[LUTE] Re: gut string, Petition, period colons etc.

2011-11-23 Thread Garry Warber
Perhaps if you intestine-twiddlers would give a listen to this you may amend 
your aberrant ways:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YxVzNZVflL8

I hope I have the link right... :-)
Garry


-Original Message- 
From: A.J. Padilla MD

Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:07 PM
To: 'corvo di bassetto' ; 'Lute List'
Subject: [LUTE] Re: gut string, Petition, period colons etc.

I had considered suggesting we make strings from politician guts instead,
but alas, I assume that in Europe they're as gutless as they are here in the
US.
AJP

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of corvo di bassetto
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:53 PM
To: Lute List
Subject: [LUTE] Re: gut string, Petition, period colons etc.

Dear luters in the authentic gutter,

I wrote to Nick Baldock (Kathedrale) some days ago asking him for a
statement; no reply so far (maybe he strangled himself in despair with his
last gut; or maybe he fell victim to the prions).
Yet my butcher told me, sausages in beef gut are still available (in
Germany). These sausages figure prominently in the morbid food rites of the
local savages. They are so unbelievably vile that mad cow disease will
actually relieve the suffering of those who ate them, hence the exception to
the EU law.

I changed to silk strings for the upper registers years ago and still play
many of Baldock's large intestines now 8–10 years old on lutes and viols; we
once joked about the future in which luters shunning anachronisms will have
to resort to sausage casings for strings…

Best regards
danyel


Am 21.11.2011 um 18:55 schrieb Anthony Hind:


Dear Martyn
   I am grateful to Charles Besnainou (who is a French research person on

strings of all sorts) for helping me to understand this situation a little
better.

Charles learnt gut string making from Sofracob, and he had an excellent

relation with its director M. Lenoble.

He tells me that far from closing because he wasn't making enough profit,

M. Lenoble actually returned to direct the company after retirement just to
try to steer it out of debt. He was proud to have managed to close without
owing anything. Although he was very sad to have closed a company that once
had 150 workers.

%
Charles also tells me that the problem would be exactly the same for

Sofracob at the moment if they still existed.

%
Perhaps, one thing he told me clarifies how it could be that these

rulings for BSE could have been extended to musical string making.

In fact, Sofracob also made medical catgut, and of course this would be

directly in contact with the inside of the body (whereas musical gut usually
remains outside, except possibly if you were to lick it before passing it
through the bridge).

I am not certain about that, but it seems logically possible, that the

ruling was for both surgical and musical strings treated together. The
ruling was against Prions, and of course sheep gut can also contain Prions
(from Scrapes), so I assume it applied to all gut types.

%

I appologise for not being able to give legal interpretations of the BSE

rulings. I did read some of them, but am no legal eagle.

I am myself struggling to understand the issues.
%
I don't think it would be advisable to make any specific statements about

which string makers might be more in danger.

This would only plunge them into more difficulty (hopefully, none ar at

risk right now).


%
I am certainly not in favour of taking risks with BSE, but, as I said

above, I can only understand the exaggerated application of these rules to
string making by its historical association with surgical gut. I believe
there is no more surgical gut in the EU, so it would seem time to loosen
these applications.

However, if you read the petition, it is suggested that health specialists

be involved with altering the application of these rules.

Best regards
Anthony




De : Martyn Hodgson  À :
"lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" ; Anthony Hind
 Envoyé le : Lundi 21 Novembre 2011 12h55 Objet
: [LUTE] Re: gut string, Petition etc.


   Thank you for this Anthony,

   I am not particularly sceptical but, like some others, find a certain
   lack of clarity in the position.

   Your description of how and why Sofracob went out of business is that
   they 'could no longer source sufficient raw gut' not that they were
   unable to source raw gut at all. The implication from your other recent
   mailings is that this was because the EU regulations had reduced if not
   entirely eliminated their ability to source raw gut. But I had earlier
   believed that Sofracob's decision was purely commercial - on the
   grounds of reduced profit margins  - perhaps by having to pay more
to

'source sufficient raw gut'.  Maybe the same considerations apply to
   Aquila?


Regarding BSE, perhaps there is a case to only source safely produced
   gut (if not for the players then for the workers who handle the
   product). Certainly a

[LUTE] Re: gut string, Petition, period colons etc.

