[LUTE] Re: amateur recording
> > > >Hope you'll like it< of course i do ! beautifull tone, precise technik, moving and historically informed playing...not to mention fantastic singing. i think that " amateur recording " thread better be called " historical recordings" for their inventivnes and really great playing -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: larger theorbos
Hilarious... Sting brought back the lute big time, you made it Gargantuan ;-) Happy Easter holidays to all the luters out there and peace on earth we David Tayler schrieb: People have been asking if I also play these larger Theorbos, So I have a picture of the largest one. http://www.voicesofmusic.org/klaus%20theorbo.html At a length of 1400 centimeters (48 feet or so) it is basically all-reentrant., or subentrant. Currently strung in boat catline, from the pirate wreck that had the dulcian on board. The original rose was taken intact from a wooden cathedral in Grenouille, France, famous also for the "Fourth Bear." There is also the tiorbinunculus at the bottom, only a few centimeters long, a precise 1/50th scale of the larger one, used once in the recording of Telemann's "Gulliver's Travels." The tiorbinunculus is of course exactly the size that it appears in the Praetorius book in that it will fit easily on one page. Note that these measurements, like the new Talbot interpretations, are of the whole body, not just the string length, which allows the lowest notes to be above the audible threshhold of 20Hz. Takes a bit of getting used to. dt To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: orpharion sources?
Perhaps I am imagining this, since it has been at least 25 years since I read through the Holborne dissertation, but aren't there a few orpharion pieces? Also, the extremely broad generalization that there is nothing to distinguish the lute repertory from the orpharion repertory certainly is highly suspect, since Barley himself states that they are different. One would have to really go through every piece to look for other differences, such as the avoidance of certain chords or textures. The Barley pieces do look a bit lighter on the monster chord side of things, but only a detailed analysis would show whether there is a meaningful difference, and this would include ornament signs, temperament, chords, crossover points, ficta, fingering, bass-tenor groupings, etc., etc. This would to a degree depend on the different versions of Orpharia. The conflation of of lute hardware in scholarship is one of the big challenges: The past represents diversity; the analyses uniformity. dt To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Faria
I know he periodically vanishes, and there's probably no cause for alarm, but has anyone heard from Luciano Faria in the last several months? Joseph Mayes -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: orpharion sources?
I'm assuming you have Barley. dt At 08:40 AM 3/21/2008, you wrote: >Hi all, > >I am trying to assemble a list of all known sources (prints and >manuscripts) that *specifically* call for orpharion (as opposed to >pieces "possibly" for orpharion). I'm wondering if anyone has one >that I've missed? > >For printed books prior to 1600, I have all the sources listed by Brown. > >For post 1600 prints, I have Pilkington's "Pavan for Orpharion" in >the Altus part book of his Second set of Madrigals (1624). > >I have also seen a reference to a work "Sacred Hymns..." by Sir Edwin >Sandys and Robert Tailour that either mentions orpharion or calls for >it? I have not seen the work myself, so I'm not sure if it is solely >a literary reference or a musical one. > >As for manuscripts, the only one of which I am aware that >*specifically* calls for orpharion is CUL Dd.3.18. There are 4 pieces >for an ensemble of what appears to be 3 viols and 3 orpharions (none >of the pieces are complete, though it might be possible to reconstruct them?). > >Does anyone know of anything else? I am trying to catalogue them for >inclusion on by "printed sources" and "manuscripts" pages on the cittern site. > >Thanks in advance, >Andrew >http://www.cittern.theaterofmusic.com > > > >To get on or off this list see list information at >http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Dowland-sighting
> > >>It's a bass clarinet, but indeed sensitively played.<< we here should learn more about musical instruments i think. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] C'est le premiere jour du Printemps . . .
