dylan was born.
Nancy Carlin


>I fear if I would send a card it would arrive much too late. If anyone should
>visit him please send Ed my best regards and my get-well.
>
>All the best
>Thomas
>
>Am Sonntag, 15. Mai 2005 04:31 schrieb Dr. Marion Ceruti:
> > OK, folks, time to get out the get-well cards, pens and stamps.
> > A photo or two might be nice as well. Ed is a great all-around
> > renaissance lutenist who has distinguished himself in the area of
> > lute songs and much more. I am sure if you were in his
> > position you would want to hear from some of your friends.
> >
> > Show you care.
> >
> > Hopeful for a full recovery,
> >
> > Marion
> > ***Mezzosoprano***
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "AJN (boston)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: May 14, 2005 6:55 AM
> > To: LUTE NET 
> > Subject: Ed Martin injured
> >
> > Many of you know Ed Martin from his contributions to this list and at the
> > LSA Summer Seminars.  On Monday he was severely injured in a cycling
> > accident and is recovering at St. Mary's Hospital in Duluth.  If you wish
> > to send him a note of cheer, here is his address:
> >
> > Ed Martin
> > Room 8241
> > St. Mary's Hospital
> > 407 East Third Street
> > Duluth, MN 55805
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Nonskid lute pad

2005-05-15 Thread Carl Donsbach
>> Hello all,
>> The Belgian Lute Society lute manufactures a nonskid cloth for lutenist,
>> but it has "out of Print" quickly. Until September they won't
>> manufacture more. Does somebody know some similar product and where can
>> it be bought it?
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Best wishes.
>> Jose Luis
>
>
> As a beginner I purchased a chamois for washing cars,basically oil
> tanned sheep skin.It works very well with no slipping and totally natural
> !!! and I find it smells pleasant! Regards
> Tom
>

There is also a kind of rubberized lining material material for kitchen 
drawers.  It's good for keeping things like lutes & vios from sliding 
around.  But it doesn't smell or feel nearly as nice as chamois.

-Carl



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"O Death" redux

2005-05-15 Thread Eric Hansen

A facsimile of the lute song version of "O death, rock me asleep" from is 
available in the following modern printed source:

Title:  English song, 1600-1675 : facsimiles of twenty-six manuscripts 
and an edition of the texts /
Author(s):  Jorgens, Elise Bickford. 
Publication:[New York :; Garland,
Year:   1986-1989
Description:1 score (12 v.) ;; 32 cm.
Language:   English
Music Type: Songs
Standard No:ISBN: 0824082311 (alk. paper : v. 1) :; LCCN: 86-751946

"O death..." is in volume 1 of the series. Check with your local library for 
interlibrary loan of this item.

Best to all,
Eric Hansen
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Re: Early Type Specimens in the Plantin-Moretus Museum

2005-05-15 Thread Greet Schamp

they have a web site, even an english version, at
http://museum.antwerpen.be/plantin_moretus/index_eng.html

It's a very nice museum, you should really visit when passing in 
Belgium, I live nearby so I can guide if you want
there is also a museum of musical instruments nearby
http://museum.antwerpen.be/vleeshuis/index_eng.html

Greet Schamp
Antwerpen
Belgium

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Re: Early Type Specimens in the Plantin-Moretus Museum

2005-05-15 Thread AJN (boston)
Dana and others,

I forgot that you also mentioned Stanley Boorman's work on Petrucci.  His
book (800 pp.) is now finished and should be available very soon.  I recall
a publication date of April 22, or May 22, from Oxford University Press. 
My copy hasn't arrived yet.  That should be a very exciting book for many
of us.  And Stanley is such a good scholar.

