[LUTE] Re: The Lord my careful Shepherd is

2019-09-06 Thread Rainer

On 06.09.2019 23:26, Ron Andrico wrote:

Rainer, the text could very well have been copied into the ms at a
later date.


I have no idea what you want to tell us.

The lute music was copied around 1600.
The text was almost certainly copied in or after 1679.

This is so obvious  that I have not mentioned it.

Rainer



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Subject: [LUTE] The Lord my careful Shepherd is

Dear lute netters,
some of you may know that the Euing lute manuscript contains texts
written upside-down on some pages.
On the bottom of folio 41r which contains Holborne's Posthuma pavan
there is a relatively long text written in a very small hand
upside-down.
I have managed to identify the text - in the hope it may help to date
the manuscript.
It is a translation of the famous 23. psalm - know from dozens of
Westerns and even science fiction films.
"Unfortunately" this version is drawn from a book published in 1679 -
much later than the lute music.
See
The Psalms of David-,
by John Patrick, D.D. Preacher to the Charter House,
London:—London 1679.
In
HISTORY
OF THE
Scottish Metrical Psalms;
WITH AN ACCOUNT OF
THE PARAPHRASES AND HYMNS,
AND OF THE
MUSIC OF THE OLD PSALTER.
by J. W. MACMEEKEN,
Glasgow, 1872
there is an appendix with 42 [sic!] versions of the 23. psalm and this
version appears only once.
Therefore I have little doubts rewarding its origin.
Rainer
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[LUTE] Renting/Borrowing a Baroque lute in London

2019-09-06 Thread Jay F.
   Hello all,

   This might be a long shot, but does anyone have a spare 13c baroque
   lute I could rent (or know any where I could get one) whilst on holiday
   in London?  I'll be in the UK for 3 weeks from 17/9-8/10.

I'd bring my own instrument, but it doesn't feel as though its worth
   the risk of it being destroyed in transit for such a short stay.
   Nevertheless, the stay is long enough for me to want an instrument to
   play!

   A theorbo could also work...

   Cheers,

   Jay

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[LUTE] Re: The Lord my careful Shepherd is

2019-09-06 Thread Ron Andrico
   Rainer, the text could very well have been copied into the ms at a
   later date.
   RA
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   From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu
on behalf of Rainer
   
   Sent: Friday, September 6, 2019 5:37 PM
   To: Lute net 
   Subject: [LUTE] The Lord my careful Shepherd is

   Dear lute netters,
   some of you may know that the Euing lute manuscript contains texts
   written upside-down on some pages.
   On the bottom of folio 41r which contains Holborne's Posthuma pavan
   there is a relatively long text written in a very small hand
   upside-down.
   I have managed to identify the text - in the hope it may help to date
   the manuscript.
   It is a translation of the famous 23. psalm - know from dozens of
   Westerns and even science fiction films.
   "Unfortunately" this version is drawn from a book published in 1679 -
   much later than the lute music.
   See
   The Psalms of David-,
   by John Patrick, D.D. Preacher to the Charter House,
   London:—London 1679.
   In
   HISTORY
   OF THE
   Scottish Metrical Psalms;
   WITH AN ACCOUNT OF
   THE PARAPHRASES AND HYMNS,
   AND OF THE
   MUSIC OF THE OLD PSALTER.
   by J. W. MACMEEKEN,
   Glasgow, 1872
   there is an appendix with 42 [sic!] versions of the 23. psalm and this
   version appears only once.
   Therefore I have little doubts rewarding its origin.
   Rainer
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[LUTE] Re: Colochon/gallichon,(sic), etc.

2019-09-06 Thread Ralf Mattes
 
Am Freitag, 06. September 2019 20:56 CEST,  schrieb: 
 
> Hi, folks—
> 
> I was just asked to produce some program notes for a concert taking place in 
> about 2 weeks. Of course, my notes are due in less than a week to accommodate 
> the program editor, etc.
> 
> The concert features music for lute, gallichon/colochon and early guitar as 
> well as music for viola da gamba and focuses on the end of the baroque era 
> and the demise of the viol and lute. 
> 
> In any case, I have to write a bit about the gallichon/colochon and I know 
> some of you out there have experience with the instrument and some of you may 
> even have some strong opinions about what it was, what it was called (and 
> why) and what music was played on it.
> 
> I have a Lute News article by Linda Sayce, an LSA newsletter about Vivaldi’s 
> leuto by Eric Liefeld and an article by Donald Gill from LS journal, all 
> dealing with these instruments. And, of course, Grove/Oxford Online article 
> on calichon.
> 
> Anyone have any suggestions of more recent articles, etc. that I might want 
> look at? I don’t have a lot of time, so I cannot go too far down the rabbit 
> hole on this, but if there are any new ideas floating around, it would be fun 
> to have a look at them.
> 
> Thanks in advance for your help.

Probably the most up-to-date entry point would be Andreas Schlegel's book on 
european lutes. He also
provides some online information at 
https://accordsnouveaux.ch/de/instrumente/mandora-galizona-colascione

There you'll find both a list of extant works for the instrument (family) as 
well as a bibliography.

HTH, RalfD

 
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Schwarzwaldstr. 141, D-79102 Freiburg
http://www.mh-freiburg.de
 





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[LUTE] Colochon/gallichon,(sic), etc.

2019-09-06 Thread jjnoonan
Hi, folks—

I was just asked to produce some program notes for a concert taking place in 
about 2 weeks. Of course, my notes are due in less than a week to accommodate 
the program editor, etc.

The concert features music for lute, gallichon/colochon and early guitar as 
well as music for viola da gamba and focuses on the end of the baroque era and 
the demise of the viol and lute. 

In any case, I have to write a bit about the gallichon/colochon and I know some 
of you out there have experience with the instrument and some of you may even 
have some strong opinions about what it was, what it was called (and why) and 
what music was played on it.

I have a Lute News article by Linda Sayce, an LSA newsletter about Vivaldi’s 
leuto by Eric Liefeld and an article by Donald Gill from LS journal, all 
dealing with these instruments. And, of course, Grove/Oxford Online article on 
calichon.

Anyone have any suggestions of more recent articles, etc. that I might want 
look at? I don’t have a lot of time, so I cannot go too far down the rabbit 
hole on this, but if there are any new ideas floating around, it would be fun 
to have a look at them.

Thanks in advance for your help.

See ya,

jeff


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[LUTE] The Lord my careful Shepherd is

2019-09-06 Thread Rainer

Dear lute netters,

some of you may know that the Euing lute manuscript contains texts  written 
upside-down on some pages.

On the bottom of folio 41r which contains Holborne's Posthuma pavan there is a 
relatively long text written in a very small hand upside-down.

I have managed to identify the text - in the hope it may help to date the 
manuscript.

It is a translation of the famous 23. psalm - know from dozens of Westerns and 
even science fiction films.

"Unfortunately" this version is drawn from a book published in 1679 - much 
later than the lute music.

See

The Psalms of David-,
by John Patrick, D.D. Preacher to the Charter House,
London:—London 1679.


In

HISTORY
OF THE
Scottish Metrical Psalms;
WITH AN ACCOUNT OF
THE PARAPHRASES AND HYMNS,
AND OF THE
MUSIC OF THE OLD PSALTER.

by J. W. MACMEEKEN,
Glasgow, 1872

there is an appendix with 42 [sic!] versions of the 23. psalm and this version 
appears only once.
Therefore I have little doubts rewarding its origin.

Rainer



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