[LUTE] Re: Molinaro, Galilei

2008-11-23 Thread Bernd Haegemann

[M. Galilei]

He was an Italian, playing French style in Germany! Much style brise,  
as they say.


Shouldn't that be Italian style in Poland?

B.



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[LUTE] Re: Molinaro, Galilei

2008-11-23 Thread
Dear Bernd, dear all,


why should that be so? Galilei published his book years after he came to
Munich. His years in the service of a nobleman in Poland where than a
thing of the past and his music is really very french in style. There is
certainly some (if not much) Italian style in the threepartite Toccate
which opens the book but to me many of the pieces might have come from a
compatriot of Ballard ... It's certainly possible that I am not as
familiar with Galilei's music as I think I am (having played through
some of the suites but not all and having really come to grips with only
a few pieces at all) but this is my impression.


All best,


Joachim



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 [M. Galilei]
[snip] an Italian, playing French style in Germany! Much style brise,  
  as they say.
 
 Shouldn't that be Italian style in Poland?
 
 B.
 
  
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[LUTE] Re: Molinaro, Galilei

2008-11-23 Thread Bernd Haegemann




Shouldn't that be Italian style in Poland?





why should that be so? Galilei published his book years after he came to
Munich. His years in the service of a nobleman in Poland where than a
thing of the past and his music is really very french in style. There is



.I sort of wanted to add the other half of the story :-)

I have no real insight into the style question. To me M.G. 's style
seemed rather individual. And how much the BallardCo. owe to
Italy I cannot estimate, but I think at that time they were much closer
or dependant than a little bit later on the 11c. and with the accords nouveaux..

best wishes
B.



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[LUTE] Re: Molinaro, Galilei

2008-11-23 Thread
Dear Bernd,

suspect you're right concerning cross-influences in italian and french
repertoire. I did not find the time yet but it may be interesting to
compare what happened to the Air Je treuve sur le herbe assize (or so
- don't have it before my eyes now) when it came into an italian
musician's hands and was forged into a Volta Francese.

All best,

Joachim

Bernd Haegemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
 
 
  Shouldn't that be Italian style in Poland?
 
  
  
  why should that be so? Galilei published his book years after he came to
  Munich. His years in the service of a nobleman in Poland where than a
  thing of the past and his music is really very french in style. There is
 
 
 ..I sort of wanted to add the other half of the story :-)
 
 I have no real insight into the style question. To me M.G. 's style
 seemed rather individual. And how much the BallardCo. owe to
 Italy I cannot estimate, but I think at that time they were much closer
 or dependant than a little bit later on the 11c. and with the accords 
 nouveaux..
 
 best wishes
 B.
 
 


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[LUTE] Re: Molinaro, Galilei

2008-11-22 Thread Ed Durbrow


On Nov 15, 2008, at 9:37 AM, andrei and wrote:


Now I'm curious to know how was his style of
   composition.



He was an Italian, playing French style in Germany! Much style brise,  
as they say.


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[LUTE] Re: Molinaro, Galilei

2008-11-15 Thread David van Ooijen
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:41 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 H M
 Brown, _Instrumental Music printed before 1600_.  Maybe no longer in print

Available in photoreprint from www.iUniverse.com (1999).

Buy now, before this edition, too, will be out of print.

David


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[LUTE] Re: Molinaro, Galilei

2008-11-14 Thread vance wood
I cannot tell you how many books but if you are interested in obtaining some 
of the music you might want to visit here. 
http://www.lute.ru/mirrors/gerbode/ft2/composers/index.php?path=Galilei/
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Subject: [LUTE] Molinaro, Galilei



  Hi to everyone,
  Does someone knows how many books did Simone Molinaro and Vincenzo
  Galilei publish? And when were they publihed?
  And also, where can I find these books to download? If there ain't no
  source to download can someone please, send me a link where I can buy
  these books on the internet?
  Thank you and,
  Greetings to all
  Andrei Vanazzi
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[LUTE] Re: Molinaro, Galilei

2008-11-14 Thread wikla

On 11/14/2008, G. Crona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://gallica.bnf.fr/scripts/ConsultationTout.exe?E=0O=N058217
 
 There was a way to download the whole in one go in PDF, don't remember 
 how  to do it, perhaps somebody else will know? Arto?

Yes, I knew it, but definitely I have forgotten... I just suggest going
to those pages - and if memory serves - you'll find the way to do the
trick... ;-)

 Arto

PS I recommend the music of Vincenco's lesser known son (compared to
Galileo), Michelangelo Galilei, to lutenists. Very clever music! And
just wait a while; you'll get also THAT in the tubes in a while...
;-)



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[LUTE] Re: Molinaro, Galilei

2008-11-14 Thread Anthony Hind


Le 14 nov. 08 à 22:14, G. Crona a écrit :




and the facsimile here:

http://gallica.bnf.fr/scripts/ConsultationTout.exe?E=0O=N058217

There was a way to download the whole in one go in PDF, don't  
remember how to do it, perhaps somebody else will know? Arto?


http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k582176.capture

Just use the link above, and click on telecharge, you will get  
thechoice of PDF or TIFF.

Anyway, It just worked for me.
Anthony


G.


- Original Message - From: andrei and  
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To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:52 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Molinaro, Galilei



  Hi to everyone,
  Does someone knows how many books did Simone Molinaro and Vincenzo
  Galilei publish? And when were they publihed?
  And also, where can I find these books to download? If there  
ain't no
  source to download can someone please, send me a link where I  
can buy

  these books on the internet?
  Thank you and,
  Greetings to all
  Andrei Vanazzi




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[LUTE] Re: Molinaro, Galilei

2008-11-14 Thread demery
   Does someone knows how many books did Simone Molinaro and Vincenzo
   Galilei publish? And when were they publihed?

google gives me these dates - Molinaro, Simone ( C1565-1615) Galilei,
Vincenzo (C1527-1591).

Look for articles 'Molinaro, Simone' and 'Galilei, Vincenzo' in Groves New
Dictionary of music and Musicians (26vv) and also see the indexes in H M
Brown, _Instrumental Music printed before 1600_.  Maybe no longer in print
(a shame, but that the way things go these days);  Google is your freind
here, used copies showed in a recent search witht he title as keywords.  A
standard reference useful to lutenists intrested in renaissance music. 
Should be on the reference shelf of any music library.
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