[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books
OK. Very clever. Fooled me :). dt At 06:11 AM 4/7/2008, you wrote: David: Not this version. Look again. Ron Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 14:04:59 -0700 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books Thanks Ron, I have Dowland's adew already :) dt At 05:10 AM 4/5/2008, you wrote: David: See attached. You want a new Monteverdi opera? No problem... Ron Andrico Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 01:47:59 -0700 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books Thanks so much. that is very interesting. It is amazing that books of all kinds are still appearing. Perhaps I'll see a new Monteverdi opera someday. dt At 07:58 AM 4/4/2008, you wrote: Dear David, There are more than two extant copies of LOST. Five were listed in the introduction to the Severinus facsimile. Since then another has come to light. The six extant copies are listed in the introduction to the Fretwork edition: 1) London, British Library, K.2.i.16; 2) London, Royal Academy of Music, Spencer Collection 774-1001; 3) Privately owned by C. J. J. Philipps of London; 4) Lincoln, Cathedral Library, Aa.2.17.(5.); 5) Manchester, Henry Watson Music Library, B.R.f410DS408; 6) Tokyo, Ueno Gakuen College, acquired through Quaritch of London from the collection of H. L. Bradfer-Lawrence. The few significant differences are mentioned in the Severinus introduction, and more detail (e.g. including differences in spelling of the titles) is given in the Fretwork edition. Best wishes, Stewart McCoy. -Original Message- From: David Tayler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2008 06:39 To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books I think there are only two of LOST Lachrimae or Seven Tears, each different. dt To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Get in touch in an instant. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGL M_WL_Refresh_getintouch_042008Get Windows Live Messenger now. -- -- Going green? http://green.msn.com/galleries/photos/photos.aspx?gid=164ocid=T003MSN51N1653ASee the top 12 foods to eat organic. --
[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books
Thanks Ron, I have Dowland's adew already :) dt At 05:10 AM 4/5/2008, you wrote: David: See attached. You want a new Monteverdi opera? No problem... Ron Andrico Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2008 01:47:59 -0700 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books Thanks so much. that is very interesting. It is amazing that books of all kinds are still appearing. Perhaps I'll see a new Monteverdi opera someday. dt At 07:58 AM 4/4/2008, you wrote: Dear David, There are more than two extant copies of LOST. Five were listed in the introduction to the Severinus facsimile. Since then another has come to light. The six extant copies are listed in the introduction to the Fretwork edition: 1) London, British Library, K.2.i.16; 2) London, Royal Academy of Music, Spencer Collection 774-1001; 3) Privately owned by C. J. J. Philipps of London; 4) Lincoln, Cathedral Library, Aa.2.17.(5.); 5) Manchester, Henry Watson Music Library, B.R.f410DS408; 6) Tokyo, Ueno Gakuen College, acquired through Quaritch of London from the collection of H. L. Bradfer-Lawrence. The few significant differences are mentioned in the Severinus introduction, and more detail (e.g. including differences in spelling of the titles) is given in the Fretwork edition. Best wishes, Stewart McCoy. -Original Message- From: David Tayler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2008 06:39 To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books I think there are only two of LOST Lachrimae or Seven Tears, each different. dt To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Get in touch in an instant. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_getintouch_042008Get Windows Live Messenger now. --
[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books
Thanks so much. that is very interesting. It is amazing that books of all kinds are still appearing. Perhaps I'll see a new Monteverdi opera someday. dt At 07:58 AM 4/4/2008, you wrote: Dear David, There are more than two extant copies of LOST. Five were listed in the introduction to the Severinus facsimile. Since then another has come to light. The six extant copies are listed in the introduction to the Fretwork edition: 1) London, British Library, K.2.i.16; 2) London, Royal Academy of Music, Spencer Collection 774-1001; 3) Privately owned by C. J. J. Philipps of London; 4) Lincoln, Cathedral Library, Aa.2.17.(5.); 5) Manchester, Henry Watson Music Library, B.R.f410DS408; 6) Tokyo, Ueno Gakuen College, acquired through Quaritch of London from the collection of H. L. Bradfer-Lawrence. The few significant differences are mentioned in the Severinus introduction, and more detail (e.g. including differences in spelling of the titles) is given in the Fretwork edition. Best wishes, Stewart McCoy. -Original Message- From: David Tayler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2008 06:39 To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books I think there are only two of LOST Lachrimae or Seven Tears, each different. dt To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books
Stainer and Bell in the UK have published all Dowland's songs in reliable modern editions - including lute tablature and transcription: http://www.stainer.co.uk/dowland.html Rob MacKillop -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books
