[LUTE] Re: What do you call this instrument
It looks like a custom made instrument and there are more pegs then strings... Could be that they changed the original neck of this instrument. 100% it's not a standard guitar-lute (I have a similar instrument but with a standard neck and I think it was made somewhere in Hungarian-Austrian area). --- On Sun, 7/15/12, howard posner wrote: From: howard posner Subject: [LUTE] What do you call this instrument To: "Lute List" Date: Sunday, July 15, 2012, 6:57 PM Is there a standard name for this sort of early 20th-century lute-guitar-attiorbato whatever? [1]http://www.gazettenet.com/2010/07/24/betty-viereck-formerly-south-ha dley And did anybody here know Betty Viereck? To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.gazettenet.com/2010/07/24/betty-viereck-formerly-south-hadley 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: advice on Jorge Sentieiro wanted
I've met Sentieiro a few years ago in Basel. He is a nice guy and the instruments from his workshop (what he had in that moment) were excellent. If you want, you can contact my lute maker also maybe he has time to do this instrument: loril...@yahoo.com --- On Fri, 6/22/12, David van Ooijen wrote: From: David van Ooijen Subject: [LUTE] advice on Jorge Sentieiro wanted To: "lutelist Net" Date: Friday, June 22, 2012, 12:27 PM A friend of mine is looking for a 10-course. He's an (ex...) guitar payer, and this will be his first lute. He's looking at makers he can afford, and found Jorge Sentieiro from Basel. Anybody know his work and is willing to tell me his experiences? You can reply off-list. David -- *** David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. file://localhost/mc/compose?to%c3%9avidvanooi...@gmail.com 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: SECTIO AUREA
Thank you for listening, Best regards from Romania, CAIUS HERA --- On Tue, 6/12/12, Edward Mast wrote: From: Edward Mast Subject: [LUTE] Re: SECTIO AUREA To: "hera caius" Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Tuesday, June 12, 2012, 2:51 PM Lovely music and performances, Caius. Thank you for posting. Ned On Jun 12, 2012, at 2:45 AM, hera caius wrote: >For the first time I started to use the soundcloud which is a great > thing so as my first experience with it I have uploaded some excerpts > from the recital: SECTIO AUREA held in Bucharest/Romania in February > 2012 in one of the most concert halls from our country. This is a live > recording made by the Romanian National Radio. This recital presents > Italian music from the beginning of the XVI century until the beginning > of the XVII century. > Judit Andrejszki from Budapest is the singer, virginal player and > percussionist; Caius Hera (me) is playing vihuela, renaissance lute and > baroque guitar. If you have time and patience or interest for this > repertoire please listen this compilation of fragments from our > concert. > [1][1]http://soundcloud.com/kyuslauten/sectio-aurea > > -- > > References > > 1. [2]http://soundcloud.com/kyuslauten/sectio-aurea > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://soundcloud.com/kyuslauten/sectio-aurea 2. http://soundcloud.com/kyuslauten/sectio-aurea 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] SECTIO AUREA
For the first time I started to use the soundcloud which is a great thing so as my first experience with it I have uploaded some excerpts from the recital: SECTIO AUREA held in Bucharest/Romania in February 2012 in one of the most concert halls from our country. This is a live recording made by the Romanian National Radio. This recital presents Italian music from the beginning of the XVI century until the beginning of the XVII century. Judit Andrejszki from Budapest is the singer, virginal player and percussionist; Caius Hera (me) is playing vihuela, renaissance lute and baroque guitar. If you have time and patience or interest for this repertoire please listen this compilation of fragments from our concert. [1]http://soundcloud.com/kyuslauten/sectio-aurea -- References 1. http://soundcloud.com/kyuslauten/sectio-aurea To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: unusual combination: lute and stylophone
The youtube links are not working...I was curious to see... [01.gif] --- On Sun, 6/3/12, WALSH STUART wrote: From: WALSH STUART Subject: [LUTE] unusual combination: lute and stylophone To: "Lutelist" Date: Sunday, June 3, 2012, 3:41 PM [1][1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoRMAfVrz04 Stuart -- References 1. [2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoRMAfVrz04 To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoRMAfVrz04 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoRMAfVrz04 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: A special request (Kapsberger)
Dear Arthur Ness, Thank you very much for the details about this book. It's very good feeling to have music which was considered lost... Maybe the second book is also somewhere in a private library rotting slowly... [03.gif] I am also very interested about Kapsi's vocal music. Recently I made a concert with villanellas, arias and Nigra Sum (one of his mottets) The music is not very innovative but more like "inspired by the moment". I have the feeling that he was compsing the music with a therbo or a guitar in his hand (like modern pop-rock song composers...). Kapsi is a cool composer in my opinion. --- On Thu, 5/31/12, A. J. Ness wrote: From: A. J. Ness Subject: Re: [LUTE] A special request (Kapsberger) To: "hera caius" , "Lute List" Date: Thursday, May 31, 2012, 12:41 AM Dear Caius, For Kapsberger's third book of chitarone music, there is only one copy known, and it lacks the pages you ask about. That copy was in the magnificent Berlin library of Werner Wolffheim which went on the auction block in 193?. A private individual in Bologna acquired that copy. For years the book was known only from its listing in the auction catalogue. In 2001 several lute tablatures were announced for auction by Sotheby's. Yale wanted a German tablature for their rare book collection (they had no examples of German tablature), and so gathered up monies to purchase a Heckel tablature which was in the sale. Yale got lucky. The price on the Heckel was driven beyond their budget. (It's the most unexciting book of lute music ever; and ten copies are known to exist.) So they reconnoitered and decided on the Kapsberger third chitarone book. Little did they know that it was the copy from Bologna, the only one known to exist. What a coup! For all of us, because its purchase by Yale finally made that Kapsberger volume available to everyone. And our Diego Cantalupi had his own coup. He made the first recording of its music (a fine one, too!). AND the Yale library permitted him to include a facsimile of the entire print in his CD. [1]http://www.mvcremona.it/CDKapsbergeEngl.html This just tends to illustrate how ephemeral is the lute repertory. One copy of a book that was surely issued in several hundred copies. From a court case, we know Dowland's third book of ayres was printed in 1250 copies. Less than a dozen survive. u.s.w. Arthur. - Original Message - From: "hera caius" <[2]caiush2...@yahoo.com> To: <[3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 10:44 AM Subject: [LUTE] A special request >Hello, > I have played some of the music from the Kapsberger third book for > theorbo. This book I received from somebody but it some of the pages > are missing...so it starts at page 9 (in the original numbering. It > would be so perfect if somebody can provide me the pages 1 to 8 (I > guess there are two toccatas) in pdf or jpg. Thanks in advance. > Caius Hera > > -- > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.mvcremona.it/CDKapsbergeEngl.html 2. file://localhost/mc/compose?to%c3%8aiush2...@yahoo.com 3. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: A special request
Thanks man, Respect, Caius Hera --- On Wed, 5/30/12, Rockford Mjos wrote: From: Rockford Mjos Subject: Re: [LUTE] A special request To: "hera caius" Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Wednesday, May 30, 2012, 7:36 PM [1]http://www.dana-howe.com/dana-howe/En_Theorbo_Tablatures.html On May 30, 2012, at 9:44 AM, hera caius wrote: > Hello, >I have played some of the music from the Kapsberger third book for >theorbo. This book I received from somebody but it some of the pages >are missing...so it starts at page 9 (in the original numbering. It >would be so perfect if somebody can provide me the pages 1 to 8 (I >guess there are two toccatas) in pdf or jpg. Thanks in advance. >Caius Hera > >-- > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.dana-howe.com/dana-howe/En_Theorbo_Tablatures.html 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: All about micing...part II
