[LUTE] Re: mouth harp
mouth harp is (was) used a lot down south (sicily) where it's called a spaccapensiero or thought breaker. i imagine an evening of boing-boing would disturb anyone's tranquility. bad karma days, endured with equanimity and grace, bring good karma days ... sort of a zen/zwingli metaphysical melange to help bide you over the bumpy bits. - bill LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today was the concert with the music by Albrechtsberger for strings, mouth harp and mandora. It was fun! The instrument is actually quite expressive and sensitive; I was positively impressed. Four instruments were needed for this one concerto. Each mouth harp is tuned, and the player can play only the harmonics. He has to be quite virtuosic in changing instruments to accomplish it all. On another note, I had a bad kharma day, however. The weather has been especially hot around here lately, far into the 30's (celcius). Yesterday I changed my first string - which had served me well for many weeks - to have a nice new one for the concert. The concerthall was airconditioned and quite drafty. So today imy first string broke before I could play anything in rehearsal. I put on a new one, which broke as well. The next one lasted the rehearsal, but broke back stage five minutes before I had to play. I had run out of 0.42, so I put on a 0.44. This one was almost to short, but with some trickery I managed to put it on. Playing with a capodastro made changing strings, and tuning afterwards, a bit more complicated. Having really thick gut basses and thin octave strings makes a capo very tricky. I tune between movements and in tacet parts wit an electronic tuner. Tuning was reasonably ok, I think. I was planning to finish off my old stock of Kürschners, the thin ones tend to break quite unannouned, but that I would do it so quick was a bit of a surprise. It's nice, living on the edge ... And a note on historical amplification: both the mouth harp and the lute were amplified. It was a big hall. David David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html - Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail . The New Version is radically easier to use The Wall Street Journal --
[LUTE] Re: mouth harp
Francesco Tribioli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Not spaccapensiero but scacciapensieri, which is thoughts expeller because supposedly one starts to play it and forgot his cares... ... and his far from perfect command of the italian language - scusami. - bill - Yahoo! Photos NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 7p a photo. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Liuto Forte
The guitarish aspect of interpretation is mainly due to Oliver's playing. He is a guitar player pretending also to play lute. I am not sure which CD you have listend to. I seem to remember he recorded one on a lute. Actually I wouldn't care to much about that instrument if Oliver, Andrè and the others would make clear that it's a newly developed instrument. I think we are still on the way to promote the lute as a valued concert instrument and performances on a LF serve old prejudices. Just my opinion Thomas -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: gary digman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Montag, 31. Juli 2006 04:28 An: lutelist Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Liuto Forte I listened to the Oliver Holzenburg CD. There is no information provided about Holzenburg's lute in the liner notes, but from the picture, it appears that the lute is double strung with gut frets. The sound is not bad, but does have a guitarish quality. It is certainly loud at the high end, but the bass end seems a little weak. Gary To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Liuto Forte
I spoke with Markus Dietrich who visted a talk bei Benno Scheu. Actually it seems to be very interesting but not as sensational as the LF site makes us believe. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Bernd Haegemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Montag, 31. Juli 2006 09:59 An: Howard Posner; Roman Turovsky Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Liuto Forte The LF modifications are not nearly as drastic. The main being the idea of gut frets absorbing vibration, while metal ones reflecting it. As I recall the LF barring sistem is basically baroque. site; they may be exaggerating the level of their innovation. In fact, that's the general opinion. May I cite: In particular, the LIUTO FORTE sounds extremely well in big halls and has a strikingly powerful resonance. Both of these features are due to the application of a secret discovered by Benno Streu concerning the combination of woods used in the heyday of lute- and guitar making. What could that secret be?? best wishes Bernd To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] metal frets and loud lutes
