[LUTE] Re: was Galliard after Laveche (William Ballet Lute Book), now: scan vs camera

2008-12-07 Thread gary digman
I haven't used the LSA Microfilm Library for a while, but, as I remember, 
they used to give you the option of renting the microfilm or buying a 
"hardcopy", although the quality of the hardcopy was considerably less than 
I could get from the microfilm using my library's equipment.


Gary

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now: scan vs camera




Nancy Carlin wrote:

   I love the idea of the LSA Microfilm library being digital, but wonder
   if it will happen in my lifetime. There is considerable concern that
   the libraries that provided those microfilms (a lot of them to me back
   in the 70s when I was Microfilm Librarian) would go ballistic if did
   anything more than loan out our copies of the films.  From what I
   understand they cannot own the copyrights on the original materials
   because they are so old, but they do own it on the photography.


Unfortunate but true.  It makes the LSA microflim library of very little
use to those of us who have no access to microfilm equipment.

Stephen fryer



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[LUTE] Re: Lute spotting...

2008-12-07 Thread David van Ooijen
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Andrew Gibbs
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ..in 'Whisper of the heart'  - an animated film by the wonderful
> Studio Ghibli (directed by Hayao Miyazaki's protege Yoshifumi Kondo).
>
> A 6 course lute appears - along with a violin, gamba, tambourine,
> shawm and recorder - in a scene where characters improvise an
> accompaniment to John Denver's 'Take Me Home Country Roads'.


Good encore piece, especially with the Japanese lyrics. Score
available somewhere?

David

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[LUTE] Re: Lilypond da Milano

2008-12-07 Thread Peter Nightingale
Alexander,

Thank you very much!  It may be unconventional, but I think it looks 
perfectly respectable and very useful -- maybe I should add for tablature?

Others,

Those of you who do not know Lilypond and who might like to use 
Alexander's template, all you have to do is change the notes stored in the 
variables I,...,IV.  The notation used is the relative notation.  The note 
immediately after the \relative declaration specifies the absolute pitch. 
Subsequent notes are by default chosen to be the nearest ones, up or down, 
i.e., c g means go down from whichever c you are at to the nearest g 
below.  If you want to go up by a fifth you would have to write c g'; to 
deviate from the default in the downward direction, you append a comma 
instead of a prime.  This convention works well most of the time or 
otherwise produces interesting errors.

Lilypond provides no WYSIWIG without the information of how you got what 
you get, but instead it is an unambiguous, self-documenting road map to 
WYWIWYG, What You Want Is What You Get, at least if that's what you want.

Peter.

On Sat, 6 Dec 2008, alexander wrote:

