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[LUTE] Anyone else who can't get to the tab files?
I keep getting the "internal server error" message. I'm guessing the server is down? -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Francesco and flat back lute?
Not quite Italian, but here is as affordable a rebuild of an odd German-made vihuela from a few decades ago incorporating a slightly curved pegbox: http://www.neallutes.com/2009/09/vihuela-for-eugene-eugene-brought-me.html I keep the bass courses in octave to be a little more "Italianate." Enjoy, Eugene > -Original Message- > From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On > Behalf Of wikla > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 4:04 PM > To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Francesco and flat back lute? > > Thanks Daniel and Edward, > > I know that only very few Spanish vihuelas exists today. Did any Italian > version manage to survive? And has any modern luthier tried to recreate > those Italian "hand violas"? > > Arto > > > On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:54:31 -0500, Edward Martin > wrote: > > Arto, > > > > The 1536 edition of Farancesco's works state that the pieces in this > > book are for liuto or viola. The reference to viola is viola da > > mano, which is essentially a vihuela da mano. There is a > > Raimondi engraving of a player of the viola da mano, in which the > > instrument resembles a vihuela da mano, with exception that the peg > > head was of the sickle design. It is standard thought these days > > that the Italian version may have had the sickle design. Otherwise, > > the viola in reference is one and the same as our concept of the > vihuela. > > > > ed > > > > > > > > At 02:20 PM 8/17/2010, wikla wrote: > >>Dear lutenists, > >> > >>didn't Francesco da Milano play also a flat back lute, "viola" or > >>something > >>like that. Perhaps the Neapolitian tabulature was connected to that > >>instrument? > >> > >>Years ago there was some discussion also here, if memory serves..., not > >>often does, though... ;-) > >> > >>But what is the latest "educated guess" (=science) of his flat back > lute? > >>Any recent analysis? > >> > >>Arto > >> > >> > >> > >>To get on or off this list see list information at > >>http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > > > > > Edward Martin > > 2817 East 2nd Street > > Duluth, Minnesota 55812 > > e-mail: e...@gamutstrings.com > > voice: (218) 728-1202 > > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1660298871&ref=name > > http://www.myspace.com/edslute
[LUTE] Re: Francesco and flat back lute?
wikla wrote: Thanks Daniel and Edward, I know that only very few Spanish vihuelas exists today. Did any Italian version manage to survive? And has any modern luthier tried to recreate those Italian "hand violas"? Arto Alexander Batov has. http://www.vihuelademano.com/index.html And here also: http://www.anselmus.ch/fr/guitares/guitare_general.htm#signet_01 The violas with deeply incurved sides look very attractive I think. Stuart On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:54:31 -0500, Edward Martin wrote: Arto, The 1536 edition of Farancesco's works state that the pieces in this book are for liuto or viola. The reference to viola is viola da mano, which is essentially a vihuela da mano. There is a Raimondi engraving of a player of the viola da mano, in which the instrument resembles a vihuela da mano, with exception that the peg head was of the sickle design. It is standard thought these days that the Italian version may have had the sickle design. Otherwise, the viola in reference is one and the same as our concept of the vihuela. ed At 02:20 PM 8/17/2010, wikla wrote: Dear lutenists, didn't Francesco da Milano play also a flat back lute, "viola" or something like that. Perhaps the Neapolitian tabulature was connected to that instrument? Years ago there was some discussion also here, if memory serves..., not often does, though... ;-) But what is the latest "educated guess" (=science) of his flat back lute? Any recent analysis? Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Edward Martin 2817 East 2nd Street Duluth, Minnesota 55812 e-mail: e...@gamutstrings.com voice: (218) 728-1202 http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1660298871&ref=name http://www.myspace.com/edslute
[LUTE] Re: Francesco and flat back lute?