2011-11-23 Thread William Samson
   'Intestine-twiddlers' forsooth, Sirrah?!?!?!
   More than one way to skin (gut?) a cat, eh?
   I love this one - The most extreme tempering of frets I've ever seen.
   8O
   [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO_jpR04Hfo
   If you look closely he's using nails.  Multiple heresies going on here,
   though nails are supposed to be OK with theorboes.
   Must say I'm a huge admirer of all his stuff - though I've no plans to
   go over to the dark side myself (yet).
   Bill
   From: Garry Warber 
   To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   Sent: Wednesday, 23 November 2011, 9:14
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: gut string, Petition, period colons etc.
   Perhaps if you intestine-twiddlers would give a listen to this you may
   amend
   your aberrant ways:
   [2]http://youtube.com/watch?v=YxVzNZVflL8
   I hope I have the link right... :-)
   Garry
   -Original Message-
   From: A.J. Padilla MD
   Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:07 PM
   To: 'corvo di bassetto' ; 'Lute List'
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: gut string, Petition, period colons etc.
   I had considered suggesting we make strings from politician guts
   instead,
   but alas, I assume that in Europe they're as gutless as they are here
   in the
   US.
   AJP
   -Original Message-
   From: [3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   [mailto:[4]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
   Of corvo di bassetto
   Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:53 PM
   To: Lute List
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: gut string, Petition, period colons etc.
   Dear luters in the authentic gutter,
   I wrote to Nick Baldock (Kathedrale) some days ago asking him for a
   statement; no reply so far (maybe he strangled himself in despair with
   his
   last gut; or maybe he fell victim to the prions).
   Yet my butcher told me, sausages in beef gut are still available (in
   Germany). These sausages figure prominently in the morbid food rites of
   the
   local savages. They are so unbelievably vile that mad cow disease will
   actually relieve the suffering of those who ate them, hence the
   exception to
   the EU law.
   I changed to silk strings for the upper registers years ago and still
   play
   many of Baldock's large intestines now 8aEUR"10 years old on lutes and
   viols; we
   once joked about the future in which luters shunning anachronisms will
   have
   to resort to sausage casings for stringsaEUR|
   Best regards
   danyel
   Am 21.11.2011 um 18:55 schrieb Anthony Hind:
   > Dear Martyn
   >I am grateful to Charles Besnainou (who is a French research
   person on
   strings of all sorts) for helping me to understand this situation a
   little
   better.
   > Charles learnt gut string making from Sofracob, and he had an
   excellent
   relation with its director M. Lenoble.
   > He tells me that far from closing because he wasn't making enough
   profit,
   M. Lenoble actually returned to direct the company after retirement
   just to
   try to steer it out of debt. He was proud to have managed to close
   without
   owing anything. Although he was very sad to have closed a company that
   once
   had 150 workers.
   > %
   > Charles also tells me that the problem would be exactly the same for
   Sofracob at the moment if they still existed.
   > %
   >Perhaps, one thing he told me clarifies how it could be that
   these
   rulings for BSE could have been extended to musical string making.
   > In fact, Sofracob also made medical catgut, and of course this would
   be
   directly in contact with the inside of the body (whereas musical gut
   usually
   remains outside, except possibly if you were to lick it before passing
   it
   through the bridge).
   > I am not certain about that, but it seems logically possible, that
   the
   ruling was for both surgical and musical strings treated together. The
   ruling was against Prions, and of course sheep gut can also contain
   Prions
   (from Scrapes), so I assume it applied to all gut types.
   > %
   >
   > I appologise for not being able to give legal interpretations of the
   BSE
   rulings. I did read some of them, but am no legal eagle.
   > I am myself struggling to understand the issues.
   > %
   > I don't think it would be advisable to make any specific statements
   about
   which string makers might be more in danger.
   > This would only plunge them into more difficulty (hopefully, none ar
   at
   risk right now).
   >
   > %
   > I am certainly not in favour of taking risks with BSE, but, as I said
   above, I can only understand the exaggerated application of these rules
   to
   string making by its historical association with surgical gut. I
   believe
   there is no more surgical gut in the EU, so it would seem time to
   loosen
   these applications.
   > However, if you read the petition, it is suggested that health
   specialists
   be involved with altering the application of these rules.
   > Best regards
   > Anthony
   >
   >
   >
   > 
   > De : Martyn Hodgson <[5]hodgsonmar..

[LUTE] Re: MIM's one lute

2011-11-23 Thread heiman.dan...@juno.com
Theo:

Thanks for bringing this museum to our attention.

