Re: OT: Mozart for guitar
Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: So it's a mistake to try to write profound music for the lute? Only if it is a lute in in a or higher. Are we assuming A=440 for these purposes? If so, is it OK to write profound music for lute in A if we're at A=392? Let me put it this way: there should be a set minimum string length, something like 59-60 cm, with severe legal penalties otherwise. may I play my little descant sweety (44 cm), nevertheless, if I close the doors? Cheers, Mathias -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Fw: OT: Mozart for guitar
Let me put it this way: there should be a set minimum string length, something like 59-60 cm, with severe legal penalties otherwise. Have we told the violinists? We are NOT violinists, thankfully. RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: OT: Mozart for guitar
So it's a mistake to try to write profound music for the lute? Only if it is a lute in in a or higher. Are we assuming A=440 for these purposes? If so, is it OK to write profound music for lute in A if we're at A=392? Let me put it this way: there should be a set minimum string length, something like 59-60 cm, with severe legal penalties otherwise. may I play my little descant sweety (44 cm), nevertheless, if I close the doors? No. Use it on the Tochterchen trhough. RT Cheers, Mathias -- ___ $0 Web Hosting with up to 200MB web space, 1000 MB Transfer 10 Personalized POP and Web E-mail Accounts, and much more. Signup at www.doteasy.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: OT: Mozart for guitar
'THE ZONK OF THE LUTE IS OUT OFA' TUNA HALFA DA TIMEA' SORRY - I COULDN'T HELP IT ss Salvatore Salvaggio http://www.Salvaggio.50megs.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: OT: Mozart for guitar
Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: So it's a mistake to try to write profound music for the lute? Only if it is a lute in in a or higher. Are we assuming A=440 for these purposes? If so, is it OK to write profound music for lute in A if we're at A=392? Let me put it this way: there should be a set minimum string length, something like 59-60 cm, with severe legal penalties otherwise. may I play my little descant sweety (44 cm), nevertheless, if I close the doors? No. Use it on the Tochterchen trhough. would encouraging non-adults (children) to play descant lutes _in public_ qualify as an offence of the under-59-cm act? Would lack of other players than my seven-year-old daughter save me from getting filed? Howard? Cheers, Mathias -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Lute Player Needed in Philadelphia Area!!!
the following was posted to the yahoo fretted friends list: Hello, My name is Jeff McNeill. I am an artist who specializes in combining Hip-Hop with Classical Music by recording and performing with classically trained musicians. Most notably, in 2002 I became the first Hip-Hop artist to perform at Philadelphia's prestigious Kimmel Center with musical accompaniment from members of the world-renowned Philadelphia Orchestra and the Chamber Orchestra of Philadelphia. I have incorporated a Lute Suite into one of my songs and I may re-record the piece with live instrumentation. I may also perform the piece very soon with a lutenist. I feel it suffice to forewarn any prospective musicians that the piece contains profanity. So anyone who may find that audacious and sacreligious please disregard this post. Feel free to contact me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can also find a snippet of the recording on: www.myspace.com/theephantom. It's the second track. Thank you for your time. Jeff Mcneill Thee Phantom ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: OT: Mozart for guitar
Excellently said! I once participated in a masterclass with Robert Spencer. My lute had just travelled 100 Km in Nova Scotian winter conditions and I had just changed to my first set of gut strings. Needless to say tuning was a misery, and I suffered the embarassment of wasting considerable time tuning my 10 course in front of an audience of about 80 guitarists and singers. My singer looked like he might need a change of pants at any minute. Robert, ever the gentleman, made light of my difficulties as follows: Lutenists need to live twice as long as ordinary people, because they have to spend a lifetime tuning. It is a sad irony that he had such a short life himself. Marcus Sal Salvaggio wrote: 'THE ZONK OF THE LUTE IS OUT OFA' TUNA HALFA DA TIMEA' SORRY - I COULDN'T HELP IT ss Salvatore Salvaggio http://www.Salvaggio.50megs.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: Lute Player Needed in Philadelphia Area!!!