It's deja-vu al over again. Didn't we go through this once already ? The LSO [Lute Shaped Object] is louder because its metal frets don't absorb energy like compliant gut frets ? In the words of Berke Breathed another beautiful theory destroyed by ugly facts. It just doesn't stand up in practice and you can easily verify this: 1.) Unlike most people discussing this I once actually did the experiment. When I was in graduate school I purchased a 10 course lute made by Reid Galbraith. The previous owner had paid my friend John the guitar maker to put metal frets on it. After I bought it I paid John to remove them. It didn't make any noticeable difference in the instrument's volume. 2.) You *can* try this at home. Go to the hobby store and buy a piece of brass rod slightly thicker than the frets on your lute. Cut a short piece and tack it in place as a temporary fret with a bit of double stick tape. Play a few notes. Is your lute suddenly louder ? I thought not. 3.) Object that (2.) isn't valid because the metal fret isn't properly anchored in a slot ? Do the reverse experiment. Take a modern guitar and tie a temporary gut fret (nice and thick) somewhere. Play a few notes. Is your guitar suddenly vastly quieter ?? 4.) Too world wear to do either (2.) or (3.) ? Just pick up your lute. Play a few notes both open strings and fretted notes. There is a subtle difference in tone quality (as there is on a metal fretted guitar) but are the open strings (upper end of the string stopped by decidedly un-compliant bone) really a lot louder than than the fretted strings (upper end of the string stopped by finger against compliant gut) ??? As we say in the trade... Next theory, please. --- On a different aspect of the same discussion - there is at least one case where the evolution of an instrument made it significantly *softer*. A baroque oboe is a much quieter beast than a soprano shawm. .Bob To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Lute Citing [sic]
I found a lute reference in a rather unexpected setting: the lap of Sherlock Holmes! (The Italian Secretary, a new Sherlock Holmes mystery taking place mainly in Holyroodhouse, Edinburgh, Scotland.) Dr. John Watson, as usual, narrates: An ancient stringed instrument was perched across one of his [Holmes'] knees. .. He continued to pluck and toy with the old musical instrument, forcing me finally to inquire: Holmes, what _is_ that thing? .. It is a lute, Watson. .. ..satisfied that he had properly tuned the thing at last, Holmes began to play... Surely this last bit is proof that Holmes is the greatest of detectives! Regards, Leonard Williams No portions of the plot have been revealed in the writing of this missive. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Lute Citing [sic]-addendum
The novel is by Caleb Carr. I found a lute reference in a rather unexpected setting: the lap of Sherlock Holmes! (The Italian Secretary, a new Sherlock Holmes mystery taking place mainly in Holyroodhouse, Edinburgh, Scotland.) Dr. John Watson, as usual, narrates: An ancient stringed instrument was perched across one of his [Holmes'] knees. .. He continued to pluck and toy with the old musical instrument, forcing me finally to inquire: Holmes, what _is_ that thing? .. It is a lute, Watson. .. ..satisfied that he had properly tuned the thing at last, Holmes began to play... Surely this last bit is proof that Holmes is the greatest of detectives! Regards, Leonard Williams No portions of the plot have been revealed in the writing of this missive. -- End of Forwarded Message To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute Citing [sic]-addendum
In a biography of Dietrich Bonhoeffer I was reading recently, it said that he sang to the the playing of his lute one night - ca 1923 or so... - Original Message - From: Leonard Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 7:13 PM Subject: [LUTE] Lute Citing [sic]-addendum The novel is by Caleb Carr. I found a lute reference in a rather unexpected setting: the lap of Sherlock Holmes! (The Italian Secretary, a new Sherlock Holmes mystery taking place mainly in Holyroodhouse, Edinburgh, Scotland.) Dr. John Watson, as usual, narrates: An ancient stringed instrument was perched across one of his [Holmes'] knees. .. He continued to pluck and toy with the old musical instrument, forcing me finally to inquire: Holmes, what _is_ that thing? .. It is a lute, Watson. .. ..satisfied that he had properly tuned the thing at last, Holmes began to play... Surely this last bit is proof that Holmes is the greatest of detectives! Regards, Leonard Williams No portions of the plot have been revealed in the writing of this missive. -- End of Forwarded Message To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute Citing [sic]
Dear all: As this item was not written by Arthur Conan Doyle, it strikes me as preposterous -- as bad as most Holmes pastiches (which would make it pretty bad). It takes Holmes out of the 19th century; his violin playing was never portrayed as antiquarian. On the other hand, Holmes was mentioned in a Doyle story as being interested in the isorhythmic motets of Lassus. Or was it Tallis? I wonder if Doyle himself actually knew anything about isorhythmic motets. Jim -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