> O well ,once started, hard to stop. This is how it looks in the end ( pdf, 
> midi and ly files here)
> http://www.4shared.com/dir/10890314/b1afbb12/Francesco.html
>
> \version "2.10.33"
> \header{
>   title = "Ricercar"
>   opus = \markup {\small \italic "(N 52)"}
>composer = "Francesco da Milano"
>   tagline = ""
>   piece = \markup {\small \italic ""}
> }
> \paper{
>  paper-size = "letter"
>  oddFooterMarkup = "Francesco Ricercar"
>  %%system-count = #10
>  ragged-bottom = ##t
>  ragged-lastbottom = ##t
>  %%print-page-number = ##t
>  top-margin = .001\in
>  %%bottom-margin = .1\in
>  %%head-separation = 0\in
>  %%foot-separation = 0\in
>  %%between-system-space = .25\in
>  %%between-system-padding = .25\in
>  before-title-space = .001\in
>  between-title-space = .001\in
>  after-title-space = .001\in
>
>  }
>  #(set-global-staff-size 17
>  )
>
> #(define (fret-letter-tablature-format string tuning pitch)
>(make-string 1 (integer->char
> (+ (char->integer #\a)
> (- (ly:pitch-semitones pitch)
>(list-ref tuning (- string 1)))
>
>
> bb = \bar "|"
> offset = {
>   \override Voice.Stem #'extra-offset = #'(0 . .6)
>   \override Voice.Beam #'extra-offset = #'(0 . .6)
> }
>
> I = \context Voice \relative c' {
>   \set Staff.midiInstrument = "harpsichord"
>   \once \override Score.MetronomeMark #'transparent = ##t
>   \tempo 4 = 42
>   \offset
>   \stemUp g'4\1 g8\1 g\1 \bar "|" d4\2 d\2 \bar "|" r8 a'\1 g\1 f\2 ees\2 
> g16.\1 a32\1 \bar "|"
>
>   bes8\1 bes\1 a\1 g\1 \bb g\1 f\2 ees\2 d\2 \bb r16 f\2 ees\2 d\2 r bes'\1 
> a\1 g\1 r c\1 \bb
>
>   bes8.\1 a16\1 g16.\1 f32\2 ees16 d c f8 ees16 \bb d8. s r16 d \bb bes ees d 
> g[ f bes] g c a f \bb
>
>   g bes8 a g fis16 \bb g4 f8 d ees4 d8 s \bb
>
>   f16. g32 a16 f c'4 \bb bes8. bes16 a g8 fis16 \bb g8 g g ees16 c d bes c d 
> \bb
>
>   ees16. d32 c16 bes a g32\4 a \bb bes c d e f g a bes c16 bes a g \bb f32 
> ees d c bes a g f ees d c bes\6
>
>   r16 c'' bes a g bes a g \bb f a g f e g f e \bb r bes' a g16. e32 fis g 
> fis16 g \bb g4 \bar "||"
> }
> II = \context Voice \relative c' {
>   \set Staff.midiInstrument = "harpsichord"
>   \stemDown s1 d8\2 d\2 bes\3 bes\3 r16 c\3 ees8\2
>
>   d s s c bes a c d\3 c s s s c
>
>   d8. s s s bes c16 bes c a8 s16 c bes ees s d ees8 c16 d\3
>
>   ees d c8 d s s1
>
>   s4.. ees16 d8. d16 c bes a8 s16 ees' d c8 b16 c a\4 bes g8 bes16
>
>   s4. s2 s4.
>
>   s16 c d8 bes c a bes s4 d8 s s4 d
> }
> III = \context Voice \relative c' {
>   \set Staff.midiInstrument = "harpsichord"
>   \offset
>   \stemUp g8\4 g16\4 a\3 bes\3 g\4 bes8\3 g4\4 g\4 fis8\4 s s s g4
>
>   r16 g d'8 r16 f, s8 g r16 f s8 g16 f f8\4 bes g c a\4
>
>   g8. s s s s a16 g8. fis16 g8 s16 c a d g,8 s
>
>   s4 bes8 a g4 a c bes16. c32 d16 bes
>
>   a4 s g s g8 s s s s s
>
>   s4. s4 ees'16 d c bes a s s4
>
>   s2 s4 g8 a f c'16 bes a8 a 4
> }
> IV = \context Voice \relative c' {
>   \set Staff.midiInstrument = "harpsichord"
>   \stemDown g,4\6 g8\6 g\6 g\6 g16\6 a\6 bes\6 g\6 bes\6 c\5 d8\5 d\5 ees\5 
> d16\5 bes\6 c8\5 c\5
>
>   g\6 r16 g\6 d'8 r16 c r16 g\6 d'8 r16 c r bes\6 s8 g'\4 ees c4
>
>   r16 g32\6 a\6 bes\6 c d16 ees c32 d ees f g16 a f32 g a bes c16 r bes,32\6 
> c d ees f16\5 s c d8 ees16 c g' c, d bes\6 c8 f16 bes\4
>
>   ees, bes\6 ees f g bes,\6 c d g,16.\6 a32\6 bes16\6 g\6 d'16. ees32 f16 d 
> c16. d32 ees16 c g8.\6 g16\6
>
>   d'8. d16 c16. d32 ees16 c g16.\6 a32\6 bes16\6 g\6 a\6 bes\6 c d g,\6 c b\6 
> c g8\6 c16 f\5 bes,\6 ees8 bes16\6
>
>   c d ees16. d32 c16 bes\6 g8\6 d' c16 d f g d8 g,4\6
>
>   a32\6 g\6 a16\6 g\6 d' ees8 c d bes\6 c a\6 bes\6 c d d g,4\6
> }
>
> \score {
>   <<
> \new TabStaff = "guitar tab" <<
>  \set TabStaff.stringTunings = #'(7 2 -3 -7 -12 -17)
>  %\set TabStaff.stringTunings = #'(7 2 -3)
>   %%\override TabStaff.Stem   #'transparent = ##t
>  

