[LUTE] Re: Things to play in quarantine
Unfortunately, the problem you're describing is caused by latency over the internet. So, teleconferencing apps like FaceTime, Zoom, and Skype won't allow you to play with other musicians. It will definitely sound like cacophony as you described. Here's a good article describing the problem: [1]https://www.sweetwater.com/insync/online-band-practices-possible/. There are some workarounds for this in the form of certain apps and devices. The problem is that if the app or device is intended to minimize latency and the further you are away from the other musicians and the slower your connection speeds, the more latency you will experience. But it may be worth a try in these difficult times to connect with others to play duets and beyond. Here are the apps listed in the article above: [2]https://www.jamkazam.com (a separate desktop device is recommended) [3]https://www.cockos.com/ninjam/ (this app doesn't appear to deal directly with latency) [4]http://llcon.sourceforge.net (this app appears to upload individual musician tracks, mixes them and then downloads the mixed result as a single track to each collaborator) [5]https://www.facebook.com/eJamming-368668856036/ (their website doesn't seem to be active) I have only had limited experience with JamKazam without the recommended device trying to play duets with a friend in our town and I quickly gave up on it. My internet speed is relatively slow so without the device I was probably hindered in my ability to use the app. It would be a good idea to search on the internet to see how successful these apps are before spending much time with any one of them. Hope this helps, Bill Eisele __ From: lute-...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu on behalf of howard posner Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 4:30 PM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Things to play in quarantine > On Mar 23, 2020, at 8:12 AM, Diego Cantalupi wrote: > > Each one with his/her phone. > > Il 23/03/2020 16:11, Dr. Henner Kahlert ha scritto: >> Wonderful! With which device did you manage to play and record this? Could you share how you did it? Two days ago I tried to lead our small congregation in a virtual service using Zoom, and it was impossible to synchronize it. Even if our mouths were moving in unison, it was cacophony. To get on or off this list see list information at [6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. https://www.sweetwater.com/insync/online-band-practices-possible/ 2. https://www.jamkazam.com/ 3. https://www.cockos.com/ninjam/ 4. http://llcon.sourceforge.net/ 5. https://www.facebook.com/eJamming-368668856036/ 6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Double Top
Last summer, I purchased a âdouble top' guitar. The sound this instrument produces is astounding. It looks like a normal guitar, but the top consists of two layers of wood a half millimeter thick with a latticework of thin balsa wood strips in between for reinforcement. The result is a slab suitable for an instrument top that is much less dense than any solid wood and thus vibrates more easily yet still has sufficient strength to withstand the stress of the strings on the bridge. Question is, has this been tried on a lute? Are there any luthiers interested in trying? A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E. Classical Guitarist/Lutenist On Mar 23, 2020, at 10:20 PM, David van Ooijen <[1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com> wrote: This is what I made a while ago with my guitar (and one lute!) pupil. [1][2]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_- 5Frd4ybtec4Y&d=DwIBAg&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=V LPJ8OE-c_C6joGeE1ftlvxMmQPq9N6mpKZONBRt90E&m=Q7_nqWFrXqIFDsOhjWGSrNT1E4 Gm0tnLie2Pb6saiaA&s=NXpYB9panSORS1wHZF56I315HDkmC4kfG1KQStwHa4I&e= David On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 00:41, Alain Veylit <[2][3]al...