On Wednesday 02 April 2008 21:53, Christopher Stetson rattled on the keyboard: Here are links for the Dover editions: http://store.doverpublications.com/048629935x.html http://store.doverpublications.com/0486422445.html Jeffrey Noonan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/2/2008 1:12 pm Take care with these Dover editions. They contain many mistakes and are difficult to read (even if you have excellent eyes) because the lute tab is printed in a tiny font. And because of the guitar staff there is again page turning problems.The stainer edition is much better but ridiculous expensive. The Broude facsimiles are still the best editions and very readable. Taco To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books
Dear Rob all: I have to say that one must approach even the sainted SB editions with a bit of caution. The poetry retains many of the 'corrections' perpetrated by Fellows, who should be commended for his pioneering work but scolded for messing with the texts. It is worth the bother to check the SB editions against the facsimiles, Diana Poulton's Dowland biography (with song-by-song analysis), and Doughtie's _Lyrics from English Airs_. It seems like a great deal of trouble just to sing some lute songs, doesn't it? Best wishes, Ron Andrico http://www.mignarda.com Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 07:47:58 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books Stainer and Bell in the UK have published all Dowland's songs in reliable modern editions - including lute tablature and transcription: http://www.stainer.co.uk/dowland.html Rob MacKillop -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html _ Pack up or back up-use SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies. Learn how. hthttp://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_packup_042008 --
[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books
I bow to your superior knowledge, Ron. It is an area I will be looking into eventually. The SB editions seem a good place to start, plus the facsimiles. Have the Poulton biog. Rob On 03/04/2008, Ron Andrico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Rob all: I have to say that one must approach even the sainted SB editions with a bit of caution. The poetry retains many of the 'corrections' perpetrated by Fellows, who should be commended for his pioneering work but scolded for messing with the texts. It is worth the bother to check the SB editions against the facsimiles, Diana Poulton's Dowland biography (with song-by-song analysis), and Doughtie's _Lyrics from English Airs_. It seems like a great deal of trouble just to sing some lute songs, doesn't it? Best wishes, Ron Andrico http://www.mignarda.com Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 07:47:58 +0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books Stainer and Bell in the UK have published all Dowland's songs in reliable modern editions - including lute tablature and transcription: http://www.stainer.co.uk/dowland.html Rob MacKillop -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Pack up or back up-use SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies. Learn how. --
[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books
On Wednesday 02 April 2008 08:23, Omer katzir rattled on the keyboard: Does any one know where i can buy/download Dowland's books? The versions on the net are written for 8 or more course while I'm playing 7 like our not so dear Mr. Dowland. Need it for a project. Thank you all and have a really nice day! Hi, an often used edition is the Diane Poulton edition with the collected music (almost complete, and some pieces which are - I think- not by dowland).Published by faber faber. (with horrible staff notes, so lots of page turning) Can be found on amazon and many musicshops will have it in stock. Don't forget to take a large wallet. The pieces by dowland are for a mix of lutes sometimes even a 9th course is used. This is because all the pieces come from sources where people arranged it for the lute available. If you have only a 7th course lute available than play the piece on this lute and transpose the bass notes which are too low. Guitarists also play dowland and they have only 6 strings What dowland himself played is almost certainly a mix of lutes. The only published pieces by him were his super popular lutesongs and they also ask for an 8 course lute. Taco To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books
Hi, all, If it is the books of songs that you're looking for, Dover Publications has (or had) an inexpensive modern edition; complete, 2 books to the volume. They include original ( i.e., modern typeset) tab, staff notation for capoed guitar with F# 3rd, and voice. Very nice, as these things go. Are facsimilies available anywhere online? Best to all, C. Taco Walstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/2/2008 3:12:42 am On Wednesday 02 April 2008 08:23, Omer katzir rattled on the keyboard: Does any one know where i can buy/download Dowland's books? The versions on the net are written for 8 or more course while I'm playing 7 like our not so dear Mr. Dowland. Need it for a project. Thank you all and have a really nice day! Hi, an often used edition is the Diane Poulton edition with the collected music (almost complete, and some pieces which are - I think- not by dowland).Published by faber faber. (with horrible staff notes, so lots of page turning) Can be found on amazon and many musicshops will have it in stock. Don't forget to take a large wallet. The pieces by dowland are for a mix of lutes sometimes even a 9th course is used. This is because all the pieces come from sources where people arranged it for the lute available. If you have only a 7th course lute available than play the piece on this lute and transpose the bass notes which are too low. Guitarists also play dowland and they have only 6 strings What dowland himself played is almost certainly a mix of lutes. The only published pieces by him were his super popular lutesongs and they also ask for an 8 course lute. Taco To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books
