[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: D# Minor Suite
Hi all! I may be misremembering but I'm fairly sure I recollect a talk at the UK Lute Society many years ago given by a (then) young Scandinavian about some Baroque lute music in a very unusual key. As I recall he was adamant that the key was not Eb but D#. Perhaps he was the person who wrote the article. Maybe Chris Goodwin of the UK Lute Society could help? Yes, I read a dissertation by a Swedish guy about this manuscript. It also contains a suite in G# major/Ab major, recorded by Thomas Schall, and an intabulation of an opera aria by an italian who lived in Sweden in the mid 18th century. The Ab major suite sounds like it might have been composed by a less talented follower of Weiss... I seem to recall the author claiming that D.A. Smith first thought the suite in Eb minor to be by Weiss, but that he later changed his mind. So maybe it was Falckenhagen? Or Lauffensteiner? Or...? Are To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] diatessaron/diapente
Dear friends, In the Supplement to LUTE NEWS 99 there is a second part of Bach Suite bwv1006a intabulated by Wilfred Foxe. It is presented here in a key of D major, quite unusually. In the Critical Commentary Wilfred Foxe explains: The tonality of the original suite is E major, and this has been transposed by a major second to D major. The Weiss Sonata 18 in D Major provides a useful structural example since the work makes use of the diatessaron above the diapente for a work with a high tessitura. In other of Weiss's sonatas with a high tessitura, such as Le fameaux corsaire -- Sonata 22 in F Major, the diatessaron is not employed. The fact that the same exists in BWV 1006a is the principal reason for adopting D major in preference to F major. I understand what means diatessaron and diapente in Greek, as applied to historical music theory, but still I understand nothing from Wilfred's explanation. Can someone enlighten me on this? Jurek --- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: diatessaron/diapente
I was going to ask the same thing! But never mind Greek. What does 'diatessaron above the diapente' mean in English? Rob On 30 October 2011 15:26, Jerzy Zak [1]jurek...@gmail.com wrote: Dear friends, In the Supplement to LUTE NEWS 99 there is a second part of Bach Suite bwv1006a intabulated by Wilfred Foxe. It is presented here in a key of D major, quite unusually. In the Critical Commentary Wilfred Foxe explains: The tonality of the original suite is E major, and this has been transposed by a major second to D major. The Weiss Sonata 18 in D Major provides a useful structural example since the work makes use of the diatessaron above the diapente for a work with a high tessitura. In other of Weiss's sonatas with a high tessitura, such as Le fameaux corsaire -- Sonata 22 in F Major, the diatessaron is not employed. The fact that the same exists in BWV 1006a is the principal reason for adopting D major in preference to F major. I understand what means diatessaron and diapente in Greek, as applied to historical music theory, but still I understand nothing from Wilfred's explanation. Can someone enlighten me on this? Jurek --- To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:jurek...@gmail.com 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: diatessaron/diapente
On 30/10/2011 10:11 AM, Rob MacKillop wrote: I was going to ask the same thing! But never mind Greek. What does 'diatessaron above the diapente' mean in English? Literally a fourth above a fifth. It doesn't make much sense to me either - wouldn't that be an octave? stephen To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: diatessaron/diapente
As I have an e-mail address for Wilfred and was at a meeting with him yesterday I have forwarded this message to him and asked him if he can explain a bit more. I am curious too because I used to play this suite on the violin. (sounds much better like that too). I will let you all know if he replies. Monica - Original Message - From: Rob MacKillop robmackil...@gmail.com To: Jerzy Zak jurek...@gmail.com Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 5:11 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: diatessaron/diapente I was going to ask the same thing! But never mind Greek. What does 'diatessaron above the diapente' mean in English? Rob On 30 October 2011 15:26, Jerzy Zak [1]jurek...@gmail.com wrote: Dear friends, In the Supplement to LUTE NEWS 99 there is a second part of Bach Suite bwv1006a intabulated by Wilfred Foxe. It is presented here in a key of D major, quite unusually. In the Critical Commentary Wilfred Foxe explains: The tonality of the original suite is E major, and this has been transposed by a major second to D major. The Weiss Sonata 18 in D Major provides a useful structural example since the work makes use of the diatessaron above the diapente for a work with a high tessitura. In other of Weiss's sonatas with a high tessitura, such as Le fameaux corsaire -- Sonata 22 in F Major, the diatessaron is not employed. The fact that the same exists in BWV 1006a is the principal reason for adopting D major in preference to F major. I understand what means diatessaron and diapente in Greek, as applied to historical music theory, but still I understand nothing from Wilfred's explanation. Can someone enlighten me on this? Jurek --- To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:jurek...@gmail.com 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Ballo Ruteno XVIII
http://torban.org/balli/images/balloR18.mp3 http://torban.org/balli/images/balloR18.pdf RT http://torban.org/balli/images/ballo351.mp3 http://torban.org/balli/images/ballo351.pdf RT http://torban.org/balli/images/ballo350.mp3 http://torban.org/balli/images/ballo350.pdf Enjoy. Amitiés, RT http://torban.org/balli/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
