[LUTE] Re: Molinaro, Galilei
[M. Galilei] He was an Italian, playing French style in Germany! Much style brise, as they say. Shouldn't that be Italian style in Poland? B. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.4/1792 - Release Date: 16.11.2008 10:04
[LUTE] Re: Molinaro, Galilei
Dear Bernd, dear all, why should that be so? Galilei published his book years after he came to Munich. His years in the service of a nobleman in Poland where than a thing of the past and his music is really very french in style. There is certainly some (if not much) Italian style in the threepartite Toccate which opens the book but to me many of the pieces might have come from a compatriot of Ballard ... It's certainly possible that I am not as familiar with Galilei's music as I think I am (having played through some of the suites but not all and having really come to grips with only a few pieces at all) but this is my impression. All best, Joachim Bernd Haegemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: [M. Galilei] [snip] an Italian, playing French style in Germany! Much style brise, as they say. Shouldn't that be Italian style in Poland? B. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.4/1792 - Release Date: 16.11.2008 10:04 -- Joachim Lüdtke, Lektorat Korrektorat Dr. Joachim Lüdtke Blumenstraße 20 D - 90762 Fürth Tel. +49-+911 / 976 45 20
[LUTE] Re: Molinaro, Galilei
Shouldn't that be Italian style in Poland? why should that be so? Galilei published his book years after he came to Munich. His years in the service of a nobleman in Poland where than a thing of the past and his music is really very french in style. There is .I sort of wanted to add the other half of the story :-) I have no real insight into the style question. To me M.G. 's style seemed rather individual. And how much the BallardCo. owe to Italy I cannot estimate, but I think at that time they were much closer or dependant than a little bit later on the 11c. and with the accords nouveaux.. best wishes B. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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Dear Bernd, suspect you're right concerning cross-influences in italian and french repertoire. I did not find the time yet but it may be interesting to compare what happened to the Air Je treuve sur le herbe assize (or so - don't have it before my eyes now) when it came into an italian musician's hands and was forged into a Volta Francese. All best, Joachim Bernd Haegemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Shouldn't that be Italian style in Poland? why should that be so? Galilei published his book years after he came to Munich. His years in the service of a nobleman in Poland where than a thing of the past and his music is really very french in style. There is ..I sort of wanted to add the other half of the story :-) I have no real insight into the style question. To me M.G. 's style seemed rather individual. And how much the BallardCo. owe to Italy I cannot estimate, but I think at that time they were much closer or dependant than a little bit later on the 11c. and with the accords nouveaux.. best wishes B. -- Joachim Lüdtke, Lektorat Korrektorat Dr. Joachim Lüdtke Blumenstraße 20 D - 90762 Fürth Tel. +49-+911 / 976 45 20 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Molinaro, Galilei
On Nov 15, 2008, at 9:37 AM, andrei and wrote: Now I'm curious to know how was his style of composition. He was an Italian, playing French style in Germany! Much style brise, as they say. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Molinaro, Galilei
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: H M Brown, _Instrumental Music printed before 1600_. Maybe no longer in print Available in photoreprint from www.iUniverse.com (1999). Buy now, before this edition, too, will be out of print. David -- *** David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Molinaro, Galilei
I cannot tell you how many books but if you are interested in obtaining some of the music you might want to visit here. http://www.lute.ru/mirrors/gerbode/ft2/composers/index.php?path=Galilei/ - Original Message - From: andrei and [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 3:52 PM Subject: [LUTE] Molinaro, Galilei Hi to everyone, Does someone knows how many books did Simone Molinaro and Vincenzo Galilei publish? And when were they publihed? And also, where can I find these books to download? If there ain't no source to download can someone please, send me a link where I can buy these books on the internet? Thank you and, Greetings to all Andrei Vanazzi __ Instale a Barra de Ferramentas com Desktop Search e ganhe EMOTICONS para o Messenger! [1]E GRATIS! -- References 1. http://www.msn.com.br/emoticonpack To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.3/1787 - Release Date: 11/14/2008 8:32 AM
[LUTE] Re: Molinaro, Galilei
On 11/14/2008, G. Crona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://gallica.bnf.fr/scripts/ConsultationTout.exe?E=0O=N058217 There was a way to download the whole in one go in PDF, don't remember how to do it, perhaps somebody else will know? Arto? Yes, I knew it, but definitely I have forgotten... I just suggest going to those pages - and if memory serves - you'll find the way to do the trick... ;-) Arto PS I recommend the music of Vincenco's lesser known son (compared to Galileo), Michelangelo Galilei, to lutenists. Very clever music! And just wait a while; you'll get also THAT in the tubes in a while... ;-) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Molinaro, Galilei
Le 14 nov. 08 à 22:14, G. Crona a écrit : and the facsimile here: http://gallica.bnf.fr/scripts/ConsultationTout.exe?E=0O=N058217 There was a way to download the whole in one go in PDF, don't remember how to do it, perhaps somebody else will know? Arto? http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k582176.capture Just use the link above, and click on telecharge, you will get thechoice of PDF or TIFF. Anyway, It just worked for me. Anthony G. - Original Message - From: andrei and [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:52 PM Subject: [LUTE] Molinaro, Galilei Hi to everyone, Does someone knows how many books did Simone Molinaro and Vincenzo Galilei publish? And when were they publihed? And also, where can I find these books to download? If there ain't no source to download can someone please, send me a link where I can buy these books on the internet? Thank you and, Greetings to all Andrei Vanazzi To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Molinaro, Galilei
Does someone knows how many books did Simone Molinaro and Vincenzo Galilei publish? And when were they publihed? google gives me these dates - Molinaro, Simone ( C1565-1615) Galilei, Vincenzo (C1527-1591). Look for articles 'Molinaro, Simone' and 'Galilei, Vincenzo' in Groves New Dictionary of music and Musicians (26vv) and also see the indexes in H M Brown, _Instrumental Music printed before 1600_. Maybe no longer in print (a shame, but that the way things go these days); Google is your freind here, used copies showed in a recent search witht he title as keywords. A standard reference useful to lutenists intrested in renaissance music. Should be on the reference shelf of any music library. -- Dana Emery To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html