@musickshandmade.com> wrote: A somewhat more elaborate take on the same idea - also using a master tape, but took about a year to record in "real time": [3][4]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.yout ube.com_watch-3Fv-3Dph1GU1qQ1zQ&d=DwIBAg&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n1Gyc N4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=VLPJ8OE-c_C6joGeE1ftlvxMmQPq9N6mpKZONBRt90E&m=Q7_nqWF rXqIFDsOhjWGSrNT1E4Gm0tnLie2Pb6saiaA&s=vDtH7embWEqv73Vdex3YtDsNtZf9nAWp WvtkI2WjAQg&e= Luthistes de tous les pays unissez-vous! On 3/23/20 3:30 PM, howard posner wrote: On Mar 23, 2020, at 8:12 AM, Diego Cantalupi <[4][5]tio...@gmail.com> wrote: Each one with his/her phone. Il 23/03/2020 16:11, Dr. Henner Kahlert ha scritto: Wonderful! With which device did you manage to play and record this? Could you share how you did it? Two days ago I tried to lead our small congregation in a virtual service using Zoom, and it was impossible to synchronize it. Even if our mouths were moving in unison, it was cacophony. To get on or off this list see list information at [5][6]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dar tmouth.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=DwIBAg&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQ usp9vYR0n1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=VLPJ8OE-c_C6joGeE1ftlvxMmQPq9N6mpKZON BRt90E&m=Q7_nqWFrXqIFDsOhjWGSrNT1E4Gm0tnLie2Pb6saiaA&s=KB0q6iBbV2bYP 8RQzSThRnFRaBVeGR-3KDzDBcsyMrw&e= -- *** David van Ooijen [6][7]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [7][8]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__davidvanoo ijen.wordpress.com&d=DwIBAg&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n1GycN4_2jInuKy6zb qQ&r=VLPJ8OE-c_C6joGeE1ftlvxMmQPq9N6mpKZONBRt90E&m=Q7_nqWFrXqIFDsOhjWGS rNT1E4Gm0tnLie2Pb6saiaA&s-UG1uSZXuedc3iI94wIchqfaCMXbTths7z0IYKsqjc&e= *** -- References 1. [9]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_-5Frd4 ybtec4Y&d=DwIBAg&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=VLPJ8O E-c_C6joGeE1ftlvxMmQPq9N6mpKZONBRt90E&m=Q7_nqWFrXqIFDsOhjWGSrNT1E4Gm0tn Lie2Pb6saiaA&s=NXpYB9panSORS1wHZF56I315HDkmC4kfG1KQStwHa4I&e= 2. [10]mailto:al...@musickshandmade.com 3. [11]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.co m_watch-3Fv-3Dph1GU1qQ1zQ&d=DwIBAg&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n1GycN4_2jI nuKy6zbqQ&r=VLPJ8OE-c_C6joGeE1ftlvxMmQPq9N6mpKZONBRt90E&m=Q7_nqWFrXqIFD sOhjWGSrNT1E4Gm0tnLie2Pb6saiaA&s=vDtH7embWEqv73Vdex3YtDsNtZf9nAWpWvtkI2 WjAQg&e= 4. [12]mailto:tio...@gmail.com 5. [13]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.cs.dartmout h.edu_-7Ewbc_lute-2Dadmin_index.html&d=DwIBAg&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0 n1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=VLPJ8OE-c_C6joGeE1ftlvxMmQPq9N6mpKZONBRt90E&m=Q7 _nqWFrXqIFDsOhjWGSrNT1E4Gm0tnLie2Pb6saiaA&s=KB0q6iBbV2bYP8RQzSThRnFRaBV eGR-3KDzDBcsyMrw&e= 6. [14]mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 7. [15]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.davidvanooi jen.nl_&d=DwIBAg&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=VLPJ8O E-c_C6joGeE1ftlvxMmQPq9N6mpKZONBRt90E&m=Q7_nqWFrXqIFDsOhjWGSrNT1E4Gm0tn Lie2Pb6saiaA&s=Rr2HrTyaLe6wuuVO7IJPKhsh-UXv8UtDDK07rzO09nQ&e= References 1. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 2. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__youtu.be_-5Frd4ybtec4Y&d=DwIBAg&c=l45AxH-kUV29SRQusp9vYR0n1GycN4_2jInuKy6zbqQ&r=VLPJ8OE-c_C6joGeE1ftlvxMmQPq9N6mpKZONBRt90E&m=Q7_nqWFrXqIFDsOhjWGSrNT1E4Gm0tnLie2Pb6saiaA&s=NXpYB9panSORS1wHZF56I315HDkmC4kfG1KQStwHa4I&e= 3. mailto:al...@musickshandmade.com 4. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.