[LUTE] Re: was Galliard after Laveche (William Ballet Lute Book), now: scan vs camera

2008-12-07 Thread A.J. Padilla, M.D.
Many inexpensive document scanners can do microfilm and 35 mm negatives.
I have an old (old meaning about 3 years old) Epson Perfection-2400 (which,
I guess means it can scan @ 2400 dpi, more than you'll need).  It has a film
holder hidden inside the top cover.  You simply thread the film into the
holder set the software for "transmission" rather than "reflective" and scan
at whatever resolution you need.  I think it cost me US $75 or so.  Check
the Epson, Canon, Fujitsu or Dell websites.  The scanners all come with
limited but quite servicable software that's pretty much "Point & Grunt."
With Best wishes,
Al

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Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 4:24 PM
To: ml; List LUTELIST
Subject: [LUTE] Re: was Galliard after Laveche (William Ballet Lute Book),
now: scan vs camera

Dear Manolo,

I also thought of shooting the camera on one of those special screened 
microfilm readers.  I had one of the teepee type that I found at a 
used office equipment store, but it didn't work very well and took up 
space, so I trashed it.  And need something to replace it.  And the 
scanner might be a good substitute.  Anyway, there have been several 
useful suggestions.  I'll let you all know what works.

There are also services that will digitalize microfilms by the reel, 
but I do not know how much they charge.  Wouldn't it be wonderful to 
have the entire LSA MIcrofilm Library in digital format?
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Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 2:50 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: was Galliard after Laveche (William Ballet Lute 
Book), now: scan vs camera


another possibility of scanning microfilm: making a photography of it
with a digital camera.
I imagine that it would not be that difficult to arrange a
"reprography stage" using:
1. a negative holder recycled from an old analog photographic enlarger
for holding the microfilm flat, and at the same time framing it, so
that we see only the white light that illuminates the film from below,
and no light surrounds the film. The light coming from below
originates in
2. a small light table (those used for inspecting slides).
For holding the camera we need
3. a small tripod.
I would arrange everything vertically: on the lowest level the light
table, resting on it the negative holder with the microfilm, and above
everything the camera.
The only problem: we need a camera that can photograph a very small
area: 24 x 36 mm. But I'm sure on the market there must be many that
are able to do that.

The main difference between a scanner and this setup is speed. If many
"repros" had to be made this setup is not good, of course. But if you
have access to an old enlarger and a light table, why not use them for
photographing microfilms?

Saludos,

Manolo

Another way of doing the same would be using on a digital SLR those
cheap tubes for reproducing slides that exist since the analogic era.




El 06/12/2008, a las 17:52, Stuart Walsh escribió:

> Arthur Ness wrote:
>> Jean-Marie,
>>
>> Can you explain how you scan a microfilm?  That technique would be
>> very handy for many of us.
>>
>> Commercial microfilm scanners cost several thousands of dollars,
>> but I can use one at the library.
>>
>> Arthur.
>>
>>
>
> I use a very cheap slide scanner that I got years ago - a PrimeFilm
> 1800... absolutely the bottom of the market.  It is not very good
> for actual photographic slides but it's fine for microfilm. I  think
> you can get a cheap slide scanner for about £50 in Britain - so
> probably cheaper in USA. The scanner connects via USB.  It's a bit
> fiddly and slow but once you've got a scan you can clean it up. You
> can zoom in on details etc. And you have a permanent record of it.
>
> It doesn't work for every microfilm though: the de Gallot guitar MS
> is some kind of A4, portrait shape (I don't know the technical term)
> and it has been photographed in landscape format. So the top and
> bottom is chopped off.
>
>
> Stuart
>
>> =AJN (Boston, Mass.)=
>> This week's free download from Classical
>> Music Library is Berlioz's Overture to
>> "Benvenuto Cellini," performed by the
>> Orchestre National de Montpellier;
>> Lionel Arnaud, conductor. .
>>
>> To download, click on the CML link here
>> http://mysite.verizon.net/arthurjness/
>>
>>  My Web Page: Scores
>> http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepq31c/arthurjnesslutescores/
>> 

[LUTE] Best material for extending a string.