Dear Arto, I have never heard of a surviving example of a viola da mano, but Stephen Barber & Sandi Harris make a very convincing recreation of the viola da mano based on the Raimondi engraving. What struck me most about playing one of these instruments was its remarkable clarity of sound - in some ways better than a lute for playing polyphony because of the evenness of colour across its range. If the historical originals sounded that way I can understand why Francesco would have liked them. Best wishes, Denys -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of wikla Sent: 17 August 2010 21:04 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Francesco and flat back lute? Thanks Daniel and Edward, I know that only very few Spanish vihuelas exists today. Did any Italian version manage to survive? And has any modern luthier tried to recreate those Italian "hand violas"? Arto On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:54:31 -0500, Edward Martin wrote: > Arto, > > The 1536 edition of Farancesco's works state that the pieces in this > book are for liuto or viola. The reference to viola is viola da > mano, which is essentially a vihuela da mano. There is a > Raimondi engraving of a player of the viola da mano, in which the > instrument resembles a vihuela da mano, with exception that the peg > head was of the sickle design. It is standard thought these days > that the Italian version may have had the sickle design. Otherwise, > the viola in reference is one and the same as our concept of the vihuela. > > ed > > > > At 02:20 PM 8/17/2010, wikla wrote: >>Dear lutenists, >> >>didn't Francesco da Milano play also a flat back lute, "viola" or >>something >>like that. Perhaps the Neapolitian tabulature was connected to that >>instrument? >> >>Years ago there was some discussion also here, if memory serves..., not >>often does, though... ;-) >> >>But what is the latest "educated guess" (=science) of his flat back lute? >>Any recent analysis? >> >>Arto >> >> >> >>To get on or off this list see list information at >>http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > Edward Martin > 2817 East 2nd Street > Duluth, Minnesota 55812 > e-mail: e...@gamutstrings.com > voice: (218) 728-1202 > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1660298871&ref=name > http://www.myspace.com/edslute
[LUTE] Re: Francesco and flat back lute?
Thanks Daniel and Edward, I know that only very few Spanish vihuelas exists today. Did any Italian version manage to survive? And has any modern luthier tried to recreate those Italian "hand violas"? Arto On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:54:31 -0500, Edward Martin wrote: > Arto, > > The 1536 edition of Farancesco's works state that the pieces in this > book are for liuto or viola. The reference to viola is viola da > mano, which is essentially a vihuela da mano. There is a > Raimondi engraving of a player of the viola da mano, in which the > instrument resembles a vihuela da mano, with exception that the peg > head was of the sickle design. It is standard thought these days > that the Italian version may have had the sickle design. Otherwise, > the viola in reference is one and the same as our concept of the vihuela. > > ed > > > > At 02:20 PM 8/17/2010, wikla wrote: >>Dear lutenists, >> >>didn't Francesco da Milano play also a flat back lute, "viola" or >>something >>like that. Perhaps the Neapolitian tabulature was connected to that >>instrument? >> >>Years ago there was some discussion also here, if memory serves..., not >>often does, though... ;-) >> >>But what is the latest "educated guess" (=science) of his flat back lute? >>Any recent analysis? >> >>Arto >> >> >> >>To get on or off this list see list information at >>http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > Edward Martin > 2817 East 2nd Street > Duluth, Minnesota 55812 > e-mail: e...@gamutstrings.com > voice: (218) 728-1202 > http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1660298871&ref=name > http://www.myspace.com/edslute
[LUTE] Re: Francesco and flat back lute?
Arto, The 1536 edition of Farancesco's works state that the pieces in this book are for liuto or viola. The reference to viola is viola da mano, which is essentially a vihuela da mano. There is a Raimondi engraving of a player of the viola da mano, in which the instrument resembles a vihuela da mano, with exception that the peg head was of the sickle design. It is standard thought these days that the Italian version may have had the sickle design. Otherwise, the viola in reference is one and the same as our concept of the vihuela. ed At 02:20 PM 8/17/2010, wikla wrote: >Dear lutenists, > >didn't Francesco da Milano play also a flat back lute, "viola" or something >like that. Perhaps the Neapolitian tabulature was connected to that >instrument? > >Years ago there was some discussion also here, if memory serves..., not >often does, though... ;-) > >But what is the latest "educated guess" (=science) of his flat back lute? >Any recent analysis? > >Arto > > > >To get on or off this list see list information at >http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Edward Martin 2817 East 2nd Street Duluth, Minnesota 55812 e-mail: e...@gamutstrings.com voice: (218) 728-1202 http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1660298871&ref=name http://www.myspace.com/edslute
[LUTE] Francesco and flat back lute?