All instruments very authentic copies. Gamba and violin on gut, historical bows, baroque flute traversierre, 14 course theorbo in A on nylgut and copper and organo di legno (wood organ) One example: [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfDoomhnUOU&list=UUFoONkd8wBnm1emuE8y bClQ&index0&feature=plcp (recording was made in 2010) (the quality of the recording is not the best) --- On Tue, 4/10/12, David Tayler wrote: From: David Tayler Subject: [LUTE] Re: All about micing...part II To: "lute" Date: Tuesday, April 10, 2012, 12:58 AM If you use all original instruments, you will hear the lute fine. However, if you have thin bridges, heavy bows, thick bass bars, metal strings etc on the bowed strings then they will be easily twice as loud. And so all of the soft instruments will disappear. __ From: Mathias Roesel <[2]mathias.roe...@t-online.de> To: lute net <[3]Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Mon, April 9, 2012 5:50:11 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: All about micing...part II >there and the music was generally very interesting but I hear your >theorbo only on the solo piece..." (a Kapsberger)...Na... There's nothing wrong with an audible theorbo in an ensemble, probably, but the thing is, pluckers cannot hold their tones like singers, viols, flutes or organs do. So what should be heard are the impulses of each chord or note that you play. Profiling the rhythmic structure of an ensemble piece is a major task of the theorbo, I suppose. And if you're not content with that, there's another way to become audible. You can break the chords. Not in the way of quick arpeggios, but in regular rhythm. You can try to go in consonant intervals alongside the leading part in prominent passages. To get on or off this list see list information at [1][4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfDoomhnUOU&list=UUFoONkd8wBnm1emuE8ybClQ&index0&feature=plcp 2. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=mathias.roe...@t-online.de 3. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: All about micing...redux
"may I offer some help in terminology?" Nou, thenc iu, ai em raiting nau in da ist europian inglis. (No, thank you, I am writing now in the est - European English) P.S.If you were on the frequency...there were several jokes about mike's mice's and other pets...all of them here on the forum). Please keep my topic clean as I try to have a serious discussion about this issue and not about English spelling and grammar...ok?) Thank you and have a very (m)nice day. --- On Mon, 4/9/12, William Brohinsky wrote: From: William Brohinsky Subject: [LUTE] All about micing...redux To: "lute net" Date: Monday, April 9, 2012, 5:30 PM Fellow luters, may I offer some help in terminology? First of all, micing does not exist in the language (on either side of the Atlantic) in a context of microphones. I might have use in terms of barn cats. The actual term is, as was originally used, miking. However, there is a price for using this form, at least for this old geezer, in that every time I saw the subject line about miking lutes, I wondered, "geez, can you really get milk out of one of them things?" For our purposes, and for all that it costs a few extra letters and a whole space, I highly recommend "using microphones" or if you aren't capitalizing it, "using mikes." 'Miking' is a concatation (pace Stan Kelly-Bootle) used in the industry by technicians who are sure they have less time than they obviously have. Those who feel the aching need to over-complicate their prose are invited to substitute "utilize" for "use" with the promise that I, at least, will not feel the loss at avoiding their posts. yours with tongue in both cheeks at once, William To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: All about micing...redux
"may I offer some help in terminology?" Nou, thenc iu, ai em raiting nau in da ist europian inglis. (No, thank you, I am writing now in the est - European English) P.S.If you were on the frequency...there were several jokes about mike's mice's and other pets...all of them here on the forum). Please keep my topic clean as I try to have a serious discussion about this issue and not about English spelling and grammar...ok?) Thank you and have a very (m)nice day. --- On Mon, 4/9/12, William Brohinsky wrote: From: William Brohinsky Subject: [LUTE] All about micing...redux To: "lute net" Date: Monday, April 9, 2012, 5:30 PM Fellow luters, may I offer some help in terminology? First of all, micing does not exist in the language (on either side of the Atlantic) in a context of microphones. I might have use in terms of barn cats. The actual term is, as was originally used, miking. However, there is a price for using this form, at least for this old geezer, in that every time I saw the subject line about miking lutes, I wondered, "geez, can you really get milk out of one of them things?" For our purposes, and for all that it costs a few extra letters and a whole space, I highly recommend "using microphones" or if you aren't capitalizing it, "using mikes." 'Miking' is a concatation (pace Stan Kelly-Bootle) used in the industry by technicians who are sure they have less time than they obviously have. Those who feel the aching need to over-complicate their prose are invited to substitute "utilize" for "use" with the promise that I, at least, will not feel the loss at avoiding their posts. yours with tongue in both cheeks at once, William To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] All about micing...part II
Recently I organized a very nice concert of baroque music in a huge church in Timisoara (Romaniah). I used gamba, baroque flute, baroque violin, positif organ and voice together with theorbo. The program consist in baroque pieces from different countries...anyways. All together the concert was quite nice and everybody enjoyed it very much. But...after the concert somebody came to me (who was siting more in the back of the church) and said: "hey man you all were looking fantastic there and the music was generally very interesting but I hear your theorbo only on the solo piece..." (a Kapsberger)...Na... What do you think about this? I started to use a Roland AC60 in combination with SHURE beta98A/C and the result is: people can hear the theorbo...(my conscience is a bit full but what can I do?) :) -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: A couple of lutenists?
The lutenist of Giardino Armonico is Luca Pianca (from Italian Switzerland). He is an amazing lutenist and more interesting he is an declared non-historical (his archlute is constructed more like a guitar and he use huge tensions to strings). --- On Sat, 4/7/12, Arto Wikla <[1]wi...@cs.helsinki.fi> wrote: From: Arto Wikla <[2]wi...@cs.helsinki.fi> Subject: [LUTE] A couple of lutenists? To: [3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Saturday, April 7, 2012, 9:26 PM Dear lutenists, in one Finnish tv-channel (Teema) there were just two interesting programs - lute included: [1]Philippe Jaroussky was singing Caldara with Concerto Koeln and then[2] Cecilia Bartoli sang castrati arias with Giardino Harmonico. In Concerto Koeln there was a bald theorbo player. Played well. With Giardiano there was an archlute player with quite small instrument. Does anyone happen to know, who these guys are? The archlutenist was perhaps Contini? Not important at all, but I must say Cecilia was much more masculine in her castrati arias than Philippe in Caldara... ;-) Arto -- References 1. [1][4]http://ohjelma.yle.fi/ohjelmat/1421774 2. [2][5]http://ohjelma.yle.fi/ohjelmat/1421775 To get on or off this list see list information at [3][6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. [7]http://ohjelma.yle.fi/ohjelmat/1421774 2. [8]http://ohjelma.yle.fi/ohjelmat/1421775 3. [9]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=wi...@cs.helsinki.fi 2. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=wi...@cs.helsinki.fi 3. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. http://ohjelma.yle.fi/ohjelmat/1421774 5. http://ohjelma.yle.fi/ohjelmat/1421775 6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 7. http://ohjelma.yle.fi/ohjelmat/1421774 8. http://ohjelma.yle.fi/ohjelmat/1421775 9. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: A couple of lutenists?
The lutenist of Giardino Armonico is Luca Pianca (from Italian Switzerland). He is an amazing lutenist and more interesting he is an declared non-historical (his archlute is constructed more like a guitar and he use huge tensions to strings). --- On Sat, 4/7/12, Arto Wikla wrote: From: Arto Wikla Subject: [LUTE] A couple of lutenists? To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Saturday, April 7, 2012, 9:26 PM Dear lutenists, in one Finnish tv-channel (Teema) there were just two interesting programs - lute included: [1]Philippe Jaroussky was singing Caldara with Concerto Koeln and then[2] Cecilia Bartoli sang castrati arias with Giardino Harmonico. In Concerto Koeln there was a bald theorbo player. Played well. With Giardiano there was an archlute player with quite small instrument. Does anyone happen to know, who these guys are? The archlutenist was perhaps Contini? Not important at all, but I must say Cecilia was much more masculine in her castrati arias than Philippe in Caldara... ;-) Arto -- References 1. [1]http://ohjelma.yle.fi/ohjelmat/1421774 2. [2]http://ohjelma.yle.fi/ohjelmat/1421775 To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://ohjelma.yle.fi/ohjelmat/1421774 2. http://ohjelma.yle.fi/ohjelmat/1421775 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: What makes a good lute?