2008-12-07 Thread Herbert Ward

Suppose a string broke betwen the nut and the peg, so you needed an extension
to reach the peg.  What material would be best for the extension?



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[LUTE] Re: was Galliard after Laveche (William Ballet Lute Book), now: scan vs camera

2008-12-07 Thread Arthur Ness
Good morning, Nancy!

That's an interesting agrument you raise about the copyright. I must
really ask Charlotte to look into the matter.  There's lots of
information available from the Music Library Association, and several
years ago she took a mini-seminar on music copyright law for
librarians.  But she may not want to comment in public, since that
might be practicing law.

Josef Klima (d. in the 1970s? or '80s?) ran into trouble and was
blacklisted by several libraries in the U.,S. (and elsewhere?).  He
was selling copies of library microfilms from his Wiener Lautenarchiv,
and some U.S. music librarian heard about it.  At Klima's request, I 
tried to
get him off any blacklist, and approached the head of the Music 
Division
at the NYPL.  Suki Sommers, who was famed for her cheerful cordiality
and helpfulness, really flared up when I made the suggestion that he 
be
permitted to order microfilms. She may have thought he was making a
profit, and the LSA might avoid that by not charging.  Or use of the 
digital files limited to members only.

It was indeed the idea of the "creation" of a photograph that is
copyrightable, whereas
the object, _*published*_ long ago, is in the public domain according
to almost every country's copyright law.  This concept protects some
facsimile editions, as I understand.  Thus according to Swiss law,
Mrs. Minkoff can claim copyright not only for the photography but for
the work itself.  According to a notice** in her edition of the Siena
MS, it is illegal even to make a transcription using her
facsimile.  I think she takes advantage of Swiss laws that
were drawn up to protect their industry in publishing fine art books.
It is also possible that under Netherlands law, the manuscript is 
still
owned by the library in The Hague.  It is really a siruation so
complex that it's beyond a layperson.

According to some information an attorney posted to one of these
newsgroups, in the U.S. case law has overturned the idea of a
copyrightable photographic image of a puboic domain document.  The
making of a photograph of an
old book was not considered "creative" enough for copyright
protection.  And after all that's what the copyright law is all about,
to protect the work of a "creator," whether it be a photpgrapher
taking a picture of a sunset, or a composer like Ravel depicting in
music a sunrise.  And now there's some kind of copyeight dispurte over
Google Books, and that should set some precedents.

I hope this doesn;t mean we'll all now get into one of the usual
extended arguments about copyright law and fair use.  Nothing is ever
accomplished.

Of course, one could take the logical step and write to the libraries 
asking permission.

**Mrs. Minkoff's notice:

WARNING:
This publication is protected by Swiss law on copyright
Any reproduction or transcription--even partial--by any means
would constitute a counterfeiting punishable
by articles 42 ff of said law.
PHOTOCOPY PROHIBITED
=AJN (Boston, Mass.)=
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"Benvenuto Cellini," performed by the
Orchestre National de Montpellier;
Lionel Arnaud, conductor. .

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To: "List LUTELIST" 
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 12:30 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: was Galliard after Laveche (William Ballet Lute
Book), now: scan vs camera


|   I love the idea of the LSA Microfilm library being digital, but
wonder
|   if it will happen in my lifetime. There is considerable concern
that
|   the libraries that provided those microfilms (a lot of them to me
back
|   in the 70s when I was Microfilm Librarian) would go ballistic if
did
|   anything more than loan out our copies of the films.  From what I
|   understand they cannot own the copyrights on the original
materials
|   because they are so old, but they do own it on the photography.
|   Nancy
|
| I also thought of shooting the camera on one of those special
| screened
| microfilm readers.  I had one of the teepee type that I found at
a
| used office equipment store, but it didn't work very well and
took
| up
| space, so I trashed it.  And need something to replace it.  And
the
| scanner might be a good substitute.  Anyway, there have been
several
| useful suggestions.  I'll let you all know what works.
| There are also services that will digitalize microfilms by the
reel,
| but I do not know how much they charge.  Wouldn't it be
wonderful to
| have the entire LSA MIcrofilm Library in digital format?
| =AJN (Boston, Mass.)=
| This week's free download from Classical
| Music 

[LUTE] Re: Best material for extending a string.