[LUTE] Re: Double Top
John wrote: >Question is, has this been tried on a lute? Are there any >luthiers interested in trying? > Interesting technology. As applied to a lute? Not so sure. I suspect someone will but most won't as there is not really any advantage and much disadvantage (the lamination process for starters, workin with nomex or similar, etc.). The problem this construction "fixes" is loudness. While there may be occassions when a lute is too soft, making up for it with an overly stiff soundboard would, I suspect, take away much of what makes a lute sound the way it does. Consider the following article for more https://www.guitarsalon.com/blog/?p=1467 Kind regards .. mark. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Lute Tablature using Finale
Hi all! I’ve been using Finale as my primary music notation software for many years. Recently, I’ve begun arranging Renaissance and early Baroque music for a mixed lute trio (Tenor in G, Alto in A, Soprano in D), and while Finale does a fabulous job notating, transposing, printing, etc., the one complaint I’ve had (and have made it myself) is the look and function of the font used for the letters when notating in the French style. I’ve tried many fonts available on my computer; none seem adequate. Specifically, the letters cover each other when two or more notes appear at the same time. A friend recommended using Fronimo, but I don’t believe that one works on a Mac, which I use exclusively. Does anyone here have a recommendation? Craig Wiggins Durham, NC To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
Yes, you can use Fronimo on a mac. You may want to poke through the archives to find out how to do it. I seem to remember that there was something like emulating a pc environment for Fronimo on your mac. I am by no means a computer expert or something, but members of the list talked about that issue several times. Mathias Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App --- Original-Nachricht --- Von: Mac User Betreff: [LUTE] Lute Tablature using Finale Datum: 25.03.2020, 2:31 Uhr An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu @font-face { font-family: telegrotesk-medium_normal; src: url("file:///android_asset/fonts/telegrotesk_normal.ttf");}html,body { font-family: "telegrotesk-medium_normal"; font-size: medium; color: #4b4b4b; width: 100%;} Hi all! I've been using Finale as my primary music notation software for many years. Recently, I've begun arranging Renaissance and early Baroque music for a mixed lute trio (Tenor in G, Alto in A, Soprano in D), and while Finale does a fabulous job notating, transposing, printing, etc., the one complaint I've had (and have made it myself) is the look and function of the font used for the letters when notating in the French style. I've tried many fonts available on my computer; none seem adequate. Specifically, the letters cover each other when two or more notes appear at the same time. A friend recommended using Fronimo, but I don't believe that one works on a Mac, which I use exclusively. Does anyone here have a recommendation? Craig Wiggins Durham, NC To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: The Queenes Treble play along video
Any video editing app will allow you to place pictures or âstills' in the video. I make my tabs and scores in Finale, export as jog and place those in my video. David On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 00:14, Terry Muska <[1]tmu...@aol.com> wrote: Very nice David! How in the world did you place the score into the video? I would appreciate you sharing your process. Thanks, Terry Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 22, 2020, at 10:52 AM, David van Ooijen <[2]davidvanooi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >This is what I just made for my locked down students, maybe it's of use >to some of you as well: >[1][3]https://youtu.be/hLkN3Q0ip9w >David >*** >David van Ooijen >[2][4]davidvanooi...@gmail.com >[3][5]https://davidvanooijen.wordpress.com >*** > >-- > > References > >Visible links: >1. [6]https://youtu.be/hLkN3Q0ip9w >2. mailto:[7]davidvanooi...@gmail.com >3. [8]http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ > >Hidden links: >5. [9]https://youtu.be/hLkN3Q0ip9w > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > [10]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- *** David van Ooijen [11]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [12]https://davidvanooijen.wordpress.com *** -- References 1. mailto:tmu...@aol.com 2. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 3. https://youtu.be/hLkN3Q0ip9w 4. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 5. https://davidvanooijen.wordpress.com/ 6. https://youtu.be/hLkN3Q0ip9w 7. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 8. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ 9. https://youtu.be/hLkN3Q0ip9w 10. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 11. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 12. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