That sounds really exciting...please let me know what was the conclusion... [24.gif] Caius --- On Sat, 4/7/12, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote: From: Jean-Marie Poirier Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: What makes a good lute? To: "hera caius" Date: Saturday, April 7, 2012, 7:08 PM No problem Caius (I finally unserstood that Caiusmust be your fist name, sorry about that !) Anyway, we can discuss that with Luca (but not only) in Vicenza next week :-) ! Best, Jean-Marie = == En reponse au message du 07-04-2012, 17:49:47 == > > > Sorry for the "p". > > Maybe i forgot to say: "IN MY OPINION..." > --- On Sat, 4/7/12, Jean-Marie Poirier <[1]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote: > > From: Jean-Marie Poirier <[2]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> > Subject: [LUTE] Re: What makes a good lute? > To: "Lute List" <[3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Date: Saturday, April 7, 2012, 6:24 PM > > Not a very easy question to answer and by the way not a very relevant > question. The very notion of "good" applied to a lute or anything is > obviously subjective. The few potentially objective criteria are > evident : craftsmanship, woods, string action and price. All the rest > is open to debate. > I do not quite agree with Hera to say that Paul Thomson (no "p" by the > way ;-) and Joel Van Lennep are the best makers to date, however good > they may be, ans they are good ! > There are, thank God, several other excellent makers, who produce > excellent lutes as well, not to name them : Martin Haycock, David Van > Edwards, Alexander Batov in England, Andy Rutherford in the US, Julien > Stryjak or Stephen Murphy in France, Hendryk Hasenfuess in Germany and > the list could be made much, much longer... > All these people ARE excellent makers too. > Now the problem is aesthetics, what you are after in your mind, your > "ideal" of sound; and the price may be another good reason to go to > this or that maker rather than the supposed top brass ! If you want the > same lute as say Paul O'Dette, ok, go to the other Paul (Thomson) but > if you have; if you hope to emulate Hoppy, then go to Joel in Boston. > But if you have a precise idea of the lute you would like, the sound > you would like for such or such repertoire, I am sure it will be easier > to discuss details, and to experiment with makers who are not reputed > to be simply the best... > I know people who have sold their Thomson's lute because the sound > eventually did not correspond to what they were after. > My twopence anyway ! > All the best, > Jean-Marie > = > > == En reponse au message du 07-04-2012, 16:39:34 == > > Hi, > > very nice list. Let me put them in a slightly different order: > > 1. sound (very subjective, but when you hear it, you know you found > it) > > 2. playability (again very subjective. Most of present lutemakers > > dogmata are rather funny, especially when supported by arguments > like > > "this respects the original instrument in the collection ABC". > Fine, > > what if that istrument had been built for an 11 years old girl?) > > 3. Aesthetic. A lute si suppose to be beautiful. Sometimes it > happens > > to see really ugly instruments. With all the research involved in > XVI > > and XVII (and XVIII) century lutemaking, an ugly instrument is > > "unauthentic" ;-) > > 3. quality of craftmanship (it's sad when you get a nice sound out > of a > > lute a bit too toughly built, if you get what I mean...) > > 4. authenticity of design / construction (again we need to be very > > careful: there are TWO 6 course lutes survived which tells us not > much > > about the variety of 6 course instruments available to XVI century > > players) > > 5. materials (I'd dare say that if it's nicely playable and have a > good > > sound and looks beautiful, well, materials must have been selected > the > > right way...) > > I don't care about the maker's reputation. If it's an investment, > OK. > > If it's a music instrument, then the maker is not the first point
[LUTE] Re: What makes a good lute?
Na, ok, I will try to imagine Kerry King (Slayer) explaining in an interview: "...yes I saw the BC Rich guitars...but, you know...the PRS was sounding so much better in the store...really...and I thought it will sound even better in our ensemble..." --- On Sat, 4/7/12, Eugene Kurenko wrote: From: Eugene Kurenko Subject: [LUTE] Re: What makes a good lute? To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Saturday, April 7, 2012, 6:56 PM 2012/4/7 Eugene Kurenko <[1][1]eugene.kure...@gmail.com> Haha :) BC Rich guitars looks not badl but Carlos Santana's PRS sounds much better :) And the sound is primary. 2012/4/7 hera caius <[2][2]caiush2...@yahoo.com> Here is the instrument: (I' m worning you that it's not so horror) [1][3][3]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BC_Rich and here is the music: [2][4][4]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_metal You can't go wrong and especially you can't get sick... :) Good luck! -- References 1. mailto:[5]eugene.kure...@gmail.com 2. mailto:[6]caiush2...@yahoo.com 3. [7]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BC_Rich 4. [8]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_metal To get on or off this list see list information at [9]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=eugene.kure...@gmail.com 2. file://localhost/mc/compose?to%c3%8aiush2...@yahoo.com 3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BC_Rich 4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_metal 5. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=eugene.kure...@gmail.com 6. file://localhost/mc/compose?to%c3%8aiush2...@yahoo.com 7. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BC_Rich 8. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_metal 9. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: What makes a good lute?
Sorry for the "p". Maybe i forgot to say: "IN MY OPINION..." --- On Sat, 4/7/12, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote: From: Jean-Marie Poirier Subject: [LUTE] Re: What makes a good lute? To: "Lute List" Date: Saturday, April 7, 2012, 6:24 PM Not a very easy question to answer and by the way not a very relevant question. The very notion of "good" applied to a lute or anything is obviously subjective. The few potentially objective criteria are evident : craftsmanship, woods, string action and price. All the rest is open to debate. I do not quite agree with Hera to say that Paul Thomson (no "p" by the way ;-) and Joel Van Lennep are the best makers to date, however good they may be, ans they are good ! There are, thank God, several other excellent makers, who produce excellent lutes as well, not to name them : Martin Haycock, David Van Edwards, Alexander Batov in England, Andy Rutherford in the US, Julien Stryjak or Stephen Murphy in France, Hendryk Hasenfuess in Germany and the list could be made much, much longer... All these people ARE excellent makers too. Now the problem is aesthetics, what you are after in your mind, your "ideal" of sound; and the price may be another good reason to go to this or that maker rather than the supposed top brass ! If you want the same lute as say Paul O'Dette, ok, go to the other Paul (Thomson) but if you have; if you hope to emulate Hoppy, then go to Joel in Boston. But if you have a precise idea of the lute you would like, the sound you would like for such or such repertoire, I am sure it will be easier to discuss details, and to experiment with makers who are not reputed to be simply the best... I know people who have sold their Thomson's lute because the sound eventually did not correspond to what they were after. My twopence anyway ! All the best, Jean-Marie = == En reponse au message du 07-04-2012, 16:39:34 == > Hi, > very nice list. Let me put them in a slightly different order: > 1. sound (very subjective, but when you hear it, you know you found it) > 2. playability (again very subjective. Most of present lutemakers > dogmata are rather funny, especially when supported by arguments like > "this respects the original instrument in the collection ABC". Fine, > what if that istrument had been built for an 11 years old girl?) > 3. Aesthetic. A lute si suppose to be beautiful. Sometimes it happens > to see really ugly instruments. With all the research involved in XVI > and XVII (and XVIII) century lutemaking, an ugly instrument is > "unauthentic" ;-) > 3. quality of craftmanship (it's sad when you get a nice sound out of a > lute a bit too toughly built, if you get what I mean...) > 4. authenticity of design / construction (again we need to be very > careful: there are TWO 6 course lutes survived which tells us not much > about the variety of 6 course instruments available to XVI century > players) > 5. materials (I'd dare say that if it's nicely playable and have a good > sound and looks beautiful, well, materials must have been selected the > right way...) > I don't care about the maker's reputation. If it's an investment, OK. > If it's a music instrument, then the maker is not the first point on my > list either. > Very exciting conversation: I look forward to read other opinions :-) > Thanks! > Luca > William Samson on 07/04/12 15.25 wrote: > > I haven't really got much to add to the subject line. I've been > chatting with Rob about this and various points have emerged I'd be > interested in hearing what priorities you might put on the various > characteristics of a lute in deciding if it's 'good' or otherwise. > > The kinds of things that have come up are (in no particular order): > > * playability (action, string spacing etc) > * sound (which I can't easily define) > * authenticity of design/construction > * materials used > * quality of craftsmanship > * reputation of maker > > > Of course these are rather broad headings and might easily be refined, > clarified or broken down. > > Thoughts, please? > > Bill > > -- > > >To get on or off this list see list information at >[1][1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > >References > > 1. [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: What makes a good lute?
