[LUTE] Re: Obbligato lute and theorbo
Ralf- Thank you! Never knew- any pictures of this thing? Anyone building/playing them these days? Dan On 2/11/2015 8:27 AM, Mattes wrote: Am Mittwoch, 11. Februar 2015 17:17 CET, Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net schrieb: ...a pantaleon solo... I thought I knew all the instruments- Surely not this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkHngpNdrJY No, a Panthaleon, named after the (back then) famous virtuoso Panthaleon Hebenstreit. This was a (enormously large) hammered dulcimer invented by Mr. Hebenstreit and build by Silbermann, strung with both metal _and_ gut strings. Hebenstreit was the highest paid musician at the Dresden court - got even more money than Pisendel. HTH Ralf Mattes To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Obbligato lute and theorbo
...a pantaleon solo... I thought I knew all the instruments- Surely not this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkHngpNdrJY On 2/11/2015 3:37 AM, Stephan Olbertz wrote: This is exciting! Hier hängt die Unschuld nackt und bloss, aria with Tenor and (judged by the mp3 on amzon.de) d-minor theorbo. Gebel was a close friend of Johann Kropfgans. I believe his single lute piece is an arrangement of a pantaleon solo, which Gebel played quite succesfully (he used an all gut-strung instrument, BTW). Thanks and best regards Stephan -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von David van Ooijen Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. Februar 2015 11:51 An: Stephan Olbertz Cc: lutelist Net Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Obbligato lute and theorbo Dear Stephan I stand corrected. I remembered it as Graupner because of the anniversary year and because ofA all the Graupner I played myself, but it was Gebel. Georg Gebel. Johannes Passion with obligato lute.A My apologies for the wild goose chase and/or red herrings. Neither for Lent.A David On Wednesday, February 11, 2015, Stephan Olbertz [1]stephan.olbe...@web.de wrote: Dear David, I'm afraid I'm still not able to find it. Lots of amazing music, but no lute and no St. John/Johannes Now, what did your friend play? Regards Stephan -UrsprA 1/4ngliche Nachricht- Von: [2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von David van Ooijen Gesendet: Mittwoch, 4. Februar 2015 11:37 An: Stephan Olbertz; lutelist Net Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Obbligato lute and theorbo A A I'm nit at home so cannit check. Graupner'sA Johannes is onA in A A YouTube. It was a bit of a fad in Holland some years ago, at the A A anniversary of Graupners birth or death. It's a long piece. Haven't A A played it myself, but aA friend did and tild me it was nicedavid A A On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Stephan Olbertz A A [1][4]stephan.olbe...@web.de wrote: A A A Hi David, A A A the Graupner reference is interesting, but I neither can find a A A A lute-instrumentation in the database of his works, nor a Joahnnes A A A Passion. A A A Could you clarify this? A A A [2][5]http://www.graupner-digital.org/gwv.php A A A Thanks and regards A A A Stephan To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Obbligato lute and theorbo
Got it- http://www.la-gioia-armonica.de/english/margit-übellacker-dulcimer-salterio-dulcemelos/instruments/ On 2/11/2015 8:27 AM, Mattes wrote: Am Mittwoch, 11. Februar 2015 17:17 CET, Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net schrieb: ...a pantaleon solo... I thought I knew all the instruments- Surely not this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkHngpNdrJY No, a Panthaleon, named after the (back then) famous virtuoso Panthaleon Hebenstreit. This was a (enormously large) hammered dulcimer invented by Mr. Hebenstreit and build by Silbermann, strung with both metal _and_ gut strings. Hebenstreit was the highest paid musician at the Dresden court - got even more money than Pisendel. HTH Ralf Mattes To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] lute and prostitution