Looks like they have a quite new and fancy building based on what we can see in 
the photo gallery.  Indeed if we are to judge from the photos, they are more 
proud of the building than they are of their collection.Interestingly, of 
the few musical instruments that are seen up close, a large majority are 
fretted plucked strings -- lutes by the organological definition -- and there 
is what appears to be a historical theorbo being poked at by one of the staff.

Regards,

Daniel
  
-- Original Message --
From: theoj89...@aol.com
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] MIM's one lute
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 15:02:47 -0500 (EST)




I just had the great pleasure of visiting MIM - the recently opened Musical 
Instrument Museum - in Phoenix, Arizona, USA. It is a beautiful and spacious 
museum. Music traditions from all around the world are displayed by region or 
country with authentic instruments and many fascinating field videos showing 
the amazing artistry and musical expression of our fellow humans of every 
culture. 


http://www.themim.org/



Although the museum has oodles of Ouds, and Guitars galore, they - sadly - have 
only one lone Lute on display: a 10 course lute made by Mathias Durvie, Paris, 
1974. It is ironic that there are many lutes in europe that remain in the 
museum storage rooms for lack of exhibit space, yet (although I cannot speak 
for the museum) MIM seem to have plenty of exhibit space... but only one lute :(

 

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[LUTE] Re: gut string, Petition, period colons etc.

2011-11-23 Thread Edward Mast
Said, I trust, with tongue firmly in cheek . . .
On Nov 23, 2011, at 4:14 AM, Garry Warber wrote:

> Perhaps if you intestine-twiddlers would give a listen to this you may amend 
> your aberrant ways:
> http://youtube.com/watch?v=YxVzNZVflL8
> 
> I hope I have the link right... :-)
> Garry
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[LUTE] Re: MIM's one lute

2011-11-23 Thread Nancy Carlin
   I ran into people from the MIM several years ago at a music conference.
   We discussed lutes, which they seemed to know nothing about, but they
   were very clear that they were happy to add lutes to their museum if I
   could find them some that would be donated.  They run an interesting
   world music concert series, but not early music as far as I know.
   Recently I got an email that they are currently looking for a new
   Executive Director, so perhaps their focus will change a bit.
   Nancy

 Thanks for bringing this museum to our attention.
 Looks like they have a quite new and fancy building based on what we
 can see in the photo gallery.  Indeed if we are to judge from the
 photos, they are more proud of the building than they are of their
 collection.Interestingly, of the few musical instruments that
 are seen up close, a large majority are fretted plucked strings --
 lutes by the organological definition -- and there is what appears
 to be a historical theorbo being poked at by one of the staff.
 Regards,
 Daniel

 -- Original Message --
 From: theoj89...@aol.com
 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 Subject: [LUTE] MIM's one lute
 Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 15:02:47 -0500 (EST)
 I just had the great pleasure of visiting MIM - the recently opened
 Musical Instrument Museum - in Phoenix, Arizona, USA. It is a
 beautiful and spacious museum. Music traditions from all around the
 world are displayed by region or country with authentic instruments
 and many fascinating field videos showing the amazing artistry and
 musical expression of our fellow humans of every culture.
 [1]http://www.themim.org/
 Although the museum has oodles of Ouds, and Guitars galore, they -
 sadly - have only one lone Lute on display: a 10 course lute made by
 Mathias Durvie, Paris, 1974. It is ironic that there are many lutes
 in europe that remain in the museum storage rooms for lack of
 exhibit space, yet (although I cannot speak for the museum) MIM seem
 to have plenty of exhibit space... but only one lute :(

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[LUTE] Re: Montserrat Figueras

2011-11-23 Thread Bruno Fournier
   Atlthough off topic, sad day for early music today, Monserat Figueras
   passed away.

   A

   Bruno Cognyl-Fournier

   Montreal

   A

   On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Edward Mast <[1]nedma...@aol.com>
   wrote:

 Said, I trust, with tongue firmly in cheek . . .

   On Nov 23, 2011, at 4:14 AM, Garry Warber wrote:
   > Perhaps if you intestine-twiddlers would give a listen to this you
   may amend your aberrant ways:

   > [2]http://youtube.com/watch?v=YxVzNZVflL8
   >
   > I hope I have the link right... :-)
   > Garry
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
   >
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   A

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   2. http://youtube.com/watch?v=YxVzNZVflL8
   3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   4. http://www.estavel.org/



[LUTE] Re: Montserrat Figueras

2011-11-23 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Alas!