Here is the instrument: (I' m worning you that it's not so horror) [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BC_Rich and here is the music: [2]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_metal You can't go wrong and especially you can't get sick... :) Good luck! --- On Sat, 4/7/12, Eugene Kurenko wrote: From: Eugene Kurenko Subject: [LUTE] Re: What makes a good lute? To: "Luca Manassero" Cc: "Lute List" Date: Saturday, April 7, 2012, 6:07 PM I vote only for sound and playability! Aesthetic have no sense for me. The instrument may looks like total horror but if it can produce great sound and is comfortable to play it's ok for me. By the way I really hate highly ornamented instruments with that flowers, hearts etc. IMHO theese nice "things" suits well on instruments for women but not for men. So as for me the great lute - is the lute which looks more like bloody viking axe and sounds like hell bell than another one which looks like romantic candy-box with sickening sweetest tone :))) 2012/4/7 Luca Manassero <[1][3]l...@manassero.net> Hi, very nice list. Let me put them in a slightly different order: 1. sound (very subjective, but when you hear it, you know you found it) 2. playability (again very subjective. Most of present lutemakers dogmata are rather funny, especially when supported by arguments like "this respects the original instrument in the collection ABC". Fine, what if that istrument had been built for an 11 years old girl?) 3. Aesthetic. A lute si suppose to be beautiful. Sometimes it happens to see really ugly instruments. With all the research involved in XVI and XVII (and XVIII) century lutemaking, an ugly instrument is "unauthentic" ;-) 3. quality of craftmanship (it's sad when you get a nice sound out of a lute a bit too toughly built, if you get what I mean...) 4. authenticity of design / construction (again we need to be very careful: there are TWO 6 course lutes survived which tells us not much about the variety of 6 course instruments available to XVI century players) 5. materials (I'd dare say that if it's nicely playable and have a good sound and looks beautiful, well, materials must have been selected the right way...) I don't care about the maker's reputation. If it's an investment, OK. If it's a music instrument, then the maker is not the first point on my list either. Very exciting conversation: I look forward to read other opinions :-) Thanks! Luca William Samson on 07/04/12 15.25 wrote: I haven't really got much to add to the subject line. I've been chatting with Rob about this and various points have emerged I'd be interested in hearing what priorities you might put on the various characteristics of a lute in deciding if it's 'good' or otherwise. The kinds of things that have come up are (in no particular order): * playability (action, string spacing etc) * sound (which I can't easily define) * authenticity of design/construction * materials used * quality of craftsmanship * reputation of maker Of course these are rather broad headings and might easily be refined, clarified or broken down. Thoughts, please? Bill -- To get on or off this list see list information at [1][2][4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. [3][5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:[6]l...@manassero.net 2. [7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 3. [8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BC_Rich 2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_metal 3. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=l...@manassero.net 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 6. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=l...@manassero.net 7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: What makes a good lute?
I can tell you how you can spot a "good lute" (if you buy from a lute maker) in Western Europe and USA, very simple: BY IT'S PRICE!!! And on the other hand I think you can't make a rule (or a set of rules) for "what makes a good lute", important is when you buy it that you like the sound, it's a good feeling to play on it and it looks nice also. P.S.In my opinion, Joel van Lennep and Paul Thompson are the top quality lutes nowadays (still...) :) --- On Sat, 4/7/12, William Samson wrote: From: William Samson Subject: [LUTE] What makes a good lute? To: "Lute List" Date: Saturday, April 7, 2012, 4:25 PM I haven't really got much to add to the subject line. I've been chatting with Rob about this and various points have emerged I'd be interested in hearing what priorities you might put on the various characteristics of a lute in deciding if it's 'good' or otherwise. The kinds of things that have come up are (in no particular order): * playability (action, string spacing etc) * sound (which I can't easily define) * authenticity of design/construction * materials used * quality of craftsmanship * reputation of maker Of course these are rather broad headings and might easily be refined, clarified or broken down. Thoughts, please? Bill -- To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: miking a lute/theorbo
I recently recorded a CD with Christmas music in a studio in Hungary and I can tell you they get the sound of the theorbo as beautiful as possible. I really don't know what kind of microphone they used but it was a huge one about 40 cm from the soundboard and a smaller one about 20 cm from the fretboard. In that way the sound was very natural and the CD listened on a HI-FI stuff it's like a real live one... I think it's also a matter of preamps (they were using some tube preamps and amps...). Shure, AKG and Sennheiser are among the best what you can find on "normal" prices. Shure is my favorite. --- On Tue, 4/3/12, Brad Walton wrote: > From: Brad Walton > Subject: [LUTE] miking a lute/theorbo > To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu > Date: Tuesday, April 3, 2012, 7:05 PM > Hello folks, > > > On the weekend I recorded two pieces in a professional > recording studio. I was accompanying a singer on the > theorbo. The recording engineer aimed two mikes quite > close to the body of the theorbo. > > > On the recording, the sound of the theorbo is very tinny and > distorted, and bears almost no similarity to the natural/ > acoustic sound of the instrument. > > > Has anybody had experience with miking a lute or theorbo for > recording? What mike placement gave you the best > results so far as concerned fidelity to the natural sound of > the instrument? > > > Thanks, > > > Brad > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >
[LUTE] Re: Faksimile
That's a great source... I'm wondering if there is an English translation on the net??? --- On Fri, 3/30/12, Rainer wrote: From: Rainer Subject: [LUTE] Faksimile To: "Lute net" Date: Friday, March 30, 2012, 2:19 AM Dear lute netters, I have no idea if this is new: [1]http://reader.digitale-sammlungen.de/resolve/display/bsb10598228.htm l Rainer adS To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://reader.digitale-sammlungen.de/resolve/display/bsb10598228.html 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Vallet score and recording
What kind of instrument are you playing on this recording? It sounds single strung and plucked by nails. Thanks, Caius --- On Sat, 3/31/12, Tobiah wrote: From: Tobiah Subject: [LUTE] Vallet score and recording To: "'Lute Net'" Date: Saturday, March 31, 2012, 11:28 PM There is a .pdf that I made with Finale, and a recording of the piece I made after finishing it. [1]http://tobiah.org/vallet Tobiah To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://tobiah.org/vallet 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Vimeo: Monica Pustilnik playing Piccinini
Here is a courante I played on theorbo and I feel in that moment that this was the good tempo for this one. And sometimes is very interesting to discuss about tempos which are sometimes so relative... (home recording using a ZOOM H1-minimal editing) [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI8NgwlFU58 All the best, Caius Hera --- On Wed, 3/28/12, Monica Pustilnik wrote: From: Monica Pustilnik Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vimeo: Monica Pustilnik playing Piccinini To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Wednesday, March 28, 2012, 1:23 AM May I say something? I'd rather like to think in a healthy technique, that allows adapting each player's physiology to the artistic and expressive needs, and the particular instrument. Let's face the question about nails vs flesh: both are mentioned as possibilities in the historical sources. In my particular case, now i do use short nails, and this out of my will of experimentation. I do not play classical guitar since 15 years ago, and the reason for my RH tecnique is therefore not the guitar, but a decission concerning the best way to use my particular physiology, as I said before. Thank you in any case for your opinion! Hera, I do agree with you: it is a little bit too slow, for me as well nevertheless, I do indulge in playng it slow because I feel it could work given the texture of the piece. Nothing is permanent, let's experiment... Cheers, Monica --- En date de : Mar 27.3.12, Mathias Roesel <[2]mathias.roe...@t-online.de> a ecrit : De: Mathias Roesel <[3]mathias.roe...@t-online.de> Objet: [LUTE] Re: Vimeo: Monica Pustilnik playing Piccinini A: "'ml'" <[4]man...@manololaguillo.com> Cc: "Lute List" <[5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Date: Mardi 27 mars 2012, 12h40 > >> In it Monica Pustilnik plays Corrente VI from Piccinini's 1639 book. > >> > >> The archlute was made by Francisco Hervas (Granada). > > > > Thanks for sharing, Manolo! This is another example, though, of RH > > modern guitar playing technique, as regards position close to the rose > > and thumb-in. Amazing anyway. > I don't understand what you mean, though... RH modern guitar playing > technique would imply thumb-out, not thumb-in, right? Yes, indeed. What I was referring to is the position of her right hand close to the bridge, her playing with nails, and the initial movements of her index and middle fingers from the root joints. That's how I was taught to play the classical guitar. When I picked up the lute, it was the renaissance lute first, and I was taught to turn my right arm around and play thumb-in. That blend of techniques betrays former guitarists who haven't abandoned the classical guitar. Don't get me wrong, though, Monica Pustilnik is an amazing player IMHO. She has been Evangelina Mascardi's partner on their marvellous Castaldi CD (strongly recommended). Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at [1][6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. [7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI8NgwlFU58 2. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=mathias.roe...@t-online.de 3. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=mathias.roe...@t-online.de 4. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=man...@manololaguillo.com 5. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Vimeo: Monica Pustilnik playing Piccinini