2008-12-07 Thread Daniel Winheld
Usually I match like with like (gut/gut, nylon/nylon, etc.) but may 
go to stiffer, stronger, & if possible less stretchy material from 
nut to pegbox. Some players do this routinely to get two lengths out 
of a string, and some have done this precisely to make tuning faster 
& more sure with the less flexible material running form nut to 
pegbox. Braided fishing line can be good for this, but hard & 
slippery can be tough to tie- like polished nylon or carbon fiber; 
these can be roughened with sandpaper.

Dan

>Suppose a string broke betwen the nut and the peg, so you needed an extension
>to reach the peg.  What material would be best for the extension?

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[LUTE] Re: was Galliard after Laveche, now: scan vs camera

2008-12-07 Thread howard posner

On Dec 7, 2008, at 10:37 AM, Arthur Ness wrote:

> This concept protects some
> facsimile editions, as I understand.  Thus according to Swiss law,
> Mrs. Minkoff can claim copyright not only for the photography but for
> the work itself.  According to a notice** in her edition of the Siena
> MS, it is illegal even to make a transcription using her
> facsimile.  I think she takes advantage of Swiss laws that
> were drawn up to protect their industry in publishing fine art books.
> It is also possible that under Netherlands law, the manuscript is
> still
> owned by the library in The Hague.

It's also possible Mrs. Minkoff is puffing.  It doesn't cost her
anything to stake out an extravagant position.
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[LUTE] Re: Best material for extending a string.

2008-12-07 Thread Sean Smith


Ah, "leaders". I got to know these very well in my early lute days 
learning from Roger Harmon: A parsimonious master of careful string 
husbandry. This is another reason we NEVER throw out old strings, 
especially gut. Just find the closest in size to the broken string, 
bend them together, retune and voila da mano, Bob's your uncle. This 
also works for putting on new strings where they reach (or almost 
reach; this is an artform in itself) the nut but not enough to get a 
purchase on the peg. (Another trick is to wind the string on the peg 
while not going over the nut, ie going off to the side; you can get a 
just a few more cms that way. Soon as you get peg purchase, pull it 
onto the nut by hand)


I've been doing this for 30 years now and slowly revising my bag of 
tricks to stay one step ahead of string prices. Here are a few notes:


For a while I used rough hemp string for this but it's fallen out of 
favor as it looks like rats made a nest in the pegbox. But it works, 
doesn't stretch much and is cheap. Note that you can only use a hemp 
leader once --if it breaks it will have stressed some internal fibers 
more than others rendering it considerably weaker. Roger used to use 
standard kitchen string (it's real cheap!) but I didn't get the hang of 
it.


Attaching any two gut strings together is a snap (meaning "easy", :^). 
If either are nylgut it's a problem of trying to outsmart the 
slipperiness and its inherent weakness in tight bends. This is a little 
easier to do w/ NG strings larger than ~.50mm, ie, not a chanterelle or 
4th 8ve --for those I bite the bullet and go with a whole string. If 
you do have to bend them together you can burn a small ball onto the 
end of the nylgut as well so it won't eventually slip off the bitter 
end. Prayer helps.


Some further observations: I have never gotten a nylon leader to work 
w/ the chanterelle. NG leaders below ~.48mm are way too iffy. NG 
leaders in general are stretchy and difficult to work with. In a pinch 
fretgut works better. For a chanterelle try to use a slightly larger 
diameter leader than the string.


For tying two gut thin strings together, I go w/ this method:

Burn a ball onto both the string end and the leader end. Make loose 
overhand knot on the string end and pass the leader through it before 
pulling it tight as close to ball as possible. Tie another overhand 
knot on the leader also as close to the ball as possible.


If you are breaking strings here there there is a good possibility that 
your problem is NOT in the string, ie DO NOT assume it's a string 
problem. So I can't emphasize enough: keep your nuts healthy!


1. No sharp edges, especially the very last part where it leaves the 
nut to the peg. If there is any kind of angle where the string leaves 
the final flat surface to go to the peg it will put undo tension on the 
underside of the string. If it is a NG it will use this to weaken the 
string and you will be reminded of this weakness about 1/8 of a turn 
before it reaches full tension. The certainty increases with the number 
of spare strings you posess.