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> -Original Message-
> From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On
> Behalf Of Bruno Fournier
> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 1:48 PM
> To: Edward Mast
> Cc: Garry Warber; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Montserrat Figueras
> 
>Atlthough off topic, sad day for early music today, Monserat Figueras
>passed away.
> 
>A
> 
>Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
> 
>Montreal
> 
>A
> 
>On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Edward Mast <[1]nedma...@aol.com>
>wrote:
> 
>  Said, I trust, with tongue firmly in cheek . . .
> 
>On Nov 23, 2011, at 4:14 AM, Garry Warber wrote:
>> Perhaps if you intestine-twiddlers would give a listen to this you
>may amend your aberrant ways:
> 
>> [2]http://youtube.com/watch?v=YxVzNZVflL8
>>
>> I hope I have the link right... :-)
>> Garry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> 
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>2. http://youtube.com/watch?v=YxVzNZVflL8
>3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>4. http://www.estavel.org/





[LUTE] Re: Montserrat Figueras

2011-11-23 Thread Edward Mast
Sad indeed - an exciting performer.
On Nov 23, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Bruno Fournier wrote:

> Atlthough off topic, sad day for early music today, Monserat Figueras passed 
> away.
>  
> Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
> Montreal
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[LUTE] Re: Montserrat Figueras

2011-11-23 Thread Monica Hall

Sad indeed.   she can't have been that old.

Monica

- Original Message - 
From: "Bruno Fournier" 

To: "Edward Mast" 
Cc: "Garry Warber" ; 
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 6:48 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Montserrat Figueras



  Atlthough off topic, sad day for early music today, Monserat Figueras
  passed away.

  A

  Bruno Cognyl-Fournier

  Montreal

  A

  On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Edward Mast <[1]nedma...@aol.com>
  wrote:

Said, I trust, with tongue firmly in cheek . . .

  On Nov 23, 2011, at 4:14 AM, Garry Warber wrote:
  > Perhaps if you intestine-twiddlers would give a listen to this you
  may amend your aberrant ways:

  > [2]http://youtube.com/watch?v=YxVzNZVflL8
  >
  > I hope I have the link right... :-)
  > Garry
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
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  2. http://youtube.com/watch?v=YxVzNZVflL8
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[LUTE] Re: Montserrat Figueras

2011-11-23 Thread howard posner

On Nov 23, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Monica Hall wrote:

> Sad indeed.   she can't have been that old.

She was 69



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[LUTE] TRe: Montserrat Figueras

2011-11-23 Thread Sauvage Valéry

This is a very sad day...
A most beautiful woman, voice and soul.
 

-Message d'origine-
De : lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] De la part
de Edward Mast Envoyé : mercredi 23 novembre 2011 20:46 À : Bruno Fournier
Cc : Garry Warber; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Objet : [LUTE] Re: Montserrat
Figueras

Sad indeed - an exciting performer.
On Nov 23, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Bruno Fournier wrote:

> Atlthough off topic, sad day for early music today, Monserat Figueras
passed away.
>  
> Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
> Montreal
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
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[LUTE] Re: gut string, Petition, period colons etc.

2011-11-23 Thread Garry Warber

Why, was them fightin' words?  :-)

No, actually, I don't care what you use...  I just am starting to look 
askance at the brouhaha over the EU ban thing.  It doesn’t matter what 
instrument you use or how it's set up.  How you play what you have is the 
thing, correct?
I still think you guys should think "here kitty, kitty..."  After all, they 
aren't just for stir-fry anymore!


-Original Message- 
From: Edward Mast

Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:43 PM
To: Garry Warber
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: gut string, Petition, period colons etc.

Said, I trust, with tongue firmly in cheek . . .
On Nov 23, 2011, at 4:14 AM, Garry Warber wrote:

Perhaps if you intestine-twiddlers would give a listen to this you may 
amend your aberrant ways:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YxVzNZVflL8

I hope I have the link right... :-)
Garry














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[LUTE] Re: TRe: Montserrat Figueras

2011-11-23 Thread wolfgang wiehe
Sad, very sad. With 69 years.
I didn´t know how often I heard her "canti della sibilla"
W.

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im
Auftrag von Sauvage Valéry
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. November 2011 21:34
An: 'Lute List'
Betreff: [LUTE] TRe: Montserrat Figueras



This is a very sad day...
A most beautiful woman, voice and soul.
 