Nice interpretation, good sound, very professional, maybe just a little bit too slow for my taste. --- On Mon, 3/26/12, ml wrote: From: ml Subject: [LUTE] Vimeo: Monica Pustilnik playing Piccinini To: "Lute Net" Date: Monday, March 26, 2012, 11:45 AM Hi, this is to inform about a new VIMEO video. In it Monica Pustilnik plays Corrente VI from Piccinini's 1639 book. The archlute was made by Francisco Hervas (Granada). Cheers, Manolo Laguillo To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Quality vs Quantity
AHA Typical blogers attitude...just a few replies and we have already the reality distorted... Can't be more simple... WARNING: READ CAREFULLY AND ONLY THAN REPLY!!! --- On Sun, 3/25/12, Guy Smith wrote: From: Guy Smith Subject: [LUTE] Re: Quality vs Quantity To: "'David Smith'" , "'hera caius'" , Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Sunday, March 25, 2012, 9:00 PM I do get a bit tired of people who look down their nose at anything that doesn't meet their exalted standards. It's worth noting that, to the extent that we are concerned about HIP, a lot of historical performance was in fact by amateurs of varying degrees of ability and training. If we want to be historically informed listeners, we need to be tolerant of performers that aren't quite up to the level of Paul or Nigel (or even within a light year or two). Even Paul and Nigel aren't quite up to that level if you compare live performance to a highly produced recording. I think the real problem with YT is not so much one of quality as of expectations. I enjoy dinner with friends just as much (if not more) than I do dinner at Le Gourmand, although the quality of the food is vastly superior at Le Gourmand; I have a different set of expectations for the two. The real problem with YT isn't so much the highly variable quality but that it's hard to know what to expect unless you happen to know the performer. That's not to say that everything on YT is worth watching (far from it) but still... (FWIW, Le Gourmand is a real restaurant, one of Seattle's finest, but we keep it a secret since it has only a few tables). Guy -Original Message- From: [1]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of David Smith Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 10:18 AM To: 'hera caius'; [3]Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Quality vs Quantity I have to admit as someone that was considering posting my poor attempts on youtube I find this a somewhat chilling set of observations. I have to admit that my motivations are purely selfish - looking for support in my feeble attempts to learn my instruments, showing off the instruments (certainly not my playing), and motivation to perfect something well enough to be willing to share it. I agree there is much on the web that is worthless and uninteresting. As a professional performance platform it is poor. As a community square where you can hear all kinds of music and their performance it is pretty nice (especially for us in a region of the world that is not full of live early music performance - Oregon can be somewhat of a wasteland). I am somewhat embarrassed that the performer of the "Expert" Baroque Lute went to University of Portland (at least according to his notes). Regards David -Original Message- From: [4]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[5]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of hera caius Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 9:28 AM To: [6]Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Quality vs Quantity I have the impression that he is serious as many many people on the net showing their "skills"... --- On Sun, 3/25/12, [7]mathias.roe...@t-online.de <[8]mathias.roe...@t-online.de> wrote: From: [9]mathias.roe...@t-online.de <[10]mathias.roe...@t-online.de> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Quality vs Quantity To: [11]Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Sunday, March 25, 2012, 7:23 PM > Example: > [1][1][12]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFSbnTIRxqY > As I watch it several times...more and more it became > strange and I try to understand... > P.S.This is one of my favorites But, hey, he is making fun of it, isn't he? I take it to be comedy. Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at [2][13]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. [14]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFSbnTIRxqY 2. [15]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 2. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 3. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 5. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 6. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 7. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=mathias.roe...@t-online.de 8. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=mathias.roe...@t-online.de 9. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=mathias.roe...@t-online.de 10. file://localhost/mc/com
[LUTE] Re: Quality vs Quantity
I have the impression that he is serious as many many people on the net showing their "skills"... --- On Sun, 3/25/12, mathias.roe...@t-online.de wrote: From: mathias.roe...@t-online.de Subject: [LUTE] Re: Quality vs Quantity To: Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Sunday, March 25, 2012, 7:23 PM > Example: > [1][1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFSbnTIRxqY > As I watch it several times...more and more it became > strange and I try to understand... > P.S.This is one of my favorites But, hey, he is making fun of it, isn't he? I take it to be comedy. Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFSbnTIRxqY 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Quality vs Quantity
Example: [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFSbnTIRxqY As I watch it several times...more and more it became strange and I try to understand... P.S.This is one of my favorites -- References 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFSbnTIRxqY To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Quality vs Quantity
It's already a few years I watch videos on youtube of lutenists (and early guitarists). I must say the number of recordings tripled in just a few years but to be honest and not wanting to hurt anybody, some of the recordings are very wrong if not moronic at all... In between there are the "real" recordings which doesn't has a subtitle like: "I was first reading the piece..." or "I just started to play the lute a few minutes ago and I thought to record it..." or "I was tired and the lute was miraculously out of tune..." or my favorite: "I tried a different interpretation..." What do you think, is it helpful to fill the YT with this things or: lesser is better? -- To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Quality vs Quantity
It's already a few years I watch videos on youtube of lutenists (and early guitarists). I must say the number of recordings tripled in just a few years but to be honest and not wanting to hurt anybody, some of the recordings are very wrong if not moronic at all... In between there are the "real" recordings which doesn't has a subtitle like: "I was first reading the piece..." or "I just started to play the lute a few minutes ago and I thought to record it..." or "I was tired and the lute was miraculously out of tune..." or my favorite: "I tried a different interpretation..." What do you think, is it helpful to fill the YT with this things or: lesser is better? -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Baron Dm suite
[1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o11y7-yxqk --- On Fri, 3/9/12, Albert Reyerman wrote: From: Albert Reyerman Subject: [LUTE] Re: Baron Dm suite To: "William Samson" Cc: "Valery Sauvage" , "le_l...@yahoogroupes.fr" , "'Lute Net'" Date: Friday, March 9, 2012, 10:54 AM Ernst Gottlieb Baron Complete works (solo lute & Ensemble works) edited by Jan Burgers available at www.tree-edition.com TREE EDITION Albert Reyerman Finkenberg 89 23558 Luebeck Germany [2]albertreyer...@kabelmail.de www.Tree-Edition.com ++49(0)451 899 78 48 More Music Books at [3]http://tree-edition.magix.net/public/ Am 09.03.2012 09:32, schrieb William Samson: > What a joy! I hadn't realised that Baron had written such a great > suite. Very well interpreted too. > > Thank you, Valerie. > > Bill > From: Valery Sauvage<[4]sauvag...@orange.fr> > To: [5]le_l...@yahoogroupes.fr; 'Lute Net'<[6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Sent: Friday, 9 March 2012, 7:31 > Subject: [LUTE] Baron Dm suite > A voir, to watch : > [1]www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LVZNOiHbtU > Amities > Val > -- > References > 1. [1][7]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LVZNOiHbtU > To get on or off this list see list information at > [2][8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > -- > > References > > 1. [9]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LVZNOiHbtU > 2. [10]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > . > -- References 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o11y7-yxqk 2. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=albertreyer...@kabelmail.de 3. http://tree-edition.magix.net/public/ 4. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=sauvag...@orange.fr 5. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=le_l...@yahoogroupes.fr 6. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LVZNOiHbtU 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html 9. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LVZNOiHbtU 10. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Kapsberger books
Hello lutenists, Does anybody knows a place on internet where I can find book 1, 2 and 3 of villanelle by Kapsberger? Or maybe somebody has an pdf of those and can share. It would be very helpful as I am working on a project with Kapsberger music and I try to make it as interesting as possible. Thank you, Caius -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Kapsberger books
Hello lutenists, Does anybody knows a place on internet where I can find book 1, 2 and 3 of villanelle by Kapsberger? Or maybe somebody has an pdf of those and can share. t would be very helpful. Thank you, Caius -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Kapsberger
Very nice and abstract. It's interesting that Kapsberger writes down in all his toccatas the ornaments and all the passages sometimes even the arpeggios except in this "classical" one. I still like the old fashion way to play it. From the historical sources we have some clues on how this lutenists were performing the arpeggio but I guess we will never know how Kapsberger himself was playing this piece. --- On Sat, 2/11/12, David Tayler wrote: From: David Tayler Subject: [LUTE] Kapsberger To: "lute-cs.dartmouth.edu" Date: Saturday, February 11, 2012, 4:53 AM Yet another Kapsberger video :) enjoy [1]http://youtu.be/CpQw0UH-YV4 dt To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://youtu.be/CpQw0UH-YV4 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Kapsberger
