[LUTE] Comma, again
Dear Collected Wisdom, the John Sturt lute ms. (London BM 38539) contains an almayne by Robert Johnson on fol. 20v (named Hit and Take It, according to ed. Albert Sunderman). There are three ornaments, viz. simple cross, double cross, and comma, each set to the left of the related letter. Now, if + is a fall (Martin) or a dissonance (Stewart), # is a shake = mordent or upper mordent (Stewart), then what does that comma mean? -- Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: ReFrets
Thanks for everybody. I'll carry on my fretting experiences... -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre painting an angelique?
CD Title: "The Loss of the Golden Rose Lute" F. Edgar Gilbert, "Independent Artist Guild- Panegyrick" 1997 Plays an Angelique built by Mark Butler in 1984, Harrogate, after an original by Joachim Tielke, Hamburg, 1704. It's a mixed programme, using an 11 course French lute (also by Mark Butler, after Andreas Berr, 1699) & angelique- includes music by Ennemond & Denis Gautier, Jaques de Gallot, Claude Emond, Charles Mouton, Francois Couperin, and Christian de Bethune. The Bethune & Emond are played rather well on the angelique, ravishing kind of sound. The French lute sounds like there are recording/response issues with the lute and/or the strings, but he seems like a fine performer. No idea on the distribution, currency, or availability of this CD- found it used last year. Dan >if memory serves, I remember someone in the List some years ago claimed >that the painting by Laurent de La Hyre could be - or is definitely? - >an angelique, lute tuned in seconds - like a diatonic harp. Any opinions >or comments? > >And is there any lutenist, who actually has stringed and tuned his/her >lute to the angelique tuning and played the music to that tuning? Any >comments of the usefulness and quality of the tuning? And of the quality >of the music to that tuning? -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: ReFrets
Thank you David! What a difference, when your professional life actually depends on detailed understanding of your instruments, vs - I LIKE IT THIS WAY, THEREFORE IT IS THIS WAY. alexander On Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:05:50 -0800 David Tayler wrote: > There are advantages and disadvantages to thick and thin frets. Too > thick or too thin not good. Try not to go over 105. > The overall action can be made lower by using thinner frets, despite > the absurdity of the idea, it really is true. Also, on my lutes, > thinner frets--up to a point--produce a better sound. > If the frets are too thick they play less well in tune, however, for > most people that is not an issue. > If they are too thin the string is not pressed enough. > It also depends on the setup of the instrument. > One the theorbo, when the instrument is new you may use thick to > thin, in middle age, medium all the way, and in older theorbo age, > the reverse, so that the action stays the same without a replane. > In this way fretology recapitulates stringology. > dt > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre painting an angelique?
13c. angelique? The most popular were 15-17 c. JL - Original Message - From: "Anthony Hind" To: "lute List" Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:11 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre painting an angelique? Ed I forgot to send this to the whole list. I rather like this record, but it is now very difficult to find. You can see the tittles at the link below. Perhaps it can be found second hand. I also like this de Visée recording http://tinyurl.com/apg537 There was a thread about this topic on the French lute list very recently. http://fr.groups.yahoo.com/group/Le_luth/message/8993 Carlos Gonzales lute maker wrote a text which accompanies the recording about the Angélique. http://fr.groups.yahoo.com/group/Le_luth/message/9018 http://tinyurl.com/5jtkqq Andreas Schlegel seems to be researching this question also Anthony Le 4 mars 09 ŕ 22:30, Rob MacKillop a écrit : There is a very famous Spanish lute/guitar player whose name has embarrasingly disappeared from my brain, who has recorded a CD of angelique music on the glossa label. Moreno! There you are! Rob 2009/3/4 <[1]wi...@cs.helsinki.fi> Lutenists, if memory serves, I remember someone in the List some years ago claimed that the painting by Laurent de La Hyre could be - or is definitely? - an angelique, lute tuned in seconds - like a diatonic harp. Any opinions or comments? And is there any lutenist, who actually has stringed and tuned his/her lute to the angelique tuning and played the music to that tuning? Any comments of the usefulness and quality of the tuning? And of the quality of the music to that tuning? Cheers, Arto To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:wi...@cs.helsinki.fi 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre painting an angelique?
Ed I forgot to send this to the whole list. I rather like this record, but it is now very difficult to find. You can see the tittles at the link below. Perhaps it can be found second hand. I also like this de Visée recording http://tinyurl.com/apg537 There was a thread about this topic on the French lute list very recently. http://fr.groups.yahoo.com/group/Le_luth/message/8993 Carlos Gonzales lute maker wrote a text which accompanies the recording about the Angélique. http://fr.groups.yahoo.com/group/Le_luth/message/9018 http://tinyurl.com/5jtkqq Andreas Schlegel seems to be researching this question also Anthony Le 4 mars 09 à 22:30, Rob MacKillop a écrit : >There is a very famous Spanish lute/guitar player whose name has >embarrasingly disappeared from my brain, who has recorded a CD of >angelique music on the glossa label. Moreno! There you are! > > > >Rob > >2009/3/4 <[1]wi...@cs.helsinki.fi> > > Lutenists, > if memory serves, I remember someone in the List some years ago > claimed > that the painting by Laurent de La Hyre could be - or is > definitely? > - > an angelique, lute tuned in seconds - like a diatonic harp. Any > opinions > or comments? > And is there any lutenist, who actually has stringed and tuned > his/her > lute to the angelique tuning and played the music to that tuning? > Any > comments of the usefulness and quality of the tuning? And of the > quality > of the music to that tuning? > Cheers, > Arto > To get on or off this list see list information at > [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > >-- > > References > >1. mailto:wi...@cs.helsinki.fi >2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > --
