Re: Built-in action?
Michael, Andy has come up with a wonderful quote, and quite relevant to this discussion (in which I'm a total amateur). But you do raise the point as to why our modern scholars didn't bring this up at the beginning of the thread. There I separate from you, you seem to believe there are scholars. With all due respect for the academy, and the study involved, there is yet the matter of practicality. The scholar isn't necessarily the antiquarian, he also should be the student of the modern materials (and the one who understands why the old boys picked, and used, what they had to work with). The real scholar understands the time and place and purpose, the historian may (but not always, if he is good) a descriptor of the past. We made it to the moon on a space ship using the laws of physics as proposed by Newton, but the materials that were developed more recently. Newton's laws have been shown to be inaccurate at very high speeds, as in Einsteinian relativity, and the further work of Bohr, Hawkins and others. But they were quite adequate for the trip to the moon. In a similar sense the lutenists of many years ago might have been quite happy to have the technology of finely defined gut fret levels that are available to us today. I've always felt that Columbus would have preferred a steamship to the old galleon, had he had the availability. Would the old lutenists really have faught the pegs, had they had tuning machines. I'm not sure, and the lute I'm making will have pegs. But perhaps we worship a past that would have been more practical had they the opportunity. Best, Jon To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
d on 87 cm
Hi folks, would it be possible to tune a d' on an instrument with 87 cm vibrating string length? What must be the diameter? .38? Thanks for your help! -- Thomas Schall Niederhofheimer Weg 3 D-65843 Sulzbach 06196/74519 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lautenist.de http://www.lautenist.de/bduo/ http://www.lautenist.de/gitarre/ http://www.tslaute.de/weiss/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: d on 87 cm
Thomas, Assuming it is a single string instead of a double course, If it is at a =415 tuning, at 4 Kg of tension, a 0.40 gut will work. If you want it at 440, at 4 Kg of tension. a 0.38 gut will work. ed PS. This is assuming you want gut. I hope this helps! At 06:59 PM 6/30/2005 +0200, you wrote: Hi folks, would it be possible to tune a d' on an instrument with 87 cm vibrating string length? What must be the diameter? .38? Thanks for your help! -- Thomas Schall Niederhofheimer Weg 3 D-65843 Sulzbach 06196/74519 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.lautenist.de http://www.lautenist.de/bduo/ http://www.lautenist.de/gitarre/ http://www.tslaute.de/weiss/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Edward Martin 2817 East 2nd Street Duluth, Minnesota 55812 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice: (218) 728-1202
Re: one more cool picture
I tried this link and it didn't work. My request to Mr. Blumberg was retuned with a questionairrefrom his spam blocker. I also tried it with dotjpg. Still didn't work. - Original Message - From: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LUTE-LIST lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:54 PM Subject: one more cool picture This one seems too rare to let it slip between the cracks. This is colonial Chile, South America, 1660-70, with plucked guitar, bowed guitar, and lute (sopranno? or maybe mandolino?) in one picture. Franciscan order Convent, Santiago Chile. AlegorÃa, painted by Taller de Basilio de Santa Cruz. http://www.thecipher.com/viol_guitar_lute_Chile_1670-80_Franciscan-convent.j pg [catch any trailing characters in the url please] This small viol truly looks colonial i.e. antique, as if it came off the boat 120 years earlier. Something about this picture seems to capture or retain the true essence of the original thing -- paired as it is with this guitar, same relative sizes, same playing postures, side-by-side, mates, etc. There was one other picture with a similar vibe, if you didn't catch it earlier. This one is 1604, three guitars: one plucked, two bowed. Fresco, by Vasco Pereira Lusitano, Coronation of the Virgin, Sao Miguel island, Azores, Portugal [Originally from the Church of the Jesuit college of Ponta Delgada]. http://www.thecipher.com/braccio_3guitars_VascoPereiraLusitano_1604_Coronati onVirgin_V2det.jpg [again, catch any trailing characters in the url please] thanks Roger To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: one more cool picture
- Original Message - From: Arthur Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Roger E. Blumberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]; LUTE-LIST lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 12:00 PM Subject: Re: one more cool picture I tried this link and it didn't work. My request to Mr. Blumberg was retuned with a questionairrefrom his spam blocker. I also tried it with dotjpg. Still didn't work. Hi Arthur; Here's some shorter file names: http://www.thecipher.com/viol_guitar_lute_Chile_1670-80.jpg http://www.thecipher.com/3guitars_VascoLusitano_1604_V2det.jpg Sorry about Earthlink's Spam Blocker. I basically have two settings; full on, or full off. You're on the ok to recieve list now. Thanks Roger To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
creating a personalized lute book
I'm interested in starting a personalized lute book to collect pieces that I like and my own variations and divisions. I know I could just get a 3-ring binder but I'd like to do something a bit nicer. I'd like to keep adding and changing it over the course of my life. Does anyone know how the old lute books were put together? Were the pages just loose? I'm thinking of a nice leather cover with some very minimal binding of loose pages that can be easily changed. Any thoughts are appreciated. Chris Schaub To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: creating a personalized lute book
Christopher Schaub [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'm thinking of a nice leather cover with some very minimal binding of loose pages that can be easily changed. You mightt try this in two stages - A 'working' book of seperate sheets with a few edge holes, the lot tied by ribbons. When a piece proves itself, promote it to another more permanet book, also tied by ribbons. As the second book gets enough pages bind it more permanently and traditionally. Save the leather clad boards for the 'proven' books. Quality books with sewn bindings can be re-bound, something I have not done, so I leave it to you to research this - lots of information exists about quality book binding. -- Dana Emery To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