Broude Brothers Performer's Facsimile Series--lute song books by Dowland and others as well as Robert Dowland's Varietie of Lute Lessons. They used to be priced around $18-25 per book. Broude does have the occasional sale where you can save 10-20% if you spend enough $$, but OMI should have these as well. jeff Christopher Stetson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all, If it is the books of songs that you're looking for, Dover Publications has (or had) an inexpensive modern edition; complete, 2 books to the volume. They include original ( i.e., modern typeset) tab, staff notation for capoed guitar with F# 3rd, and voice. Very nice, as these things go. Are facsimilies available anywhere online? Best to all, C. Taco Walstra 4/2/2008 3:12:42 am On Wednesday 02 April 2008 08:23, Omer katzir rattled on the keyboard: Does any one know where i can buy/download Dowland's books? The versions on the net are written for 8 or more course while I'm playing 7 like our not so dear Mr. Dowland. Need it for a project. Thank you all and have a really nice day! Hi, an often used edition is the Diane Poulton edition with the collected music (almost complete, and some pieces which are - I think- not by dowland).Published by faber faber. (with horrible staff notes, so lots of page turning) Can be found on amazon and many musicshops will have it in stock. Don't forget to take a large wallet. The pieces by dowland are for a mix of lutes sometimes even a 9th course is used. This is because all the pieces come from sources where people arranged it for the lute available. If you have only a 7th course lute available than play the piece on this lute and transpose the bass notes which are too low. Guitarists also play dowland and they have only 6 strings What dowland himself played is almost certainly a mix of lutes. The only published pieces by him were his super popular lutesongs and they also ask for an 8 course lute. Taco To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books
Here are links for the Dover editions: http://store.doverpublications.com/048629935x.html http://store.doverpublications.com/0486422445.html Jeffrey Noonan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/2/2008 1:12 pm Broude Brothers Performer's Facsimile Series--lute song books by Dowland and others as well as Robert Dowland's Varietie of Lute Lessons. They used to be priced around $18-25 per book. Broude does have the occasional sale where you can save 10-20% if you spend enough $$, but OMI should have these as well. jeff Christopher Stetson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all, If it is the books of songs that you're looking for, Dover Publications has (or had) an inexpensive modern edition; complete, 2 books to the volume. They include original ( i.e., modern typeset) tab, staff notation for capoed guitar with F# 3rd, and voice. Very nice, as these things go. Are facsimilies available anywhere online? Best to all, C. Taco Walstra 4/2/2008 3:12:42 am On Wednesday 02 April 2008 08:23, Omer katzir rattled on the keyboard: Does any one know where i can buy/download Dowland's books? The versions on the net are written for 8 or more course while I'm playing 7 like our not so dear Mr. Dowland. Need it for a project. Thank you all and have a really nice day! Hi, an often used edition is the Diane Poulton edition with the collected music (almost complete, and some pieces which are - I think- not by dowland).Published by faber faber. (with horrible staff notes, so lots of page turning) Can be found on amazon and many musicshops will have it in stock. Don't forget to take a large wallet. The pieces by dowland are for a mix of lutes sometimes even a 9th course is used. This is because all the pieces come from sources where people arranged it for the lute available. If you have only a 7th course lute available than play the piece on this lute and transpose the bass notes which are too low. Guitarists also play dowland and they have only 6 strings What dowland himself played is almost certainly a mix of lutes. The only published pieces by him were his super popular lutesongs and they also ask for an 8 course lute. Taco To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books
Here is the OMI list. They have all the books of ayres, plus other things. http://www.omifacsimiles.com/cats/lute.pdf I may have mentioned this. The third boook was offered for sale by an Ameriucan antiquarian for $15,000 and a few years later, marked down for quick sale to $13,500. I understand rare books are not necessarily a good invenstment. You can do better in the stock market. And who wants to worry about losing such a treasure if you kept it at home. One of seven copies from the original press run of 1250 copies. =AJN (Boston, Mass.)