-Message d'origine-
De : lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] De la
part de Edward Mast Envoyé : mercredi 23 novembre 2011 20:46 À : Bruno
Fournier Cc : Garry Warber; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Objet : [LUTE] Re:
Montserrat Figueras

Sad indeed - an exciting performer.
On Nov 23, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Bruno Fournier wrote:

> Atlthough off topic, sad day for early music today, Monserat Figueras
passed away.
>  
> Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
> Montreal
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
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[LUTE] Re: gut string, Petition, period colons etc.

2011-11-23 Thread Sean Smith


Old Japanese saying:

When the wind blows, the cats disappear.

s



On Nov 23, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Garry Warber wrote:

Why, was them fightin' words?  :-)

No, actually, I don't care what you use...  I just am starting to look  
askance at the brouhaha over the EU ban thing.  It doesn’t matter what  
instrument you use or how it's set up.  How you play what you have is  
the thing, correct?
I still think you guys should think "here kitty, kitty..."  After all,  
they aren't just for stir-fry anymore!


-Original Message- From: Edward Mast
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:43 PM
To: Garry Warber
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: gut string, Petition, period colons etc.

Said, I trust, with tongue firmly in cheek . . .
On Nov 23, 2011, at 4:14 AM, Garry Warber wrote:

Perhaps if you intestine-twiddlers would give a listen to this you  
may amend your aberrant ways:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YxVzNZVflL8

I hope I have the link right... :-)
Garry














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[LUTE] Re: TRe: Montserrat Figueras

2011-11-23 Thread wolfgang wiehe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COiHGmTaUT8

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: wolfgang wiehe [mailto:wie-w...@gmx.de] 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. November 2011 21:45
An: 'Sauvage Valéry'; 'Lute List'
Betreff: AW: [LUTE] TRe: Montserrat Figueras


Sad, very sad. With 69 years.
I didn´t know how often I heard her "canti della sibilla"
W.

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Auftrag von Sauvage Valéry
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. November 2011 21:34
An: 'Lute List'
Betreff: [LUTE] TRe: Montserrat Figueras



This is a very sad day...
A most beautiful woman, voice and soul.
 

-Message d'origine-
De : lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] De la
part de Edward Mast Envoyé : mercredi 23 novembre 2011 20:46 À : Bruno
Fournier Cc : Garry Warber; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Objet : [LUTE] Re:
Montserrat Figueras

Sad indeed - an exciting performer.
On Nov 23, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Bruno Fournier wrote:

> Atlthough off topic, sad day for early music today, Monserat Figueras
passed away.
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> Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
> Montreal
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[LUTE] Re: Montserrat Figueras

2011-11-23 Thread Edward Mast
Sad indeed - an exciting performer.
On Nov 23, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Bruno Fournier wrote:

> Atlthough off topic, sad day for early music today, Monserat Figueras passed 
> away.
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> Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
> Montreal
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> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Edward Mast  wrote:
> Said, I trust, with tongue firmly in cheek . . .
> On Nov 23, 2011, at 4:14 AM, Garry Warber wrote:
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> > Perhaps if you intestine-twiddlers would give a listen to this you may 
> > amend your aberrant ways:
> > http://youtube.com/watch?v=YxVzNZVflL8
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> > I hope I have the link right... :-)
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[LUTE] Re: gut string, Petition, period colons etc.

2011-11-23 Thread Garry Warber

"When the wind blows
the cats disappear"
Walking away
smiling lute player (?)



-Original Message- 
From: Sean Smith

Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 3:43 PM
To: lute
Subject: [LUTE] Re: gut string, Petition, period colons etc.


Old Japanese saying:

When the wind blows, the cats disappear.

s



On Nov 23, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Garry Warber wrote:

Why, was them fightin' words?  :-)

No, actually, I don't care what you use...  I just am starting to look
askance at the brouhaha over the EU ban thing.  It doesn’t matter what
instrument you use or how it's set up.  How you play what you have is
the thing, correct?
I still think you guys should think "here kitty, kitty..."  After all,
they aren't just for stir-fry anymore!

-Original Message- From: Edward Mast
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 12:43 PM
To: Garry Warber
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: gut string, Petition, period colons etc.