March 21st, 2008 Dear Lutenists: Happy Bach's Birthday! with thanks, Rebecca Banks Tea at Tympani Lane Records www.tympanilanerecords.com _ Express yourself with free Messenger emoticons. Get them today! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/207 -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Dowland-sighting
On Mar 21, 2008, at 8:41 AM, Arne Keller wrote: > Especially the bass saxophone player is good. It's a bass clarinet, but indeed sensitively played. I like the singer too. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Dowland-sighting
I must have fallen off the list, since I never received my copy of this question. Now I should be back on. So, if anyone has comments, could I ask you to re-send? Thank you, Arne. - Original Message - From: Arne Keller To: Lutelist Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 6:51 PM Subject: Dowland-sighting Dear Collected, are you aware of this: http://www.myspace.com/johndowland I wish I knew who put this up. I would like to ask this person, where the lovely painting is, and why he/she thinks it portrays JD. There are some nice sound clips. Especially the bass saxophone player is good. Truly confusticated, Arne. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] orpharion sources?
Hi all, I am trying to assemble a list of all known sources (prints and manuscripts) that *specifically* call for orpharion (as opposed to pieces "possibly" for orpharion). I'm wondering if anyone has one that I've missed? For printed books prior to 1600, I have all the sources listed by Brown. For post 1600 prints, I have Pilkington's "Pavan for Orpharion" in the Altus part book of his Second set of Madrigals (1624). I have also seen a reference to a work "Sacred Hymns..." by Sir Edwin Sandys and Robert Tailour that either mentions orpharion or calls for it? I have not seen the work myself, so I'm not sure if it is solely a literary reference or a musical one. As for manuscripts, the only one of which I am aware that *specifically* calls for orpharion is CUL Dd.3.18. There are 4 pieces for an ensemble of what appears to be 3 viols and 3 orpharions (none of the pieces are complete, though it might be possible to reconstruct them?). Does anyone know of anything else? I am trying to catalogue them for inclusion on by "printed sources" and "manuscripts" pages on the cittern site. Thanks in advance, Andrew http://www.cittern.theaterofmusic.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: larger theorbos
David, Nice photo - lookin' good! * Disclaimer: smart-assness ahead. Unfortunately, you've ignorantly strung the large instrument with only wimpy single strings. Current interpratation of the evidence now dictates that these theorbos must at least be set up with four, five or - preferably - six strings per course, including all the diapasons. For the most scholarly rigorous individuals among us, this means EIGHTY-FOUR strings! (A truly significant expense, given the cost of gut strings the diameter of sewer pipes. But _so_ worth the academic superiority.) Obviously these will be unisons throughout, ambiguous evidence notwithstanding. This makes for a theorbo that is totally impossible to keep in tune or even play, but what a tone! Chris >;-) --- David Tayler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > People have been asking if I also play these larger > Theorbos, > So I have a picture of the largest one. > > http://www.voicesofmusic.org/klaus%20theorbo.html > > > At a length of 1400 centimeters (48 feet or so) it > is basically > all-reentrant., or subentrant. > Currently strung in boat catline, from the pirate > wreck that had the > dulcian on board. > The original rose was taken intact from a wooden > cathedral in > Grenouille, France, famous also for the "Fourth > Bear." > > There is also the tiorbinunculus at the bottom, only > a few > centimeters long, a precise 1/50th scale of the > larger one, used once > in the recording of Telemann's > "Gulliver's Travels." The tiorbinunculus is of > course exactly the > size that it appears in the Praetorius book in that > it will fit > easily on one page. > > Note that these measurements, like the new Talbot > interpretations, > are of the whole body, not just the string length, > which allows the lowest notes to be above the > audible threshhold of 20Hz. > Takes a bit of getting used to. > dt > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[LUTE] Re: larger theorbos
A theorbo surely beats the bass-guitar as a phallic symbol. RT - Original Message - From: "igor ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Edward Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "David Tayler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "lute-cs.dartmouth.edu" Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 8:17 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: larger theorbos thanks for letting us all know ... you're huge in california ! -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html __ D O T E A S Y - "Join the web hosting revolution!" http://www.doteasy.com
[LUTE] Re: Air Gascon