Very nice and abstract. It's interesting that Kapsberger writes down in all his toccatas the ornaments and all the passages sometimes even the arpeggios except in this "classical" one. I still like the old fashion way to play it. From the historical sources we have some clues on how this lutenists were performing the arpeggio but I guess we will never know how Kapsberger himself was playing this piece. --- On Sat, 2/11/12, David Tayler wrote: From: David Tayler Subject: [LUTE] Kapsberger To: "lute-cs.dartmouth.edu" Date: Saturday, February 11, 2012, 4:53 AM Yet another Kapsberger video :) enjoy [1]http://youtu.be/CpQw0UH-YV4 dt To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://youtu.be/CpQw0UH-YV4 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: imperfectly tune
--- On Tue, 2/7/12, hera caius wrote: From: hera caius Subject: Re: [LUTE] imperfectly tune To: "Nicolae Szekely" Date: Tuesday, February 7, 2012, 11:22 AM There is no "perfect" tuning. There are several ways to tune the lute instruments. [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_temperament From my experience I can tell you that you can't have all the notes on all frets at equal temperament in the same moment. You can adjust the frets that you use more often (usually in the first position) and you must be patient and forget about "perfect"/"imperfect". By the way, as I played your lute before I can tell you in that moment was very good. --- On Mon, 2/6/12, Nicolae Szekely wrote: From: Nicolae Szekely Subject: [LUTE] imperfectly tune To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Monday, February 6, 2012, 12:43 PM In fact, what things do to a good tune of a lute ? after 4 years, I can't tune my lute... It is a lute ? (imperfect construction?) Or the strings ? I use New Nilgut. I thing the soundboard makes some harmonics that "harm" the perfect sound. Maybe it is some secrets to make a verry good lute (sounboard) ? I am a little dispered... I cant play on lute when, for example, the first string, in a position, is correctly "g", but in c position is NOT "a" Sorry for my bad english. -- To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_temperament 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Pakistani "Selas"
Has anyone tried this guitars what you can find on almost every sites for instruments? I am very curious how it sounds and how it really looks. [1]http://www.ethnicmusicalinstruments.com/Roosebeck-5-Course-Sellas-Ba roque-Guitar-Hard-Case-.html [2]http://www.thomann.de/ro/thomann_baroque_guitar.htm [3]http://www.ebay.com/itm/BAROQUE-GUITAR-SELLAS-5-COURSE-TAYLOR-/25098 6031110?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6feee806 (look at this guy's price...exactly the same guitar) [4]http://www.fernandezmusic.com/BaroqueGuitar.html [5]http://www.amazon.com/Baroque-Guitar-Sellas-5-course-Taylor/dp/B003I LW6ZU (a funny one...) [6]http://www.bytheswordinc.com/showproduct.aspx?ProductID=10323&SEName =baroque-guitar-sellas-5-course-taylor-47-gbslazt etc. -- References 1. http://www.ethnicmusicalinstruments.com/Roosebeck-5-Course-Sellas-Baroque-Guitar-Hard-Case-.html 2. http://www.thomann.de/ro/thomann_baroque_guitar.htm 3. http://www.ebay.com/itm/BAROQUE-GUITAR-SELLAS-5-COURSE-TAYLOR-/250986031110?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6feee806 4. http://www.fernandezmusic.com/BaroqueGuitar.html 5. http://www.amazon.com/Baroque-Guitar-Sellas-5-course-Taylor/dp/B003ILW6ZU 6. http://www.bytheswordinc.com/showproduct.aspx?ProductID=10323&SEName=baroque-guitar-sellas-5-course-taylor-47-gbslazt To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Sectio Aurea
Hello lutenists, I have uploaded on YT some pieces from the project Sectio Aurea. This concert was held in a very nice building in Targu Mures-Romania. If anybody is interested to see a Francesco duet (on lute and virginal) and Varoter frottola with vihuela and voice, please go to the link. The singer is Judit Andrejszki from Budapest, one of the leading early music sopranos from Hungary. [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtrkXxi2tY8 [2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE9Mk9Tu6eA (Sorry for the quality of the sound: amateur recording from public...) Have a nice day everybody. -- References 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtrkXxi2tY8 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE9Mk9Tu6eA To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Jarring the mood with slow pieces.
--- On Mon, 1/30/12, hera caius wrote: From: hera caius Subject: Re: [LUTE] Jarring the mood with slow pieces. To: "Herbert Ward" Date: Monday, January 30, 2012, 5:24 PM I think the lutenists of the past were wondering the same thing until somebody clever "invented" THE BAROQUE SUITE... :) --- On Mon, 1/30/12, Herbert Ward wrote: From: Herbert Ward Subject: [LUTE] Jarring the mood with slow pieces. To: Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Monday, January 30, 2012, 4:29 AM I played an art show this afternoon. I like having a hum of conversation to play against. For one thing it's less stressful than a formal concert, since mistakes are less egregious. It went well, except that sometimes a slow piece seemed to dampen the liveliness of the crowd. This happened especially when the slow piece followed a fast piece. It was rather irritating to me. I was wondering whether the Collective Wisdon might have something to say about this problem. To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: tuning software?
Hello, In my opinion this is the best "software" on the market at an acceptable price: OT 120 Korg; I tune my baroque lute in 3 minutes with it... [01.gif] [1]http://www.korg.com/OT120 Caius --- On Sun, 1/29/12, David van Ooijen wrote: From: David van Ooijen Subject: [LUTE] tuning software? To: "lutelist Net" Date: Sunday, January 29, 2012, 6:41 PM It has come up, and I even had something installed on my computer once, but I lost all. Does anybody use tuning software for Windows and/or Mac, and if so, any feedback on the software used? David -- *** David van Ooijen [2]davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.korg.com/OT120 2. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=davidvanooi...@gmail.com 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Ex Libris
Hello, Sorry for this but I was wondering how big are this books that if you sale 5 of them you will "thin" your library? :) --- On Sat, 1/28/12, resea...@monsignor-reggio.com wrote: From: resea...@monsignor-reggio.com Subject: [LUTE] Ex Libris To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Saturday, January 28, 2012, 1:42 PM I have recently moved to a smaller apartment and need to thin out my library. I am offering the following for sale: 1. Penguin Book of Early Music - Anthony Rooley 2. Holbourne - Music for Lute and Bandora - Harvard 3. J S Bach Works for Lute - Tree edition 4. Continuo Playing on the Lute and Theorbo - Nigel North (Original Hardback Edition) 5. John Dowland - Diana Poulton - Faber and Faber edition - Soft cover. All are in pristine condition except for the Rooley, which has had good use and the cover is a bit worn. I have found offered on Amazon a copy of the Poulton book at $380!! I may try to sell this on e-bay but more importantly I want to see it (and the others) go to a good home. Please contact me off list if you are interested and we can discuss. [1]resea...@monsignor-reggio.com Anthony -- __ Anthony Hart MSc, LLCM,ALCM. Musicologist and Independent Researcher Highrise Court 'B', Apt 2, Tigne' Street, Sliema, SLM3174, MALTA Tel: +356 27014791; Mob: +356 9944 9552. e-mail: [2]resea...@antoninoreggio.com; web: www.monsignor-reggio.com To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=resea...@monsignor-reggio.com 2. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=resea...@antoninoreggio.com 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Gaultier recording
I have uploaded two "very famous" pieces by Denis Gaultier on youtube. Home recording. If anyone interested: [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt10ZL7Xjog Caius -- References 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt10ZL7Xjog To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Kremsmunster MS's
Hello baroque lutenists, I just found some pieces from Kremsmunster L82, L83 on fronimo group. The pieces are facile (not all of them) and nice. I am very curious about this source. Can anybody tell me something about this? Links on net would be very helpful also. Thank you, Caius -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Monteverdi-Lamento d Arianna
Hello lutenists and guitarists, I was searching a lot for a nice edition of Monteverdi s Arianna for continuo and one voice (the complete thing not only Lasciate mi morire) as I have one but it s not so perfect. I would apreciate if anybody can send me a link or a pdf. Thank you in advance, Caius -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Introduction to guitar
Hy, I am quite new to baroque guitar and I try now to get as much material as possible. I would appreciate any help in scores, books and resources on internet. Thank you, Caius -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Introduction to guitar
Hy, I am quite new to baroque guitar and I try now to get as much material as possible. I would appreciate any help in scores, books and resources on internet. Thank you, Caius -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: couperin lecons
--- On Tue, 2/8/11, hera caius wrote: From: hera caius Subject: couperin lecons To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Tuesday, February 8, 2011, 2:34 PM I was trying to find the complete score for Couperin s Lecons de tenebre...on the net. Does anybody knows a place where I can find it in pdf or other format? Thanks. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] couperin lecons
I was trying to find the complete score for Couperin s Lecons de tenebre...on the net. Does anybody knows a place where I can find it in pdf or other format? Thanks. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Theorbo strings
Hello lutenists, As I played theorbo really a lot this months, I started to wonder about the sound of the strings. In this moment I use some Nylon and carbon in the high registers and some copper on the basses and it sounds really good but the basses sounds too long and the tension of the treble strings is too low. Can anyone give me some ideas what kind of strings I can try (with sound closer to gut), and where can I buy? Thank you. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Caccini- youtube
Hy lutenists, I have uploaded a new video on my youtube channel, this time it's a Caccini piece. Hope you enjoy. (The quality of recording is not perfect, but the interpretation of the singer is great) [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo8_XRUwABo&feature=player_embedde d -- References 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo8_XRUwABo&feature=player_embedded To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Caccini- youtube
Hy lutenists, I have uploaded a new video on my youtube channel, this time it's a Caccini piece. Hope you enjoy. (The quality of recording is not perfect, but the interpretation of the singer is great) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo8_XRUwABo&feature=player_embedded -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Early Baroque Project
I have just finished a small tour with hungarian singer Judit Andrejszki (excelent singer and musician). If you have time and interest, please watch this recording of a live performance Thanx http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYDI0V1EfCo -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Early Baroque Project
I have just finished a small tour with hungarian singer Judit Andrejszki (excelent singer and musician). If you have time and interest, please watch this recording of a live performance Thanx http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYDI0V1EfCo -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] viol and theorbo
Hello lute players, I am searching for some music for renaissance viol and theorbo... Can anyone point some sources on the net? Or if somebody have some files to share I would be gratefull. Many thanks. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: azzaiolo
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[LUTE] Re: another lute example
--0-1636639325-1191223122=:24580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit You can also use distorsion, and you can also play with a hammer...this represents our time... I think that a person who plays lute music wants to re-create the atmosphere of the times when lute was played. If we bring the lute to close to our new estetics in arts I think we will loose it very soon. It doesn't matter if we play a fancy by Dowland 1000 times, because it will always remain beautifull, we don't have to improve it. I've heard some recordings of a very good lute player (R.L.) who tried to make GGK and baroque spanish guitar music sound like it was written yesterday, but he was very much attached with the original style of the interpretation. I don't think that beeing in the XXI century allowes us to do everything we think it's wright because the next generations maybe will laugh at us... So: I think we should be very carefull what we leave behind... Note: forwarded message attached. - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. --0-1636639325-1191223122=:24580 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit You can also use distorsion, and you can also play with a hammer...this represents our time... I think that a person who plays lute music wants to re-create the atmosphere of the times when lute was played. If we bring the lute to close to our new estetics in arts I think we will loose it very soon. It doesn't matter if we play a fancy by Dowland 1000 times, because it will always remain beautifull, we don't have to improve it. I've heard some recordings of a very good lute player (R.L.) who tried to make GGK and baroque spanish guitar music sound like it was written yesterday, but he was very much attached with the original style of the interpretation. I don't think that beeing in the XXI century allowes us to do everything we think it's wright because the next generations maybe will laugh at us... So: I think we should be very carefull what we leave behind... Note: forwarded message attached. Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48224/*http://sims.yahoo.com/";>Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. --0-1636639325-1191223122=:24580-- -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] viola da gamba
I know this is not a comercial site but I have to sell a viola da gamba bass 7 strings, if somebody knows enybody or somebody is interested I have pictures available at request, it's 79cm, exelent bass sound, fresh new, and not so expensive, made by a Romanian lute and viols maker, it comes with bow and soft case. [EMAIL PROTECTED] or this adress. - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] baroque lute pieces
For anyone interested I had posted some well known pieces on myspace. www.myspace.com/caiushera - Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] the best Bach
I do not want to say that Paul O'Dette's recording of Bach is the best ever, I said it is just very interesting to hear such a recording from a "mostly renaissanace player". In my opinion the best Bach (on lute) ever to be recorded is Eugen Dombois (Die Barock Laute)... But anyway, choosing from so many recordings of Bach is very hard and I think that at one point this is a matter of personal taste (of course if we talk only about very good players). I'm personaly very glad that Paul O'Dette has recorded this CD, but as I said it's a matter of personal taste... So... - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Somethimes it's better to talk about those things than music!! Really! We can make it without music but without food... - Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Bach in our attention
First thing: -if someone is tired of Bach, it means that person is tired of music. I have listen to many recordings of bach lutes suites (and partitas) on classical guitar, baroque guitar, baroque lute, archlute, baroque lute, lute-harpsichord etc, and I'm never tired of listten to another interpretation. For example a few days ago I just got an quite old CD by Junghanel playing Bach-so perfect that I have listen it for 10 times in one day (even if I know the suites by heart). Second thing: -Paul O'Dette is one of the best lute players nowadays and I think that there are many people who listten to his CDs and who observed his carrer in time. He played renaissance music for almost his entire carrer(he also played other lutes but not so much like renaissance lute-and I have all his CDs). Usualy contemporary lute players have many types of instruments and try to change them all the time but Paul O'Dette was not touching the baroque lute for recordings (only theorbos and similar instruments) so now this recording at this point of O'Dette's carrer is welcomed. That's why I think that this Bach version deservs our attention! P.S.If someone doesn't share my feelings about this, it's ok by me...! - Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: tab search - 2 pieces by Negri.
--0-395675017-1185793856=:60722 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit All the pieces in Cesare Negri' dance tutor are very beautifull but unfortunately very short...and if someone wants to use pieces like those in a lute recital I think is very important to find a way of interpretation. For example I think it's interesting to group a few pieces maybe which sound's alike or even diferent as character, and make some suites with pieces that are repeting or something like this. Another thing is to use a melodic instrument who can play the melody and you can repeat the piece using ornaments. Even more...you can split the original tablature in voices and use an instrumental group with the lute playing all the voices.(or lute quartet).I think if someone have imagination he can do very interesting things with very small pieces...or make gold from ordinary stones... Note: forwarded message attached. - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. --0-395675017-1185793856=:60722 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit All the pieces in Cesare Negri' dance tutor are very beautifull but unfortunately very short...and if someone wants to use pieces like those in a lute recital I think is very important to find a way of interpretation. For example I think it's interesting to group a few pieces maybe which sound's alike or even diferent as character, and make some suites with pieces that are repeting or something like this. Another thing is to use a melodic instrument who can play the melody and you can repeat the piece using ornaments. Even more...you can split the original tablature in voices and use an instrumental group with the lute playing all the voices.(or lute quartet).I think if someone have imagination he can do very interesting things with very small pieces...or make gold from ordinary stones...Note: forwarded message attached. Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48251/*http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting/?p=PASSPORTPLUS";>all the tools to get online. --0-395675017-1185793856=:60722-- -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] explain some things
I'm very sorry to say this but I think that sometimes people are getting a little frustrated here. OK by me. Good luck! I think music is something for the heart not for the mind.Especially lute music! - Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Paul O'Dette-Bach
It's very hard just to enjoy something very beautifull. I think we should try... Why not? It's not so hard - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Paul O'Dette goes baroque
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[LUTE] Paul O'Dette goes baroque
http://www.amazon.com/Lute-Works-1-Bach/dp/B000Q6ZUS0/ref=sr_1_225/105-0774834-4134852?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1185696517&sr=1-225 Has anyone from the list seen this? I think this is the greatest thing this year!! Really huge!! - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Continuo
I hope you don't mind if I say a few words. I have a baroque lute (d minor tuining 13 course) and from the first day I had it I began to learn the notes in all the positions on the fretboard I did the same thing on the renaissance lute and also on one vihuela in a (now I have a vihuela in G) and I think that this is the greatest thing to discover yourself the chords in all positions and to improvise on them. Also a very important thing that I've done is that I've learned some grounds like: La Folia, Passacaglia, Ciaconna etc and I was trying to improvise upon them and in this way I've created a very strong image on the base and the function of the chords. ariel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear friends, I've recently become interested in early seventeenth century continuo playing. I don't have professional ambitions with the subject, but I'd like to give it a serious try this summer. I'm starting to collect some published material, and would like to know if there's any book which is a must having. Found some really useful stuff on the web, and would like to know if there's anyone who has done (or knows about) a sort of a chord chart for g' tunning (for a ten course or an archlute, for instances), which takes care of proper voice leading, as you can see in many jazz guitar methods, to give an example. I will really appreciate any advice from players of all levels here! Thanks in advance, Ariel. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html - Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. --
[LUTE] Schola Cantorum Basiliensis
Hello, my name is Caius Hera, I'm from Timisoara Romania, one of the very few lutenists here(the one and only baroque lute player, I also play vihuela, renaissance lute and a discant viola da gamba). From oktober I'm student at Schola with Hoppy. I'm looking for a place to stay in Basel (really cheap). Does anyone from this list live in Basel or can tell me where I can find somethig very cheap there. Switzerland its a little bit expensive and I'll be there for 4 or 5 years! Thanks! - Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Johann Georg Albrechtsberger
Hello to all, I have recently heard an complete CD with J. G. Albrechtsberger's concertos for Jew (Jaw) Harp, mandora and strings (Konzerte fur Maultrommel, Mandora un Streicher). It is really funny (I think one of the most funniest concertos ever...). I'm curious if somebody have the scores to this concertos. I'm very curious about the notation of both the solo instruments and how its fits into this galant style. Thank you. - Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] italian renaissance
Does anybody knows something about this piece An.- Villanella `Orlando fa' che ti raccordi' I love this piece and I want to have it. If somebody have it I would be greatefull if one can sewn me on mail. Thanks. - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] SEMAI-BAROQUE
For anyone who is interested! I have just an very interesting project named SEMAI-BAROQUE which includes oriental and baroque music in the same time: KOLIAVASILS SPYROS - oud bashir CAIUS HERA - baroque 13c lute the programme is very interesting and includes pieces by:Robert de Vise, Weiss, Dimitrie Cantemir (who was ruller of Moldavia in the XVII century and lived a few years in Istambul and wrote some music for ney and tanbur - a sort of long neck/small body lute used in ottoman music), some traditional ottoman music and also greek and improvisations on grounds like Ciaccona, Folia and Pasacaglia. We had a few concerts (very well claimed) and I hope we will make an professional CD with a booklet explaining all the music inside. I'm not shure but I think this is an unique experiment (or one of the very few). - Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] SEMAI-BAROQUE
--0-729495233-1183109717=:52527 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit For anyone who is interested! I have just an very interesting project named SEMAI-BAROQUE which includes oriental and baroque music in the same time: KOLIAVASILS SPYROS - oud bashir CAIUS HERA - baroque 13c lute the programme is very interesting and includes pieces by:Robert de Vise, Weiss, Dimitrie Cantemir (who was ruller of Moldavia in the XVII century and lived a few years in Istambul and wrote some music for ney and tanbur - a sort of long neck/small body lute used in ottoman music), some traditional ottoman music and also greek and improvisations on grounds like Ciaccona, Folia and Pasacaglia. We had a few concerts (very well claimed) and I hope we will make an professional CD with a booklet explaining all the music inside. I'm not shure but I think this is an unique experiment (or one of the very few). - Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. --0-729495233-1183109717=:52527 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit For anyone who is interested! I have just an very interesting project named SEMAI-BAROQUE which includes oriental and baroque music in the same time: KOLIAVASILS SPYROS - oud bashir CAIUS HERA - baroque 13c lute the programme is very interesting and includes pieces by:Robert de Vise, Weiss, Dimitrie Cantemir (who was ruller of Moldavia in the XVII century and lived a few years in Istambul and wrote some music for ney and tanbur - a sort of long neck/small body lute used in ottoman music), some traditional ottoman music and also greek and improvisations on grounds like Ciaccona, Folia and Pasacaglia. We had a few concerts (very well claimed) and I hope we will make an professional CD with a booklet explaining all the music inside. I'm not shure but I think this is an unique experiment (or one of the very few). Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=47093/*http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222";>Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. --0-729495233-1183109717=:52527-- -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute Chord Confusion
--0-1803022619-1181921794=:59745 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit My personal opinion... You have to learn all the notes on the fingerboard before even trying to write something for lute, and this depends on the tuning of your lute. I personally learned by myself all the notes from the first to the 12th position in the first mounth of study. I do not think that you need to have a book with chords...if you have litlle theorethical knowledge of harmony is very easy to find all the chords you need. P.S. In the past they were transcribing huge motets and masses (poliphony)... and they were doying this without the score, but only parts! Hm! Note: forwarded message attached. - Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. --0-1803022619-1181921794=:59745 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit My personal opinion... You have to learn all the notes on the fingerboard before even trying to write something for lute, and this depends on the tuning of your lute. I personally learned by myself all the notes from the first to the 12th position in the first mounth of study. I do not think that you need to have a book with chords...if you have litlle theorethical knowledge of harmony is very easy to find all the chords you need. P.S. In the past they were transcribing huge motets and masses (poliphony)... and they were doying this without the score, but only parts! Hm! Note: forwarded message attached. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48250/*http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v9.php?o=US2226&cmp=Yahoo&ctv=AprNI&s=Y&s2=EM&b=50";>Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. --0-1803022619-1181921794=:59745-- -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: lute sighting
Not so nice! Stuart LeBlanc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2007/06/yoga_slideshow200706?slid e=7 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html - Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. --
[LUTE] Re: Novice question - cleaning a soundboard.
Received: from [89.122.152.168] by web52404.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 13 May 2007 08:41:27 PDT Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 08:41:27 -0700 (PDT) From: hera caius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LUTE] Novice question - cleaning a soundboard. To: John Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-588351880-1179070887=:56241" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1050 --0-588351880-1179070887=:56241 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I think the best solution is to take a small piece of cloth and some turpentine (it is used for dilute oil colours - I think you can find it in a painting shop), or you can make an combination of turpentine and white wax mixed together at small fire in a recipient. John Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi - this is SO basic that I'm ashamed to be asking... but here goes. My little student lute has an unvarnished spruce soundboard. I wash my hands before playing, but because spruce is so light in colour and there's no varnish to repel smudges, I can already see that it might eventually end up looking pretty grubby. Am I right in thinking that taking a damp cloth to the thin unvarnished wood would not be a good idea? Failing that, is there any recommended cleaning method, or should I just come to regard some smudges as part of the instrument's 'character'? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html - Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. --0-588351880-1179070887=:56241 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I think the best solution is to take a small piece of cloth and some turpentine (it is used for dilute oil colours - I think you can find it in a painting shop), or you can make an combination of turpentine and white wax mixed together at small fire in a recipient.John Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi - this is SO basic that I'm ashamed to be asking... but here goes.My little student lute has an unvarnished spruce soundboard. I wash myhands before playing, but because spruce is so light in colour andthere's no varnish to repel smudges, I can already see that it mighteventually end up looking pretty grubby.Am I right in thinking that taking a damp cloth to the thin unvarnishedwood would not be a good idea? Failing that, is there any recommendedcleaning method, or should I just come to regard some smudges as part ofthe instrument's 'character'?To get on or off this list see list information athttp://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49678/*http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL";> Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=49678/*http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL";>Yahoo! Small Business. --0-588351880-1179070887=:56241-- --
[LUTE] PAUL THOMSON
I need to speak to somebody who have a Paul Thomson lute of any kind (bought from him). I'm curious about how to buy a lute from him. And how fast does he works. incl prices - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] copy
anyway...what is copywrighted and what not? I had noticed that the internet lute society is dead and I didn't understand why. I think it was a great source for all sorts of lute players especially beginers or intermediate level (even advanced). Civiol's site is really great. And there are a lot of pieces which are played on many great recordings, and are superbly edited. ANd there are a few sites very interesting with lute tablatures including the genial G. Bookshelf. I think that musical notes begin to be important only when there are a lot of recordings of it and concerts, till then are obscure and non important...my opinion! I think a lot about the lute players from Renaissance and Baroque with their books writen by their own hand, I have a few facsimiles, they were playing a very clear repertory, for us is very hard because we have so many things...I have noticed a very interesting thing: some of the greatest lute players in the world are using tablatures transcribed by their own hand, I've try to do this but is very hard to have a nice writing on tablature, but I like the idea in the sense of learning the piece before taking up the lute, and also because all the music in every piece really pass through your fingers. I think the most beautifull thing is that every lute player can go to every library where there are lute tablatures and to copy it by hand, this I would like to do very much, to see the original, to feel it and to make my own version of every one of it. - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] thanks
Thank you all, I'm not living in Transilvania (Roman), It doesn't exist... But I'm living in a place somehow hostile to early music which had not give anithing big in this area but we have a great lute player, a guy named Valentin Greff Bakfark. Anyway in our librairies in all the cities from Romania you can find I think maibe max. 10 books...so that's why I was looking for a place to download on the net... - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Francesco
does anyone knows a place on the internet where I can find a complete edition of Francesco da Milano's work by NessDownloadable...free - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] lute strings
I use Savarez for years gut and ny and silver, mostly common. Can anyone tell me wich is the best choise of strings, (maker...)and not so expensive (if it's not to much). Thanks to all - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