Said, I trust, with tongue firmly in cheek . . .
On Nov 23, 2011, at 4:14 AM, Garry Warber wrote:

Perhaps if you intestine-twiddlers would give a listen to this you  may 
amend your aberrant ways:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YxVzNZVflL8

I hope I have the link right... :-)
Garry














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[LUTE] Re: gut string, Petition, period colons etc.

2011-11-23 Thread Edward Mast
Well, I would say not completely correct.  The video you reference shows that 
the instrument used and its set up, as well as the way it's played, matter a 
great deal.  
On Nov 23, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Garry Warber wrote:

> Why, was them fightin' words?  :-)
> 
> No, actually, I don't care what you use...  I just am starting to look 
> askance at the brouhaha over the EU ban thing.  It doesn’t matter what 
> instrument you use or how it's set up.  How you play what you have is the 
> thing, correct?
> I still think you guys should think "here kitty, kitty..."  After all, they 
> aren't just for stir-fry anymore!
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[LUTE] Re: gut string, Petition, period colons etc.

2011-11-23 Thread Daniel Winheld
It's not a haiku yet. Keep working.

Dan

(Oh yes, fine performance- very good, deeply felt playing. The lute sounded 
great, would've sounded even better in gut. The cat's meow, don't cha know...)



[LUTE] Re: Montserrat Figueras

2011-11-23 Thread Daniel Winheld
What a sad event. My sympathies to Jordi and family.


On Nov 23, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Edward Mast wrote:

> Sad indeed - an exciting performer.
> On Nov 23, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Bruno Fournier wrote:
> 
>> Atlthough off topic, sad day for early music today, Monserat Figueras passed 
>> away.
>> 
>> Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
>> Montreal
>> 
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>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Edward Mast  wrote:
>> Said, I trust, with tongue firmly in cheek . . .
>> On Nov 23, 2011, at 4:14 AM, Garry Warber wrote:
>> 
>>> Perhaps if you intestine-twiddlers would give a listen to this you may 
>>> amend your aberrant ways:
>>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=YxVzNZVflL8
>>> 
>>> I hope I have the link right... :-)
>>> Garry
>>> 
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>> www.estavel.org
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[LUTE] Re: Montserrat Figueras

2011-11-23 Thread ml
May I correct: she was born in 1948, so she was 63, not 69
Yes, sad news...
Saludos from Barcelona
Manolo


El 23/11/2011, a las 20:44, Edward Mast escribió:

> Sad indeed - an exciting performer.
> On Nov 23, 2011, at 1:48 PM, Bruno Fournier wrote:
> 
>> Atlthough off topic, sad day for early music today, Monserat Figueras passed 
>> away.
>> 
>> Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
>> Montreal
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Edward Mast  wrote:
>> Said, I trust, with tongue firmly in cheek . . .
>> On Nov 23, 2011, at 4:14 AM, Garry Warber wrote:
>> 
>>> Perhaps if you intestine-twiddlers would give a listen to this you may 
>>> amend your aberrant ways:
>>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=YxVzNZVflL8
>>> 
>>> I hope I have the link right... :-)
>>> Garry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
 
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>> www.estavel.org
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[LUTE] Re: Montserrat Figueras

2011-11-23 Thread howard posner

On Nov 23, 2011, at 4:30 PM, ml wrote:

> May I correct: she was born in 1948, so she was 63, not 69

15 March 1942, according to everything I've seen.  See:

http://www.gramophone.co.uk/classical-music-news/montserrat-figueras-has-died

The Savall/Figueras website home page says "In Memoriam Montserrat Figueras 
1942-2011"  See:

http://www.alia-vox.com/
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[LUTE] Re: Montserrat Figueras

2011-11-23 Thread Edward Martin
Yes indeed, this is very, very sad news.  She is among my favorite 
singers, of all time.  Just this week I listened to her fantastic 
recordings with Hopkinson Smith, the vihuela songs of Milan and Mudarra.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/deceptivecadence/2011/11/23/142704522/montserrat-figueras-a-striking-voice-for-early-music-dies-at-69



At 06:47 PM 11/23/2011, howard posner wrote:

>On Nov 23, 2011, at 4:30 PM, ml wrote:
>
> > May I correct: she was born in 1948, so she was 63, not 69
>
>15 March 1942, according to everything I've seen.  See:
>
>http://www.gramophone.co.uk/classical-music-news/montserrat-figueras-has-died
>
>The Savall/Figueras website home page says "In Memoriam Montserrat 
>Figueras 1942-2011"  See:
>
>http://www.alia-vox.com/
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