Bird perched on a bush Sing a song About my life Then fly To Marguerite And tell her of my sorrow. Tell her first That I am pining to death Because I have not seen her My tears are so sad That I wish I were in my grave. Courtesy of Le Poeme harmonique. Monica - Original Message - From: "Rob MacKillop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Vihuela" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 9:30 AM Subject: [VIHUELA] Air Gascon I'm having trouble understanding the text of Moulinie's Air Gascon: Lauzel ques sul boyssou. Seems to my uneducated eye a mixture of French, Italian and Spanish. Where is Gascon? Here is the text. Translation, anyone? Lauzel ques sul boyssou, Digos uno cansou Alegro la mio vido: E baiten tout d'u vol Veire la Margarido, Li raconta mon dol. E digos li d'abort, Que yeu souy deja mort Despey quieu nou ley visto, E qu'absent de son oel Yeu ey larmo tant tristo Quieu bouldrio' estre'al tombel. It comes from Moulinie's collection of Airs de Cour avec la tablature de luth et de guitarre (1629) which Timo Peedu has kindly placed on my website: http://www.rmguitar.info/scores.htm - these are really good songs. Rob MacKillop -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: larger theorbos
thanks for letting us all know ... you're huge in california ! -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: larger theorbos
Very cool, David... on a billboard? We are so glad to finally see a member of the lute family on a billboard. ed At 02:46 AM 3/21/2008 -0700, David Tayler wrote: >People have been asking if I also play these larger Theorbos, >So I have a picture of the largest one. > >http://www.voicesofmusic.org/klaus%20theorbo.html > > >At a length of 1400 centimeters (48 feet or so) it is basically >all-reentrant., or subentrant. >Currently strung in boat catline, from the pirate wreck that had the >dulcian on board. >The original rose was taken intact from a wooden cathedral in >Grenouille, France, famous also for the "Fourth Bear." > >There is also the tiorbinunculus at the bottom, only a few >centimeters long, a precise 1/50th scale of the larger one, used once >in the recording of Telemann's >"Gulliver's Travels." The tiorbinunculus is of course exactly the >size that it appears in the Praetorius book in that it will fit >easily on one page. > >Note that these measurements, like the new Talbot interpretations, >are of the whole body, not just the string length, >which allows the lowest notes to be above the audible threshhold of 20Hz. >Takes a bit of getting used to. >dt > > > > >To get on or off this list see list information at >http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG. >Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1337 - Release Date: 3/20/2008 >8:10 PM Edward Martin 2817 East 2nd Street Duluth, Minnesota 55812 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice: (218) 728-1202
[LUTE] Re: larger theorbos
sorry - i thought it was bach's birthday, not april first... On Mar 21, 2008, at 10:46 AM, David Tayler wrote: People have been asking if I also play these larger Theorbos, So I have a picture of the largest one. http://www.voicesofmusic.org/klaus%20theorbo.html At a length of 1400 centimeters (48 feet or so) it is basically all-reentrant., or subentrant. Currently strung in boat catline, from the pirate wreck that had the dulcian on board. The original rose was taken intact from a wooden cathedral in Grenouille, France, famous also for the "Fourth Bear." There is also the tiorbinunculus at the bottom, only a few centimeters long, a precise 1/50th scale of the larger one, used once in the recording of Telemann's "Gulliver's Travels." The tiorbinunculus is of course exactly the size that it appears in the Praetorius book in that it will fit easily on one page. Note that these measurements, like the new Talbot interpretations, are of the whole body, not just the string length, which allows the lowest notes to be above the audible threshhold of 20Hz. Takes a bit of getting used to. dt To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] larger theorbos
People have been asking if I also play these larger Theorbos, So I have a picture of the largest one. http://www.voicesofmusic.org/klaus%20theorbo.html At a length of 1400 centimeters (48 feet or so) it is basically all-reentrant., or subentrant. Currently strung in boat catline, from the pirate wreck that had the dulcian on board. The original rose was taken intact from a wooden cathedral in Grenouille, France, famous also for the "Fourth Bear." There is also the tiorbinunculus at the bottom, only a few centimeters long, a precise 1/50th scale of the larger one, used once in the recording of Telemann's "Gulliver's Travels." The tiorbinunculus is of course exactly the size that it appears in the Praetorius book in that it will fit easily on one page. Note that these measurements, like the new Talbot interpretations, are of the whole body, not just the string length, which allows the lowest notes to be above the audible threshhold of 20Hz. Takes a bit of getting used to. dt To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