2. Make sure the channel is round and the diameter is larger than the 
string. If it is good now DO NOT assume it will stay that way forever. 
It may deteriorate quicker for synthetic strings and metal wound 
strings and also if you change diameters. ymmv.


3. Lubrication helps immensely. Graphite may last a little longer than 
beeswax but beeswax is invisible. If, when you incrementally turn the 
peg, it shoots past the pitch you want then you need lube. Please, 
please, please, set your, your bandmates' and your audience's, minds at 
ease w/ this simple remedy. One more little trick: While grossly tuning 
up a new string, set it outside the channel and when it's a semitone or 
two away from designated pitch, put a little lube in the channel (and 
if beeswax, rub a little on the underside of the string just south of 
the nut) and then drop the string into the groove.


If you are using your last NG or chanterelle, you may want to leave a 
little extra string beyond the bridge so that, if it breaks between the 
nut and the peg you still have a little more string to work with. When 
you feel confident THEN clip off the remainder.



Ok, as usual Herbert asks a good simple hypothetical question and I 
write a novel. I'm sure there are many people w/ more practical 
experience than I on this list. I would love to hear about your 
observances in this area!


cheers,
Sean


On Dec 7, 2008, at 10:24 AM, Herbert Ward wrote:



Suppose a string broke betwen the nut and the peg, so you needed an 
extension

to reach the peg.  What material would be best for the extension?



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[LUTE] Re: Best material for extending a string.

2008-12-07 Thread vance wood
A piece of an old string (the reason you save your old strings) or a piece 
of spare fret gut, or a piece of monofilament fishing line of appropriate 
dimension.  Tie end to end with a barrel knot, used in fishing.  I suppose 
there may be better methods but any port in a storm.
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From: "Herbert Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 1:24 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Best material for extending a string.




Suppose a string broke betwen the nut and the peg, so you needed an 
extension

to reach the peg.  What material would be best for the extension?



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[LUTE] [**spam**] Re: Best material for extending a string.

2008-12-07 Thread Christopher Stetson
I wouldn't know, my strings never seem to break in such a convenient location.  
Just lucky, I guess.
Best to all, and keep playing,
Chris.

>>> "vance wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/7/2008 6:40 PM >>>
A piece of an old string (the reason you save your old strings) or a piece 
of spare fret gut, or a piece of monofilament fishing line of appropriate 
dimension.  Tie end to end with a barrel knot, used in fishing.  I suppose 
there may be better methods but any port in a storm.
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> Suppose a string broke betwen the nut and the peg, so you needed an 
> extension
> to reach the peg.  What material would be best for the extension?
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[LUTE] Re: Lute spotting...

2008-12-07 Thread Andrew Gibbs
Doh!

I think Whisper of the Heart was released in 1998, I got around to
watching the DVD last night. I should have guessed that in the
intervening decade someone on this list would have beaten me to the
spotting. All prize monies to Peter Hoar.



On 7 Dec 2008, at 10:29, G. Crona wrote:

> Recycling Andrew?


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[LUTE] Re: Lute spotting...

2008-12-07 Thread Sean Smith


There is a wonderful precedent of reworking decades old songs into new 
pieces for lute. It's fascinating to watch this tradition continue in 
our time.


Thanks for (re)spotting it, Andrew. I enjoyed it very much.

Sean


On Dec 7, 2008, at 4:20 PM, Andrew Gibbs wrote:


Doh!

I think Whisper of the Heart was released in 1998, I got around to
watching the DVD last night. I should have guessed that in the
intervening decade someone on this list would have beaten me to the
spotting. All prize monies to Peter Hoar.



On 7 Dec 2008, at 10:29, G. Crona wrote:


Recycling Andrew?



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[LUTE] Re: Lute spotting...

2008-12-07 Thread Andrew Gibbs

Thanks Steve - I guess the curve was another clue I should have noticed.

On my crappy TV I can't really hear if the instruments on the  
soundtrack are the ones shown in the animation - I'd like to think so...



On 7 Dec 2008, at 02:54, Steve Ramey wrote:

...the instrument that follows the tambourine is variously known as  
a cornett, cornetto, or krummer zink.  It has a tiny, trumpet-like  
mouthpiece, not the double reed a shawm would have.  It has holes  
like a recorder and is often played off to one side of the player's  
embochure, just as the animation shows.




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