[LUTE] Re: Lute concert
In this current discussion, you (Bruno) were the only one to have been at the concert so you have every right to your perceptions. Your perception of the experience is yours and yours alone. Right or Wrong. Tuning your ears to a lute recital is something that gets better with experience. I think Anthony Rooley is part of the Apotheosis of 21st century lute playing, We are all so fortunate to be able to hear, learn and try to understand so many great artists these days. It is oftentimes overwhelming. I have a vinyl LP of Anthony Rooley and Emma Kirkby performing Monteverdi's "Olympia's Lament" and some Sigismondo D"India stuff and I wouldn't part with that album for love nor money. I would however part with this thread for good $0.02 ( I have a paypal account if that helps) Peace CB On 9/24/07, Bruno Correia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear friends, > > First of all, I'm very happy to read so many replies to my post! I'm sorry > if I was too hard on Mr. Rooley, but I wanted to be as precise as possible > about the event I recently attended. > > My first question to you is, do you know how much ground work Anthony > Rooley has done to make the 'lute revival' what it is today? While this > question has nothing to do with technique, nor with your concert experience, > I think it is important to demonstrate a bit of respect for the people who > have, through writings, recordings and performances, created an example from > which we have come to understand and interpret this music we love so much. > > Ron, I don't know how much effort Mr. Rooley has done to promote the lute, I > can only say that the sound was too soft not only for me but for the whole > audience. Not only soft but his playing was faulty (not surprisingly some > people mentioned that too), the sound was dark, the scales were not legato > and his musical intentions were all lost specially in his solos. I didn't > mean to disrespect him, English is not my first language, perhaps I was bit > rough on the issue... > > > "Secondly, I have to ask how much do you perform on the lute?" > > Not as often as I wished... > > Have you played in the hall you described? > > Yes I have played in that hall my times, last time (two months ago) was with > orchestra (Vivadi's Four Seasons) with a 5 course guitar. > > Lastly, a word about lute technique. We, as humans, are all put together a > bit differently. We all have different fingers. This was undoubtedly the > case 400-500 years ago as well. There never was _one_ way to play the lute, > and there still is not _one_ way to play the lute. If your background is, > like so many lutenists, classical guitar, then I can only say I'm sorry. I > understand the idea that Segovia's technique is the only way to play guitar > has slowly given way since that great artist passed on. > > I really didn't understand what you mean. Why you mentioned guitar > background ? > > Hopefully, lutenists will at some point stop being afraid that they are > doing it wrong, and get on with playing music in a way that touches the > listener. While I have not had the privilege of hearing Emma Kirkby and > Anthony Rooley in a live concert, I do appreciate their obvious mutual > understanding of the music they play. I accept the quiet > performance because it gives me the opportunity to listen intently and focus > on the music. > > In my opinion, It's not a matter of being right or wrong but sounding good > or not. Of course it's a matter of taste as well. However, we must be > careful not to ignore completely our audience because ultimately they are > the ones who are paying to watch our silent instrument... > > Glad to read your reply, > > Bruno. > > Best wishes, > > Ron Andrico > http://www.mignarda.com > > > Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:13:24 -0300 > > To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [LUTE] Lute concert > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear lutenists, > > > > > > While having a glass of Malbec wine and my memory is still reasonably > > > fresh, I'd like to share a few coments about the concert that Anthony > > Rooley > > > and Emma Kirkby gave here in Rio de Janeiro last Friday. > > > First of all, I was very excited to see two very famous specialists in > > early > > > music in a recital dedicated to English songs (Dowland, Campion and > > > Coprario). By coincidence my last concert was on English songs as > > well... > > > > > > The hall is fairly large one, 835 seats to be specific. However the > > > acoustics is wonderful, I've seen many great concerts there. But that > > night > > > only one third of the hall was full and I on purpose was seating on the > > 8th > > > row (about the middle of the theatre) just because I wanted to know how > > the > > > duo would deal with the sound projection in such a place. For a moment > > > before the concert I thought that it might be amplified... silly > > thought, it > > > wasn't. > > > > > > The concert began and they made a very good visual impres
[LUTE] Re: St. John Passion
