[LUTE] Re: those sarabands
Boy, that Mary Burwell- always the life of the party! Not a big Patsy Cline fan, I hear. But every lute player should allow her spirit to sit one's shoulder, and whisper- just occasionally- in one's shell-like ear: In conclusion, the greatest error that is in playing upon the lute is to play too fast, and not to keep the time, and not to use the right fingers. Without that, play never so well, you are but a bungler and fit only to amaze the ignorant sort of people and make a fool of yourself. OK, yes Ma'am! Dan (drives & plays too fast too often, tempus uncontrollabus fuggitus maximus) On 12/20/2014 11:44 AM, Ron Andrico wrote: Just as you say... [1][1]http://mignarda.wordpress.com/2011/06/25/saturday-morning-quote-6-ve ry-serious-advice/ RA > Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 23:02:30 -0500 > To: [2]howardpos...@ca.rr.com > CC: [3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > From: [4]torr...@lafayette.edu > Subject: [LUTE] Re: those sarabands > > All, > > Forgive me if this has already been posted, but I find it interesting that as late as Burwell, the sarabande played on the lute may be used for dancing: > > "To make people dance with the lute it is improper; it is true that a young lady may dance the saraband with her lute, and that is all." > > Thurston Dart, "Miss Mary Burwell's Instruction Book for the Lute." The Galpin Society Journal, Vol. 11, (May, 1958), p. 62. > > Cheers, > Jorge Torres > > > > -- > > To get on or off this list see list information at > [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. [6]http://mignarda.wordpress.com/2011/06/25/saturday-morning-quote-6-very- serious-advice/ -- References 1. http://mignarda.wordpress.com/2011/06/25/saturday-morning-quote-6-ve 2. mailto:howardpos...@ca.rr.com 3. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. mailto:torr...@lafayette.edu 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 6. http://mignarda.wordpress.com/2011/06/25/saturday-morning-quote-6-very-serious-advice/
[LUTE] Re: those sarabands
Just as you say... [1]http://mignarda.wordpress.com/2011/06/25/saturday-morning-quote-6-ve ry-serious-advice/ RA > Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 23:02:30 -0500 > To: howardpos...@ca.rr.com > CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > From: torr...@lafayette.edu > Subject: [LUTE] Re: those sarabands > > All, > > Forgive me if this has already been posted, but I find it interesting that as late as Burwell, the sarabande played on the lute may be used for dancing: > > "To make people dance with the lute it is improper; it is true that a young lady may dance the saraband with her lute, and that is all." > > Thurston Dart, "Miss Mary Burwell's Instruction Book for the Lute." The Galpin Society Journal, Vol. 11, (May, 1958), p. 62. > > Cheers, > Jorge Torres > > > > -- > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://mignarda.wordpress.com/2011/06/25/saturday-morning-quote-6-very-serious-advice/
[LUTE] Galliards was Re: those sarabands
Matthew Locke wrote a few Galliards. And he also wrote Pavans ( a lot for his 'Little Consort' sets where they are usually the first of each set) and surely these too were no longer danced at the time. He disliked foreign music so would have probably not have been much taken with a new slower tempo for the Saraband: "I never yet saw any Forain instrumental composition [a few French Corants excepted] worthy an English mans Transcribing"... Since he was England's leading composer, appointed on the restoration to various court positions (including music for the newly formed Twenty-four violins), he perhaps was influential in delaying the introduction of some new foreign styles and dance speeds in England. MH __ From: howard posner To: Lute List Sent: Saturday, 20 December 2014, 2:12 Subject: [LUTE] Re: those sarabands On Dec 19, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Mathias RAP:sel <[1]mathias.roe...@t-online.de> wrote: > Mace offers quite precise instructions how to perform his sarabands and his galliards. Mace writes on page 129 of Musick's Monument: "Galliards, are Lesson of 2, or 3 Strains, but are perform'd in a Slow, and Large Triple -Time; and (commonly) Grave, and Sober. "Corantoes, are Lessons of a Shorter Cut, and of a Quicker Triple-Time [than galliards, the previous referent, I assume]; commonly of 2 Strains, and full of Sprightfulness, and Vigour, Lively, Brisk, and Cheerful. "Serabands, are of the Shortest Triple-Time; but are more Toyish, and Light, than Corantoes; and commonly of Two Strains." I wonder if anyone was still dancing the galliard in 1676, when he wrote this. Offhand, I can't think of anyone else composing galliards that late, but my offhand recollection is no substitute for fact. Could it be that if a dance goes out of style -- i.e. younger dancers don't take it up -- it will slow as the people who do dance it get older? Mace was about 64 when MM came out; maybe the only people dancing the galliard were his age and had grown up with it. By the same token, the sarabande may have remained a popular dance with the generations younger than Mace's, and therefore remained up-tempo. Or not... To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Saturday morning quote - More Willaert
We have posted our Saturday morning quote on the practice of arranging vocal polyphony for solo voice and lute - with a recorded example. [1]http://wp.me/p15OyV-15Q Donna & Ron -- References 1. http://wp.me/p15OyV-15Q To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Fronimo corrected and reworked Lute Intabulations with better layouts -21
Hi, Here is the list of new lute intabulations, or corrected and reworked intabulations in Fronimo, with better layouts on IMSLP. I recommend to exchange the old music files with my new ones! I found a few little mistakes in "Cabezon, Hernando de - Susanaâ I corrected them! And I found a better solution for a miss sounding bar (Maybe there is a mistake in Hernando Cabezon Tab?) This version now is fine! http://imslp.org/wiki/Susana_un_jur_(Cabezón,_Hernando_de) Ricercar No.3 (Erbach, Christian) - http://imslp.org/wiki/Ricercar_No.3_(Erbach,_Christian) Ales regrets (Agricola, Alexander) - http://imslp.org/wiki/Ales_regrets_(Agricola,_Alexander) AgricolaL'homme banni g,g,g http://imslp.org/wiki/L'homme_banni_(Agricola,_Alexander) http://imslp.org/wiki/A_Collection_of_Netherland_Lute_Trios_(Höger,_Anton) â Binchois - Chanson (Rondeau) Adieu, m' amour et ma Maitresse â Barbinguant (Johannes Ockeghem) - Au traveil suis â Busnois, Antoine - A qui vens tu tes coquilles â Busnois, Antoine - Bel acueil le sergent dâAmours â Busnois, Antoine - Est-il merchy â Busnois, Antoine - Le corps sʹen va Tinctoris, Johannes O Virgo, miserere mei a,g,D/g,g,g http://imslp.org/wiki/Virgo_Dei_throno_digna_(Tinctoris,_Johannes) Monte, Philippe de La grand' amour Sopran & Lute http://imslp.org/wiki/La_grand'_amour_(Monte,_Philippe_de)#IMSLP357046 Vecchi, Orazio - Quem vidistis pastores?Soprano, Alto & Lute http://imslp.org/wiki/Quem_vidistis_pastores?_(Vecchi,_Orazio) -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