Dear lute friends, [[Apologies in advance for the commercial advertisement (we are offering huge discounts on strings)]] Of all the symbols that the lute has meant throughout history, pleasure, joy, eroticism, festive atmosphere, sensuality, harmony, melancholy (Semper Dowland, semper dolens) ... there is a not so well known, that was perfectly reflected by artists of the time. So the lute, whose appointment in Flemish (luit) also means vagina was a recognized emblem of prostitution and female sexuality, as is perfectly clear in various artistic works of the German/Dutch school (the same Vermeer, for example), or in literary texts of the time (the same Shakespeare, for example). We analyze the relationship between female sexuality and the lute to illustrate the great promotion for the purchase of strings at Cuerdas Pulsadas (up to 60% off). You can read more about this interesting topic and find out about the promotion here: [1]http://cuerdaspulsadas.com/blog/grandes-descuentos-en-cuerdas-pulsad as-y-sorteo-de-facsimiles/ Regards -- De conformidad con lo dispuesto en la Ley OrgA!nica 15/1999 de ProtecciA^3n de Datos de carA!cter Personal DAVID MORALES DE FRAAS, con domicilio en Salamanca, C/ Luis Vives, 6 - cuarto, le informa que los datos de carA!cter personal que facilite forman parte de un fichero, responsabilidad del mismo, para la gestiA^3n administrativa de los clientes. En el supuesto de que desee ejercitar los derechos que le asisten de acceso, rectificaciA^3n, cancelaciA^3n y oposiciA^3n dirija una comunicaciA^3n por escrito a la direcciA^3n indicada anteriormente o al correo electrA^3nico [2]h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com con la referencia ProtecciA^3n de Datos incluyendo copia de su Documento Nacional de Identidad o documento identificativo equivalente. La informaciA^3n contenida en el presente mensaje de correo electrA^3nico es confidencial y su acceso A-onicamente estA! autorizado al destinatario original del mismo, quedando prohibidos cualquier comunicaciA^3n, divulgaciA^3n, o reenvAo, tanto del mensaje como de su contenido. En el supuesto de que usted no sea el destinatario autorizado, le rogamos borre el contenido del mensaje y nos comunique dicha circunstancia a travA(c)s de un mensaje de correo electrA^3nico a la direcciA^3n [3]h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com -- References 1. http://cuerdaspulsadas.com/blog/grandes-descuentos-en-cuerdas-pulsadas-y-sorteo-de-facsimiles/ 2. mailto:h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com 3. mailto:h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Lenten music...
My parish's choir always sings the Gregorio Allegri Miserere, Psalm 51, on Ash Wednesday. I'd love to see the lute could be included in that piece. Chris -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Lute typographies
Dear lute friends, During years of work, David Hernandez has worked to rebuild and digitize a good part of the main manuscript heritage of the lute. A very extensive, thorough and demanding work has always developed with his characteristic humility. You can read more about lute typography by reading this interesting interview in our blog: [1]http://cuerdaspulsadas.com/blog/tipografia-historica-entrevista-davi d-hernandez/ I hope you find it interesting. Regards. -- De conformidad con lo dispuesto en la Ley OrgA!nica 15/1999 de ProtecciA^3n de Datos de carA!cter Personal DAVID MORALES DE FRAAS, con domicilio en Salamanca, C/ Luis Vives, 6 - cuarto, le informa que los datos de carA!cter personal que facilite forman parte de un fichero, responsabilidad del mismo, para la gestiA^3n administrativa de los clientes. En el supuesto de que desee ejercitar los derechos que le asisten de acceso, rectificaciA^3n, cancelaciA^3n y oposiciA^3n dirija una comunicaciA^3n por escrito a la direcciA^3n indicada anteriormente o al correo electrA^3nico [2]h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com con la referencia ProtecciA^3n de Datos incluyendo copia de su Documento Nacional de Identidad o documento identificativo equivalente. La informaciA^3n contenida en el presente mensaje de correo electrA^3nico es confidencial y su acceso A-onicamente estA! autorizado al destinatario original del mismo, quedando prohibidos cualquier comunicaciA^3n, divulgaciA^3n, o reenvAo, tanto del mensaje como de su contenido. En el supuesto de que usted no sea el destinatario autorizado, le rogamos borre el contenido del mensaje y nos comunique dicha circunstancia a travA(c)s de un mensaje de correo electrA^3nico a la direcciA^3n [3]h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com -- References 1. http://cuerdaspulsadas.com/blog/tipografia-historica-entrevista-david-hernandez/ 2. mailto:h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com 3. mailto:h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lenten music...
- Original Message - From: Chris Barker csbarker...@att.net To: 'Lute' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 6:14 PM Subject: [LUTE] Lenten music... My parish's choir always sings the Gregorio Allegri Miserere, Psalm 51, on Ash Wednesday. I'd love to see the lute could be included in that piece. Chris That wouldn't be very appropriate as musical instruments including the organ are not supposed to be used during Lent. Monica -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: new bass strings by Aquila corde
Excellent! Sincerest thanks for sharing, Diego. Eugene -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Diego Cantalupi Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:52 AM To: lutelist Net Subject: [LUTE] new bass strings by Aquila corde Dear friends, here you find a short video with the Toccata VII from the IV book by Kapsberger. I play my unhistorical short theorbo (an instrument measuring 70/117) that I use when I need to travel by plane. The known timbric problem caused by the wounded strings (usually V, VI, VII fretted and XII, XII and XIV bourdons) is here brilliantly solved by the great Mimmo Peruffo (Aquila corde). The theorbo is strung with new nylgut (the whyte/yellow strings) and a new synthetic dark red material for the bass strings. The video is recorded with two cameras; the audio is untouched and is recorded with a pair of Shoeps MK 21 going directly in my Zoom H6. No reverb and equalization are added. The location is my small and dry studio in Cremona. http://youtu.be/E0F0lvPNuJk To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: lute and prostitution
Lute denoted domestic/familial peace throughout Europe. A broken string on a lute denoted the same thing touched by death. Lute's use in paintings on naughty themes was obviously meant as a mockery. RT On 2/11/2015 1:24 PM, David Morales wrote: Dear lute friends, [[Apologies in advance for the commercial advertisement (we are offering huge discounts on strings)]] Of all the symbols that the lute has meant throughout history, pleasure, joy, eroticism, festive atmosphere, sensuality, harmony, melancholy (Semper Dowland, semper dolens) ... there is a not so well known, that was perfectly reflected by artists of the time. So the lute, whose appointment in Flemish (luit) also means vagina was a recognized emblem of prostitution and female sexuality, as is perfectly clear in various artistic works of the German/Dutch school (the same Vermeer, for example), or in literary texts of the time (the same Shakespeare, for example). We analyze the relationship between female sexuality and the lute to illustrate the great promotion for the purchase of strings at Cuerdas Pulsadas (up to 60% off). You can read more about this interesting topic and find out about the promotion here: [1]http://cuerdaspulsadas.com/blog/grandes-descuentos-en-cuerdas-pulsad as-y-sorteo-de-facsimiles/ Regards -- De conformidad con lo dispuesto en la Ley OrgA!nica 15/1999 de ProtecciA^3n de Datos de carA!cter Personal DAVID MORALES DE FRAAS, con domicilio en Salamanca, C/ Luis Vives, 6 - cuarto, le informa que los datos de carA!cter personal que facilite forman parte de un fichero, responsabilidad del mismo, para la gestiA^3n administrativa de los clientes. En el supuesto de que desee ejercitar los derechos que le asisten de acceso, rectificaciA^3n, cancelaciA^3n y oposiciA^3n dirija una comunicaciA^3n por escrito a la direcciA^3n indicada anteriormente o al correo electrA^3nico [2]h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com con la referencia ProtecciA^3n de Datos incluyendo copia de su Documento Nacional de Identidad o documento identificativo equivalente. La informaciA^3n contenida en el presente mensaje de correo electrA^3nico es confidencial y su acceso A-onicamente estA! autorizado al destinatario original del mismo, quedando prohibidos cualquier comunicaciA^3n, divulgaciA^3n, o reenvAo, tanto del mensaje como de su contenido. En el supuesto de que usted no sea el destinatario autorizado, le rogamos borre el contenido del mensaje y nos comunique dicha circunstancia a travA(c)s de un mensaje de correo electrA^3nico a la direcciA^3n [3]h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com -- References 1. http://cuerdaspulsadas.com/blog/grandes-descuentos-en-cuerdas-pulsadas-y-sorteo-de-facsimiles/ 2. mailto:h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com 3. mailto:h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lenten music...
Musical instruments can be played during Lent depending on the denomination. The Allegri Miserere is meant to be a cappella, and that would be a reason to not include instruments. However, I was in a choir whose sopranos were having a lot of difficulty with the high notes, so our director imbedded an oboe player in the soprano section to give support and confidence. -Original Message- From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk To: Chris Barker csbarker...@att.net Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wed, Feb 11, 2015 2:45 pm Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lenten music... - Original Message - From: Chris Barker [1]csbarker...@att.net To: 'Lute' [2]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 6:14 PM Subject: [LUTE] Lenten music... My parish's choir always sings the Gregorio Allegri Miserere, Psalm 51, on Ash Wednesday. I'd love to see the lute could be included in that piece. Chris That wouldn't be very appropriate as musical instruments including the organ are not supposed to be used during Lent. Monica -- To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:csbarker...@att.net 2. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: lute and prostitution
Don't take it all too seriously, but it's there for those who want to see it: [1]http://home.kpn.nl/ooije006/david/writings/pics_f.html David *** David van Ooijen [2]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [3]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** On 11 February 2015 at 21:59, [4]r.turov...@gmail.com [5]r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: Lute denoted domestic/familial peace throughout Europe. A broken string on a lute denoted the same thing touched by death. Lute's use in paintings on naughty themes was obviously meant as a mockery. RT On 2/11/2015 1:24 PM, David Morales wrote: A A Dear lute friends, A A [[Apologies in advance for the commercial advertisement (we are A A offering huge discounts on strings)]] A A Of all the symbols that the lute has meant throughout history, A A pleasure, joy, eroticism, festive atmosphere, sensuality, harmony, A A melancholy (Semper Dowland, semper dolens) ... there is a not so well A A known, that was perfectly reflected by artists of the time. A A So the lute, whose appointment in Flemish (luit) also means vagina A A was a recognized emblem of prostitution and female sexuality, as is A A perfectly clear in various artistic works of the German/Dutch school A A (the same Vermeer, for example), or in literary texts of the time (the A A same Shakespeare, for example). A A We analyze the relationship between female sexuality and the lute to A A illustrate the great promotion for the purchase of strings at Cuerdas A A Pulsadas (up to 60% off). A A You can read more about this interesting topic and find out about the A A promotion here: A A [1][6]http://cuerdaspulsadas.com/blog/grandes-descuentos-en-cuerdas- pulsad A A as-y-sorteo-de-facsimiles/ A A Regards A A -- A A De conformidad con lo dispuesto en la Ley OrgA!nica 15/1999 de A A ProtecciA^3n de Datos de carA!cter Personal DAVID MORALES DE FRAAS, con A A domicilio en Salamanca, C/ Luis Vives, 6 - cuarto, le informa que los A A datos de carA!cter personal que facilite forman parte de un fichero, A A responsabilidad del mismo, para la gestiA^3n administrativa de los A A clientes. En el supuesto de que desee ejercitar los derechos que le A A asisten de acceso, rectificaciA^3n, cancelaciA^3n y oposiciA^3n dirija A A una comunicaciA^3n por escrito a la direcciA^3n indicada anteriormente A A o al correo electrA^3nico [2][7]h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com con la referencia A A ProtecciA^3n de Datos incluyendo copia de su Documento Nacional de A A Identidad o documento identificativo equivalente. La informaciA^3n A A contenida en el presente mensaje de correo electrA^3nico es A A confidencial y su acceso A-onicamente estA! autorizado al destinatario A A original del mismo, quedando prohibidos cualquier comunicaciA^3n, A A divulgaciA^3n, o reenvAo, tanto del mensaje como de su contenido. En el A A supuesto de que usted no sea el destinatario autorizado, le rogamos A A borre el contenido del mensaje y nos comunique dicha circunstancia a A A travA(c)s de un mensaje de correo electrA^3nico a la direcciA^3n A A [3][8]h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com A A -- References A A 1. [9]http://cuerdaspulsadas.com/blog/grandes-descuentos-en-cuerdas-pul sadas-y-sorteo-de-facsimiles/ A A 2. mailto:[10]h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com A A 3. mailto:[11]h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com To get on or off this list see list information at [12]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://home.kpn.nl/ooije006/david/writings/pics_f.html 2. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 3. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ 4. mailto:r.turov...@gmail.com 5. mailto:r.turov...@gmail.com 6. http://cuerdaspulsadas.com/blog/grandes-descuentos-en-cuerdas-pulsad 7. mailto:h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com 8. mailto:h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com 9. http://cuerdaspulsadas.com/blog/grandes-descuentos-en-cuerdas-pulsadas-y-sorteo-de-facsimiles/ 10. mailto:h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com 11. mailto:h...@cuerdaspulsadas.com 12. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Obbligato lute and theorbo
Dear Stephan I stand corrected. I remembered it as Graupner because of the anniversary year and because ofA all the Graupner I played myself, but it was Gebel. Georg Gebel. Johannes Passion with obligato lute.A My apologies for the wild goose chase and/or red herrings. Neither for Lent.A David On Wednesday, February 11, 2015, Stephan Olbertz [1]stephan.olbe...@web.de wrote: Dear David, I'm afraid I'm still not able to find it. Lots of amazing music, but no lute and no St. John/Johannes Now, what did your friend play? Regards Stephan -UrsprA 1/4ngliche Nachricht- Von: [2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von David van Ooijen Gesendet: Mittwoch, 4. Februar 2015 11:37 An: Stephan Olbertz; lutelist Net Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Obbligato lute and theorbo A A I'm nit at home so cannit check. Graupner'sA Johannes is onA in A A YouTube. It was a bit of a fad in Holland some years ago, at the A A anniversary of Graupners birth or death. It's a long piece. Haven't A A played it myself, but aA friend did and tild me it was nicedavid A A On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Stephan Olbertz A A [1][4]stephan.olbe...@web.de wrote: A A A Hi David, A A A the Graupner reference is interesting, but I neither can find a A A A lute-instrumentation in the database of his works, nor a Joahnnes A A A Passion. A A A Could you clarify this? A A A [2][5]http://www.graupner-digital.org/gwv.php A A A Thanks and regards A A A Stephan A A A -UrsprA 1/4ngliche Nachricht- A A A Von: [3][6]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu A A A [mailto:[4][7]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag A A A von David van Ooijen A A A Gesendet: Mittwoch, 4. Februar 2015 09:09 A A A Cc: List LUTELIST A A A Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Obbligato lute and theorbo A A A AA A Wagner aria in Meistersinger. A A A AA A Britten aria in The Triumph Orianna (written for lute but final A A A score A A A AA A has guitar) A A A AA A There's a lot of Telemann that has lute(like) instruments A A A obligato. A A A AA A Worth to check his cantatas. A A A AA A Graupner too (there's obligato lute in his Johannes Passion) A A A AA A Bach (Mattheus, Johannes and the Trauerode) A A A AA A Handel (/Mozart) Caecilia Ode A A A AA A Several contemporary pieces have arias with obligato lute. A A A Perhaps this A A A AA A falls A outside your project? A A A AA A David A A A AA A *** A A A AA A David van Ooijen A A A AA A [1][5][8]davidvanooi...@gmail.com A A A AA A [2][6][9]www.davidvanooijen.nl A A A AA A *** A A A AA A On 4 February 2015 at 08:55, jean-michel Catherinot A A A AA A [3][7][10]jeanmichel.catheri...@cs.dartmouth.edu wrote: A A A AA AA A AAA A la nascita of Albinoni is also on ISMLP A A A AA AA A AAA A Le Mercredi 4 fA(c)vrier 2015 0h02, Andrea Damiani A A A AA AA A AAA A [4][8][11]andreadelli...@gmail.com a A(c)crit : A A A AA AA A AAA AAA A Dear Diego A A A AA AA A AAA AAA A I can add: A A A AA AA A AAA AAA A F. Gasparini: L'oracolo del fato (Garland A A A facsimile) A A A AA AA A AAA AAA A T. Albinoni: Il nascimento dell'Aurora A A A (unfortunately I have A A A AA AA A not the A A A AA AA A AAA AAA A music, I played it many years ago, the ms. should A A A be in A A A AA AA A Wien) A A A AA AA A AAA AAA A G.B. Pergolesi: La morte di San Giovanni (I A A A haven't this any A A A AA AA A more...) A A A AA AA A AAA AAA A F.B. Conti: David (I can find this out but need A A A some A A A AA AA A time...) A A A AA AA A AAA AAA A Andrea A A A AA AA A AAA AAA A 2015-02-03 10:57 GMT+01:00 Diego Cantalupi A A A AA AA A [1][1][5][9][12]tio...@gmail.com: A A A AA AA A AAA AAA AAA A Dear friends, A A A AA AA A AAA AAA AAA A For a project in the Conservatorio where I A A A teach I'm A A A AA AA A collecting A A A AA AA A AAA A some A A A AA AA A AAA AAA AAA A arias with obbligato lute and theorbo. A A A AA AA A AAA AAA AAA A At the moment I have all the Bach music, all A A A the A A A AA AA A HACURndel, some A A A AA AA A AAA AAA AAA A Vivaldi, a cantata by Ferrandini and (the A A A funny) A A A AA AA A Zandonai. A A A AA AA A AAA AAA AAA A Do you have any other