Well at least you have TONS of time before easter :) Good luck and in a perfect world someone will come up to you after the concert and say... that Lute was TOO loud. On 9/4/07, David Tayler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The St John Passion part is a very odd duck. > It exists in several sources. It could also be for lautenwerk in > teast one of the sources. > It plays fine on the archlute, especially if you have a dedicated E > Flat, but other tunings/instruments are fine as well, though the high > notes ligh easily on the archlute. > > The main issue as far as historical performance is concerned is the > bassono grosso. You need a really good player > with the right instrument--the big one. > When it is right, it really is the coolest sound. > > In an acoustically challenged environment, consider having the cello > play the bass notes. Not ideal, but OK with modern orchestra. > The d minor version is interesting as well. > > One should also consider playing in a different reference pitch, > depending on the instrument > > dt > > > > At 03:02 PM 9/4/2007, you wrote: > >Dear David > > > >On what type of lute will you play the Betrachte? I have a tab somewhere > for > >archlute, but with some scordatura in the bass, beware. Better play from > the > >score, it's easier that way. A bit weird to do this aria without the > viola > >d'amore, though, they make all the beautiful dissonances. > > > >You might put it Schlummert ein in a transposition, it goes well with > just > >lute, and has some substance: recit and lengthy aria. Beautiful piece. > Bist > >du bei mir, obviously mandatory repertoire and your audience will love > it. > >There's a solo bass cantate with obligato cembalo you can play: Amore > >traditore BWV 203. I did, it works on lute. I like to play Wachet auf, > but > >I've only done that with a tenor and I don't know how that would work out > >transposed for bass singer. Should be ok, I guess, fourth down. Makes a > >great concert > >piece too. > > > >Let me know if you're in need of scores, I can email you at least some in > >transpositions for bass. > > > >Bach aria's with just lute, no bowed bass, are not easy. It's hard work. > > > >David > > > > > > > >David van Ooijen > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >www.davidvanooijen.nl > > > > > > > >- Original Message - > >From: "David Rastall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "lutelist Net" > >Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 10:13 PM > >Subject: [LUTE] St. John Passion > > > > > > > Dear luters, > > > > > > I know we've discussed the topic of the lute part in "Betrachte Meine > > > Seele" from the SJP before, but at the time I never paid much > > > attention. Well, I've been asked to perform this with a bass > > > soloist, and so I'm now paying close attention to whatever I can find > > > out about it! > > > > > > Is there a written-out lute part available somewhere? I could > > > intabulate it directly from the piano reduction, but a part already > > > realized would be a huge help. Also, the singer wants to know if I > > > can suggest a second Bach aria to act as a companion-piece to > > > "Betrachte Meine Seele," probably to be performed with just the lute > > > continuo only: preferably Bach, or something that would fit into a > > > program of High Baroque arias. I don't know much about the vocal > > > solo repertoire of the High Baroque, especially as it relates to the > > > lute. Anyone got any ideas? > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > David Rastall > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > --
[LUTE] BBC Early Music Show this week
*Sunday 01 July 2007 13:00<http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/earlymusicshow/pip/3vw3c> * A Musical Banquet: Catherine Bott introduces a selection of music by John Dowland and his contemporaries, performed by tenor Mark Padmore with lutenist Elizabeth Kenny. It is only online for a week so enjoy it while you can. Regards, Chris Bolton -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] An interesting article in the Washington post.
I had to admit to myself that I've been guilty of the same phenomenon as described in the following article, but I've decided to keep listening and plucking away in spite of the somewhat depressing state of affairs. Is it just a romantic notion that life as a lute player would have been easier under the patronage of the Medici? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/04/AR2007040401721.html -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: lute teacher Needed..Scam?
Of all of the occupations that one could from which one might possibly target to scam money, a lute player would be pretty far down the list. You'd figure the payoff would be significantly better targetting CEO's or bankers or just about ANYONE other than a lute player. Nearly every lute player that I know, when they have a bit of discretionary funding, just goes out and buys another lute. Furthermore, it seems a little fishy that he couldn't find a good lute teacher in the Netherlands??? Not, of course to imply, Ron, that you "couldn't bring out the best" in the little gaffer, I'm sure there are some fairly confident players and teachers in Holland :) Strange too that he spells his name one way at the top of the email and a different way in the close. "Non omne quod nitet aurum est" CB On 4/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ron, > > > Total scam. Knew it already from the name - the > con-artists seem to _love_ using two first names. (I > happen to know TWO real guys named Bob George. I hope > they never go into internet marketing.) I get about > four or five emails like this a day. You know what > they say...if its too good to be true, it isn't. > > > Chris > > > > > --- Ron Andrico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >Has anyone else been receiving messages like the > > one copied below. This is > >the third such message I have received and I wish > > it were legitimate but > >suspect something fishy. Thanks in advance for > > any clarification. > > > >Ron Andrico & Donna Stewart > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[2]http://www.mignarda.com > > > > > __ > > > > From: Ron Andrico & Donna Stewart > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Fwd: lute teacher Needed.. > > Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 05:16:13 -0700 (PDT) > > > > "Mr.barry Constantine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > From: "Mr.barry Constantine" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: lute teacher Needed.. > > Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 