[LUTE] Re: de Visee Noels
They're identified by Bryan Prud'homme as being Une jeune pucelle [aka Une jeune fillette, La Monica] Je me suis leve par un matinet A la venue de noel P On 10/03/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Does anyone out there know where I might be able to find out the titles of the the three Noels in A minor for theorbo found in Saizenay? Thanks! Chris Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Peter Martin Belle Serre La Caulie 81100 Castres France tel: 0033 5 63 35 68 46 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.silvius.co.uk http://absolute81.blogspot.com/ www.myspace.com/sambuca999 www.myspace.com/chuckerbutty --
[LUTE] Re: de Visee Noels
Peter, Thanks a lot! Are those the titles of the pieces as they appear in the manuscript, top to bottom? They're all just labeled Noel. Chris --- Peter Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're identified by Bryan Prud'homme as being Une jeune pucelle [aka Une jeune fillette, La Monica] Je me suis leve par un matinet A la venue de noel P On 10/03/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Does anyone out there know where I might be able to find out the titles of the the three Noels in A minor for theorbo found in Saizenay? Thanks! Chris Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Peter Martin Belle Serre La Caulie 81100 Castres France tel: 0033 5 63 35 68 46 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.silvius.co.uk http://absolute81.blogspot.com/ www.myspace.com/sambuca999 www.myspace.com/chuckerbutty -- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
[LUTE] Biber for archlute, too...
Dear lutensits, I have corrected some errors in the 6-course version: one flag was wrong and worse still, two bars had too many notes... Now it should be ok. Today I got ready(?) also the archlute version. Now my page says: - * 6-course lute: Is this art or sport? Well, violin has only 4 strings... :-) This is a classical thumb under, thumb-index, renaissance lute version. Some very fast runs have been recomposed to make it possible for lute. The melody goes very high - 12th fret- in section 63-72. Many sections of the piece are perhaps useful also as thumb-index etydes? * Archlute: I think this version is a little easier for making art... This version is harmonized in the archlute way. Actually only in the middle section (bars 77-92) more than 9 courses are needed. And if you can play the piece at all, you certainly are able to edit that part for your number of courses... ;-) In this version the high section (bars 63-72) is taken down an octave - no 12th frets! To my taste this sounds better on archlute, but if you like athletics, you can easily borrow that section from the 6-course version. Also in this archlute version the very fast runs have been recomposed. -- Let me know, if you have problems in printing those pdf's, or if you find some severe errors. All the best, Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: de Visee Noels
Yes, those are the three pieces in order of appearance. My information came from Bryan Prud'homme's 1992 University of Colorado PhD dissertation on the theorbo works of Robert de Visee, of which I bought a copy a few years ago in a fit of enthusiasm for RdV. He's picked up two of the titles from concordances. I don't know where the third one (Or dites Marie) came from. Anyone know if Bryan is still active in the lute world? P On 11/03/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, Thanks a lot! Are those the titles of the pieces as they appear in the manuscript, top to bottom? They're all just labeled Noel. Chris --- Peter Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're identified by Bryan Prud'homme as being Une jeune pucelle [aka Une jeune fillette, La Monica] Je me suis leve par un matinet A la venue de noel P On 10/03/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Does anyone out there know where I might be able to find out the titles of the the three Noels in A minor for theorbo found in Saizenay? Thanks! Chris Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Peter Martin Belle Serre La Caulie 81100 Castres France tel: 0033 5 63 35 68 46 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.silvius.co.uk http://absolute81.blogspot.com/ www.myspace.com/sambuca999 www.myspace.com/chuckerbutty -- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- Peter Martin Belle Serre La Caulie 81100 Castres France tel: 0033 5 63 35 68 46 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.silvius.co.uk http://absolute81.blogspot.com/ www.myspace.com/sambuca999 www.myspace.com/chuckerbutty --
[LUTE] Re: Biber for archlute, too...
Ooops, I forget the address: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Biber/Passagalia/ Arto I wrote: Dear lutensits, I have corrected some errors in the 6-course version: one flag was wrong and worse still, two bars had too many notes... Now it should be ok. Today I got ready(?) also the archlute version. Now my page says: - * 6-course lute: Is this art or sport? Well, violin has only 4 strings... :-) This is a classical thumb under, thumb-index, renaissance lute version. Some very fast runs have been recomposed to make it possible for lute. The melody goes very high - 12th fret- in section 63-72. Many sections of the piece are perhaps useful also as thumb-index etydes? * Archlute: I think this version is a little easier for making art... This version is harmonized in the archlute way. Actually only in the middle section (bars 77-92) more than 9 courses are needed. And if you can play the piece at all, you certainly are able to edit that part for your number of courses... ;-) In this version the high section (bars 63-72) is taken down an octave - no 12th frets! To my taste this sounds better on archlute, but if you like athletics, you can easily borrow that section from the 6-course version. Also in this archlute version the very fast runs have been recomposed. -- Let me know, if you have problems in printing those pdf's, or if you find some severe errors. All the best, Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: de Visee Noels
BTW that information has been provided in the table of contents to the 1980 Minkoff edition of the Saizenay ms. (1979 by Claude Chauvel). Mathias Peter Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Yes, those are the three pieces in order of appearance. My information came from Bryan Prud'homme's 1992 University of Colorado PhD dissertation on the theorbo works of Robert de Visee, of which I bought a copy a few years ago in a fit of enthusiasm for RdV. He's picked up two of the titles from concordances. I don't know where the third one (Or dites Marie) came from. Anyone know if Bryan is still active in the lute world? P On 11/03/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, Thanks a lot! Are those the titles of the pieces as they appear in the manuscript, top to bottom? They're all just labeled Noel. Chris --- Peter Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're identified by Bryan Prud'homme as being Une jeune pucelle [aka Une jeune fillette, La Monica] Je me suis leve par un matinet A la venue de noel P On 10/03/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Does anyone out there know where I might be able to find out the titles of the the three Noels in A minor for theorbo found in Saizenay? Thanks! Chris To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Biber for archlute, too...
Looks great Arto, but more uncluttered would be removing not necesary repeated rhythm flags if possible. G. - Original Message - From: Arto Wikla [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ooops, I forget the address: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Biber/Passagalia/ Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