= Free Download of the Week This week's free download from Classical Music Library is Ginastera's Estancia Suite, Op. 8a, performed by the Carlos Chavez Symphony Orchestra; Fernando Lozano, conductor. Click on the CML link here http://mysite.verizon.net/arthurjness/ === - Original Message - From: Christopher Stetson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:53 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books Here are links for the Dover editions: http://store.doverpublications.com/048629935x.html http://store.doverpublications.com/0486422445.html Jeffrey Noonan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/2/2008 1:12 pm Broude Brothers Performer's Facsimile Series--lute song books by Dowland and others as well as Robert Dowland's Varietie of Lute Lessons. They used to be priced around $18-25 per book. Broude does have the occasional sale where you can save 10-20% if you spend enough $$, but OMI should have these as well. jeff Christopher Stetson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all, If it is the books of songs that you're looking for, Dover Publications has (or had) an inexpensive modern edition; complete, 2 books to the volume. They include original ( i.e., modern typeset) tab, staff notation for capoed guitar with F# 3rd, and voice. Very nice, as these things go. Are facsimilies available anywhere online? Best to all, C. Taco Walstra 4/2/2008 3:12:42 am On Wednesday 02 April 2008 08:23, Omer katzir rattled on the keyboard: Does any one know where i can buy/download Dowland's books? The versions on the net are written for 8 or more course while I'm playing 7 like our not so dear Mr. Dowland. Need it for a project. Thank you all and have a really nice day! Hi, an often used edition is the Diane Poulton edition with the collected music (almost complete, and some pieces which are - I think- not by dowland).Published by faber faber. (with horrible staff notes, so lots of page turning) Can be found on amazon and many musicshops will have it in stock. Don't forget to take a large wallet. The pieces by dowland are for a mix of lutes sometimes even a 9th course is used. This is because all the pieces come from sources where people arranged it for the lute available. If you have only a 7th course lute available than play the piece on this lute and transpose the bass notes which are too low. Guitarists also play dowland and they have only 6 strings What dowland himself played is almost certainly a mix of lutes. The only published pieces by him were his super popular lutesongs and they also ask for an 8 course lute. Taco To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books
I think there are only two of LOST Lachrimae or Seven Tears, each different. dt At 02:37 PM 4/2/2008, you wrote: Here is the OMI list. They have all the books of ayres, plus other things. http://www.omifacsimiles.com/cats/lute.pdf I may have mentioned this. The third boook was offered for sale by an Ameriucan antiquarian for $15,000 and a few years later, marked down for quick sale to $13,500. I understand rare books are not necessarily a good invenstment. You can do better in the stock market. And who wants to worry about losing such a treasure if you kept it at home. One of seven copies from the original press run of 1250 copies. =AJN (Boston, Mass.)= Free Download of the Week This week's free download from Classical Music Library is Ginastera's Estancia Suite, Op. 8a, performed by the Carlos Chavez Symphony Orchestra; Fernando Lozano, conductor. Click on the CML link here http://mysite.verizon.net/arthurjness/ === - Original Message - From: Christopher Stetson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:53 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Dowland's Books Here are links for the Dover editions: http://store.doverpublications.com/048629935x.html http://store.doverpublications.com/0486422445.html Jeffrey Noonan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/2/2008 1:12 pm Broude Brothers Performer's Facsimile Series--lute song books by Dowland and others as well as Robert Dowland's Varietie of Lute Lessons. They used to be priced around $18-25 per book. Broude does have the occasional sale where you can save 10-20% if you spend enough $$, but OMI should have these as well. jeff Christopher Stetson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all, If it is the books of songs that you're looking for, Dover Publications has (or had) an inexpensive modern edition; complete, 2 books to the volume. They include original ( i.e., modern typeset) tab, staff notation for capoed guitar with F# 3rd, and voice. Very nice, as these things go. Are facsimilies available anywhere online? Best to all, C. Taco Walstra 4/2/2008 3:12:42 am On Wednesday 02 April 2008 08:23, Omer katzir rattled on the keyboard: Does any one know where i can buy/download Dowland's books? The versions on the net are written for 8 or more course while I'm playing 7 like our not so dear Mr. Dowland. Need it for a project. Thank you all and have a really nice day! Hi, an often used edition is the Diane Poulton edition with the collected music (almost complete, and some pieces which are - I think- not by dowland).Published by faber faber. (with horrible staff notes, so lots of page turning) Can be found on amazon and many musicshops will have it in stock. Don't forget to take a large wallet. The pieces by dowland are for a mix of lutes sometimes even a 9th course is used. This is because all the pieces come from sources where people arranged it for the lute available. If you have only a 7th course lute available than play the piece on this lute and transpose the bass notes which are too low. Guitarists also play dowland and they have only 6 strings What dowland himself played is almost certainly a mix of lutes. The only published pieces by him were his super popular lutesongs and they also ask for an 8 course lute. Taco To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