06:36:56 -0500 > > Hello ,i need a teacher for my child,and my > > child told me that is > > interested > > in knowing it.Since i have the came across your > > email on the net ,my child > > is just 18yrs of ages i understand that you are > > in (us)because he will be > > coming from Netherland,i think that is my > > opportunity because is coming to > > (us) for an holiday so i want to make used of > > that opprtunity,i believe > > that > > you can bring out the best in him,i am willing > > to you by the means of > > CERTIFIED CASHIER'S CHECK OR MONEY ORDER,Give > > me you price for an hour,so > > that i can know how to proceed on the > > payment,and before that i will like > > to know; > > 1.Price for the > > > > lesson for an hour > > 2.cost for the lesson for 3 times in a week. > > 3.Total price for the lesson for a month. > > 4.Your location i.e (city and state). > > 5.Phone Number. > > Thanks, > > Mr.Barry Constatine.. > > > > > _ > > Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and > > more from Microsoft Office > > Live! > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ > > > > > __ > > > > [3]Bored stiff? Loosen up... > > [4]Download and play hundreds of games for free > > on Yahoo! Games. > > > > > _ > > > >[5]Mortgage rates near historic lows. Refinance > > $200,000 loan for as low as > >$771/month* > > > > References > > > >1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >2. http://www.mignarda.com/ > >3. > > > http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49935/*http://games.yahoo.com > >4. > > > http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49935/*http://games.yahoo.com > >5. http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2749??PS=47575 > > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > > > > > > Bored stiff? Loosen up... > Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. > http://games.yahoo.com/games/front > > > --
[LUTE] Re: tablature for beginners
And don't forget about practicing with "regular" notation. It is *really* useful especially when it comes to playing with other musicians. Stefan Lundren's "Renaissance Lute" book is an oldy but goody, and I just found out that he has a lot of great stuff online at http://www.luteonline.de/ This also has a TON of music http://www.gerbode.net/ as does http://www.lute.ru/library_eng/lutetab.htm This should keep you busy for a while. Peace On 4/6/07, Arthur Ness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The LSA has a book of easy pieces called (somthing like) > "My First Book of French Tablature." It's available > fromAnne Burns, the microfilm librarian. I'm sending her > a cc: so you can be in direct contact. > - Original Message - > From: "Omer katzir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Lute Net" > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 10:58 AM > Subject: [LUTE] tablature for beginners > > > > so... now, when my lute is here, i can start playing > > :-) > > > > im looking for any suggestions for nice music to play > > on my 7 course > > lute, im beginner and so im not looking for superman > > stuff. > > i know how to read french tablature (pretty good, i > > must say, almost > > like guitar) and some italians tablature, the german i > > cant read yet, > > but ill be happy to get easy stuff to start with. > > > > > > thank you all and happy passover :-) > > > > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > > --
[LUTE] Re: Krakow
Not plucky related but a music anectode nonetheless: a friend of mine, John Thiessen, whose a very fine natural trumpeter related the story, and played the tune for a select audience, of a tune which ends quite abruptly, as the original trumpeter was struck in the neck with an arrow. http://www.krakow-info.com/hejnal.htm I don't remember the tune so well, but the ending sure was memorable. Have fun in Poland Regards, Chris Bolton On 4/2/07, Stuart Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone know of any interesting museums, music shops etc (anything to do > with old plucked things) in Krakow? I'm going there for a very short > visit. > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > --
[LUTE] Italian Frottole broadcast on BBC radio's site.
BBC radio's Early Music show has a broadcast which you can listen to online of Italian Frottole of Bartolomeo Tromboncino and Marco Cara. It is a nice programme featuring 3 lutes and some nice cornetto playing. It will likely only be online for a couple of days but it is worth a listen http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/earlymusicshow/pip/l5ydu/ click on the "Listen to this broadcast" near the top of the page. Enjoy. Chris B. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: something totally different:)
Eddie Van Halen was granted a U.S. Patent in 1987 for a device which supposedly makes this style of playing easier. The supporting pictures in the patent application are amusing. http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT4656917 On 3/12/07, Narada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Eat your heart out Eddie Van Halen. :-)) > > NW > > -Original Message- > From: Anton Birula [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12 March 2007 14:20 > To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Subject: [LUTE] something totally different:) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSJ4tcVEDX4&mode=related&search> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4gEJc5tUi8&mode=related&search> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPoEFi_WdDk&mode=related&search> > > > > I love this kind of approach an just wanted to share > it:) > Best, Anton > > > > > > TV dinner still cooling? > Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. > http://tv.yahoo.com/ > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > --
