[LUTE] Re: Appropriate instrument for Bernard de Ventadorn
On 04/06/2015 10:15, David van Ooijen wrote: I add a bass of sorts (simple, drone like, non-harmonic yet supportive if this makes sense) and improvise continuo: no thirds (or few thirds), imitations of phrase-endings (often overlapping), instrumental intreludes based upon the vocal line, but freely embellished/changed/improvised. I like to take Andrew Lawrence King and friend's accompaniments of the repertoire as an example. Listen for example to the CD Proensa with Paul Hillier. I don't know if it's authentic, but I do know it's convincing. David Very interesting David! Stuart *** David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [2]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** On 4 June 2015 at 10:40, WALSH STUART [3]s.wa...@ntlworld.com wrote: Hello Lutekin! What plucked instrument would be appropriate for accompanying the works of Bernard de Ventadorn? Thanks in advance, Edward Yong Gittern, citole. But I wonder what an accompaniment would be. A 'mere' drone? Can't be major or minor chords! Random fourths and fifths? A counter melody? Stuart tou%to ylektroniko'n taxudromei'on ek ei'Fwnou emeu% epe'mfthy. Hae litterae electronicae ab iPhono missae sunt. iPhone._ This e-mail was sent from my iPhone. To get on or off this list see list information at [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html . --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. [5]https://www.avast.com/antivirus __ [6]Avast logo This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. [7]www.avast.com -- References 1. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 2. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ 3. mailto:s.wa...@ntlworld.com 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html 5. https://www.avast.com/antivirus 6. https://www.avast.com/antivirus 7. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
[LUTE] Re: Appropriate instrument for Bernard de Ventadorn
Gittern, I suppose. Nice little harp would do well. I used a 10-course some weeks ago. Only four centuries off! ;-) David (dodging early music police flak) PS: Come to think of it, I accompanied L'Amours Dont Sui Espris on a romantic guitar last Sunday. What's another two centuries? *** David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [2]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** On 4 June 2015 at 10:14, Edward Chrysogonus Yong [3]edward.y...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Lutekin! What plucked instrument would be appropriate for accompanying the works of Bernard de Ventadorn? Thanks in advance, Edward Yong II?III? I.IIuI-oIII?I 1/2I^1I-oII 1/2 II+-III'II?I 1/4IuI-I?I 1/2 IuI-o IuI-I|II 1/2I?I IuI 1/4IuI IuIII 1/4II,I.. HA| litterA| electronicA| ab iPhono missA| sunt. aeCUReaaeuaeP:c, 1/4eae-oe-aaa 3/4iPhonea This e-mail was sent from my iPhone. To get on or off this list see list information at [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 2. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ 3. mailto:edward.y...@gmail.com 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Appropriate instrument for Bernard de Ventadorn
Hello Lutekin! What plucked instrument would be appropriate for accompanying the works of Bernard de Ventadorn? Thanks in advance, Edward Yong Gittern, citole. But I wonder what an accompaniment would be. A 'mere' drone? Can't be major or minor chords! Random fourths and fifths? A counter melody? Stuart τούτο ηλεκτρονικόν ταχυδρομείον εκ είΦωνου εμεύ επέμφθη. Hæ litteræ electronicæ ab iPhono missæ sunt. 此電子郵件發送于自吾iPhone。 This e-mail was sent from my iPhone. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html . --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
[LUTE] Re: Appropriate instrument for Bernard de Ventadorn
who knows?, certainly not a lute, which was not yet introduced in France, if you really want to use a plucked instrument maybe it could be a gittern, a citole or a psaltery, but there is no evidence Davide Rebuffa Il giorno 04/giu/2015, alle ore 10:14, Edward Chrysogonus Yong edward.y...@gmail.com ha scritto: Hello Lutekin! What plucked instrument would be appropriate for accompanying the works of Bernard de Ventadorn? Thanks in advance, Edward Yong τούτο ηλεκτρονικόν ταχυδρομείον εκ είΦωνου εμεύ επέμφθη. Hæ litteræ electronicæ ab iPhono missæ sunt. 此電子郵件發送于自吾iPhone。 This e-mail was sent from my iPhone. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Appropriate instrument for Bernard de Ventadorn
I add a bass of sorts (simple, drone like, non-harmonic yet supportive if this makes sense) and improvise continuo: no thirds (or few thirds), imitations of phrase-endings (often overlapping), instrumental intreludes based upon the vocal line, but freely embellished/changed/improvised. I like to take Andrew Lawrence King and friend's accompaniments of the repertoire as an example. Listen for example to the CD Proensa with Paul Hillier. I don't know if it's authentic, but I do know it's convincing. DavidA *** David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [2]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** On 4 June 2015 at 10:40, WALSH STUART [3]s.wa...@ntlworld.com wrote: Hello Lutekin! What plucked instrument would be appropriate for accompanying the works of Bernard de Ventadorn? Thanks in advance, Edward Yong Gittern, citole. But I wonder what an accompaniment would be. A 'mere' drone? Can't be major or minor chords! Random fourths and fifths? A counter melody? Stuart II?III? I.IIuI-oIII?I 1/2I^1I-oII 1/2 II+-III'II?I 1/4IuI-I?I 1/2 IuI-o IuI-I|II 1/2I?I IuI 1/4IuI IuIII 1/4II,I.. HA| litterA| electronicA| ab iPhono missA| sunt. aeCUReaaeuaeP:c, 1/4eae-oe-aaa 3/4iPhonea This e-mail was sent from my iPhone. To get on or off this list see list information at [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html . --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. [5]https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- References 1. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 2. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ 3. mailto:s.wa...@ntlworld.com 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 5. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
[LUTE] Re: Appropriate instrument for Bernard de Ventadorn
Thanks! I suppose it’s a matter of not only the right instrument, but also making it convincing in terms of style… Oh dear! :D Edward On 4 Jun 2015, at 5:25 pm, WALSH STUART s.wa...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 04/06/2015 10:15, David van Ooijen wrote: I add a bass of sorts (simple, drone like, non-harmonic yet supportive if this makes sense) and improvise continuo: no thirds (or few thirds), imitations of phrase-endings (often overlapping), instrumental intreludes based upon the vocal line, but freely embellished/changed/improvised. I like to take Andrew Lawrence King and friend's accompaniments of the repertoire as an example. Listen for example to the CD Proensa with Paul Hillier. I don't know if it's authentic, but I do know it's convincing. David Very interesting David! Stuart *** David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [2]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** On 4 June 2015 at 10:40, WALSH STUART [3]s.wa...@ntlworld.com wrote: Hello Lutekin! What plucked instrument would be appropriate for accompanying the works of Bernard de Ventadorn? Thanks in advance, Edward Yong Gittern, citole. But I wonder what an accompaniment would be. A 'mere' drone? Can't be major or minor chords! Random fourths and fifths? A counter melody? Stuart tou%to ylektroniko'n taxudromei'on ek ei'Fwnou emeu% epe'mfthy. Hae litterae electronicae ab iPhono missae sunt. iPhone._ This e-mail was sent from my iPhone. To get on or off this list see list information at [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html . --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. [5]https://www.avast.com/antivirus __ [6]Avast logo This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. [7]www.avast.com -- References 1. mailto:davidvanooi...@gmail.com 2. http://www.davidvanooijen.nl/ 3. mailto:s.wa...@ntlworld.com 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html 5. https://www.avast.com/antivirus 6. https://www.avast.com/antivirus 7. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