Note that in the Internet Lute Society version of the posting, it specifies Bach's Lute Suite #1-Bourree. No BWV number is supplied! On Thu, 4 Aug 2005 14:38:47 +0100 (BST) bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the following was posted to the yahoo fretted friends list: Hello, My name is Jeff McNeill. I am an artist who specializes in combining Hip-Hop with Classical Music by recording and performing with classically trained musicians. Most notably, in 2002 I became the first Hip-Hop artist to perform at Philadelphia's prestigious Kimmel Center with musical accompaniment from members of the world-renowned Philadelphia Orchestra and the Chamber Orchestra of Philadelphia. I have incorporated a Lute Suite into one of my songs and I may re-record the piece with live instrumentation. I may also perform the piece very soon with a lutenist. I feel it suffice to forewarn any prospective musicians that the piece contains profanity. So anyone who may find that audacious and sacreligious please disregard this post. Feel free to contact me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can also find a snippet of the recording on: www.myspace.com/theephantom. It's the second track. Thank you for your time. Jeff Mcneill Thee Phantom ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
Re: OT: Mozart for guitar
Mathias Rösel wrote: would encouraging non-adults (children) to play descant lutes _in public_ qualify as an offence of the under-59-cm act? Would lack of other players than my seven-year-old daughter save me from getting filed? Howard? To be fair, Roman's prohibition (far less sweeping than is usual with him) was only against playing profound music. So you and your daughter can play any instrument you want, so long as you inspect it to certify it free of profundity, or, if you find any, do a complete profundectomy on it. H To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: OT: Mozart for guitar
would encouraging non-adults (children) to play descant lutes _in public_ qualify as an offence of the under-59-cm act? Would lack of other players than my seven-year-old daughter save me from getting filed? Howard? To be fair, Roman's prohibition (far less sweeping than is usual with him) was only against playing profound music. So you and your daughter can play any instrument you want, so long as you inspect it to certify it free of profundity, or, if you find any, do a complete profundectomy on it. H I think I'll seek a second opinion from Dan Shoskes, before offering any such procedure, whether with epidural or general anesthesia.. RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
RE: OT: Mozart for guitar
The passage from Segovia's autobiography which I vaguely remember goes something like: You play the guitar to woo your lover. When you are betrayed by your lover, you play the cello to tell your sorrows to your friend. When you are betrayed by your friend, you play the organ to tell your sorrows to God. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 9:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: Re: OT: Mozart for guitar In a message dated 8/3/2005 2:36:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Segovia also said: The song of the piano is a discourse. The song of the 'cello is an elegy. But the song of the guitar is a song. (Actually, to be more correct, he said The zonk of the guitar is a zonk, but I have translated/transliterated) But what is the song of the lute? The song of the lute is transcendental. James -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: Lute Player Needed in Philadelphia Area!!!
If anyone among you knows Philadelphia it is the home of many tracks. The process of riding a train from NYC to Washington involves getting through about twenty tracks, and sub tracks, in Philadelphia. Thirtieth St. Station, Broad Street, and a number of others. And they all wind and mix at low speed. Whether the third track leads to Bach is not of concern to me, but I'm interested in how one can combine Hip-Hop with classical. The Swingle Singers did a great job of combining scat with classical, and I think old Joe Bach might have enjoyed their Brandenburgs. I'm sure the lad McNeill is of good will, but there is a problem with a traditional lute and the Hip-Hop, the latter being highly amplified and the former a rather more subltle music. I am reminded of Resphighi's (sp?) Antique Airs and Dances for Lute - from Oscar Chilosotti (a favorite of mine in undergraduate days over fifty years ago). An orchestration of the sense and sound of the early lute dances, but an orchestration that lost the subtlety of the singular lute. No objection, it brought many people to the listening to older music. Best, Jon - Original Message - From: Ed Durbrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 12:53 PM Subject: Re: Lute Player Needed in Philadelphia Area!!! He mixed up the tracks. It's the THIRD track and uses the famous Bouree from Bach's lute suite. On Aug 4, 2005, at 10:38 PM, bill kilpatrick wrote: the following was posted to the yahoo fretted friends list: Hello, My name is Jeff McNeill. I am an artist who specializes in combining Hip-Hop with Classical Music by recording and performing with classically trained musicians. Most notably, in 2002 I became the first Hip-Hop artist to perform at Philadelphia's prestigious Kimmel Center with musical accompaniment from members of the world-renowned Philadelphia Orchestra and the Chamber Orchestra of Philadelphia. I have incorporated a Lute Suite into one of my songs and I may re-record the piece with live instrumentation. I may also perform the piece very soon with a lutenist. I feel it suffice to forewarn any prospective musicians that the piece contains profanity. So anyone who may find that audacious and sacreligious please disregard this post. Feel free to contact me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can also find a snippet of the recording on: www.myspace.com/theephantom. It's the second track. Thank you for your time. Jeff Mcneill Thee Phantom ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
Re: OT: Mozart for guitar
Stuart, The passage from Segovia's autobiography which I vaguely remember goes something like: You play the guitar to woo your lover. When you are betrayed by your lover, you play the cello to tell your sorrows to your friend. When you are betrayed by your friend, you play the organ to tell your sorrows to God. My lady of thirty years has always wondered why I insist on playing other instruments when she was wooed by my guitar - but it was my guitar so much as my singing with it in a traditional folk form - I was never skilled on the classical guitar. But I am interested by the quote from Segovia, whom I always thought of as a great mechanic on the guitar, but one lacking a bit in the soul of the instrument. I liked the passion of Montoya (admittedly Flamenco) and in the more Spanish Sabicas. But seeing this quote I think I understand Segovia better. I'll adjust my opinion. How well said, substitute the lute for the guitar - or for we ethics play the airs on the D whistle to your love, and play them on the low whistle to the moon. But the double betrayal deserves the power of anguish. Nothing better than the organ to send all your music into space, and simultaneously. The pipe organ can bring down the walls, or sing to the corners. But it is yet for the small clear voice of the lute to fill the cathedral when the echoes of the organ stop. Or the guitar, or the whistle, or any small instrument. My own preference is for small music, but I can enjoy the large if followed by the small, and then filled out again. Best, Jon To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Re: Fw: Byrd
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