Arthur



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Re: Nonskid lute pad

2005-05-15 Thread Tom Knowling

- Original Message -
From: "Jose Luis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 3:30 PM
Subject: Nonskid lute pad


> Hello all,
> The Belgian Lute Society lute manufactures a nonskid cloth for lutenist,
> but it has "out of Print" quickly. Until September they won't
> manufacture more. Does somebody know some similar product and where can
> it be bought it?
> Thanks in advance.
> Best wishes.
> Jose Luis


As a beginner I purchased a chamois for washing cars,basically oil
tanned sheep skin.It works very well with no slipping and totally natural
!!! and I find it smells pleasant! Regards
Tom



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Re: Nonskid lute pad

2005-05-15 Thread Jose Luis
Thank you!
JL

Jon Murphy escribió:

>Not knowing that there were specific cloths for lutenists, and as a
>beginner, I noticed lutenists using the friction of a cloth. I went to an
>auto parts supplier and bought a chamois leather for about ten bucks. There
>is both synthetic and real "chammy" cloths, they are used to dry a car after
>washing. Either has a nice friction to avoid the skid.
>
>Best, Jon
>
>
>  
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Re: Nonskid lute pad

2005-05-15 Thread Jose Luis
Than you!
JL

Jon Murphy escribió:

>Not knowing that there were specific cloths for lutenists, and as a
>beginner, I noticed lutenists using the friction of a cloth. I went to an
>auto parts supplier and bought a chamois leather for about ten bucks. There
>is both synthetic and real "chammy" cloths, they are used to dry a car after
>washing. Either has a nice friction to avoid the skid.
>
>Best, Jon
>
>
>  
>


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Re: Nonskid lute pad

2005-05-15 Thread Jon Murphy
Not knowing that there were specific cloths for lutenists, and as a
beginner, I noticed lutenists using the friction of a cloth. I went to an
auto parts supplier and bought a chamois leather for about ten bucks. There
is both synthetic and real "chammy" cloths, they are used to dry a car after
washing. Either has a nice friction to avoid the skid.

Best, Jon



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Re: Ed Martin injured

2005-05-15 Thread Thomas Schall
I fear if I would send a card it would arrive much too late. If anyone should 
visit him please send Ed my best regards and my get-well.

All the best
Thomas

Am Sonntag, 15. Mai 2005 04:31 schrieb Dr. Marion Ceruti:
> OK, folks, time to get out the get-well cards, pens and stamps.
> A photo or two might be nice as well. Ed is a great all-around
> renaissance lutenist who has distinguished himself in the area of
> lute songs and much more. I am sure if you were in his
> position you would want to hear from some of your friends.
>
> Show you care.
>
> Hopeful for a full recovery,
>
> Marion
> ***Mezzosoprano***
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "AJN (boston)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: May 14, 2005 6:55 AM
> To: LUTE NET 
> Subject: Ed Martin injured
>
> Many of you know Ed Martin from his contributions to this list and at the
> LSA Summer Seminars.  On Monday he was severely injured in a cycling
> accident and is recovering at St. Mary's Hospital in Duluth.  If you wish
> to send him a note of cheer, here is his address:
>
> Ed Martin
> Room 8241
> St. Mary's Hospital
> 407 East Third Street
> Duluth, MN 55805
>
>
>
> To get on or off this list see list information at
> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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Re: interesting lute trivia

2005-05-15 Thread Arto Wikla

> Etimology of FLUTE:
> First recorded in Provençal, as FLAUT, most likely a conflation of Lat.
> FLABEOLUM and Arabic LAÜT (wood or twig, or mus.instr.).
> 
> So apparently Arabs used the "L" word for ALL musical instruments. How
> fitting.

There is an interesting Finnish parallel. In his Latin-Swedish-Finnish
dictionary "Nomenclatura", printed in 1678 Aboe (=Turku),  Henrik Florinus
translates
  Chelys,lyra  Luuta/fiool/fedla   Kandele

The "kantele" is a traditional Finnish string instrument, but its name 
seems to have been used as a generic name for "instrument". Also there
are items:
  Plectrum  Stråka   Kandelen jousi

"kanteeleen jousi" would be the bow of kantele (it was played with bow, 
too)

   Chelonius lyricus  Speelman/lutenist/fiolist  Kandelen soittaja

"kanteleen soittaja" means the player of kantele.

And by the way, find out how "lute" appears in the Swedish translations.

Arto

  



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Nonskid lute pad

2005-05-15 Thread Jose Luis
Hello all,
The Belgian Lute Society lute manufactures a nonskid cloth for lutenist, 
but it has "out of Print" quickly. Until September they won't 
manufacture more. Does somebody know some similar product and where can 
it be bought it?
Thanks in advance.
Best wishes.
Jose Luis

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