I use Finale. For French tab font I use Times Roman bold italics. Size 11. I place the ciphers through the tab lines, not in between. I check the box to not let tab lines cross the tab ciphers. David On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 02:36, Mac User <[1]cwiggin...@nc.rr.com> wrote: Hi all! I've been using Finale as my primary music notation software for many years. Recently, I've begun arranging Renaissance and early Baroque music for a mixed lute trio (Tenor in G, Alto in A, Soprano in D), and while Finale does a fabulous job notating, transposing, printing, etc., the one complaint I've had (and have made it myself) is the look and function of the font used for the letters when notating in the French style. I've tried many fonts available on my computer; none seem adequate. Specifically, the letters cover each other when two or more notes appear at the same time. A friend recommended using Fronimo, but I don't believe that one works on a Mac, which I use exclusively. Does anyone here have a recommendation? Craig Wiggins Durham, NC To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- *** David van Ooijen [3]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [4]https://davidvanooijen.wordpress.com *** -- References 1. mailto:cwiggin...@nc.rr.com 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 3. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 4. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/
[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
I've used Parallels to open Fronimo on Mac and it works pretty well. My only complaint is that Mac updates sometimes would create problems as would OS upgrades. Eventually it would work but rarely the same problem twice. That was 8 or 9 years ago so that may be water under the bridge. Eventually I just got a dedicated Windows machine and all is well. They are getting pretty inexpensive and Fronimo doesn't use much in the way of computer power. One small requirement is an 'insert' key (to enter a space). If you don't have one on your mac (or windows keyboard) you'll want to map one onto it. I'd be lost without it. Sean On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 6:33 PM Mac User <[1]cwiggin...@nc.rr.com> wrote: Hi all! I've been using Finale as my primary music notation software for many years. Recently, I've begun arranging Renaissance and early Baroque music for a mixed lute trio (Tenor in G, Alto in A, Soprano in D), and while Finale does a fabulous job notating, transposing, printing, etc., the one complaint I've had (and have made it myself) is the look and function of the font used for the letters when notating in the French style. I've tried many fonts available on my computer; none seem adequate. Specifically, the letters cover each other when two or more notes appear at the same time. A friend recommended using Fronimo, but I don't believe that one works on a Mac, which I use exclusively. Does anyone here have a recommendation? Craig Wiggins Durham, NC To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:cwiggin...@nc.rr.com 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute Tablature using Finale
For French tabs with good optics you can also use MuseScore, which is also free. However I have not yet (on Linux) found any support of more than 6 courses. Editing is quite easy. On 25.03.20 06:21, Sean Smith wrote: I've used Parallels to open Fronimo on Mac and it works pretty well. My only complaint is that Mac updates sometimes would create problems as would OS upgrades. Eventually it would work but rarely the same problem twice. That was 8 or 9 years ago so that may be water under the bridge. Eventually I just got a dedicated Windows machine and all is well. They are getting pretty inexpensive and Fronimo doesn't use much in the way of computer power. One small requirement is an 'insert' key (to enter a space). If you don't have one on your mac (or windows keyboard) you'll want to map one onto it. I'd be lost without it. Sean On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 6:33 PM Mac User <[1]cwiggin...@nc.rr.com> wrote: Hi all! I've been using Finale as my primary music notation software for many years. Recently, I've begun arranging Renaissance and early Baroque music for a mixed lute trio (Tenor in G, Alto in A, Soprano in D), and while Finale does a fabulous job notating, transposing, printing, etc., the one complaint I've had (and have made it myself) is the look and function of the font used for the letters when notating in the French style. I've tried many fonts available on my computer; none seem adequate. Specifically, the letters cover each other when two or more notes appear at the same time. A friend recommended using Fronimo, but I don't believe that one works on a Mac, which I use exclusively. Does anyone here have a recommendation? Craig Wiggins Durham, NC To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:cwiggin...@nc.rr.com 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html