Dear lutenists, didn't Francesco da Milano play also a flat back lute, "viola" or something like that. Perhaps the Neapolitian tabulature was connected to that instrument? Years ago there was some discussion also here, if memory serves..., not often does, though... ;-) But what is the latest "educated guess" (=science) of his flat back lute? Any recent analysis? Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Ms 1511b
On 17 August 2010 20:13, Matteo Turri wrote: > [1]http://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc4004/ > > It doesn't answer your message, but while browsing for 1511b I have > found this thesis: Thanks, Matteo, it does answer my questions, as it has all the music, and that's good enough for me for now. David -- *** David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] [Lute] digital copy of the Vaudry de Saizenay Ms
I gather it is possible to get a CD copy of the Saizenay Ms from the Besançon Library. I tried but failed miserably. If anyone has succeeded, would they please let me know how they did it,please? thanks Charles Browne To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Ms 1511b
Sorry, here is the link: [1]http://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc4004/ It doesn't answer your message, but while browsing for 1511b I have found this thesis: Mus. Ms. 1511b: A Historical Review of a Lute Manuscript in the Herwarth Collection at the Bavarian Library, Munich It can be downloaded by clicking on the image. Matteo On 17 August 2010 18:26, Suzanne Angevine <[1][2]suzanne.angev...@gmail.com> wrote: Does anyone know if this manuscript (Ms. 1511b) in the Bavarian State Library is available in facsimile, in microfilm, or on line somewhere? I have found the modern edition done by Douglas William Beasley for a masters thesis at the University of Northern Texas. But I would like to see something of the original myself. Thanks. Suzanne To get on or off this list see list information at [2][3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:[4]suzanne.angev...@gmail.com 2. [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References Visible links 1. http://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc4004/ 2. mailto:suzanne.angev...@gmail.com 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 4. mailto:suzanne.angev...@gmail.com 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Hidden links: 6. http://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc4004/
[LUTE] Re: Ms 1511b
It doesn't answer your message, but while browsing for 1511b I have found this thesis: Mus. Ms. 1511b: A Historical Review of a Lute Manuscript in the Herwarth Collection at the Bavarian Library, Munich It can be downloaded by clicking on the image. Matteo On 17 August 2010 18:26, Suzanne Angevine <[1]suzanne.angev...@gmail.com> wrote: Does anyone know if this manuscript (Ms. 1511b) in the Bavarian State Library is available in facsimile, in microfilm, or on line somewhere? I have found the modern edition done by Douglas William Beasley for a masters thesis at the University of Northern Texas. But I would like to see something of the original myself. Thanks. Suzanne To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:suzanne.angev...@gmail.com 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Ms 1511b
What a coincidence. Today I was looking into Gorzanis and wanted to know exactly the same about Ms. 1511a. But Ms. 1511a at least has a modern edition. David On 17 August 2010 18:26, Suzanne Angevine wrote: > Does anyone know if this manuscript (Ms. 1511b) in the Bavarian State > Library is available in facsimile, in microfilm, or on line somewhere? I > have found the modern edition done by Douglas William Beasley for a masters > thesis at the University of Northern Texas. But I would like to see > something of the original myself. Thanks. > > Suzanne > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > -- *** David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl ***
[LUTE] Ms 1511b
Does anyone know if this manuscript (Ms. 1511b) in the Bavarian State Library is available in facsimile, in microfilm, or on line somewhere? I have found the modern edition done by Douglas William Beasley for a masters thesis at the University of Northern Texas. But I would like to see something of the original myself. Thanks. Suzanne To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] anonym (Bay. Staatsbibliothek Mus Ms. 271) - Mamie un jour (Pierre Certon)
hi, I have uploaded a new Lute Duet for 2 equal lutes. anon (Bay. Staatsbibliothek Mus Ms. 271) - Mamie un jour (Pierre Certon) hereby I would like to present my first Intavolation for 2 lutes , where the first lute was written original for 2 lutes and the 2nd lute was added by me in old lute-intavolation tradition because of the missing original. It became a very noble Intavolation and I am pleased to make these accessible to the lute players. Enjoy it. Listen to the mp3 file-it is a world premiere recording! :-) Anton I hope to hear this wunderful music in natura! -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Schmid d. Ä. - Lasso-Bon jour mon cuer
Hi, I have uploaded a new Lute Duet ad Secundam Schmid d. Ä. - Lasso-Bon jour mon cuer It is a very fine Intavolation. Enjoy Anton To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: background music
Hi David, I hope you have amplification, unless it's a very small number of people. When they're talking, they're shouting their heads off so they can be heard over the general din, and when they're eating, they're smashing knives and forks against plates - concerto for stainless steel, ceramics and (inaudible) lute. They might even bang their wine glasses together in their enthusiasm. No wonder Mersenne called one of his ornaments "verre casse" (that's an e acute at the end). Good luck, Martin David van Ooijen wrote: All Coming Saturday I am to play for two hours during a dinner. The request was for early-Baroque dance music, but I think that can be interpreted as anything between 1500 and 1700 of a lively nature. I'll bring a pile of music, so no fear of silence - and I can improvise music of a lively nature for hours on end - but could people with some experience in this sort of thing tell me what they usually play? Ideally I'd just put one or two books on my music stand and play through these. I'll now walk to my music shelves and see with what sort of one-stop solution I can come up with, but I'm sure some of you will be even faster. ;-) David - lively by nature To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