[LUTE] Re: Obbligato lute and theorbo
This is exciting! Hier hängt die Unschuld nackt und bloss, aria with Tenor and (judged by the mp3 on amzon.de) d-minor theorbo. Gebel was a close friend of Johann Kropfgans. I believe his single lute piece is an arrangement of a pantaleon solo, which Gebel played quite succesfully (he used an all gut-strung instrument, BTW). Thanks and best regards Stephan -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von David van Ooijen Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. Februar 2015 11:51 An: Stephan Olbertz Cc: lutelist Net Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Obbligato lute and theorbo Dear Stephan I stand corrected. I remembered it as Graupner because of the anniversary year and because ofA all the Graupner I played myself, but it was Gebel. Georg Gebel. Johannes Passion with obligato lute.A My apologies for the wild goose chase and/or red herrings. Neither for Lent.A David On Wednesday, February 11, 2015, Stephan Olbertz [1]stephan.olbe...@web.de wrote: Dear David, I'm afraid I'm still not able to find it. Lots of amazing music, but no lute and no St. John/Johannes Now, what did your friend play? Regards Stephan -UrsprA 1/4ngliche Nachricht- Von: [2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von David van Ooijen Gesendet: Mittwoch, 4. Februar 2015 11:37 An: Stephan Olbertz; lutelist Net Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Obbligato lute and theorbo A A I'm nit at home so cannit check. Graupner'sA Johannes is onA in A A YouTube. It was a bit of a fad in Holland some years ago, at the A A anniversary of Graupners birth or death. It's a long piece. Haven't A A played it myself, but aA friend did and tild me it was nicedavid A A On Wednesday, February 4, 2015, Stephan Olbertz A A [1][4]stephan.olbe...@web.de wrote: A A A Hi David, A A A the Graupner reference is interesting, but I neither can find a A A A lute-instrumentation in the database of his works, nor a Joahnnes A A A Passion. A A A Could you clarify this? A A A [2][5]http://www.graupner-digital.org/gwv.php A A A Thanks and regards A A A Stephan A A A -UrsprA 1/4ngliche Nachricht- A A A Von: [3][6]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu A A A [mailto:[4][7]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag A A A von David van Ooijen A A A Gesendet: Mittwoch, 4. Februar 2015 09:09 A A A Cc: List LUTELIST A A A Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Obbligato lute and theorbo A A A AA A Wagner aria in Meistersinger. A A A AA A Britten aria in The Triumph Orianna (written for lute but final A A A score A A A AA A has guitar) A A A AA A There's a lot of Telemann that has lute(like) instruments A A A obligato. A A A AA A Worth to check his cantatas. A A A AA A Graupner too (there's obligato lute in his Johannes Passion) A A A AA A Bach (Mattheus, Johannes and the Trauerode) A A A AA A Handel (/Mozart) Caecilia Ode A A A AA A Several contemporary pieces have arias with obligato lute. A A A Perhaps this A A A AA A falls A outside your project? A A A AA A David A A A AA A *** A A A AA A David van Ooijen A A A AA A [1][5][8]davidvanooi...@gmail.com A A A AA A [2][6][9]www.davidvanooijen.nl A A A AA A *** A A A AA A On 4 February 2015 at 08:55, jean-michel Catherinot A A A AA A [3][7][10]jeanmichel.catheri...@cs.dartmouth.edu wrote: A A A AA AA A AAA A la nascita of Albinoni is also on ISMLP A A A AA AA A AAA A Le Mercredi 4 fA(c)vrier 2015 0h02, Andrea Damiani A A A AA AA A AAA A [4][8][11]andreadelli...@gmail.com a A(c)crit : A A A AA AA A AAA AAA A Dear Diego A A A AA AA A AAA AAA A I can add: A A A AA AA A AAA AAA A F. Gasparini: L'oracolo del fato (Garland A A A facsimile) A A A AA AA A AAA AAA A T. Albinoni: Il nascimento dell'Aurora A A A (unfortunately I have A A A AA AA A not the A A A AA AA A AAA AAA A music, I played it many years ago, the ms. should A A A be in A A A AA AA A Wien) A A A AA AA A AAA AAA A G.B. Pergolesi: La morte di San Giovanni (I A A A haven't this any A A A AA AA A more...) A A A AA AA A AAA AAA A F.B. Conti: David (I can find this out but need A A A some A A A AA AA A time...) A A A AA AA A AAA AAA A Andrea A A A AA AA A AAA AAA A 2015-02-03 10:57 GMT+01:00 Diego Cantalupi A A A AA AA A [1][1][5][9][12]tio...@gmail.com: A A A AA AA A AAA AAA AAA A Dear